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Tommy R 01-26-2017 12:23 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chino63 (Post 5656552)
Cool, looking forward to pics from your trip. I've seen a few videos of wheeling in Texas. Looks pretty good to me. Some day, I'd like to take a trip with the FJ40 and check out that area.

If you can make it happen, I'd be happy to show you around! You know, we could always meet somewhere in the middle....like maybe Farmington or Las Cruces, New Mexico. :mrgreen:

chino63 01-26-2017 09:29 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy R (Post 5656572)
If you can make it happen, I'd be happy to show you around! You know, we could always meet somewhere in the middle....like maybe Farmington or Las Cruces, New Mexico. :mrgreen:

Now that right there sounds like a road trip!

Gonna have to work on that.;-)

Tommy R 01-30-2017 08:49 AM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Got my Shapeways fenders in over the weekend and they look nice! The finish will require some sanding, but I'm pleased. I can't determine final positioning of the fenders until my wheels/tires arrive, but I've begun mocking things up a bit.

Installing the TLT axle and the Hi Lift front springs moved the axle forward a bit. Technically speaking, it seems most 6x6 trucks have the front axle set back quite a bit from a standard RWD truck. Mine won't be set back that far because I'd like a bit better approach angle. It'll still look pretty accurate so I'm good with it.

I'm having a hard time determining what model Pete this most resembles. And it doesn't help that most 6x6 trucks are so tall that they have sloped hoods and mine won't. So I may be building a truck that has never existed? Really not sure. So if anyone has input on if this truck most closely resembles a 357, 359, 389, etc. please let me know! :)

Anyway, here's some mock up pics. Nevermind the wheel/tire choice for now, but does the fender placement look about right?
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7415-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7416-XL.jpg

If I keep this placement, I'll add some styrene down below so the fender isn't left unsupported.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7417-XL.jpg

Itali83 01-30-2017 10:23 AM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
I friggin love this build! The truck is a mash up of 359/379 peterbilt. The cab is closer to the newer 379 cab but the hood with the air cleaner piping going into the side is 359. 379 petes have the air cleaner inlet through the cowl of the cab and you don't see the intake tubes outside of the truck.

As far as it being a fowrard front axle truck, that's the way it would be if you ordered a 359/379 6x6 so it looks good to me. I'd run the fenders all the way to the front and make a filler panel at the real just like ones do at the bottom rear of fender.

I wish these were 1/10 scale because I'd build one but I want it to haul my ascender blazer and look scale. I'm going to do a scratch 1/10 build but dread building a cab and hood because I probably dont have the skill to make it like the trucks I own and work on every day.

Tommy R 01-30-2017 10:45 AM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Thanks for the info! I didn't even pick up on the air cleaner locations. Since I already committed to the external air cleaners (and I prefer the look), I guess I'll call this on a 359. :) The front axle won't be as far forward as a RWD 359, but not as far back as some 6x6 chassis I've seen so hopefully it'll look okay.

Can't wait for my wheels/tires to arrive so I can make it a roller and mount my fenders. I'll also have to address the issue of how to raise the rear of the chassis to match the increased ride height of the front.

JatoTheRipper 01-30-2017 01:09 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS (Post 5651811)
whats the second grill for?
my fear with 3d printing is always surface finish, but could always be sanded smooth. what does it take to buy the printed fenders? ive always thought shapeways seemed pricey for what you get.

FDM 3D printing, which is what most are familiar with, will always have visible layers. But 3D printing gets a bad wrap because a lot of people selling printed items, such as a lot of the scale items in this hobby, use crappy printers with crappy filament and layer heights that are way too large. If you print with a decent printer and use thin layers you can really minimize the layering effect. And if you 3D print items in ABS you can give them an Acetone vapor bath and it really smooths them out. But, like you said, you can also sand them.

This truck is going to be awesome!

Tommy R 01-30-2017 11:15 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5658828)
FDM 3D printing, which is what most are familiar with, will always have visible layers. But 3D printing gets a bad wrap because a lot of people selling printed items, such as a lot of the scale items in this hobby, use crappy printers with crappy filament and layer heights that are way too large. If you print with a decent printer and use thin layers you can really minimize the layering effect. And if you 3D print items in ABS you can give them an Acetone vapor bath and it really smooths them out. But, like you said, you can also sand them.

This truck is going to be awesome!

Thanks! I sure hope it will be. "thumbsup"

Tommy R 02-02-2017 12:40 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Well, the wait continues, unfortunately. I ordered my tires and front wheels from Stella on 1/20 and they shipped the same day. I chose Air Parcel over the cheapest shipping option in hopes I'd get it within a week or week and a half. I haven't seen an update since 1/23 and now have Stella looking into it. By the description I don't even know if it's left China or not. What a bummer! Anyway, moving on to other things....

So I got my 15mm spacers in from RC4WD. While I liked the new height of the transmission, they presented a problem. The transmission has a bulge by the shifter that is too wide to fit within the framerails. So I raised it a bit more (to 22mm) to get this bulge to reside inside the framerails better. Here's the spacers:
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7465-XL.jpg

It's tough to see here, but if you look closely, the shifter area of the transmission is now inside the framerail and clears everything nicely.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7466-XL.jpg

Side view profile shot.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7462-XL.jpg

And even with the dash installed there's clearance between the motor and the body.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7461-XL.jpg

Looks like there will now be plenty of driveshaft clearance!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7463-XL.jpg

Next up is one of my least favorite things to do: bodywork. I picked up some Squadron White Putty and am beginning to clean up the sunroof and the top antenna emboss.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7464-XL.jpg

Tommy R 02-02-2017 10:24 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
It seems there's some common 2 tone paint schemes for these trucks. There's this one:
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...D7A_tmp-XL.jpg

And there's this one (although this one is more customized):
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...IMG_7445-L.jpg

And of course some trucks have a painted chassis and fuel tanks/steps like this one:
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...3397BA_tmp.jpg

After doing a lot of research on color schemes and combinations, it looks like my truck will come out a lot like this, but with more purple:
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...12714257-0.jpg

Found this one, too! Looks pretty cool and mine may come out somewhat similar in a lot of ways, but with 359 style fenders.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...d55c8dc8df.jpg

STANG KILLA SS 02-03-2017 08:21 AM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
nice! we could hear you cheating on us last night with this lady! :D

you should mock up a front driveshaft and check angles.
i think i have a set of these somewhere if you need them
Superlift Driveshaft Alignment Degree Shims


also on fender placement, is the tire going to snag the rear of the fender under compression? dont want to rip it off.

Tommy R 02-03-2017 08:57 AM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS (Post 5661095)
nice! we could hear you cheating on us last night with this lady! :D

you should mock up a front driveshaft and check angles.
i think i have a set of these somewhere if you need them
Superlift Driveshaft Alignment Degree Shims


also on fender placement, is the tire going to snag the rear of the fender under compression? dont want to rip it off.

LOL! Yeah, I got kinda tired of Road Atlanta so I started doing some more bodywork. :mrgreen:

Driveshaft angles are looking fine, I think. The Axial trans/t-case will have outputs that are pretty low, but above the gas tanks and such.

Regarding fender/tire clearance, the wheels I will run up front will tuck in pretty far so clearance should definitely not be a problem. Those that I used for mock up stuck out way too far!

Tommy R 02-04-2017 02:40 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Finally got around to swapping out a bunch of hardware for socket head stuff. I really don't like Phillips head hardware! I need to order more of certain sizes and some shoulder screws don't have a replacement so they'll remain, but overall, it should be much easier to work on and look way better, IMO.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7481-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7482-XL.jpg

And the bodywork on the top of the cab is looking pretty good. I think I may be done after one more round of light sanding.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7483-XL.jpg

Tommy R 02-05-2017 01:57 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Trimmed the floorboard to accommodate the higher transmission location.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7484-XL.jpg

Had to remove the seat mounting holes and will need to trim the seat mounts, but no biggie. I'll just glue them in when the time comes.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7485-XL.jpg

Intrudes into the cabin, but if it's visible when the build is done I may just fab up a new floor to hide it.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7486-XL.jpg

While test-fitting the body I noticed an issue. One of the reinforcing plates I added for the hood sides is interfering with the floor. I could've (and should've) Dremeled away some of the floor, but why not risk screwing up and having to do some more bodywork instead? LOL!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7487-XL.jpg

Fortunately, I am one with my Dremel and no harm was done while making adequate clearance. :D
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7490-XL.jpg

And the Axial trans has now been "extensively modified" to be a transfer case! :)
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7488-XL.jpg

Tommy R 02-09-2017 04:48 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Body work on the front fenders is done.....well, unless I decide to add some lights on top. Not sure about that just yet. It took several layers of filler primer and loads of sanding, but I'm pretty pleased with the result. The veritcal sides of the fenders are still rather rough, but I have no good way to sand those surfaces. Hopefully it won't be too obvious after paint and clear is applied....
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7524-XL.jpg

Sorted the steering, as well. Used a short Losi aluminum servo arm (I don't like using plastic bits) and put the tie rod under the knuckles. Bumpsteer is minimal and clearances under bump travel are good.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7526-XL.jpg

Took a file to the knuckles to get a bit more steering out of the TLT axle.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7528-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7529-XL.jpg

Ackerman looks pretty decent. My thumbs says hello!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7530-XL.jpg

chino63 02-09-2017 07:07 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Nice progress, I really like the wheels with the new hardware. "thumbsup"

mattlooney 02-09-2017 08:31 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Those fenders look great. I don't think the vertical sides will be very noticeable when they're painted and installed. If it is you could always add some marker lights on top to draw attention away from it.

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Tommy R 02-10-2017 10:41 AM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chino63 (Post 5664714)
Nice progress, I really like the wheels with the new hardware. "thumbsup"

Thanks, Dean! Now if only the front wheels and all my tires would show up!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattlooney (Post 5664755)
Those fenders look great. I don't think the vertical sides will be very noticeable when they're painted and installed. If it is you could always add some marker lights on top to draw attention away from it.

Thanks! Yeah, that's always an option. :)

Tommy R 02-13-2017 02:53 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
Since there have been no updates on the shipment of my tires and front wheels from Stella Models in Hong Kong, they suggested that I initiate a dispute via PayPal. On Friday I did just that and then ordered the same tires/wheels from Semi Joe. For the same overall cost I got it delivered in record time!! Great customer service and I'll remember that for sure.

All wheels/tires are made by Lesu. Pretty happy with them overall, except for a couple things.
  • Maybe I'm just used to crawlers, but these tires are hard! But that's probably okay because I plan on making this rig heavy and also plan to haul heavy loads with it. Those stiff sidewalls will be needed at some point!
  • The recess for the hex is too deep and needed a spacer so it wouldn't rub the knuckle.
  • I wish it provided a narrower track width because the fronts stick out more than I'd prefer.
  • The front tires could be a smidge wider. Visually, the just don't look that much wider than the rears. Not a big deal, though.

Here's the rears all mounted up.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7571-XL.jpg

Fronts mounted up.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7572-XL.jpg

Sorry for the crappy lighting, but I'm pleasantly surprised that the ride height looks pretty good. The front is only a bit higher than the rear, which is surprising given the front TLT axle. Once I add some weight in the form of electronics, battery, speaker, etc. then it may actually sit level! Schwing!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7573-XL.jpg

So I started mock up of the front fenders. Overall, I'm pretty happy with this positioning. Keep in mind the axle swings rearward under compression. I'll need to add some styrene under the hood sides, but I'll get to that later. For now I'm just interested in fender placement.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7574-XL.jpg

Again, sorry for the lighting, but here you can see just how far they stick out. It's not particularly awful given most heavy hauler or all wheel drive trucks' front ends are often fairly wide, but I'd hoped for better.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7575-XL.jpg

And can someone tell me what I did wrong with the install of my 5th wheel? Why is it angling the wrong direction?
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_7578-XL.jpg

chino63 02-14-2017 03:49 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
How wise of a hex so you have to run? Can you mill down the inside of the wheel around the hex area to be able to run a narrower hex? I agree, it looks too wide.

Other than that, I say it looks great! Very nice build.

chino63 02-14-2017 03:59 PM

Re: 6x6 Peterbilt Semi Truck
 
I'm running the stock Tamiya rear inside wheels on the front with a custom 10mm wide hex. With RC4WD 1.55 rock crushers they stick out 11mm past the fender.


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