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FrankyRizzo
06-14-2008, 12:23 PM
Here is a few I made up for some of the Army.

braceysdad
06-14-2008, 12:25 PM
sexy...

Mic
06-14-2008, 12:43 PM
I have a question on wiring these things up. Is it positive from ESC to pole 1 ( c ) and positive from switch to motor on pole 2 ( N.C. ) and of course negative on pole 3 ( N. O.)?

dorji
06-15-2008, 12:37 AM
I have a question on wiring these things up. Is it positive from ESC to pole 1 ( c ) and positive from switch to motor on pole 2 ( N.C. ) and of course negative on pole 3 ( N. O.)?


If you look at the bottom set up in the picture, it would have the ESC on one side and the motor on the other.

Mic
06-15-2008, 02:14 AM
If you look at the bottom set up in the picture, it would have the ESC on one side and the motor on the other.
Yes but which side is which? One side of the switch goes positive to open ( I would want the ESC on this side of the switch) and the other goes positive to negitve when activated (this gives you the breaking effect and should be hooked to the motor side , if you hooked this side up the the ESC it would create a dead short) The switch did not come with directions as to which side of the switch does which.

Mic
06-15-2008, 02:23 AM
O.K. I dug my volt meter out. ESC goes on the roller side ( 2 or NC) left in the picture. The motor goes on the right/non roller side (1 or C)

upnover1
06-15-2008, 07:23 AM
Those are hawt"thumbsup"

FrankyRizzo
06-15-2008, 07:41 AM
If you look at the bottom set up in the picture, it would have the ESC on one side and the motor on the other.

Nope.

You would connect the ESC to the front motor. The one end of the leads piggy back on top of the front leads. The leads you see at the other end connect to the rear motor. When the servo is activated it cuts the positive to the rear and shorts the motors leads creating a dynamic brake. I can post some pics to show the finished install. That is why the leads are so long. Needs to go from motor to motor.

Mic
06-15-2008, 10:09 AM
I can post some pics to show the finished install. That is why the leads are so long. Needs to go from motor to motor.

I would like to see some pics"thumbsup" EDit Some good ones in your origanal post http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75089&highlight=dig

dorji
06-15-2008, 11:25 AM
I would like to see some pics"thumbsup"

X2 please"thumbsup"

swell searcher
06-15-2008, 04:07 PM
is that for front and rear dig? or just rear dig...

Chargerguy
06-15-2008, 04:27 PM
is that for front and rear dig? or just rear dig...
Just rear I'm pretty sure you would need 2 switches for dig disco

swell searcher
06-15-2008, 06:11 PM
Just rear I'm pretty sure you would need 2 switches for dig disco

yeah, i got the dig working on my 2.2 clod but never had a chance to do front and rear... i know kamikaze does both but didn't understand how he did it, if it was the same for the front as the rear or differently due to how the motors are wired...

FrankyRizzo
06-15-2008, 10:11 PM
is that for front and rear dig? or just rear dig...

Just rear.

As you can see the one side piggy backs off the motor and runs through the switch to the rear motor. Unless you can steer the rear wheels I cannot see the benefit of rear dig.

jason
06-15-2008, 10:20 PM
Unless you can steer the rear wheels I cannot see the benefit of rear dig.

95% of 1:1 comp rigs do not have rear steer.
95% of 1:1 comp rigs do have rear dig, and use it all the time.

Spend a few minutes watching a 1:1 comp and you'll see it used a lot.

With this berg setup it is really a beneficial tool to have in your box. You already have the servo mounted, you might as well add 1 extra switch. Even if you only use it once, it could be worth it.

dieselfuel
06-15-2008, 10:34 PM
95% of 1:1 comp rigs do not have rear steer.
95% of 1:1 comp rigs do have rear dig, and use it all the time.

Spend a few minutes watching a 1:1 comp and you'll see it used a lot.

With this berg setup it is really a beneficial tool to have in your box. You already have the servo mounted, you might as well add 1 extra switch. Even if you only use it once, it could be worth it.

he's right. being able to lock the front and burn the rear end around is very helpful. and yes 1:1 comp rigs do it all the time.

dorji
06-16-2008, 12:03 AM
With this set up, it is hooked up in series. To get front and rear dig, would you just wire the motors in parallel with a switch on each motor?

FrankyRizzo
06-16-2008, 06:07 AM
95% of 1:1 comp rigs do not have rear steer.
95% of 1:1 comp rigs do have rear dig, and use it all the time.

Spend a few minutes watching a 1:1 comp and you'll see it used a lot.

With this berg setup it is really a beneficial tool to have in your box. You already have the servo mounted, you might as well add 1 extra switch. Even if you only use it once, it could be worth it.

Good to know.

BoNuS LiNe
06-16-2008, 07:43 AM
at this weekends comp the rear dig helped atleast 4 times

it works really slick if your on a sidehill and need to reposition the rear end to point the truck more uphill , also backing up with rear dig is another benefit it's like front dig in reverse .

i still have to practice a bunch with it but im glad i have it

FrankyRizzo
06-16-2008, 10:10 AM
I love the fast and instant nature of it.

There were times sidehilling that I was able to click in and out of dig multiple times to make subtle changes and maintain course.

swell searcher
06-16-2008, 07:00 PM
95% of 1:1 comp rigs do not have rear steer.
95% of 1:1 comp rigs do have rear dig, and use it all the time.

Spend a few minutes watching a 1:1 comp and you'll see it used a lot.

With this berg setup it is really a beneficial tool to have in your box. You already have the servo mounted, you might as well add 1 extra switch. Even if you only use it once, it could be worth it.

how did you wire yours up jason? this is where i get confused...

pup
06-16-2008, 07:21 PM
95% of 1:1 comp rigs do not have rear steer.
95% of 1:1 comp rigs do have rear dig, and use it all the time.

Spend a few minutes watching a 1:1 comp and you'll see it used a lot.

With this berg setup it is really a beneficial tool to have in your box. You already have the servo mounted, you might as well add 1 extra switch. Even if you only use it once, it could be worth it.


I agree, Mine is wired with both and I use it ALOT more than I ever thought I would. It will pull your tires, both front and rear, out of holes that you would never imagine possible.'




I mean "No it is not worth it, DO NOT TRY IT":lol:

Robb
06-16-2008, 07:44 PM
DAMNIT!!!! I hate you guys!!!:flipoff:

In my running, I just have never really seen the need for rear dig, and this is true to this day. I have had my front DIG set up with two switches (rear drive, rear locked, and rear open), and I liked the difference between the two, especially on inclines in which rear locked sucks and is worthless ...................... but now I have to try out the rear DIG thing instead. Just for TX simplicity (cause I ain't so smart), I really only want to go with front/rear DIG, or two position front DIG. I definitely will try out the rear DIG thing and see if it outweighs the front dig/rear open thing. I predict open rear for inclining will win, but I will definitely have to do the comparison."thumbsup"

RXcrawler
06-16-2008, 09:15 PM
Please guys leave the freakin cat in the bag........Rear dig is worthless you don't need or want it. As a matter of fact front dig is garbage to. Please just run 1 ESC with no switches!!"thumbsup"

Stormin2u
06-17-2008, 05:15 AM
Another advantage for the Berg no question.