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Dustinf 04-21-2016 08:29 PM

Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20...42091959x6.jpg


This is going to a long, ongoing process. And much more work than the Jeep JK 2 door I just finished.

I'm going for kind of a stock looking rig with a bit of modification. Like the owner is a weekend warrior who had money for tires and maybe a small lift.

I plan on doing all the gimmicks I did on the JK. Such as a horn, exhaust, custom light controller with manual directionals, 2 speed trans.. and so on.

I'm using the amazing new jeep cherokee xj 313mm hardbody that has recently become popular.

I bought a Vaterra Ascender Kit to use as the main chassis.
Along with the GCM combo to place the trans where is should be.

I ordered a twin hammers trans to give this a 2 speed.

I had originally wanted to do another GCM Skeleton combo. I do believe it's the best chassis I've ever used and just an incredible design. But I just finished one and have never had/built and ascender. So, I wanted to try one. Plus, the GCM combo for the ascender looks really nice, so it'll all work out.

I find documenting a build really improves the quality of work; so interesting or not, it'll be on here.

I may also do some work on the scale city that will be posted here.

Dustinf 04-21-2016 08:31 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
If any of you have a set of 1.9 dirt grabbers, could you do a quick measurement? I know rc4wd's website says 3.85", but none of my tires measure out to what is listed. My challengers measure 4.5" and list as 4.24". Could be the foams.

Thanks! I'm trying to do a mock up before deciding and ordering.

Side note:

This build was stressing me out more than a hobby like this should.*

I'll never get used to spending money on a kit, and then pulling half of the parts off and throwing them in a box. Along with the tires, shocks and body. I cut the body to shape, but may just sell it off.

Anyway... body mounts and interior were the two big ones getting too me.

Luckily I have something in mind for mounting the body. At least for the back part. I wish they added some posts or tabs. I don't really trust glue enough to add them.

Dramatic side note over.

CODYBOY 04-21-2016 09:32 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
Your last build turned out assume, so why all the stressing? Take a deep breath, and chill."thumbsup"
Good choice on the chassis and motor forward kit from GCM."thumbsup"

Dustinf 04-21-2016 09:45 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CODYBOY (Post 5490625)
Your last build turned out assume, so why all the stressing? Take a deep breath, and chill."thumbsup"
Good choice on the chassis and motor forward kit from GCM."thumbsup"

It's better now. It was just the amount of work. I like to have things go quickly. I've also never built a hardbody like this that needs paint and so much problem solving. I wish this body had screw bosses or even spare tabs. But it doesnt. Makes mounting kind of tricky.

I'm also planning a scratch built interior..

I think I've figured out body mounting. I just need to fabricate some things.

Thanks for the words! Helps build my confidence on this build.

Dustinf 04-22-2016 02:00 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
I'm probably going for Dick Cepek Mud Country tires.

Quick update.

I ground/cut/sanded off the unused mount on the transmission. It was getting in the way of me running battery/motor wires through that hole. Looks nicer too. A bit more scale. I hope I don't regret giving up two perfectly good mounting holes.

And I made a plate that I mounted next to the servo. I'm going to use this for the ESC. Rx will be on top of the servo. I'll probably need to get another 8 channel for this rig. I'll have to figure that out when it comes time, as the 8ch is much bigger.

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20160421222351.jpg

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20160517212345.jpg

I've also finished mounting the micro servo and linkage. That went very easy thanks to GCM'S awesome little mount.

Body mounting is up next. That's what I'm working on today.

Scale Junkie 04-22-2016 03:10 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
It's looking nice! What size servo did you use for the 2 speed and did you mount it on the t-case plate? Did you make your own shift linkage? What driveshaft are you using from the trans to the t-case? Sorry for all the questions but I started most of mine last night(GCM front motor) and I was running into lots of issues(2 speed). Thanks a lot for the thread."thumbsup"

Dustinf 04-22-2016 03:37 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scale Junkie (Post 5491057)
It's looking nice! What size servo did you use for the 2 speed and did you mount it on the t-case plate? Did you make your own shift linkage? What driveshaft are you using from the trans to the t-case? Sorry for all the questions but I started most of mine last night(GCM front motor) and I was running into lots of issues(2 speed). Thanks a lot for the thread."thumbsup"

Hello, I used this servo
Solar Servo D654 0.12@4.8v Digital Metal Gear 12g

I made my own linkage out of piano wire (spring steel). I prefer actual links with rod ends, but there wasn't room.

I used the t case mount. I had to open the trans and drill a 1/8th hole to flip the shifting rod.

For trans to t-case I used standard 5mm U-joints. I just need to lathe or cut a rod to connect them. These u joints can be found on Rc4wd's site or on ebay from china for dirt cheap.

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20160501234623.jpg

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20160422173301.jpg

Dustinf 04-22-2016 03:38 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
First of many steps:

I made a bracket for the front. Luckily, there are two tabs to either side of the grill on the inside. I'm guessing these are there for mounting a radiator. I used them to mount this angle.

I'll be able to drill holes and use this to mount the body to the chassis. It'll also allow me to mount a radiator very easily.

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20160430233126.jpg

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20160430233048.jpg

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20160505005846.jpg


And because it will be mounted to the chassis when the body is on, I may also be able to mount a winch or bumper to it.

Dustinf 04-22-2016 05:45 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
Rear bumper mounts.

Most guys with this body won't use the bumpers and can just fill the holes and move on. But, I'm going for a very stock look, so the stock bumpers are getting used. I don't know if I'll use a winch or not.. I do feel it's kind of necessary.

I made up these aluminum pieces that mount the rear bumper in a way that can't be seen. This way I can fill the holes and not have two Philips head screws showing on the rear hatch.

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/201605050043391.jpg

I can deal with the small screws by the fenders. But the ones on the hatch really bothered me. Plus, this new mount is quite strong.

The rear bumper is nice and thick on the top and strong enough to hold the screws in place. I'm also using it for body mounts.

All these aluminum parts will be cleaned up and painted when I get to putting color on the body.

Dustinf 04-22-2016 08:23 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
And finally, rear body mounts.

I made these two brackets that mount to the frame.

I'll be putting m3 set screws into the rear bumper. They will go through these brackets. Then I'll use a nut to keep the body on

I will probably drill a hole right through the bumper, put the set screw in, and then fill the hole with putty and paint over it.

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20160505004339.jpg

Like the other aluminum pieces; they still need to be sanded and cleaned up. Then painted black.

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20160505005925.jpg

Dustinf 04-24-2016 08:49 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
What color rims do you think would work best for a stock cherokee? Probably chrome or silver?

moondaddy 04-27-2016 02:55 AM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
How hard core weekend warrior do you want the build to look?? Reason i ask is i think the tamiya cc01 gold wrangler rims or the silver 5 bar rims that look alot like stock cherokee rims would look sharp.

CM9000 04-27-2016 06:38 AM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moondaddy (Post 5493474)
How hard core weekend warrior do you want the build to look?? Reason i ask is i think the tamiya cc01 gold wrangler rims or the silver 5 bar rims that look alot like stock cherokee rims would look sharp.

+1 on the Tamiya gold "mesh" rims. there was a "stock chero" build on here with ax10 axles and open diffs. it was pretty cool.

Dustinf 04-27-2016 08:49 PM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
I've seen the mesh rims. They do look very scale. But if I bought a cherokee with those on it, I'd change them.

What 5 bar rims do you speak of?

I saw that integy makes a set of rims that look perfect for a stock cherokee. But they were sold out everywhere.

I could use another set of Rc4wd JK rims, but those are sold out. Plus I've used those on the last rig.

I ordered a cheap set of black gmade wheels for now. This way I can run until something else comes up.

At the least, I could imagine a weekend warrior buying tires and rims.

Dirt grabbers 1.9 will be the tires used.

moondaddy 04-28-2016 01:51 AM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
tamiya silver 5 bar rims p/n10445516

Dustinf 04-28-2016 08:16 AM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moondaddy (Post 5494070)
tamiya silver 5 bar rims p/n10445516

Ohh yeah, I looked at those. Sorry.

Man, they are certainly cheap enough. If only they weren't glue on.

Dustinf 04-28-2016 09:14 AM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
Finally got the cantilever setup finished. I'm using GPM aluminum shocks. I made shorter rods to accommodate the look I'm going for. 10mm shorter to be exact.

http://u.cubeupload.com/Dustinf11/20160513195153.jpg

These shocks come with three different spring sets. I'm using the lightest and it's still very stiff. Once I get all the weight on there, ill probably need to use the next set.

I should have done this set up on the JK skeleton build. I'm really impressed with the amount of travel it gives, even being lowered and especially compared to the short shocks I used.

RUINATIONIPA 04-30-2016 12:20 AM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
Where did you get the Cherokee body.

ADlBOO 04-30-2016 08:56 AM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
Is the cantilever set-up just so you can have an interior? Excited to see how this goes, trying to convince myself to build a hardbody XJ.

Dustinf 04-30-2016 10:38 AM

Re: Cherokee XJ Hardbody Class 1 Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RUINATIONIPA (Post 5495260)
Where did you get the Cherokee body.

I got mine on toabofocus (or somthing like that) for ~$130. That used to be the only place to get them.

Now I see them on Ebay, asiatees, green mountain models and a host of other sites.

"Team raffee" has claimed them as their own like they have with a bunch of other bodies. That might help you locate one.

Add "313mm" to your searches.


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