Sinastir Crawlers Prototype Berg....

[4stAir]

First off i wanna thank my sponsors:
TeamSinastir.com
Panther Tires
Now for the build:
first up is my tires and wheels:
Panther Cougars with NWT Hybrid foams and proline beadlocks (soon to be custom eritex)
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/001-14.jpg
i am running the hybrids up front with stock axial foam in the rears due to how soft these tires are. The tires were super easy to mount up compared to some others i have done and the compound is super sticky...
Axles: Berg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/001-12.jpg
Electronics:
55t's
Mamba Max
Dx3R radio
micro switch dig front and rear
hs-50 dig servo
Castle bec
HSC 5998tg servo for steering
Venom 3s lipo
Chassis: Sinastir prototype
here it is mocked up... i have to make a skid plate and side plates tomorrow before i can do some paint work..
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/004-9.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/007-4.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/005-4.jpg

[Tobit]

Oh man, this is going to be sweet. I'm so jealous.

[4stAir]

thanks man... it should be a fun rig. "thumbsup"

[Sinastir]

Looks good...."thumbsup" Now finish that damn thing. You have had it for what now, 18 hours?:shock:

[4stAir]

yeah i have been slacking... :lol:
i should have the skids finished today, i have to find my delrin supply i have no clue what i did with it.:roll:

[renoirbud]

hey

Are you painting/powder coating that frome before the Ultimate challenge?

[4stAir]

dont know...i havent decided what to do with the paint.
i was considering painting the panels like aluminum and rusting it some then clearing it.

i might just go with paint though...

[renoirbud]

hey

Was the big Tuber Buggy that ran in the club, when I lived there, up powder coated. (Driver was Bob???, TXT based wit Emaxx tranny), if it was and he is still arround, maybe he can hook you up.

I wanted to build another tuber for my berg, but I just do not have the time. I am also not inspired right now, I sat in my shop for couple hours last night and got nothing built.

But to keep this post technical, are those memory foams as wide as the picture makes them look? It looks like they are stock clod tire width?

[4stAir]

yeah bobs was painted.. aipohaku has it now, its in the txt section.

the foams are wide, but they are awesome in the cougars. they have a few different sizes to choose from when you order aswell.

get yourself a berg man you will love it. especially since you are already using the dual tranny.

[renoirbud]

Hey

I have run a berg in the Super Class the last two comps here. I do not have the wheels to narrow it yet. They should arrive any day.

I agree it is awsome and totally great for my driving style. I hope have a 2.2 Berg built by next Saturday and plan to go do some testing.

Worst case, I will just have to run it wide. And I still have to build one of those micro swith deals.

[4stAir]

if i can get my eritex wheels before battlegrounds you can use my prolines. they keep mine narrow enough but they tend to strip hexes when i hammer on it. :roll:

[rockbound]

looking good, just a little worried about the strength of the front part of the chassis, looks like id doesn't have much bracing. the point were the shock hoops meet the down pillars and flat plate looks like a weak point.

[tat2INDY]

that looks perfect for powder puff, but it looks like a half inch to short to be a legal tuber lol

[bustedcrawler]

looking good, just a little worried about the strength of the front part of the chassis, looks like id doesn't have much bracing. the point were the shock hoops meet the down pillars and flat plate looks like a weak point.


I wouldnt be so sure. You said the same thing about my tuber, and it is still arrow straight even with the beating I have laid to it. Albeit if anyone could tweak it, it will be Keith or myself.




that looks perfect for powder puff, but it looks like a half inch to short to be a legal tuber lol

You'd like it to be short haha.



Looking good Keith. I am jealous I can't start on my just yet...

[4stAir]

should have it done and ready to run tomorrow..."thumbsup"

[Tobit]

should have it done and ready to run tomorrow..."thumbsup"
it's 'bout time. We expect full resolution pics, video, bikini girls, and an open bar to kick off the unveiling and first run. "thumbsup" :lol:

[4stAir]

there will be beer involved that i can promise... i have yet to show up for a comp with out being hungover yet. it helps me concentrate..:lol:
i will post up some pics tomorrow.
i got the center skid done today just need to make the delrin side panels and clean up the wiring nightmare that is a berg. "thumbsup"

[renoirbud]

it's 'bout time. We expect full resolution pics, video, bikini girls, and an open bar to kick off the unveiling and first run. "thumbsup" :lol:

hey Keith, less BLA BLA BLA, more Bikini Girls.

[tat2INDY]

hey Keith, less BLA BLA BLA, more Bikini Girls.

x 2

[4stAir]

sorry guys but i broke up with the crazy asian model chick awhile ago...:roll:
the new g/f is less model more punk rock and tattoos..."thumbsup"

TECH: hey has anyone mounted the servo on the short side of the axles yet? i was thinking that would give me enough room to put the lipo on the front axle and more room to work with on the chassis skid?

[renoirbud]

sorry guys but i broke up with the crazy asian model chick awhile ago...:roll:
the new g/f is less model more punk rock and tattoos..."thumbsup"


Punk rock and Tattoos work in a Bikini, LOL.

I will just shut up now before I get branded disrespectfull (and Keith kicks me in the privates to welcome me to the Ultimate challenge, LOL)

[tat2INDY]

so come on down and get tattooed already

[4stAir]

I will just shut up now before I get branded disrespectfull (and Keith kicks me in the privates to welcome me to the Ultimate challenge, LOL)
dont worry she is cool with the harrassment besides i dont have to defend her, she scares me.... :lol: i am trying to get her to come along to ultimate challenge, she is down for nats for sure though. "thumbsup"

[renoirbud]

Are you hooking her up with a crawler? So she run the powder puff class? Maybe she can even run the Berg?

If she would like to run the class and needs a crawler, I can bring an extra one. Just let me know.

[4stAir]

so come on down and get tattooed already
dude i am super broke... beleive me i am planning on it. i just need cash. she has a huge back piece going that i am super jealous of.

[rockbound]

dude i am super broke... beleive me i am planning on it. i just need cash. she has a huge back piece going that i am super jealous of.

i'm in for the road trip and group buy!! "thumbsup"

[4stAir]

Are you hooking her up with a crawler? So she run the powder puff class? Maybe she can even run the Berg?

If she would like to run the class and needs a crawler, I can bring an extra one. Just let me know.
i will have a rig for her.. probably let her run the berg if she goes. she is working part time on sundays right now since i am poor so she hasnt run at a comp yet.

i'm in for the road trip and group buy!! "thumbsup"
i am planning on doing that probably, my buddy and his wife wanna go down between x-mas and new years for sure.

[renoirbud]

Hey

Well I hope she can make it, my wife is staying home, but its a bit longer drive for me.

[tat2INDY]

keith whenyou headen out to ohio, we are leaving fri morning,taking pa turnpike out most of the way

[4stAir]

same kinda plan we have going... ;-) problem is the jeep show is saturday and sunday so we have to help load up the rocks from the shop to the trailer on friday morning. we are then going out to ohio for the comp and leaving after the comp to come home i believe for sunday.

[4stAir]

well here it is fellas: as done as i can get it for this weekends comp.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/001-16.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/003-8.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/004-10.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/002-13.jpg

waiting on the panels to dry as we speak

[redbaron]

problem is the jeep show is saturday and sunday

The All Breeds show??

[4stAir]

yup

[Mic]

TECH: hey has anyone mounted the servo on the short side of the axles yet? i was thinking that would give me enough room to put the lipo on the front axle and more room to work with on the chassis skid?


I made a plate and bracket to get the battery on the front axle.

70788

70789

70790

[4stAir]

thanks for the idea mic but i am gonna guess you are running a body... being a tuber i would like to keep the battery alittle more out of harms way.
i might run that setup once i get my tvp chassis..."thumbsup"

[Mic]

Yes it is tucked under a grappler body.

[Racer4Life]

Good luck this weekend with it.;-)

[4stAir]

thanks... i hope have it all painted up and repectable looking before the battlegrounds event.;-)

[tat2INDY]

looks good keith ,i got a set of bergs and i need one of those to put them on, so when you huck a truck next weekend try not to bend it,

[4stAir]

well if you can hold off for a minute to let me test this bad boy they will be production real soon..."thumbsup"

i am hoping to see how well it works this weekend and have my setup more dialed for battlegrounds. if all goes well they will be production within a month or so.;-)

[tsaun987]

Looks like a performer! Should be pretty easy to right itself after a roll over too. Nice work guys.

[Sinastir]

Looks like a performer! Should be pretty easy to right itself after a roll over too. Nice work guys.

Well thank you. I tested it today and seem to work very well. Good luck Keith on your comp this weekend.

[4stAir]

thanks john i might need it...
i will make sure to get a few pics of it in actions. "thumbsup"

[Sinastir]

Please paint that thing....Just kidding... Also I added a preorder post in the vendor section.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127078

[4stAir]

as soon as i get my side panels i will be painting it... i wanna run it before i start painting links and such..."thumbsup"

[4stAir]

well i got a 3rd.. i need to tune the setup some.
i will see if i can find any pics on of the action
edit: well i just started tearing it down to paint it for battlegrounds this weekend and it turns out i beat it harder than i though..
i destroyed 2 more proline wheels, the hexes are round now, and i bent a few shock mounting bolts and other random bolts. i also pulled a bead on one of my cougars.
the chassis is still straight and intact so its definitly a strong chassis.

[4stAir]

here it is after the paint...
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/014.jpg

[tat2INDY]

did you clock the front axle ? it looks stock, how bad was that motor hanging up

[4stAir]

the front axle is stock... i havent hit it enough to care..."thumbsup"

[Tobit]

Love the look except for the green links. They need to be red, black or chrome but who the feck cares in the end.. it's all about how it performs so you get a podium finish.

[4stAir]

yeah its still a little ugly as far as the colors go...:shock:

[4stAir]

well i got my lockouts today...."thumbsup"
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/69498918.jpg
thanks mt....

[4stAir]

here is some action shots from The Battlegrounds on our web site "thumbsup"
http://www.teamsinastir.com/x7922infopage.html

[rockbound]

here is some action shots from The Battlegrounds on our web site "thumbsup"
http://www.teamsinastir.com/x7922infopage.html

:wink:

your welcome "thumbsup"

[redbaron]

How did you like the no weight in the tires for course one? I forgot to ask after the run.

[4stAir]

:wink:

your welcome "thumbsup"
thanks cj..."thumbsup"

How did you like the no weight in the tires for course one? I forgot to ask after the run.
the no weight thing was not my speed... it wasnt too bad on course one but it killed me on course 2... i will stick with my heavy wheels. infact i am ordering a set of wheels this week so we have no more proline related problems...

[4stAir]

well i solved my proline problems...
i got some of the nicest wheels i have ever seen today...
eritex rules. these are adjustable narrows. if you have a berg go order a set of these bad boys...
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/008-4.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/010.jpg

[redbaron]

They look nice. Let us know how wide it makes the track width when you get them mounted!!

[binaryterror]

Can the offset be changed without breaking the bead ring?

Looks like the rear rings could, but those fronts couldn't...?

[4stAir]

binary: i dont think you can...

red : i will take measurements and check that out tonight. my comp rig is at the g/f's house so i am gonna go get it and get this painted and put together tonight.

[4stAir]

i got them painted... i still need to modify a set of hexes for them so i can mount them.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/41f4ca88.jpg

[4stAir]

here they are mounted...
10.25 from outside edge of tire on the width...
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/6749e163.jpg

[redbaron]

They look pretty good man! Thanks for the measurement on the width.

I may have to look into a set of these.

[4stAir]

i am gonna try to get my new links made up tonight and start on my new steering setup.... i am not getting anywhere near the steering i could be out of this truck.

[4stAir]

well here is my steering setup to allow full throw and clearance...
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/001-18.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/002-15.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/tfp_ron_mexico/003-10.jpg

[Hildy]

I had a pleasure watching your Berg axles run at the comp yesterday. I definately learned a few things from you guys about competing and am looking forward to the next one. Only Im gonna go for the points series this time.:twisted:

Good luck on your build. I was certainly impressed by your current setup.