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Old 05-24-2007, 06:14 PM   #1
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Default Body width and Tube bodies

In rules committee discussed minimum body widths for production bodies and homemade bodies including but not limited to "tube bodies"

The point was to allow stuff like this:
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and not allow this:
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Its a loophole that was disscussed, but some how never made it into the rules.

I want to build one to use locally, but I know a few are being planned for Nationals as well
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:03 AM   #2
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That drag body is not allowed.

The Rules stat:
You must run a body, 10th scale or larger, 70% of the original body, to be determined by judges, 3" minimum height on sides, no more than 3" taken off of total length, no less than 12.5" total length and full width in the center.




Just check....The tallest part of the Body is 3-1/2in Tall. Width is 3-3/8in...So is it Legal?

I guess it would be, but the body is way to long for most Super Class Crawlers. That body is 23in Long. If you removed 3in from the length and you run a 17-1/2in Wheelbase you might have the body hanging off the front or rear.

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i suppose if you had a 23 " wb super it would be long enough
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Old 05-25-2007, 06:01 AM   #4
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Ok you shot down the drag body on height I wasn't interested in running one of those anyway.

I wanted to build a Tube frame body for my "stick" style truck similar to what Grizzly4x4 did mounted on a SW2 chassis (below)

"full width in the center" is the loophole that width was given an actual #, so if someone wanted to make their own body, or a manufacture came out with something like the drag body with legal height it would be coverd.


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Old 05-25-2007, 10:37 AM   #5
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As of now, I am planning to help Ace build a tube body for El Capitan for Nationals.

Since there is no minimum body width stated I hope there will not be any problems in the future.
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As of now, I am planning to help Ace build a tube body for El Capitan for Nationals.

Since there is no minimum body width stated I hope there will not be any problems in the future.
I figured this topic would have dozens of posts of people putting in their 2 cents by now. Guess I'll start building mine according to the "frame " requirements until I hear differently
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You guys can build whatever you want in your local clubs, but when you come to nats, it better be spec or it isn't gonna pass tech and you will not run until it does.
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You guys can build whatever you want in your local clubs, but when you come to nats, it better be spec or it isn't gonna pass tech.
I'll be glad to............what would that spec be?

Length is 12.5" x height is 3", so what is the width?

This was discussed, so what happened ?
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I wanted to run a tube frame on my SW2 super, but never heard any results on if it was legal. I think I heard one NO.
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You guys can build whatever you want in your local clubs, but when you come to nats, it better be spec or it isn't gonna pass tech and you will not run until it does.
I built one tube body and then in the discussion it was going to be ruled as too narrow.
So I built another one expecting the new width rule to be put in place and it wasn't.

I just don't want to build a third one because the width rule gets implemented.
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I built one tube body and then in the discussion it was going to be ruled as too narrow.
So I built another one expecting the new width rule to be put in place and it wasn't.

I just don't want to build a third one because the width rule gets implemented.

I will go back and re-read that section, then talk to jason, then I will post up.
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I will go back and re-read that section, then talk to jason, then I will post up.
That would be great.

One reason I am concerned is that if Ace qualifies for Nats he wants to do a tube body. The other reason is that 666 would like to run one as well and he has been waiting for a while.
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The other reason is that 666 would like to run one as well and he has been waiting for a while.
Well we do not care what he wants


BTW Ben, while your getting information, find out the damn dates also
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Well we do not care what he wants
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I will go back and re-read that section, then talk to jason, then I will post up.

While your at it could ask about the mysterious green writing scattered randomly through the rules is about?
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lexan bodies, we said " FULL " width in the middle, meaning no sectioning. I am still reading.

Tubers are seperate and we did make a rule for those.
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lexan bodies, we said " FULL " width in the middle, meaning no sectioning. I am still reading.

Tubers are seperate and we did make a rule for those.
Got it

Lexan bodies must follow the body rule, and

Tube bodies must follow the tuber rules

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I thought we agreed that tube bodies would have to be Body sized?
We just never followed through on setting the minimum width.
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:09 AM   #19
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hello im in the prosess of building my second tuber,and i saw some where that the lenght of a tuber for 2.2 had to be at least 8 inches is this correct or was this last years rules.
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greatly confused marcos!!
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:00 AM   #20
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Tube bodies do not fall under the same ruling as tube chassis'.

Tube bodies must meet the body requirements but we just don't have a minimum width number to go by. Like Unholy said.
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