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| View Poll Results: '49 willys pickup or '81 toyota pickup? | |||
| '49 willys |     | 23 | 52.27% |
| '81 toy |    | 21 | 47.73% |
| Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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09-17-2005, 08:40 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Redding, CA
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|  '49 willys or '81 toyota
I have a freind that wants to trade me his '81 toyata pickup for my '49 willys pickup. Which would you want? The '49 willys pickup is all stock with little rust and it has new 31" bfgs and led lights. The toy needs a carb, new dash, and tires. But it has no rust and a new cluch. thanks. Last edited by mike; 09-17-2005 at 08:43 PM. |
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09-17-2005, 08:50 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Gorgeous San Diego
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Oh, toyota all the way  |
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09-17-2005, 09:39 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SERCRC
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| The Toyota would be the easiest and cheapest to build if you're wanting a serious off-roader. I had less than $8K total in my '85 Xtracab.... dual cases, 4.88's, Detroits, 36" Irok's, chromoly axles, winch, bumpers, flatbed, suspension, etc. VERY capable truck (sold to RXCrawler here on RCC). I never owned a carb'd Toy, my '85 had EFI, so I can't really say.... some carbs work good, some run like crap and need constant tinkering. I had a carbed Samurai that worked great offroad for the most part. It would load up only when I stood the rig up almost vertical. The 22RE in the Toy never missed a beat no matter what position I put it in. I'd trade for the Toyota. Before I put any money into anything else I would look into a EFI swap.;) My ol' Toy. Kinda miss it a little. I know where RXCrawler lives, might steal it back someday.  |
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09-17-2005, 10:03 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Auburn, WA
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the willy for me, the toy would definately be cheaper and easier, but wheres the fun in that, I'd set the willy up with a small block ford/C6 combo throw some D44's at each end and what ever tire fits with the lift amount you want (I don't know if they're spring over or spring under, if its under, change it to SOA and you should clear 33's easy). The toy is a rare occurance without rust though, and may be worth it.
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09-17-2005, 10:04 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Redding, CA
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Well my plan is to put propane injection on the one I choose. So I wouldn't have any problems there. But I plan to run a 37"- 40" tire so with either truck it’s going to cost me a bit to build. It really comes down to body style and motors. The willys flat head is awesome and has tons of low end power but the 22r has a great reputation fo reliability and the after market.
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09-17-2005, 10:09 PM
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 For axles I'm going to build a set of high-9's eventually. And I am going to try and keep as little lift as possible for stability; so that probably means a SUA is in line for either truck.
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09-18-2005, 04:37 PM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Gorgeous San Diego
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Why a SUA? you can keep lift down by using flat springs with a spring over. you will get better flex out of SOA then 90% of SUAs.
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09-18-2005, 07:48 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Auburn, WA
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Yeah, on most axles its only 4-5 inches of lift.
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09-18-2005, 08:48 PM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Los Osos, CA
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if its strictly body looks go willys!
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09-18-2005, 10:26 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Redding, CA
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I would do an SUA because 1) to help fight axle wrap and 2) with flat springs under extreme articulation they will have negative arch which could fatigue and break the leaf.
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09-18-2005, 10:36 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land of the Free, because of the Brave
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| Which flat head does yours have? My L-134 in the '48 CJ2A made 60 HP stock... I'm getting ready to drop a 4.3Vortec w/propane in it. I'd stick with the willys, if for nothing more than the fact that there's a ton of 'yotas on the trails already.-WRM |
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09-18-2005, 10:47 PM
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Same motor. I was going to throw a 289 in there but i like the flat head to much. Quote:
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09-19-2005, 12:58 AM
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| TEAM MODERATOR   Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee
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Defenitly Toyota. You'll be able to build the Toy into a FAR better wheeler easier and cheaper. Theres so many options for cheap swaps,junkyard swaps and a MASSIVE aftermarket supply. A few of the guys I ride with run Jeeps,well Jeep bodies with basically 3/4 or ton Chevy crap under them. They've got nearly double in their rigs compaired to what I've put in mine. When we ride,they break or get stuck and my little Toyota just keeps on truckin and ALWAYS drives me home. I'd be willing to bet,if you played your cards right and shopped around for the best deals,you could put $1500 in that Toy and you'd have a kick *** wheeler. Not including the $$$$ I put in buying my Toy,just the $$$$ in the build after it was retired from a work truck to a trail rig. Including the $$$$ I spent on my bender,oxy & acc. bottles and torch set and a few other tools I needed,I spent about $2500 to $3000. This is my Toy now......................  Concidering about half the money I spent on my build was buying tools,I can't complain the least. A guy can get by cheap,you just gotta shop around the BB's for deals and search the net for the cheap and sometimes free upgrade/swaps. Last edited by Reflection; 09-19-2005 at 01:03 AM. |
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09-19-2005, 02:08 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Redding, CA
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I'm not worried about the money part. I know a few junk yard owners and I have my sources for cheap aftermarket parts.
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09-19-2005, 02:12 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2004
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Stick with the willys! Not only are they sick, but who else will be wheeling a willys? Not many...so dont stay with the norm, go for the willys.... |
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09-19-2005, 02:51 PM
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09-19-2005, 05:33 PM
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My dad raced his flattie with the L-Head for years before swapping a Chev 153 and 4 speed. It was better in a poker run he did that a Hemi powered CJ, simply because he could keep his rig on the trail.
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09-20-2005, 06:42 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Redding, CA
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Dam, You guys arn't much help. Willy's= 19 votes and toy= 19 votes. |
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09-20-2005, 06:51 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Concord Ca
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I would keep the Willys and put Chevy running gear under it.
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09-20-2005, 08:36 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land of the Free, because of the Brave
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