Mayhem Engineering 2.2 with 14mm hex

[Mayhem Eng.]

We have a customer asking for a 14mm hex in a 2.2 wheel that we are going to make for him shortly. What we are wanting to know is there anyone else interested in this combo. if so let us know as soon as you can. We will most likely start on this sometime next week. We can do this in the Mayhem "7" and the Mayhem Phatty and double Phatty. We can not do this in the Mayhem spider. Thank you Mayhem Eng.

[cspyy]

yes, i need some with a ZERO offset for clod.
i would buy them

[Mayhem Eng.]

Your on the list....Will keep you posted. Thanks Mayhem Eng.

yes, i need some with a ZERO offset for clod.
i would buy them

[666]

yes, i need some with a ZERO offset for clod.
i would buy them

I would love some! I need them really bad!!

[Mayhem Eng.]

On the list. Thanks M.E."thumbsup"



I would love some! I need them really bad!!

[666]

I would love some! I need them really bad!!

On the list. Thanks M.E."thumbsup"

Thanks, how long do you think before something like this happens?

[Mayhem Eng.]

End of next week, then off to plating. Looking around 2/8/08 if not sooner. Thanks Meyhem Eng.

Thanks, how long do you think before something like this happens?

[GeneralG]

Mayhem I sent you a PM about some wheels. Did you get it?

[Mayhem Eng.]

GeneralG

Yes, we received you pm, sorry we haven't gotten back to you - in the shop....
Can you give me all the details again of what you want. Everything you can think of that I may need to program the rims. Width, diam., offset, hex size, 2.2 or 1.9 etc. Anything you can think of.

mayhem_eng@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Mayhem Eng.



Mayhem I sent you a PM about some wheels. Did you get it?

[JeremyH]

Hey, I knew these would be hot with folks building 2.2 clods, like me!

BTW, sign me up for a set of the 7's!

[Mayhem Eng.]

You are #1 on the list.....You got it Thanks Mayhem Eng.



Hey, I knew these would be hot with folks building 2.2 clods, like me!

BTW, sign me up for a set of the 7's!

[JeremyH]

Thanks a lot man!! I have been wanting a set of 14mm 2.2 BLs for quite some time!

[run2jeepn]

I could use a set.:lol:

[Mayhem Eng.]

Added to the list......Thanks Mayhem Eng.



I could use a set.:lol:

[JeremyH]

I could use a set.:lol:
I was wondering when you'd pop in....

[Mayhem Eng.]

Ok guys, here is what I need, Style rim, ring style, color anodize. I will have more info. on what offsets are available next week. $85.00 + $10.00 shipping in the USA If you know of anyone who would like a 14mm hex please let them know. We plan on adding this to our inventory.
Thanks JeremyH

Thanks Mayhem Eng.

PP info. is rccarparts@yahoo.com

[JeremyH]

Thanks JeremyH
No, thank you!

Here's my order:
Rims: 7's w/black ano
Rings: Nuke Plus silver

[GeneralG]

Mayhem sent you an email for what I'm looking for.

Thanks

[Mayhem Eng.]

Got it....pumping out parts in the shop, I need to think about what you want.... I will have more questions for you I'm sure.....Could you send me a set of tires and rims?



Mayhem sent you an email for what I'm looking for.

Thanks

[Mayhem Eng.]

Anyone else? we will start machining the 14mm on Friday, I need to know what style wheel and ring and color....."thumbsup"


Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[cspyy]

ok, lemme see what you got and i'll figure it out and post up/pm you

[Mayhem Eng.]

Ok.....Thanks


ok, lemme see what you got and i'll figure it out and post up/pm you

[crawl rookie]

I guess this is a zero offset rim for 2.2 clods etc?
Why not 12mm or is that beacause the client has a twinforce?

[JeremyH]

I guess this is a zero offset rim for 2.2 clods etc?
Why not 12mm or is that beacause the client has a twinforce?
Nope, I've got JP small axle tubes and CVDs that use the 14mm hex.

[cspyy]

Nope, I've got JP small axle tubes and CVDs that use the 14mm hex.

riiiight...

[cspyy]

pm'ed you my order mayhem.


lets make sure we get this straight. when i said Zero offset. i want the wheels closer to the knuckle. Narrowest track width. Not widest.

i dont quite know the termination. would that be no backspacing?

[Mayhem Eng.]

Ok, On this first run of 14mm With zero offset, Meaning the bottom of the hex will be on centerline of the wheel, I will offer this in the mayhem "7" and The mayhem phatty for now, I will expand this to other designs as we go and see how much interest there is. Still any color, ring combo you like. $85.00 + $ 10.00 for shipping.....I will start with 10 sets. Keep in mind the mayhem "7" and phatty will change a little in design to accommodate the 14mm hex and zero offset.

Thanks Mayhem Eng.




pm'ed you my order mayhem.


lets make sure we get this straight. when i said Zero offset. i want the wheels closer to the knuckle. Narrowest track width. Not widest.

i dont quite know the termination. would that be no backspacing?

[cspyy]

ok, this is what we are talking about


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df11b3127cceb429cc93687c00000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg

[cspyy]

the gold part is the hex

knuckle/axle is the grey

[Mayhem Eng.]

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68817&highlight=backspacing

pg. two This is courtsey of EeePee....



I see what you want and we can still do it. I think I have the design we need to do this, Let me work on the design and run a prototype set of wheels and I will post up what I have in mind. This design will give you the offset you want...It might take me a week or two so bear with me.


the gold part is the hex

knuckle/axle is the grey

[666]

Well cut mine off, I thought I was looking for a negative offset when in all actuality I am looking for a positive offset. At least that is what it looks like in those pic that HeePee's pics.

[Mayhem Eng.]

?????


Well cut mine off, I thought I was looking for a negative offset when in all actuality I am looking for a positive offset. At least that is what it looks like in those pic that HeePee's pics.

[666]

Sorry, a figure of speech.

I was wrong all along, I am looking for a positive offset. I need the hex to be as far inside the rim as possiable.

If you already made mine I will still take them as that is what I ordered, but if it is at all possiable, I would like a positive offset.

Sorry,
Patrick

[run2jeepn]

Well cut mine off, I thought I was looking for a negative offset when in all actuality I am looking for a positive offset. At least that is what it looks like in those pic that HeePee's pics.

x2.. I'm looking for set of beadlocks with a 100% Postive Offset.

These are what I think 666 is looking for. Same as myself. I made these from some Tayima Plastic Wheels. I cut out a inner Ring from 6061T Alumn with a 14mm Hex. The Outer Ring is SS. The Axles Hex backs up to the Outer SS Ring. I Cut the Centers out of the Plastic Wheels.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/jpcustomrcs/DSCF1591.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/jpcustomrcs/DSCF1592.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/jpcustomrcs/DSCF1593.jpg

[Mayhem Eng.]

Haven't started any of them yet, just trying to make sure we are all on the same page. I want to run a prototype to make sure my design is correct....



Sorry, a figure of speech.

I was wrong all along, I am looking for a positive offset. I need the hex to be as far inside the rim as possiable.

If you already made mine I will still take them as that is what I ordered, but if it is at all possiable, I would like a positive offset.

Sorry,
Patrick

[Mayhem Eng.]

That thing is wicked........."thumbsup"




x2.. I'm looking for set of beadlocks with a 100% Postive Offset.

These are what I think 666 is looking for. Same as myself. I made these from some Tayima Plastic Wheels. I cut out a inner Ring from 6061T Alumn with a 14mm Hex. The Outer Ring is SS. The Axles Hex backs up to the Outer SS Ring. I Cut the Centers out of the Plastic Wheels.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/jpcustomrcs/DSCF1591.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/jpcustomrcs/DSCF1592.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/jpcustomrcs/DSCF1593.jpg

[run2jeepn]

The only down fall to making Beadlocks like the above is the Inner Ring. You have to make it as small has you can or it won't clear Stock Clod Knuckles or Axle C's. In the Above Picture are after Market Clod Knuckles and C's. You can see the Wheel covers almost all of the Axle C's. That wouldn't have worked with Stock parts. I'm not sure if it is possible to make beadlocks with 100% Postive Offset and have them Clear the Axle C's... But I Hope I'm Wrong.

[Mayhem Eng.]

Trial and Error - I have no problem in putting in the time to try and figure something out. Let's see what we can do. Is anyone interested in testing some prototypes down the road????


The only down fall to making Beadlocks like the above is the Inner Ring. You have to make it as small has you can or it won't clear Stock Clod Knuckles or Axle C's. In the Above Picture are after Market Clod Knuckles and C's. You can see the Wheel covers almost all of the Axle C's. That wouldn't have worked with Stock parts. I'm not sure if it is possible to make beadlocks with 100% Postive Offset and have them Clear the Axle C's... But I Hope I'm Wrong.

[666]

I will send you a clod axle if you do not have any to figure out the best approach to this.

And in my opinion, I would make a great tester.

[Mayhem Eng.]

You got it.....I will pm you the address tomorrow.....It's time to crash.....Thanks Mayhem Eng.



I will send you a clod axle if you do not have any to figure out the best approach to this.

And in my opinion, I would make a great tester.

[cspyy]

yes, i want the same as these guys 100% positive offset

i have the aftermarket knuckels and tubes so they will clear mine "thumbsup"

[JeremyH]

Mayhem, the above is exactly what I am looking for....


riiiight...
Not sure what you mean by that.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000345.jpg

[Mayhem Eng.]

jeremyH

I got it, You already posted pp We can do two things I can refund your money or hold it, It's your call, not a problem either way just let me know. I have what I think is a good design in mind and I'm anxious To get going on it.....Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[JeremyH]

You can hold onto it.

[cspyy]

i said that in reference to your reply to this:


I guess this is a zero offset rim for 2.2 clods etc?
Why not 12mm or is that beacause the client has a twinforce?


sorry if i confused anyone

[Mayhem Eng.]

Ok I will have 3 working prototypes by next friday. One to 666, one to run2jeepn and one to jeremyh. These will be Mayhem Spiders for the prototypes. These will have as much positive offset as we can get. I was running some spiders today and got to looking at the setup and prog I was running and noticed I only needed to make a couple of changes to make it work. So as soon as the spiders clear the machine I will run 3 or 4 sets and get them shipped. The guys that are doing the testing pm me your addresses .

Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[cspyy]

good, im waiting :twisted:

[Mayhem Eng.]

The first ones came off yesterday, they look good. Now I need to make up some rings. I will post some pics later today and should be ready to ship Thursday or Friday for testing.

Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[cspyy]

hell yea.

i just stripped out my front wheel hexes a few minutes ago.

i need them BAADD. we got a comp this weekend

[cspyy]

what happen to those pics?

dont post them if they will get in your way of getting the wheels done though!! "thumbsup""thumbsup"

[Hawk Mortimer]

Mayhem,

I have a set of 14mm hex 2.2 beadlock wheels that I had made to fit a clod axle set up that I purchased from JP Customs / run2jeepn.

The wheel I had made works on clod axles using JP Custom "Short CVD Axle" which uses his 14MM hex. With his CVD setup and the 2.2 wheels I had made with RC4WD Rock Crusher tires the "track width" is 12", 1/2" under the 12 1/2" max track width for the 2008 USRCCA 2.2 class.

I have had a problem for a long time talking with people about "wheel off-set, pos. or neg.", it is a topic that I still don't fully understand and I think there are a lot of people out there that don't understand it.

When I was talking to the guy that made my wheels we used the, "distance from the inside surface of the wheel (with ring mounted) to the bottom of the 14MM counter bore" as the off-set so we were talking about the same thing. That dimension on my wheels checks 1.00 inches and it clears everything on my set up. The mounting hole checks .278 dia.thru. My wheels works quite well.

Don't know if this has helped, but I hope it has.

I also would like a "set" if you can make them close to the same off-set I have now.

Thanks,
Hawk

[Mayhem Eng.]

I went back And looked at the diagram to make sure I understood it. Heres my take "backspacing" is from the inside lip of the wheel to the wms, "offset" is from center line of the wheel to wms, Two different ways to explain the same thing? The prototype wheels I made today have 1.33 (33.8mm) of backspacing, I remachined some rings I had in order to make a ring that I hope will not interfer. These wheels are going out tomorrow for testing. I may find out that I have to much backspacing? And may need to move the wms closer to the center line, inside lip of the wheel? Looking at what I have it looks good.....We will see, I will keep everone posted....Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[666]

I can't wait to hear the results!! Thank you for making the effort!"thumbsup"

[Hawk Mortimer]

I'm sure Mayhem will get them working just great, he makes a real nice product and his service when there is a problem is super fast.
I have a set of his Phatty 12mm wheels and they are nice, gold with black rings.

I think for the 14mm wheels I'll go with the Double Phatty (gold) with Comp. ME 2004 Rings (black).

Mayhem put me down for a set of 14mm wheels (as listed above) and let me know when you want payment. "thumbsup"

Thanks,
Hawk

[Mayhem Eng.]

Thanks Hawk.......I will pencil you in. Hold your money until we get the testing done and changes made. Might be a week or two, wll keep you posted. Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[Hawk Mortimer]

The paragraph below is from a reply I posted "yesterday at 8:58PM and it contains an error, The "track width is 12" as stated below (under lined and in bold print) should be "track width is 11 inches" 1 1/2 inches under the max. track width.. When I made the measurement last night I used a 24" steel scale that has 1" cut off so it starts at the 2" mark, that's why I got it real cheap some years back.

I also made one other check, at all four corners with wheels mounted and secured to the axles; from the center line of the top king pin (screw) to the inside surface of the tire mounting ring (on the wheel), it checks 5/16" at all four corners.

Just wanted to correct my error and add some additional (correct) information I checked it four times.

So, in my opinion if you want to be in the 2.2 class with clod axles the way to go is with JP Custom's "Short CVD Set-up". His short CVD set-up really works with the correct BL wheels and it looks like Mayhem is going to be making them. Thanks

Sorry for the error,
Hawk



REF. PARA.
The wheel I had made works on clod axles using JP Custom "Short CVD Axle" which uses his 14MM hex. With his CVD setup and the 2.2 wheels I had made with RC4WD Rock Crusher tires the "track width" is 12", 1/2" under the 12 1/2" max track width for the 2008 USRCCA 2.2 class.

[Mayhem Eng.]

They will ship tomorrow for testing. Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[JeremyH]

They will ship tomorrow for testing. Thanks Mayhem Eng.
Awesome!

Hawk, the reason you listed is exactly why I asked Mayhem to make these wheels! I have the same setup.

[Hawk Mortimer]

Awesome!

Hawk, the reason you listed is exactly why I asked Mayhem to make these wheels! I have the same setup.

I'm hoping to get a track width closer to 12" with the Mayhem wheels. I had a terrible time finding wheels for those 14mm hexes and I didn't like the idea of making something that would work out of plastic or "trying" to make something out of plastic that is. Now I have a nice set of BL wheels with a track width that is almost to narrow and I can't find any 14mm to 14mm spacers or wheel widners. Oh well, I'm sure Mayhem is going to come thru. "thumbsup"

Later,
Hawk

[666]

I got my wheels for testing today, I will say these wheels are beefcake! I am messing with various setups right now and have been for quite some time. For now to make these work I am using Thundertech cvd's and their 14mm hexes. I need to try some different knuckles as these rc4wd's are dangerously close to the ring.

I shall let some pics do the talking for now.

[Mayhem Eng.]

One thing I can do is less backspacing. If we had less backspacing say about .250 or so I think everything would clear just fine, what do you think?

[666]

I have differant knuckles I will try that will clear better. If we go with a differant backspacing that will make it wider and that I do not want. I have a few tricks that I will play with tomorrow after work. I am beat from working a 12 hour day and then I tore this thing down to go from stock axles back to cvd's. I first tried to mount them to fit with stock axles.


I want to give a big thanks to Mayhem for working with us on this to create these beadlocks!!"thumbsup"

[JeremyH]

Well, I'll have to agree with 666, these things are stout!

I came home to a package on my doorstep and it was quickly opened. I am impressed with the packing. Bubble wrap and multiple layers of thick paper around each wheel:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000427.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000435.jpg

And this was inside:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000439.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000441.jpg

Here they are with a Kreepy Red and narrowed Masher wrapped around them:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000429.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000433.jpg

And now, for the all important track width shot. You will have to excuse the unfinished project. Just as a note, the axles you see have JP Customs small C axle tubes, small knuckles, short CVDs and 14mm hexes along with the MSD BTA steering kit. Pics:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000442.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000443.jpg

It sits at about 10.75" from edge of tire to edge of tire.

And the only problem that I see:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000444.jpg

I think that this problem will be solved with a lower profile kingpin. The ring is barely contacting the screw. I am not sure that this can be solved by adjusting the diameter of the ring as it looks like it would interfere with the bolt holes. I'll head to the hardware store tomorrow to see if I can find some button heads that will fit.

Overall, I am really impressed with these wheels. I can pull as hard as possible and the wheels do not lose a bead...even with only 4 screws mounting the ring.

Mayhem, you did a great job!!

[Mayhem Eng.]

What if we used less backspacing? say 1/8 or so?

[666]

Using stock axle tubes mine are tucked as close to the axle c as possiable after I shaved the rounded pieces a little. My track width is around 11 1/4 running Thundertech cvd's. I think I might get some of run2jeepins special axle tubes so I can narrow it like Jeremys.

Mayhem what do you think about a bit narrower rim, and do you think you could make the i.d. on the inside a tad bigger?

[666]

What if we used less backspacing? say 1/8 or so?

Just say no to backspacing!:lol: If the i.d. on the rim can be opened up these would work well on Wheelie King axles also!!"thumbsup"

[Mayhem Eng.]

How much narrow and how much on the i.d.?




Using stock axle tubes mine are tucked as close to the axle c as possiable after I shaved the rounded pieces a little. My track width is around 11 1/4 running Thundertech cvd's. I think I might get some of run2jeepins special axle tubes so I can narrow it like Jeremys.

Mayhem what do you think about a bit narrower rim, and do you think you could make the i.d. on the inside a tad bigger?

[JeremyH]

What if we used less backspacing? say 1/8 or so?
Give me a shot at fixing the clearance with different kingpins. The current screws are only touching by a hair....

[666]

How much narrow and how much on the i.d.?

Maybe 1" wide and 2" i.d.? I don't have calipers to measure with though.

[Mayhem Eng.]

Ok,Ok, Give me some numbers and I will see what I can do. Thanks for all the input.


Just say no to backspacing!:lol: If the i.d. on the rim can be opened up these would work well on Wheelie King axles also!!"thumbsup"

[Mayhem Eng.]

So if the inside of the ring on your rig had a chamfer on the inside it might clear?



Give me a shot at fixing the clearance with different kingpins. The current screws are only touching by a hair....

[JeremyH]

So if the inside of the ring on your rig had a chamfer on the inside it might clear?
That is likely!

BTW, I really appreciate your willingness to listen to us about making these wheels!!"thumbsup"

[666]

Well a clod axle c is 2 1/8" it looks with my tape, and a WK c is pretty much 2".

[JeremyH]

I measure the C's on these JP tubes at 1.75 from outermost point of kingpin to kingpin....

[cspyy]

hell mine hit, ive got stock axle shafts with 14mm hexes

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc35b3127cceb54787569f8900000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg


all he needs to do is cut 1/8" off the inside of the wheel, to make the wheel 1" wide like some other ones i have and they will work perfect.

leave the backspacing alone!

make the wheel 1" wide. right now it is 1 1/8"

[Mayhem Eng.]

ok, send them back and I will remove 1/8 off of the wheels and then send them back to you guys for a fit/clearance test. It will only take me a hour or so to modify them.

[cspyy]

I measure the C's on these JP tubes at 1.75 from outermost point of kingpin to kingpin....


like this? ;-)

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc35b3127cceb54781ac1e4000000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg

[cspyy]

inside of wheel

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc35b3127cceb54781899f5500000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg

[cspyy]

i have these 2.2 beadlocks that would actually fit over the the knuckles

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc35b3127cceb54781159fc900000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg

it uses smaller screws also

[cspyy]

is there any way you could round the edges on the wavy part of the wheel? you know the 8 wiggly spokes

[Mayhem Eng.]

no....


is there any way you could round the edges on the wavy part of the wheel? you know the 8 wiggly spokes

[cspyy]

ok, well ive got mine wrapped all up again. i'll take them to work with me tomorrow to ship em out to you. "thumbsup"

thanks man

cody

[Mayhem Eng.]

Got it, Thanks


ok, well ive got mine wrapped all up again. i'll take them to work with me tomorrow to ship em out to you. "thumbsup"

thanks man

cody

[JeremyH]

like this? ;-)
Hey, my measurement wasn't too shabby considering I was only using a tape measure...:lol:

[blue-beard]

Damn these things look pimp! 8)
Way to step up to the plate Mayhem on testing a new product out. "thumbsup"

[Hawk Mortimer]

Hawk here, based on JeremyH pictures , his set-up is the same as mine (using JP Custom 14mm hex axles), the 1/8 narrower on the wheel width (material removed from inside surface of wheel) and chamfer on ID of inside ring will do it for me. Increasing inner ID of wheel will also help.

When do you want my money, I would like them as soon as possible.

Great job, working with your customers the way you have. Thanks for that kind of effort, you're one of very few. "thumbsup"

I would like a set of your Double Phatty ME-1003 wheels "GOLD" and Mayhem Comp. ME-2004 rings "BLACK".

Thanks,
Hawk

[Mayhem Eng.]

Good morning Hawk, And thanks. I will put you down for the new wheel. It will be about a week before I can get back on them, I have a job I'm doing for another customer right now. I'm in the process of redesigning the double phatty all I have available in the double phatty is blue and just about any color and style ring you want. I do have a narrow phatty in gold, red, machine finish, black or wide phatty in black or machine finish.... we can sent pics

Thanks,
Mayhem




Hawk here, based on JeremyH pictures , his set-up is the same as mine (using JP Custom 14mm hex axles), the 1/8 narrower on the wheel width (material removed from inside surface of wheel) and chamfer on ID of inside ring will do it for me. Increasing inner ID of wheel will also help.

When do you want my money, I would like them as soon as possible.

Great job, working with your customers the way you have. Thanks for that kind of effort, you're one of very few. "thumbsup"

I would like a set of your Double Phatty ME-1003 wheels "GOLD" and Mayhem Comp. ME-2004 rings "BLACK".

Thanks,
Hawk

[JeremyH]

Well, I went around to 5 different hardware stores this morning and not one of them had any size button head bolts, let alone M4s. I know, it's because I live in a small town. :roll: So I decided that I would just drop in an M3 button head to see if it even had a chance of clearing. Nope.

Mayhem, I guess I'll box these back up and ship them back to you for a bit more clearance.

Thanks!!

[chrisjlittle]

What might help with clearance would be to use flat beadlock rings on the back side. Something like the axial or VF rings. The sunken head is nice on the outside, but for this I think it just takes up valuable clearance on the inside.

[cspyy]

yea this style right here would work easily, but i believe all of us are wanting a 1" wide wheel anyways. so they will work out

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc35b3127cceb54781159fc900000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg

[Hawk Mortimer]

Good morning Hawk, And thanks. I will put you down for the new wheel. It will be about a week before I can get back on them, I have a job I'm doing for another customer right now. I'm in the process of redesigning the double phatty all I have available in the double phatty is blue and just about any color and style ring you want. I do have a narrow phatty in gold, red, machine finish, black or wide phatty in black or machine finish.... we can sent pics

Thanks,
Mayhem


Mayhem,

What I would like is a set of your Double Phatty ME-1003 wheels "GOLD" "with a 14MM mounting hex" and Mayhem Comp. ME-2004 rings "BLACK" when the 14MM hexes are all worked out and ready to go.

I have a set of your 12MM double phatty, guess my earlier message did sound like I wanted another set of 12's.

Thanks,
Hawk

[Mayhem Eng.]

You got it. Thanks



Mayhem,

What I would like is a set of your Double Phatty ME-1003 wheels "GOLD" "with a 14MM mounting hex" and Mayhem Comp. ME-2004 rings "BLACK" when the 14MM hexes are all worked out and ready to go.

I have a set of your 12MM double phatty, guess my earlier message did sound like I wanted another set of 12's.

Thanks,
Hawk

[run2jeepn]

Do we have a test Pic of these wheels Yet? I'm sure they look sweet....:)

[Mayhem Eng.]

I have a job thats kicking my A$$ that I need to get out by Friday, I'm still machining parts right now. So I haven't done anything. It will be Monday. I don't want to work this weekend...lol I'm pretty sure your stuff went out. Along with the test wheels.


Do we have a test Pic of these wheels Yet? I'm sure they look sweet....:)

[cspyy]

did you get my wheels back yet?

i sent them out friday, may not show till tomorrow

[Mayhem Eng.]

Not yet.


did you get my wheels back yet?

i sent them out friday, may not show till tomorrow

[Mayhem Eng.]

I got two packages back from cspyy and jeremyh, I have not heard from 666 and run2jeepn has not got his yet. I will jump on them first thing Monday. Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[666]

Sorry I have been practicing with them alot and I am using them at the KC comp next weekend as they are all I have right now. Plus I do not have funds to buy JP's Custom knuckles and tubes yet. But if you want them now I will ship them out tomorrow.

Thanks,
Patrick

[JeremyH]

Good deal. I was going to send you a PM to make sure they arrived today.

Jeremy

[Mayhem Eng.]

Just curious about how they are working? Some of the other guys have requested mods. Weren't sure what your requirements or mods would be. Just let us know what you think? Good Luck on the comp.

Thanks,
Mayhem Eng.

Sorry I have been practicing with them alot and I am using them at the KC comp next weekend as they are all I have right now. Plus I do not have funds to buy JP's Custom knuckles and tubes yet. But if you want them now I will ship them out tomorrow.

Thanks,
Patrick

[666]

They work great!! They have got me as narrow as I can using stock clod axles. As for mods to them I think boreing (or whatever you call it) out the inside as much as you can and maybe make them 1" wide?

And thanks for the luck, I will need it!"thumbsup"

[Mayhem Eng.]

How about some pics at the comp. when you get a chance?



They work great!! They have got me as narrow as I can using stock clod axles. As for mods to them I think boreing (or whatever you call it) out the inside as much as you can and maybe make them 1" wide?

And thanks for the luck, I will need it!"thumbsup"

[666]

How about some pics at the comp. when you get a chance?

Sure thing, I am going out this weekend, I will try to get some good pics then also.

[NoblesvilleKid]

Has anyone tried these on TXT axles with a 14mm adapter? Is there any rubbing?

[JeremyH]

Has anyone tried these on TXT axles with a 14mm adapter? Is there any rubbing?
Nope, but when I get them back I can slap them on my TXT and show you what they will look like with the stock hex. Does your 14mm adapter widen the stance at all?

[NoblesvilleKid]

Nope, but when I get them back I can slap them on my TXT and show you what they will look like with the stock hex. Does your 14mm adapter widen the stance at all?

I plan on using these, they do not look like they widen very much
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Junfac-12mm-to-14mm-Plastic-Wheel-Adapter-4-for-Tamiya-Clodbuster-TXT-1-TLT-1-p-16232.html

[JeremyH]

Yeah, not much at all. What knucles are you running on your TXT? I wont be able to show you stock as mine have rc4wd knuckles, but if everything clears mine then yours should be good too, since they are a tad wider...

[NoblesvilleKid]

Yeah, not much at all. What knucles are you running on your TXT? I wont be able to show you stock as mine have rc4wd knuckles, but if everything clears mine then yours should be good too, since they are a tad wider...

They are stock

[LIKES2CRAWL]

Updates on these? They look prety cool.

[JeremyH]

Mayhem is still making changes to mine.

[Mayhem Eng.]

Will get to them this week.

[JeremyH]

Awesome! Thanks.

[run2jeepn]

Well here are mine... With the Raw look.:twisted:

I'm running the small knuckles and Tubes. I also had to replace the knuckles bolts to make these fit. The bolts for the knuckles are only $6 Shipped for 20 of them....;-) Just under 10.5in Track Width.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/spg7565/CIMG0924.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/spg7565/CIMG0925.jpg

[Mayhem Eng.]

So you like the offset and width of the wheels? or would 1.00 wide wheels work better for you.

[run2jeepn]

So you like the offset and width of the wheels? or would 1.00 wide wheels work better for you.

The width is fine for me... I like to have some of the wheel covering the Axle C's. Helps pull the tire closer to the Center. Gives better GC...and narrower track width, but The only way this can be done. Is to buy the small Tubes/Knuckles and switch out the bolts for the Knuckles.


P.S...If one is running TTR CVD's. This width should work as well with out changing anything, but maybe upgrade from Plastic knuckles to Alumn ones.

[cspyy]

yea i got all the same stuff. mine hit the bolts. what kinda bolts did you put back in the knuckles? do they have countersunk looking heads?

[JeremyH]

The bolts for the knuckles are only $6 Shipped for 20 of them....;-)
HaHa!

So they would have cleared on mine? Damn...I should have been more patient!

[Mayhem Eng.]

I have not started on them yet?

[Mayhem Eng.]

I have not started on them yet? let me know

[run2jeepn]

The bolts haven't came in yet, but I filed down the stock bolts. I left just enough to still unscrew it. They worked fine. But they just barely Clear. Hey mayhem if you coul move the beadlocks inner bolts just 3/16in farther out. They would work better. Not sure if thats possible or not. Might look into that. Also you can save almost 1/4in on track width if you machine the outer beadlock flush with them wheel itself. That would move the mounting (Hex) surface closer. basically you would gain the thickness of 2 beadlock rings. Just under 1/4in there. I have attached an image that might help. Also if these bolts do work great. I will PM Mayhem the part number for them. They are pretty cheap and he can have them on hand for Customers who needs them. I will also carry them and have extra around that can be ordered along with the small knuckles and tubes.

Like I said before. I think the width is perfect for me. Right now the way they are they just cover up the Axle C's where the knuckle bolts up. Which is a snag point for rocks. With this set up you take care of that. No more snagging the axle C's on rocks. This also brings in the tires and gives better clearance for the gear case.

[Mayhem Eng.]

I will look into that, Thanks

[Mayhem Eng.]

Don't forget about the drawing on the first.......If you bought a set of wheels you are entered and if you post a pic by tomorrow midnight you are entered again. Prize is your choice of a set of Mayhem Eng. Beadlocks. We want action pics!!!!!

Last months winner was "rckcrwlr" Thanks to everyone....

If you bought wheels and have not gotten them your entered in this months drawing. When you get your wheels and send in a pic you will be entered again next month.

Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[Mayhem Eng.]

jeremyh and cspyy I will be working on your wheels tomorrow first thing. I will post up some pics tomorrow afternoon and ship back to you on monday for more testing and feed back....Thanks

[run2jeepn]

I got the new bolts to work, but still had to file them down some. I'm going to order some Set screws that sit flush with the Axle C's and see how that works.

[JeremyH]

Damn, I was sure those button heads would work.

How are you going to get set screws to clamp down on the C? Wont they allow the knuckle to move?

[run2jeepn]

Damn, I was sure those button heads would work.

How are you going to get set screws to clamp down on the C? Wont they allow the knuckle to move?

The screws don't clamp anything..They just keep it in place and give a pivit point. With loc-tite they should stay put fine. If that doesn't work out. I'm going to see if I can just counter sink the button head screws into the axle C's a little. Just grab a larger drill bit and drill out about 1/4 of the way down. Then cut/file down the brass brushing and reinstall everything. This is all off the top of my head so this might not work. Where not looking for to much more room. So counter sinking might work better then filling or the set screw.

If I can counter sink them on top and bottom 1/8in.. That should work combined with the button head screws. But I'm going to try the set screws first. Placing order now for those...:)

One quick question thou... The screws are 4mm x 12mm... Is that just the threaded length or the whole thing. Head included? Should I order the 4mm x 10mm or x 12mm set screws?

[JeremyH]

Ahh....ok. Sounds like a good plan!

[cspyy]

the head is not included

just the threads

[Mayhem Eng.]

666 said he had an axle I could use to help in the design of the wheel. Does anyone have one I could use to help mock up a wheel with? This would speed up the process? Thanks

[JeremyH]

Which axle are you looking for? Stock? I think that is what 666 is currently using.

[Mayhem Eng.]

Ya, that would work....

Which axle are you looking for? Stock? I think that is what 666 is currently using.

[JeremyH]

Ya, that would work....
Oh, I don't have any stock tubes...

[cspyy]

ive got stock knuckles and tubes, hell you can have them if you want. but no stub shafts or inner shafts, as i am using them

[Mayhem Eng.]

Alright guys finally got the rework done, I knocked off 1/8 (.125) of an inch. I will be shipping them out tomorrow. You may have to find a shorter screw. Let me know.

[run2jeepn]

Alright guys finally got the rework done, I knocked off 1/8 (.125) of an inch. I will be shipping them out tomorrow. You may have to find a shorter screw. Let me know.


Sounds good. I should have my screws in any day now and I will post up my findings for you.

[Mayhem Eng.]

looking forward to it....

[JeremyH]

Awesome! Thanks Mayhem!

[Mayhem Eng.]

They shipped.....

[JeremyH]

Good deal! Thanks man.

[run2jeepn]

The set screws works fine, but you do have a couple of simple things to do. The brass spacer needs to be glued in. Since the set screws don't have a head on them. The Brass spacers fall out. Then once you get the wheels bolted on they Beadlocks hit the arms of the knuckles. A little filing and it's all good. Pic's later tonight.

[run2jeepn]

Pic's and how to here..

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1085786#post1085786

[JeremyH]

Well, I got mine back from Mayhem after narrowing the inside just a bit and it looks like they will clear:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000468.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000466.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000469.jpg

Mayhem, the only thing that I would do additionally to these is to bevel the inner ring. You'll notice that I switched kingpins after I sent back the first batch to buttonhead bolts. They give a bit more clearance, however, if you shaved down the inner part of the inner ring, folks should be set with the stock kingpins and this design of wheels.

They are great!

[cspyy]

how about cutting the bead groove deeper into the wheel. mine went it good, just seems like they could be a lil deeper, like some other wheels i have

[cspyy]

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd26b3127cceb5be8b0d923300000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg

[cspyy]

:twisted: MAYHEM :twisted: action shots


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd30b3127cceb646777778f800000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd30b3127cceb64676a6b98100000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd30b3127cceb646777378fc00000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd30b3127cceb646777b78f400000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd30b3127cceb646776178ee00000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd30b3127cceb6467752f9ed00000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd30b3127cceb6467724f99b00000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg




They hold a bead, look!!

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd30b3127cceb64676b738a000000026100AcsXLRszZuW Mg

[JeremyH]

Looks awesome man!

[run2jeepn]

Got mine mounted up and already seen some Rocks....:twisted: These are nice and Top Notch The icing on the Cake for any 2.2 Clod. Mayhem you have my Biz anytime I need a set of beadlocks..."thumbsup"
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/spg7565/DSCF1877.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/spg7565/DSCF1879.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/spg7565/DSCF1878.jpg?t=1205319509

[Mayhem Eng.]

I want to say thank you to all the testers jemeryh, run2jeepn, cspyy, 666 We hope to have a production wheel next month. Again thanks guys you rock.....Thanks for the pics. Mayhem Eng."thumbsup"

[JeremyH]

No, no, no.....thank you! We appreciate the fact that you are willing to make a wheel that isnt as popular as other items. Great product and excellent customer service!!

[666]

I want to say thank you to all the testers jemeryh, run2jeepn, cspyy, 666 We hope to have a production wheel next month. Again thanks guys you rock.....Thanks for the pics. Mayhem Eng."thumbsup"


No.... YOU ROCK!!!!:) Thanks Mayhem!!

I will get some pics as soon as I get a new camera(mine ate dirt) and I have to make a new rig as mine broke in half because it would not do what I wanted it to. Is it just me or do 2.2 clods hate vertical climbs?

R2J, your rig looks sick!:twisted: Do you still think you need tall tires now that we have the width issue taken care of?

[cspyy]

No, no, no.....thank you! We appreciate the fact that you are willing to make a wheel that isnt as popular as other items. Great product and excellent customer service!!


yea what he said!


thanks 8)

[run2jeepn]

No.... YOU ROCK!!!!:) Thanks Mayhem!!

I will get some pics as soon as I get a new camera(mine ate dirt) and I have to make a new rig as mine broke in half because it would not do what I wanted it to. Is it just me or do 2.2 clods hate vertical climbs?

R2J, your rig looks sick!:twisted: Do you still think you need tall tires now that we have the width issue taken care of?


X2 of the Fact the MAYHEM ROCKS... These beadlocks are Perfect..."thumbsup"

666, I don't think I do, but I'm going to run these for a little and see how they do. I played with the sidewalls and Foams with these. I think I have them right where I need them to preform. But I'm going to try and run some cones with some. 2.2 Badlands once I get the chance.

[nj05nismo]

damn i wanted 32hole spiders...guess they are only avail in the 14mm hex

[Parker]

Did you get my PM from this AM?

[Mayhem Eng.]

We had no internet all morning. I will get that inf o. for you today. Mayhem Eng.


Did you get my PM from this AM?

[Heinakin]

pm sent

[Mayhem Eng.]

Never got it? Mayhem Eng.


pm sent

[Heinakin]

pm re-sent

[Mayhem Eng.]

Got it that time and tag your it...

pm re-sent

[Heinakin]

Tagged you back!!:lol:

[Heinakin]

And again"thumbsup"

[Parker]

How are mine coming?

Can't wait!

[Mayhem Eng.]

I have a couple of small jobs to do the first part of the week and then we are going to start on the 2.2 clod wheels. We will start with 15 sets and see how it goes from there. we will be making the Mayhem "7" and spider only. Look through this thread for some pics of the wheels. we will be doing the same colors of ano as we do with the other wheels. This wheel has a positive offset moving the wheel close to the chassis (see jemeryH post in this thread) These will sell for $85.00 + $10.00 for shipping. jemeryh yours will be the first off, Thanks for being patient. We can do either the 12mm or 14mm same price just let me know.

Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[JeremyH]

jemeryh yours will be the first off, Thanks for being patient.
Awesome! Thanks.

[Mayhem Eng.]

jermeyH, your wheels just came off the machine, I will post up a pic tonight. I still need machine the rings. Thank you Mayhem Eng.

[JasonC]

Mayhem, do you know if this positive offset wheel would fit on the ax-10 axle? I hope this hasn't been asked and I didn't see it in the 2,632,456 post in this thread.

[JeremyH]

Jason, these rims have a 14mm hex. Is that what the Ax-10 uses? I thought it required a 12mm hex. You might want to check out this thread:
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103930

Mayhem, sounds awesome! I got a bit of time to mess with the crawler (even with the broken axle, 3WD was fun) and here is what it looks like:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000558.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000557.jpg

[Mayhem Eng.]

No they will not work with the ax-10 they kinda hit everything. We are doing some wk offsets next. Thanks Mayhem Eng.


Mayhem, do you know if this positive offset wheel would fit on the ax-10 axle? I hope this hasn't been asked and I didn't see it in the 2,632,456 post in this thread.

[Mayhem Eng.]

JeremyH, looks good. Your wheels are done just need to deburr them and get some rings together. They will ship on the week of the 28th. Thanks Mayhem Eng. I will post up some pic's later.

[JeremyH]

Awesome! BTW, I measure the track width at 10.5" That is with the short CVDs. However, I think I am going to go with the TTR CVDs which will add 1/2" to that number.

[Mayhem Eng.]

Here you go Jeremy

63333


63334

Let me know what you think....

Thanks,

Mayhem Engineering

[blue-beard]

I don't know what he thinks but I think they are awesome looking!:shock: 8)
Top notch work! "thumbsup"

[JeremyH]

Pimp!

[Mayhem Eng.]

jeremyH, I'm happy to say I finished them and they will ship today. If you have any questions about the wheels when you get them just let me know. Thanks for the chance to make you some wheels. A little history on this set of wheels he has been waiting like 2 months or better for them. Thanks for hanging in there.8)"thumbsup"

Thanks Mayhem Eng.

[JeremyH]

Mayhem, I got the wheels earlier this week and finally got a set of large diameter foams to fit my tires. Here is how everything turned out:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000612.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/z_hansenjm/RC/Clod1/P1000610.jpg

I LOVE the wheels! They are exactly what I was asking for and I really appreciate you taking the time to create these wheels (along with the others)!!