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Topher Builds 04-21-2020 10:31 AM

Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
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A little bit of background here. While I’ve wanted a GC4.2 for a while now I’ve also had my eye on the GSpeed V3 and all the cool stuff the team garage hack crew is doing. Once I learned about the GSpeed v3 rails coming in carbon fiber I placed a preorder and started gathering parts. Fast forward a couple of months to now and the rig is taking shape.

Parts List:
Gspeed V3 carbon fiber chassis rails and gspeed sliders
Crawlspace comp spec stinger front bumper
Boom racing voodoo top shaft
Incision scx10ii drive shafts
TGH slotted skid and pan hard mount
TGH forward motor mount and tcase (15% OD at the transmission)
TGH Dual Servo mount
Hardcore RC Links for 12.5” wheelbase
Hardcore RC 67mm chassis spacers x5
Factory Team Bronze 90mm shocks
SSD Pro44 front and rear axles
SSD brass knuckles
Samix brass chub


Electronics:
Micro mamba x crawler edition with heyok bec soldered in
Holmes hobbies v2 puller pro stubby 2200kv
Holmes hobbies hv500v2 servo
Flysky gt5 & bs6 receiver

First chassis shots below

Topher Builds 04-21-2020 10:31 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
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Overall the build went relatively smooth for being pieced together, and there are a few things I’d like to touch on that could help someone in the future.

Unlike the Toyzuki v2.5 and the GC4.2, the GSpeed V3 isn’t available as a full chassis kit so some research and planning needs to happen to make sure the proper parts are acquired.

One hiccup I had is when I ordered links from hardcore RC there are two options for the panhard mount, one is TGH and the other is wertymade. I got the panhard from gspeed directly so I rolled the dice and picked the TGH option. However the TGH panhard mount is different than the GSpeed so when I got the links it didn’t work out. Luckily TGH managed to get me the panhard mount in a couple of days so it didn’t stall the build much at all. Once the correct panhard was on there the links from hardcore rc fit perfectly. Having used their links a few times I’m a believer, he does precise and quality work, well worth any wait.

Another obstacle is finding a top shaft. Boat shafts are a great option when you can find them but I have a hard time finding them in stock consistently so I looked for alternatives. Since I also had the GC4.2 kit on hand, which comes with the top shaft from boom racing, I googled and found a similar version on eBay that looked to have the right specs and thankfully it worked out, but clearance is tight (pic below, there’s more than it shows but not much) while still being functional. The shaft is a boom racing voodoo cvd shaft 65mm - 78mm (BRQ90279C) and came as a pair so I have a spare. I added some spacers where it mounts to the top shaft of the motor mount to take away some play and tighten up the spur gear movement.

Thankfully the TGH forward motor mount and T Case come assembled, save for the spur gear assembly. These are solid, high quality pieces with a perfect fit on the GSpeed v3. The bottom of the tcase is angled slightly to offset the lean of the skid and keep driveline angles good. The skid itself is great as well, I like that it’s slotted since you can move the t case to account for clearance which should help with different motors. As you can see in the pic below, the 3D printed sliders follow the shape of the skid and chassis rails perfectly, should be a smooth one on the rocks. The sliders I have for the gc4.2 are very similar as well.

Also added a shot of the team knk aluminum body mounts. These are handy little pieces and a good solution for how to mount a body to these types of chassis. The battery tray is the spare from the scx10.3 kit (not running the rear tray in mine) and I just did a little dremeling so it would lay flat and shoe-goo’d it to the slider.

Overall as pictured, with a small protek battery, it weighs about 3.7lbs. Haven’t settled on wheels/tires/body yet but I should have something on there by the end of the week.

Thanks for reading if you made it this far "thumbsup"

DukeMinnix 04-21-2020 10:53 AM

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Interested.

B-MOW71 04-21-2020 11:22 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Ohhhhh! That is a great looking build!"thumbsup"

Looks like your building a serious competitor! That should really kick some "red rock" a$$!;-)

Can't wait to see the wheel/tire combo you pick out!

JatoTheRipper 04-21-2020 11:41 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Very cool! You are a building machine.

MaX-D 04-21-2020 11:41 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Man I love these type of comp builds. SUBSCRIBED!

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distinctive pd 04-22-2020 07:33 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Looks very good bud 👍

rs10man 04-23-2020 09:56 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Great build and write up. Their a popular choice of chassis now

Topher Builds 04-23-2020 11:55 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
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I appreciate the interest from you all and thanks for the comments "thumbsup" I have a few more updates to share as this thing is almost ready to hit the rocks.

I slapped a body on it, pretty quick and dirty paint job as I couldn’t make up my mind on what to do and may switch it up down the road as usual. While the gladiator isn’t my favorite looking body, I like that it’s narrow and not bulky. Of course it’s a 12.3” wb and I built this as a 12.5” so it’s a little off but nothing that bothers me too much.

Wheels and tires were taken from the Capra, so they’re ssd steel 5 slots and jconcept landmines stuffed with CI lil novas. I think the 4.5” iirc. These tires really impressed me the first time I ran them, and they have the softest foams in any of the sets I have around so I’m thinking it’s the best bet for this being a lighter rig.

Also got to tuning, and troubleshooting, the electronics. Long story short, after tests and the process of elimination I’ve come to the conclusion that the sensor port on the mamba micro x is bad. I was able to use a different motor and a known functional mamba x to figure this out.

So now I have two options, send the micro back and wait for the warranty process and steal a mamba x from a different rig and run a heavier esc till the replacement shows up. Or keep the flawed micro x, knowing I’ll likely never be able to sell it easily, and run a revolver which should work fine since it’s not sensored.

I’m leaning towards the latter because it eliminates waiting, a heavy esc on a carbon fiber chassis, and the revolver is a bit lighter than the stubby puller pro, plus it’s a revolver, so there are a lot of benefits to the switch. May even get the snub nose revolver when they’re available again to save even more weight.

That’s where it is currently. I’m probably going to swap the revolver from the trx10.2 in today and hopefully run it after work or tomorrow. From putting around the floor and driving sideways on the wall it seems to have good balance, excited too see what it can do. Here are some pics.

Topher Builds 04-23-2020 06:34 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Swapped the revolver in and did a little bit of testing inside...

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Topher Builds 05-04-2020 09:00 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Some video from its first shakedowns. So far so good, love driving it and it felt surprisingly familiar on the rocks.

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Robotboy 05-04-2020 06:41 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Nice chassis and build!! Seems to do work very well. :twisted:
I have a GC 4.2 kit on the way. Hoping it does as well as your Gspeed.

MaX-D 05-05-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Topher Builds (Post 6019500)
Some video from its first shakedowns. So far so good, love driving it and it felt surprisingly familiar on the rocks.

This thing definitely has goat like qualities. Seems like those landmines were hooking up. Very nice!

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stimpy 05-06-2020 07:38 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Wowzers... Another great build man ��

Surprised how well the 4.25 foams seemed to work - the landlines are 4.75 if I remember correctly?...

fomocosun 05-06-2020 12:05 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
nice build G-speed FTW :)

soze 05-06-2020 01:06 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Definitely looks like a fun build. I'll have to try one of these out one of these days.

Topher Builds 05-07-2020 08:53 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Thanks fellas! It was a very enjoyable build and a hell of a good time to drive. Happy with this one.

@stimpy these are the 4.5” lil novas, without the tuning ring. I believe the landmine is about 4.65” tall. It’s a little bit shorter than the PL XL tires. Big fan of it so far, of course where I was this past weekend had traction for days on those surfaces, but they’ve done well elsewhere too.

I’m tempted to do a Pwagon body for this and try my and at bobbing and dove tailing the bed, as the gladiator is a tiny bit long and it would hang up every once in a while. Might do that before the comps start back up, but seems like I have a little bit of time for that for now.

stimpy 05-15-2020 03:29 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Cheers man... That makes a lot more sense!!..."thumbsup"

TK421 05-17-2020 09:27 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Dude, that thing is freak nasty and I love it!

Lou

NABeast 06-07-2020 04:55 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
This build is awesome. I’m getting parts to start my Gspeed build, do you know where i can get 3d printed rear chassis brace/flat bet between the rails part that you can put mounts on for a power wagon cab? Ive seen a few guys running it, I wonder if the part is available somewhere, i dont have a 3d printer yet to print my own, even if i had the file for it.

TK421 06-07-2020 04:59 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
This what you’re looking for bro?

https://salinasdesignconcepts.com/Dr...gon-p141305224

Lou

NABeast 06-07-2020 07:13 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
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Originally Posted by TK421 (Post 6027707)
This what youíre looking for bro?

https://salinasdesignconcepts.com/Dr...gon-p141305224

Lou

Not exactly, Iíve never seen this before. That is pretty sweet though, thank you. "thumbsup"

This is what i am looking for https://youtu.be/2LGPvCFV0N4

I think he has what Iím looking for though. Thank you👍🏼

TK421 06-07-2020 08:17 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
https://salinasdesignconcepts.com/3d...Bed-p141661230

This is pretty close to what was in that vid. BTW, I’m not affiliated with Salinas in any way, lol. I’m ready to order this chassis as soon as I get a bonus check I’m waiting on. It’s gonna be sweet!

Lou

durok 06-08-2020 12:52 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Another Topher build that slipped past me!

Loads of forward-thinking parts in this one, very nice... "thumbsup"

I agree on swapping for a Power Wagon body - it's the most adaptable shell out there, IMHO.

Topher Builds 06-08-2020 10:20 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TK421 (Post 6023096)
Dude, that thing is freak nasty and I love it!

Lou

Thanks Lou!

Quote:

Originally Posted by NABeast (Post 6027706)
This build is awesome. Iím getting parts to start my Gspeed build, do you know where i can get 3d printed rear chassis brace/flat bet between the rails part that you can put mounts on for a power wagon cab? Ive seen a few guys running it, I wonder if the part is available somewhere, i dont have a 3d printer yet to print my own, even if i had the file for it.

I donít but if you find the one youíre looking for please share.

Quote:

Originally Posted by durok (Post 6027785)
Another Topher build that slipped past me!

Loads of forward-thinking parts in this one, very nice... "thumbsup"

I agree on swapping for a Power Wagon body - it's the most adaptable shell out there, IMHO.

Thanks Durok! A PWag is almost certainly in the future, if not till the end of the summer.

TK421 06-10-2020 10:15 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
The metal plates on the front shock tower... is that something that comes with the TGH motor mount?

Lou

Topher Builds 06-10-2020 10:33 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TK421 (Post 6028297)
The metal plates on the front shock tower... is that something that comes with the TGH motor mount?

Lou

Correct.

TXCrawler325 06-10-2020 11:44 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Thanks for posting this up, I’m in the process of doing a similar build and waiting on the TGH Creeper 2Low transmission to come back in stock or find a used one. I had a question about the TGH skid plate. I’m using the TGH DSM with 1.5mm spacers to put me at 70mm spacing in the front. Using a Salinas Designs flat bed in the rear also at 70mm. Is the TGH skid also at 70mm width? I read somewhere it’s around 87mm in width but wouldn’t that make the center section of the frame rails where the skid mounts be bowed out to fit the skid and place stress on the frame rails? What width is the skid you currently have? This is my first time using the G Speed chassis and may be over thinking it. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Topher Builds 06-10-2020 12:03 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
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I don’t have the exact measurements but the skid is wider, this is intentional as having the rails flex creates chassis rigidity.

Top down visual attached. The chassis braces and servo mount are 67mm

TK421 06-10-2020 12:24 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
The skid is 78mm same as the Gspeed skid plate. I emailed Gabriel last night and he confirmed this for me. The frame is designed to be bowed slightly to add rigidity. Most front spacers and mounts are 67-68mm so the frames will come inward 4-5mm on each side. There seems to be a lot of latitude on how to build your frame up. I'm planning a Gspeed V3 build myself so I've been doing a tonne of research. So far I've folks build 78mm front to back, I've seen 78mm at skid and 67mm front and back (Most common set-up I have found), and a I've also seen a few people do 67mm at the front, then 78mm from the skid all the way back.

For me, I'm leaning toward the TGH skid but I'll shave about 2mm each side on the band saw then use SCX10.2 (67-68mm) spacing front and rear.

Lou

TXCrawler325 06-10-2020 12:27 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Awesome this clarifies this totally. I got the V3 chassis in carbon fiber so its good to know the added flex shouldnít hurt anything and is a good thing for rigidity. Thanks so much for the help regarding this.

Stormin2u 06-10-2020 01:03 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Great looking and cleanly crafted a very impressive build.

TK421 06-15-2020 07:02 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Could I trouble you to post some detailed pics of the dual servo mount and Panhard mount? Did you have to add any holes or was it a direct bolt up?

Lou

Topher Builds 06-15-2020 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormin2u (Post 6028335)
Great looking and cleanly crafted a very impressive build.

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TK421 (Post 6029295)
Could I trouble you to post some detailed pics of the dual servo mount and Panhard mount? Did you have to add any holes or was it a direct bolt up?

Lou

Bolts right up. This set up is relatively easy to work on, Iím a fan.

Pardon the dust.

TK421 06-15-2020 09:05 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Thanks bro, good info. How are the factory team shocks? I’m looking hard at the Dravtechs but associated has always made good stuff...

Lou

HumboldtEF 06-15-2020 09:36 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Somehow i've never run across TGH.

Whats the final weight?


Quote:

Originally Posted by TK421 (Post 6029321)
Thanks bro, good info. How are the factory team shocks? Iím looking hard at the Dravtechs but associated has always made good stuff...

Lou




I'd say both are good options but If you want Dravtechs grab them soon because they're closing down but there's still stock out there.

TK421 06-16-2020 03:24 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Dlux fab is closing?!

Lou

Topher Builds 06-16-2020 11:05 AM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HumboldtEF (Post 6029326)
Somehow i've never run across TGH.

Whats the final weight?

Right at 6lbs with the body no battery.

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Originally Posted by TK421 (Post 6029321)
Thanks bro, good info. How are the factory team shocks? Iím looking hard at the Dravtechs but associated has always made good stuff...

Lou

Love them. No complaints at all. Wish I could get these as a 85mm or 80mm

HumboldtEF 06-16-2020 04:38 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
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Originally Posted by TK421 (Post 6029351)
Dlux fab is closing?!

Lou

No Dlux is not closing, he does not make these he just carries them, Dravtech is closing. Its a bummer.

Topher Builds 06-16-2020 04:55 PM

Re: Topher builds a TGH/G-Speed V3
 
Didn’t DLux buy Dravtech to keep the shock line alive?


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