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11-21-2017, 09:48 AM | #21 |
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Very nice work, general. I just found this thread by accident. Buying material online definitely hoses you down. My local metal supplier had roughly 70 feet of 1/4" x .065 or .058 (#30 drill bit fits perfectly inside) dom I scored for $15, in 3 foot sections. Picked up about 100' of 1/4" x .065 HR tube for $21. I continue to buy it whenever I find a deal, just because I can't pass it up. I think I could build about 20 cages with what I have on hand, go fast rigs that take a beating thus the heavy wall. I am curious to see how well your thinner wall material will hold up once complete. Strictly a crawler or some go fast trail time as well? That pic with the side panel and the coved notches is epic. Someone stated earlier that the cages are expensive because of material costs. Ok. Its actually the labor. For those who haven't built a cage, oh my, these are labor intensive, lots of hours. Are you able to keep this rig symmetrical thus far?? Put the cage lacing in last to save yourself some headaches. Keep up the great work, its an inspiration to scratch build. |
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11-21-2017, 05:21 PM | #22 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Folsom, CA
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It will be a crawler/go fast rig. At one point I was literally driving the wheels off it every time I took it out so I bought a Tekno Truggy for fast and retired the Bomber to crawling/lightweight getting it. Hell, if it dents, more scale points | |
11-21-2017, 06:53 PM | #23 |
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A suggestion if you're pondering the roof line. To get your roof line on axis, bend the A pillar first, measure the offset difference between the A pillar and the C pillar. Square off the bender the offset amount of the A pillar. Just make sure you make a left and a right so you only have to bend them once!! Or use a protractor like the 1:1 guys do.
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11-21-2017, 09:30 PM | #24 | |
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11-22-2017, 04:56 PM | #25 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ramona, CA
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With that said, if I had done it,my go to color is Orange so the cage would be that color and I have a white scheme for the Barndog panels. I didn't do the cage and can't possibly think of covering up the joints and cage work with any color. So, I am soda blasting mine and clear powder coating it. Your joints look perfect and I would want to show that of with colors elsewhere. Just my .02 | |
11-22-2017, 07:17 PM | #26 | |
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Thought I'd roll the axles underneath to get an idea how it'll look and it looks... very similar to the plastic cage As you can see, symmetry is almost spot on. It would take a very calculated eye-crometer to notice inconsistencies. | |
11-22-2017, 07:27 PM | #27 |
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When I was bored with the Bomber during summer time I slapped a Proline Toyota on it. In order to get the proportions correct I shortened the front links 1/2" or so. Since I'm now going back to no body, I'm ordering the full Vanquish link set since no one seems to sell the front links only Oh well, at least RPP will get them here quick. Also ordering some Gearhead tabs for whatever I might need to bolt to the chassis.
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12-19-2017, 10:29 PM | #28 |
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Figure I should update this since I got more done on it the last couple days. Got the top main tubes done which turned out pretty good! All I have left to do thats going to be "fun" are the tubes just above the rear axle but nothing like what I've done so far, should be cake. Need more argon for the TIG I included pictures of some of the notches that need to be done. The TIG really doesn't like big gaps to fill, the tighter the better. Also included a pic from the rear showing the symmetry I've got going on. All precision eyeball technique Buddy gave me some RC4WD Kings for the build too |
12-20-2017, 06:48 AM | #29 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Douglassville, PA
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That's looking great - excellent tube work
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12-21-2017, 09:09 AM | #30 |
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Awesome!! Have you thought about different ways to increase wheel travel, particularly up front, before you weld the rest of the tubing/shock mounts into it? You really got me wanting to do one of these things now after seeing your build. Props for the encouraging motivation, for me anyhow. .025 mig hard wire works great for filler rod if you aren't already using it, melts before your tubes do to fill your small gaps. How much does it weigh now? |
12-21-2017, 06:18 PM | #31 | |
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I am using .035 solid core MIG wire for filler and its awesome! 1/16 filler is way too big for tiny stuff like this. Picked up a glass cup for the TIG welder today, time to see what the hype is all about | |
12-28-2017, 07:38 PM | #32 |
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Got a bunch done yesterday. Worked on it for about 6 hours Thinking this chassis might look even better with SCX10 axles and 1.9s... Will be getting the rest of the tube work done tomorrow then its time to fully weld everything then start figuring out how to mount panels. I think I'm going to have the whole chassis bead blasted then coated in Steel-It stainless steel coating. Should turn out pretty good |
12-28-2017, 11:24 PM | #33 |
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As small as it is you can powder coat it in a toaster oven. A Harbor Freight gun is maybe $100 or less, then an old oven. 1000s of choices for color out there. HF has red, black, and white. Maybe yellow. I’ve done a few 1:1 engine parts over the years. ColumbiaCoatings, IIRC, has a good selection. Either way, I think it’ll look good. Last edited by Brake Weight; 12-29-2017 at 12:26 AM. Reason: Fooking spell check |
12-29-2017, 09:47 AM | #34 |
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Looking awesome! Now to finish weld? Hope you have a flex torch! How are you going to mount the body panels? If this were about 6th or 7th scale, I found a source for the appropriate sized dzus fasteners. Expensive as heck, but bad to the bone. Steel-it is common for 1:1 so you're styling, but isn't it like $50 a can? Plans B and C could possibly be rattle can clear (choose your finish from matte to luster) or linseed oil (flammable, can spontaneously combust so use cautiously) which will also darken the tube colors a bit but easy no rust protection and also cheap. Plan D is car wax. Scotch bright the chassis if you want uniform appearance and apply your choice of finish. Any changes/repairs or alterations are easily touched up that way. Most all 1:1 race vehicles are raw or clear coated anyhow so you can see any cracks in the chassis much easier, especially if you're shooting for that full race look.
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12-29-2017, 10:23 AM | #35 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Roseville, Ca
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Flanged M3 nylon lock nuts for panels. The flange will give you something to weld to.
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12-29-2017, 11:23 AM | #36 | |
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12-29-2017, 09:26 PM | #37 | |
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I think Steel-It is only about $20 a can, other companies make stainless aerosols too so I have some options. Best part about those coatings is you can weld over them should any cracks arise. I don't think I've seen a Bomber coated in Steel-It, they are almost all raw metal. Only reason I don't want to do raw is my TIG welds are less than stellar Got more done on the chassis today, just the V bars behind the driver and passenger heads and tubes connecting the rear bumper to the sub frame. These King shocks are going to work out pretty nice! No pictures from todays progress unfortunately. | |
12-29-2017, 09:28 PM | #38 |
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| Re: A different kind of Bomber... Not a bad idea. I bought some Gear Head tabs from RPP I'll probably use in some places and will probably pick up M3 nuts for panels. Only problem I have with the nylock is once you weld a nylock, the nylon is usually toast so I will just use standard M3 nuts.
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12-29-2017, 09:31 PM | #39 |
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| Re: A different kind of Bomber... I drilled out the stock panel holes in the chassis and threaded in some studs then cut down stock body posts and threaded them onto the studs after drilling a hole in them. It actually worked out really well because the Toyota body is wider than the Bomber chassis so the side mounts sucked the body in tight. I don't recall having issues snagging them but I didn't use it much when the body was on.
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12-30-2017, 12:27 AM | #40 | |
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Killer work though! Can I be next in line for one? Lol. | |
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