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Old 01-11-2016, 09:15 AM   #481
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That's the predicament I'm in.. Everyone says the Kings look better than they work.

I'd like this rig to work well too.. Plus I kinda don't want to spend $150 on shocks that don't work well.
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:58 AM   #482
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yeah id stay away from the kings or rc4wd for performance shocks....

if you dont mind the diameter try the Gmade XD series.
there super smooth and amazing dampning, and mine havent leaked a drop. i think i now own 3 sizes i was so impressed. they have a cool cartrige seal design.
i never thought id say this but they are the nicest shocks ive ever owned.

i run the aeration series. the top bleeder screw is awesome. the piggyback/resevoir series were too bulky for me.

youll want softer springs though

What size are they?
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:59 PM   #483
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they make 55, 62, 75, 85, 93, and 103
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Old 01-11-2016, 01:02 PM   #484
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I mean diameter?

The Krawlers might be different from the Kings from what I've been reading. Maybe I'll take a chance?
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Old 01-11-2016, 01:14 PM   #485
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What size are they?
Way to big for that rig.

How about Traxxas big bores with the mini t springs?
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Old 01-11-2016, 01:24 PM   #486
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Way to big for that rig.

How about Traxxas big bores with the mini t springs?
I thought about that too, and I have them here to try.. But they still "look" kinda silly. Ironically I have them here though because I was going to put them on this way back when.
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Old 01-11-2016, 06:52 PM   #487
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I mean diameter?

body 13.9mm
spring 18.5mm
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Old 01-11-2016, 07:26 PM   #488
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body 13.9mm
spring 18.5mm
thats just as big as these Axials then.. Bah. Actually, I think they are bigger.

I sent an email to RC4WD to see whats up with people claiming the Krawler shocks being better than the Kings..
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Old 01-12-2016, 03:22 PM   #489
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So this one was kinda scary.. I want easier access to under the hood, but didn't want huge body pins. I've seen some people pull off the hood pin look, so I figure it was worth a shot.

I had everything held in place with 2.5mm screws before. So I started with some 2.5mm aluminum standoffs.


Turned them down and drilled through them


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Old 01-12-2016, 07:27 PM   #490
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I did order some longer standoffs, hoping they aren't drilled all the way so I don't have that hole in the center. Also ordered up some stainless pins that I hope are a decent size.
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:51 PM   #491
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BTW, in case I do make it to axial fest....

If my transmission used axial based gears, but wasn't axial, would it be allowed?
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Old 01-13-2016, 03:56 PM   #492
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Not an issue, I'm running 3racing axle housings, RC4WD two speed, etc. It is "Axial based" as everything is designed for an SCX10. Just like all the Vanquish clad rigs people bring. Just don't show up with a CR01 or a Wheely King, etc.

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Old 01-13-2016, 04:55 PM   #493
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Not an issue, I'm running 3racing axle housings, RC4WD two speed, etc. It is "Axial based" as everything is designed for an SCX10. Just like all the Vanquish clad rigs people bring. Just don't show up with a CR01 or a Wheely King, etc.
Cool, so my scx based chassis and such is good enough.

I'd like to kind of play with moving gears around and such. It's still an idea, but I have the stuff to try at least. I made a transmission for one of my first scalers way back when wit basic hand tools, so why not?
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:13 PM   #494
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So I've been thinking.. Most of the yeti/rr10 reduction is in the transfer case.. I might try and source a rr10 transfer and play around with that..
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Old 01-31-2016, 10:49 PM   #495
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So I bit the bullet.... What do I have to lose?

Apparently sanity, I've tried for three days to get all the air outta these things. I've never had luck with shocks that don't use a bladder of some sort.
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Old 02-01-2016, 09:31 AM   #496
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Emulsion style shocks should have some air in them. Play with that air/oil ratio, and pump the living crap out of them before making any judgements on dampening. An emulsion shock relies on the oil/air mixing (emulsifying) to get a smooth consistent feel, but because of this, they often give less dampening. Luckily we don't have to deal with shock fade on these little cars. Tuning could REALLY become a mess.
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Old 02-01-2016, 09:46 AM   #497
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Emulsion style shocks should have some air in them. Play with that air/oil ratio, and pump the living crap out of them before making any judgements on dampening. An emulsion shock relies on the oil/air mixing (emulsifying) to get a smooth consistent feel, but because of this, they often give less dampening. Luckily we don't have to deal with shock fade on these little cars. Tuning could REALLY become a mess.
That is a really old point, and something I can use. I should also clarify, I was not getting a consistent dampening. I have 100wt oil in them now, I might give the diff fluid a try again.
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:01 AM   #498
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That is a really old point
That's from a guy that has spent about 90% of his time in the mini section. We didn't even get shocks with bladders till we started building them ourselves (shortened SCX10 shocks with Hulksta's mods). Bwahaha...
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:29 AM   #499
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That's from a guy that has spent about 90% of his time in the mini section. We didn't even get shocks with bladders till we started building them ourselves (shortened SCX10 shocks with Hulksta's mods). Bwahaha...
I'll have to check that out, I have some shortened scx shocks on one of my rigs now. Might be missing something
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