Modifications to my Cliff Climber.

[salgon]

First of all, I want to present myself my is Salvador Gonzalez from Reynosa, Tamaulipas, Mexico in the border of Mexico an USA. I'm a fanatic of the 4X4 and I have been in some competences of this sport in Mexico. And I like a lot the rock crawling and RC cars and when I saw the Cliff Climber I went to look arround the hobby Stores in McAllen, TX to find this truck until I got mine.
I started to modified the truck with Traxxas Tmaxx turnbuckles instead of the plastic suspension arms.
Then I ordered the steering aluminium link but I don't know wich rod ends to use, because I bought the Traxxas rod ends for the revo and the inner diameter is bigger than the one in those aluminium links.
Hope you could help me.

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pCjuhKebollAYizv18xLV8p316Le7UqDIBbIt1cULn3O7zgN TVjHHe5AkE5kBblB9

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pTuq_fuiLiN8d1Zp1ck8eyvFsa5W3o3HD6QDaBmGE-Et4yWUGMeJNDYZKdoQntSL2

I used a Futaba HT servo and Panther Cougar Tires with memory foam and eight shooter by Pro-Line.

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pTerVaImWqubB0FfJGRwBzfzEH6vXmnMpZfGk_h9WOdZ8_Vy Ugt6Y_L_iMLerViCE


Here. you can see the difference between the stock tires and the Panther.

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pVPuEvTJGUefOVM5nGPFJsq_BmIx0AuC7ougHBAD8RWgWzg5 HUC4l61w_4SBU4EdK

[dezfan]

Try using Traxxas rod ends for the T-Maxx.

Part #2742X

[salgon]

Thanks man, I'll give them a try.

[Norcal_GIT_r]

That looks sweet!!!
What links are you using in the photos?
Did those wheels bolt right up to the stock hexs?

[salgon]

Thanks for your comments.
The links that I'm using are the 2.5 T-maxx rear turnbuckles part #5139 they are 118mm.
And the wheels are the Pro-Line 2.2" Eight Shooter Bead-Loc Chrome Black Wheels. The tire goes between the wheel and the aluminium ring.

[JavelinSST390]

That's not gonna flex much without any shocks.... :lol::roll:

[salgon]

You're right, it looks ugly or funny with 1 tire of each one, but that picture was just for comparisson reasons.
About the shocks, you're right. I used the stock suspension arm instead the stock shocks just to see the size of shock that I'll need. The stock ones are 2.9 inches and the ones I need, has to be of 4 inches or more. Because I used those arms (Tmaxx turnbuckles) the stock shocks were too short, and I'm looking for the ones I can fit. I've saw some larger ones, but I have not decided yet.
I'll post some more photos on the weekend to see the progress.

[salgon]

Hi there, here are some new pics of the mods I've been doing to my Cliff Climber.
I installed the rear shocks and changed the rear steering links with the aluminium version from duratrax and traxxas rod ends (Thanks to Dezfan).

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pIe4c6UWGui6ffwLmcB8RzcTpxn1IqUHG1Iap-uHxF4liQCOoCu-k-JuqMXjHnMC-

The shocks are from Venom.

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1p_hU8N8luqet0JhJKJUsYOvDN0-IQF0SO3BT2Pv-yT8h2VtWeCtJtMUuhPFtdiEHQ

In this pic you can see the difference between the front and rear links.
The ines in front are from Tmaxx 2.5 (4mm) and the ones in the rear are from a Tmaxx 3.3 (5mm).
http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1perwrutYxMoCkkSV7a6QUWpWlfXMztQXLKUPgZt7KteaKXaX VtNopwf-98RDy89aq

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pTODczC5dPw2fQnOsHVcJRvN9vzXJfCl6deJDxcpXVKhqQKe qa8NhZ_7qUC5QRKnh

Here is a close shot of the rear section.
http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pQygewLOXGd9NkmSSJRFVIHAfRcdLJQhykKteB_MF3lMF9r3 OJWGTPKE6vhybfFng

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pOKOwWKTakl4DO3L8HLWAf1vZRqn0qEnkiczVPM7G97egQy3 icoVmTPcd04-TNStI

And some shots from the flex.
http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1ptrJcy580NhObBrYTL_YjieaJI7vigh30S6cvRA50oyklU12 5SeALKL1N1yAHslTR

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pc95fUb5SRsCuWsEP5nJDIv1a9HBmw8uUWU3J03FgIqCAzYx V7xpqOspFuwIPcv1e

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1p5ZhRTmuLsplbdSKqsCAht3na5IxidvkhuwyrjjSdS2Oy5lp cfHsknERV3Q5oKMzV

[JavelinSST390]

Nice setup, but you'll want to limit the flex some. Otherwise with the front shocks installed you're gonna have like 90 degrees of flex... The height of a 12oz. beer-can is just about perfect for most areas. "thumbsup"

[Norcal_GIT_r]

That looks great!!
I ordered all the links for mine.

Did you have to change the hexs to use the 2.2 wheels?

[salgon]

Nope, you don't have to change anything to feet those wheels. The hex on the CC are 12mm. I just put the proline eight shooter and hammer tires.

[twisted]

whats the wheel base on that ?

[salgon]

12 inches from center to center of the wheels.

[salgon]

Nice setup, but you'll want to limit the flex some. Otherwise with the front shocks installed you're gonna have like 90 degrees of flex... The height of a 12oz. beer-can is just about perfect for most areas. "thumbsup"

You're right, I'm waiting for the big bore shock mounting kit to modify the upper position of the shock, I think this will limit the travel of the shock. And need to trim the body.

[salgon]

I'm just waiting for the metal gears to install them including the bearing set in the transmission.
I just installed the ones that goes on the aluminium knuckle arms.

[salgon]

Some parts that I ordered from TowerHobbies:
e clips from various sizes, metal gears, bearing set, retaining clips, aluminium wheel hex.

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pnsYra2ODoeoX78KsU1tiIN4cIYoJslw0rbpSklwAiYryRzp mLSOMpGm6gwbQIFxg

Metal Gears
http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1p3cvGlBYP7gl7fVetSeD0rajakdmJhLXQkdj3yek4mU3-hh1XXZTCQJ_vtJ_CS4kS

Metal Gears, bearing set and stainless steel screw kit.
http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pZED9ovPekl35JZX8MGYczN_QfVcrnRnKOhfx48sBX1Tmnpf xPQSKybT8zD-xQsEl

Stainless steel from RCscrewz
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This photo with the stainless steel screwz intalled.
http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pwk7kuDkqeFc0bq6xDYOg-zXQ4k1I9rNVMb7Bj6zpuKh-jJlnr6Ooh9Ba6cpblpC4

[JKJim]

Looking good! I just got mine last weekend but have not had a chance to try it out yet. Only thing I did was replace the body with the RJ Speed 70's Outlaw Body (Jeep CJ-5).

[Lestats Ghost]

are you running a 3 channel radio? how did you get it not to crab with the rear servo like that? I tried to change mine like that and all it did was crab crawl.

[randy1]

man look good i think i mite try the cc

[salgon]

are you running a 3 channel radio? how did you get it not to crab with the rear servo like that? I tried to change mine like that and all it did was crab crawl.

I'm using the stock radio system (2 channel). And for the rear steering I used a servo reverser instead of the stock Y arness. It is positioned between the ESC and radio receiver. The servo reverser is from Expert Electronics EXRA325.

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1poY0tVjVcFKNAMGx_aTbqDi58mDxl1UAqqTyx92ey5Jaw5ai q9VmC6af46oBr1LA8

[gigercreeper]

are you going to upgrade the motor with those 2.2's? if so what?

[salgon]

are you going to upgrade the motor with those 2.2's? if so what?


Right now I'm not going to upgrade the motors, because I don't want to change de esc. One thing takes to the other.

[AJrc]

very nice. i have my revo 2.5 rods in the back, and t-maxx 3.3 shocks in the back also. I need to put more rods in the front, and im thinking of some aluminum shocks as well. maybe like the losi highroller shocks. those look nice. oh and i need some tires. i could post some pics if you want

[randy1]

please do we like pic give us all ideals

[AJrc]

okay,
well here my cliff climber,
like i said revo 2.5 suspension links, t-maxx 3.3 stock shocks
looking to buy high roller alum. shocks
dont know where to go for tires and rims though (beadlock expensive)

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n174/aj_shiznit/MVC-029L.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n174/aj_shiznit/MVC-028L.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n174/aj_shiznit/LOSB0103-gal17.jpg

[randy1]

yup think u need shorter shocks

[AJrc]

are the high roller's shorter than the t-maxx shocks??

[randy1]

dont no but u need way shorter shocks

[randy1]

http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq296/justdew_me/Picture012.jpg
here is mine

[AJrc]

it works fine when i crawl??
ill go check the specs on losi right now.

[randy1]

with it way up in the air it will get to heavey

[AJrc]

thats true. i might switch back to my old ones then,
what about salgons shocks? he said he got them from venom

[randy1]

i dont no but u dont want to go with anything longer than 1 in longer on that stock chasis . look at what jdawg did with his he has longer shocks on his

[AJrc]

you know where you screw the top of the shock on? i moved that down more to make it longer than less taller

[randy1]

You Want Around 3 In To The Belly Of The Chasis . That Is About The Rite Highth

[AJrc]

as soon as i put my other sus. links in i will measure. i really want to get new tires though and rims

[gigercreeper]

i jst got some hammers and hpi spike rims all 4 for around 50 bucks ultimate hobbies is having a 20% off scale on tires. has ny ran these with out the springs on the stock shocks? i think it will settle easier that way

[AJrc]

nice deal. are you talking about me on the shocks?

[gigercreeper]

ya that way with those long tmaxx shox it wouldnt sit so high in the front. does it go end over end when up a steep incline pretty easily?

[AJrc]

its a little bit of a challenge

[randy1]

hey ajrc you should prob. start your own tread here for we have kinda hijacked this one

[salgon]

hey ajrc you should prob. start your own tread here for we have kinda hijacked this one

Don't worry about it.
Tomorrow I'll post some more pics of the mods and I hope final mods to the suspension to my Cliff Climber. And some pics in action. I finally got pleased with the suspension, after many mods, many try outs."thumbsup"

[thunderwagn]

Holy Crap! Pharr, Texas? I used to live in McAllen. Went to elementary school in Sherryland. Course that was over 30 yrs ago lol.