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soze 04-16-2018 11:43 AM

Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
So... I got my hands on the new HoBao DC1 Kit. Many of you might know HoBao as having a great value with their kits like the 1/8 scale buggy Hyper VSe.

Aside from the less than ideal link mount on the axle... everything else looks pretty good. We'll see how things turn out as I go through this build.

Follow this build on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...kDmasWoFLooZiz

Build Details:
HoBao DC1 Kit (available on eBay)
Boom Racing 25T Alloy Servo Horn
ebay "Assasin" type beadlocks (silver)
Duratrax 1.9" Deep Woods Tires
Crawler Innovations Deuces Wild 1.9 XL Foams CWR-3005

Electronics:
Hobbywing WP-1060 Brushed ESC
HoBao HB-5518MG 18.6kg servo also available on eBay
HoBao HB-933MG 3Kg Digital servo
HoBao 550 27T Brushed Motor (available on eBay)

Tools:
Versachem Brake Caliper Grease
Permatex Anti Seize Lubricant (ebay)
Tamiya Side Cutter
Protek RC Shock Pliers (available on eBay)
DEWALT DCF610S2R 12V MAX Cordless Lithium-Ion 1/4 in. Hex Chuck Screwdriver Kit
MIP Metric Speed Tip Set MIP9512
Associated 1656 FT 1/4 in Driver Handle
Duratrax Shock stand
Bob Smith Industries Blue Thread locker (available on eBay)
Multistar Rubber R/C Work mat
Noleen SF3 Grease (on eBay)
Hakko FX-888D Soldering Station


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soze 04-16-2018 11:59 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
A quick look at what's included in the box...

Frame rails

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Bag #3
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Scale dashboard with steering wheel!
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Shocks
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Metal Gears
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Heatsink included
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CVDs included
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Links look to be pretty solid
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Bag #5
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A look at the diff locker in the bag
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Lexan body
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Lexan seats
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Transfer case parts
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My friend included a brushed motor, not included in kit.
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My friend included steering servo and shifting servo! Not included in kit though.
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My friend included rebranded Hobbywing 1060 (MST kits also use this). Not included in kit though.
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Includes 5 wheels and tires
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2mtech 04-16-2018 12:03 PM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Definitely not 1:10 anymore, Toto!

Having just finished an Orlandoo, that kit would be like building a 1:1 :ror:

Are you planning to use the stock wheels?

soze 04-16-2018 12:12 PM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2mtech (Post 5822382)
Definitely not 1:10 anymore, Toto!

Having just finished an Orlandoo, that kit would be like building a 1:1 :ror:

Are you planning to use the stock wheels?

Nope, I refuse to use glue-ons unless I really have no wheels left.

OSRC 04-16-2018 02:55 PM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Aside from the body and tires, looks pretty solid! I'll be keeping an eye on the build.

rs10man 04-17-2018 04:32 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
looking forward to your updates, will keep an eye out

Frank211 04-17-2018 08:40 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
About time we see one here... Can't wait !

soze 04-17-2018 10:58 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Steps 1-5: Transmission & Transfer Case

Starting off with Bag 1

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Contents of Bag 1

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Step 1 Complete

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Working on Step 2

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Shift gear on the left, Hi & Lo gear on the shaft back right

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Step 2 Complete

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Step 3 Complete

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Using the HoBao 550 can 27T brushed motor that my friend included. I'm guessing this is what comes with the RTR

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Step 4 Complete. Setting the gear mesh is a little more challenging than usual with that heatsink assembly in the way. But you can see through the holes... do it by feel and there are holes to let you tighten down the motor.

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Starting on the transfer case for Step 5

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Step 5 complete

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2mtech 04-17-2018 11:41 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Certainly looks like quality, I hope it feels equally so.

That pinion gear is definitely well marked!

Carry on "thumbsup"

soze 04-17-2018 11:52 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2mtech (Post 5822730)
Certainly looks like quality, I hope it feels equally so.

That pinion gear is definitely well marked!

Carry on "thumbsup"

Yeah, the materials... especially the gears seem pretty good. Even the shift fork is metal and not plastic so they didn't cut corners there.

With this kit, I don't think quality of material will be an issue. If anything design choices may be more of note. Hopefully if any of these design choices (like the link mount on axle) show up... hopefully they'll either be minor, or easily modified and overcome.

roadrashracing 04-17-2018 06:19 PM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Is there a us disturber? How is parts support?

soze 04-18-2018 09:26 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roadrashracing (Post 5822877)
Is there a us disturber? How is parts support?

Not sure. I know Tower Hobbies and GoNitroHobbies carries HoBao. They have a USA office in Virginia as well. I got mine while on a trip overseas.

JatoTheRipper 04-18-2018 09:46 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Wow that looks like a well thought out crawler made with high quality materials!

soze 04-18-2018 09:56 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Steps 6-13: Chassis rails & Links

This build is a little different than most other kits I've built. Most other crawler kits start off with building the axles first. This kit starts off building the transmission and chassis rail up first. HoBao being mainly a touring, buggy kit maker... I can sort of understand maybe why they did it this way out of familiarity.

Anyway, on to the build.


Starting Step 6. Notice the indentations in the chassis rails for the skid plate and brackets?

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Step 6 complete

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Step 7 is mounting motor and transmission onto frame. Notice again, the indentation in the frame for the motor mount. Definitely different than most trucks, and I'm assuming more stable.

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Transfer case mounted

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Top part of drive shafts added

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Starting on the links in Step 8

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Links done

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Links mounted

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Step 9 is putting together the receiver box and putting the servo horn on the shift servo. My friend gave me a HoBao HB-933MG 3Kg Digital servo for the shift servo. I'm assuming this is what comes with the RTR. Looks like a JX PDI-933mg servo rebrand.

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Step 10 & 11 is mounting the electronics to the radio tray/side rail assembly and having the rock sliders mounted on as well.

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Steps 12 & 13 is mounting the side rails and shock hoops onto the chassis frame.

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Notice how it has rubber grommets in center. I wonder what those will be for.

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soze 04-18-2018 10:05 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5823105)
Wow that looks like a well thought out crawler made with high quality materials!

Yes it does use high quality materials without question. The materials used in this kit are what other kits consider "upgrade parts".

As far as well thought out... we'll see. It's clear they did spend the time to put some thought into the kit to try and put out a good product, but this being their first crawler/scaler type vehicle... I can see where they have some inexperience like in the case of the link mounts for the axle... or maybe they have a good reason for it... I don't know. They do score points with me for what seems to be an actual attempt at making a solid truck with good parts.

2mtech 04-18-2018 10:15 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Vaterra Ascender starts you right out on the transmission too.

I like that they recessed the frame rail mount points for rigidity, but that'd make custom relocation of frame components problematic for anyone inclined to do so.

Sure can't say anything in that kit looks fragile!

soze 04-18-2018 10:23 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2mtech (Post 5823113)
Vaterra Ascender starts you right out on the transmission too.

I like that they recessed the frame rail mount points for rigidity, but that'd make custom relocation of frame components problematic for anyone inclined to do so.

Sure can't say anything in that kit looks fragile!

Ah... I have an Ascender K10, so I haven't built one yet.

Kit feels like a tank so far.

JatoTheRipper 04-18-2018 11:54 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
This looks like a cross between an SCX10 II and an HPI Venture.

Those links are great. That's how links should be machined with tapers on either side.

I'd like to see this, stock, go up against a box stock SCX10 II.

The machined frame rails are nice. The only truck I have that has that is the RC4WD TF2.

Really nice looking kit. They are expensive though after visiting your eBay link.

soze 04-18-2018 11:59 AM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5823155)
This looks like a cross between an SCX10 II and an HPI Venture.

Those links are great. That's how links should be machined with tapers on either side.

I'd like to see this, stock, go up against a box stock SCX10 II.

The machined frame rails are nice. The only truck I have that has that is the RC4WD TF2.

Really nice looking kit. They are expensive though after visiting your eBay link.

Yeah, ebay is overpriced for this kit, luckily I got a friend that "knows someone" discount in Taiwan. Tower Hobbies has it listed at $370. With the $30 coupon or $40... it'd be $330-340. Not bad, and a better value than the SCX10.2 kit. Just need to wait for Tower to get their sh*t together.

JatoTheRipper 04-18-2018 12:02 PM

Re: Soze's HoBao DC1 Kit Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soze (Post 5823158)
Yeah, ebay is overpriced for this kit, luckily I got a friend that "knows someone" discount in Taiwan. Tower Hobbies has it listed at $370. With the $30 coupon or $40... it'd be $330-340. Not bad. Just need to wait for Tower to get their sh*t together.

Last week I ordered over $400 in stuff from Tower and it got here in 3 days. So I think they are back to normal with some stuff.

The shocks on this also look great. Hopefully they're as smooth and leak free as they look.

I'm also interested to see the axles. So far the chassis is really cool.


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