Rules for Rescue Rigs?

[Rudukai13]

Thinking about building a recovery vehicle and bringing it along, but wanted to know if there will be any rules other then "make it scale". Also wondering if we can bring large scale rigs?

[slobin3d]

there are several people planning on bringing Large scale rigs, If there is enough of them we will get something going for you.

Bring everything you can stuff in your car or suitcase"thumbsup"

[Rudukai13]

What about recovery rigs? I was thinking about doing a sort of halftrack vehicle...Let me know if this would be allowed. If it is I will move it up on the projects list.

[braceysdad]

I'm running a front and rear winch, is that cool?

[STANG KILLA SS]

What about recovery rigs? I was thinking about doing a sort of halftrack vehicle...Let me know if this would be allowed. If it is I will move it up on the projects list.

i would be VERY interestd in this......:shock:"thumbsup":twisted:

[jason]

Why would anyone need a rescue vehicle?




Ohhh, I forgot everyone doesn't drive like the Colorado guys.

[slobin3d]

What about recovery rigs? I was thinking about doing a sort of halftrack vehicle...Let me know if this would be allowed. If it is I will move it up on the projects list.you thinking of following one truck with another? or driving around a seriously badass tow truck?


You can run multiple winches if you have the radio for it"thumbsup"

[Rudukai13]

I'm talking about building a tow rig that is used when the tow rig gets caught :twisted:

And Jason-I'm from Colorado, but I felt like helping those who are less fortunate.

[braceysdad]

Why would anyone need a rescue vehicle?




Ohhh, I forgot everyone doesn't drive like the Colorado guys.

You sir, are an anus...

[slobin3d]

you can drive what ever you want on the course but 1 truck 1 driver"thumbsup"

there will be a buddy course that the goal is to help when they get stuck though"thumbsup"

[jason]

You sir, are a totally awesome guy...

What you really meant.

[Rudukai13]

No, I mean like I am asking if anyone would have any qualms with me bringing a recovery vehicle that was track-driven, to help anyone and everyone during the comps. Like building a scale version of this: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m-88a1-arv-dvic353.jpg

[slobin3d]

I would like to see that"thumbsup" Ben and I are currently going over the rules right now, So we'll have to get back to you"thumbsup":lol:

[BlueMonster]

If it's like last year, other drivers would earn points for winching or something to get someone through a course, there wasn't a dedicated rescue truck.

[Rudukai13]

I'd be more then happy to build the dedicated rescue vehicle...It wouldn't run in the comp, just give people a winch if they needed to get back on their wheels.

EDIT: Plus it would make one killer "follow the leader" run.

[STANG KILLA SS]

i thought you said half track? IMO it would be alot cooler.

[Rudukai13]

I can still make a halftrack, I just need to make sure that it will be allowed as a rescue rig.

[Jaynen]

Would be fun to see. I have a mental image of something with a boom literally lifting up a stuck rig.

[Rudukai13]

I donno about that but the tank kit that I would use to convert into a halftrack is 22" long so it would have no problems getting and 11" wheelbase crawler onto a flatbed "thumbsup"

[Jaynen]

That would be cool too :)

Has anyone made those "tread conversions" you can put on trucks and stuff for RC yet?

[CCFBERG]

Im thinking something like a HUGE R/C Helli standing by for those hard to recover spots. :lol::lol: What.......the rich guys in the Rubicon call em in when they need em.....Ive seen it."thumbsup" It cost like $5000 but they do it.;-)

[Rudukai13]

First: There is currently nobody selling the track conversions for RC vehicles unless the vehicle was designed to be used for tracks. If you look at the 1:1 vehicles that use the track conversions, they use tank-steering; independent variable control of the left and right side wheels. This is required because a vehicle that turned the front wheels in order to turn would slip out of the track. So it would be able to go in a straight line but would make it impossible for it to turn. For example, the Argo ATV with tracks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmOuj9kBfUY and without: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8TuCICqr7A

Second: A recovery copter would be pretty cool, but there are two problems:

-The size of rc heli that would be required to lift a five pound rig vertically would be enormouse, and seeing as we are probably going to be crawling in a forest area I highly doubt anyone with a copter big enough would risk flying near so many trees, which brings us to our next point:
-A heli of that size would cost a HELL of a lot of money, and no self respecting heli pilot would risk his thousands of dollars copter to help out some stupid rock crawler that could just be lifted by hand, no matter what kind of "scale" competition is going on-that is not my personal opinion, but an actualy quote from a rc heli pilot that I have talked with about this same kind of thing.

I think a tracked vehicle of some kind would be a very cool way to help out the other rigs. If I had a little time to work on it I could probably even come up with a crane to get the trucks onto the flatbed :twisted:

[CCFBERG]

"Second: A recovery copter would be pretty cool, but there are two problems:

-The size of rc heli that would be required to lift a five pound rig vertically would be enormouse, and seeing as we are probably going to be crawling in a forest area I highly doubt anyone with a copter big enough would risk flying near so many trees, which brings us to our next point:
-A heli of that size would cost a HELL of a lot of money, and no self respecting heli pilot would risk his thousands of dollars copter to help out some stupid rock crawler that could just be lifted by hand, no matter what kind of "scale" competition is going on-that is not my personal opinion, but an actualy quote from a rc heli pilot that I have talked with about this same kind of thing."







It was a JOKE"thumbsup"

[Rudukai13]

Oh...sorry, didn't mean to jump you there.

[CCFBERG]

Oh...sorry, didn't mean to jump you there.


No worries! It was something I figured I would joke about. I saw this happen like 13 years ago while at the Rubicon Wheelin. Some guy broke hard and There is a SkyCrane Heli for hire up there that will pull people out but its like $5000 -$8000 at least it was back then from what I understood anyway. But it was pretty cool to see. He just lifted that thing right out of there and it was gone. I just did a search in google to try and find the Company that does it. Couldnt find it. From what I understood back then it was a logging Co. that does it. But cant find it. Anyway Nuff said I was just playing around.

[Rudukai13]

It is an interesting idea. There are 1:1 helis that are obviously strong enough to airlift a broken rig, so I would assume you could beef up a rc heli to do the same thing. I'll leave that one up to someone else though-I'm not good with helis and I can't afford what it would take to make a heli that was strong enough to lift a rig.

[CCFBERG]

It is an interesting idea. There are 1:1 helis that are obviously strong enough to airlift a broken rig, so I would assume you could beef up a rc heli to do the same thing. I'll leave that one up to someone else though-I'm not good with helis and I can't afford what it would take to make a heli that was strong enough to lift a rig.

Me niether! Im learning slowly, but this would be cool:twisted::twisted:

I did find allot of forums talking about the skycrane recovery.

[karlos]

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m-88a1-arv-dvic353.jpg

I think a M88 Tracked Recovery Vehicle with working boom and winch would be very cool. Wish I were closer so I could attend...

[Rudukai13]

That's kinda what I was talking about, doing some sort of track setup with (maybe) a crane, but deffinitely some sort of flat bed to put a broken down rig on and take out of the trail.

[CCFBERG]

That's kinda what I was talking about, doing some sort of track setup with (maybe) a crane, but deffinitely some sort of flat bed to put a broken down rig on and take out of the trail.


And everyone in the back ground yelling.........MOVE THAT PIECE OF SH**!!!:twisted::twisted::lol:

[jgw]

:idea::-P:-(:!:;-):lol:8)"thumbsup":twisted::x:?::arrow::shock::)!

[Rudukai13]

Umm...Sure.

[Etype R]

I would assume that any rescue rig would need to fit in the same rules as the truck they are helping.

[Rudukai13]

I would assume that any rescue rig would need to fit in the same rules as the truck they are helping.

...Why? It's not like it would be competing against the other rigs.

[Thorsteenster]

I would suspect, ney, hope, that no other truck is to be on the course while it's being ran. Even if I DNF'd, I don't want a "rescue rig" on the course while I'm running, let alone picking me up.
Rescue rig rules! Pff. :roll:

[Rudukai13]

I just thought I could do something to try and help when you get your arrogant a$$ stuck in the mud and don't want a touch penalty. Jacka$$ "thumbsup"

[montana.matt]

I just thought I could do something to try and help when you get your arrogant a$$ stuck in the mud and don't want a touch penalty. Jacka$$ "thumbsup"

That's not a good way to win people over to your cause:roll:

[slobin3d]

if you get stuck it and you need a winch its a point, so if they winched of a rock or another truck it would be the same point penalty. there will be a lot of truck and not a lot of time and I really don't think that we will want to wait around for someone to get towed out during the comp, but anything goes after;-)