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thevulgarcowboy
09-26-2008, 08:21 PM
Well I’m starting a new right up on how to mod the ring and pion gears for an e savage to put in a wheely king. Go sick of stripping the old stock one. So will have it up in a few days. If you have any question in the mean time hit me up.

Thanks’ thevulgarcowboy

SnoopMaxx
09-27-2008, 12:48 PM
I´m watching


Arent they just a drop in replacement ?

chris4207
09-27-2008, 03:04 PM
I'd like to see how they fit as well.

They do look like they are drop in dont they, I had to go look at them again. Hpi has the Hardend ones for the Nitro RS4 mt listed as option parts. I wonder how many different sets are drop in.

thevulgarcowboy
09-27-2008, 04:56 PM
The ring gear bolts right in. but the pion gear you need to shave a little of where the e clip goes in the top. Or do what I’m doing, I’m beveling the inner face if the gear. 1st less material removed and not a lot of heat buildup in the part to change the temper of the steal



ps will have pics up in a few days

HndsWthtShdws
09-27-2008, 07:31 PM
So.......drop in ring gear, clamp pinion in drill press, drill down a little with a large drill bit to bevel, install pinion, the end?

I should do a writeup of how I installed Pede shafts and yokes using stock parts without compromising strength.....

grizz
09-27-2008, 07:43 PM
So.......drop in ring gear, clamp pinion in drill press, drill down a little with a large drill bit to bevel, install pinion, the end?

I should do a writeup of how I installed Pede shafts and yokes using stock parts without compromising strength.....


that would be nice:ror::ror::ror:

SnoopMaxx
09-28-2008, 07:05 AM
I have had these nitro rs4 diff´s for little over a week now and I havent had time to bolt them in yet
they are the 36T/14T gears so they will lower the gear ratio = more speed :lol:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z198/SnoopMaxx/HPIM2279.jpg

Maggster
09-29-2008, 09:21 AM
I'd like to read this too. That is the one area where I am having trouble with my WK.

HndsWthtShdws
09-29-2008, 02:05 PM
Are you guys still using those stock axle screws? That might be why your stripping diffs. Get rid of the four screws around the pumpkin and replace them with four 3mmx35 SHCS and four nylocks.

Maggster
09-29-2008, 05:19 PM
I did replace mine with threaded rod. I don't know if its a bad driver, or the fact that I am still using the big ole mud thrashers, but I still get an occassional diff click. I shimmed them pretty tight, but it still clicks once in a while.

coolkidjf7
09-30-2008, 12:24 PM
Gah, the axles rounded mine out, the back ones are clicking whenever I gas it. Hurry up with this writeup bro"thumbsup"

thevulgarcowboy
10-03-2008, 11:59 AM
Gah, the axles rounded mine out, the back ones are clicking whenever I gas it. Hurry up with this writeup bro"thumbsup"
will have up by monday or tuesday. had a death in the family

coolkidjf7
10-03-2008, 12:03 PM
Sorry to hear that, take your time.

execelon
11-04-2008, 02:55 PM
any updates i really need to upgrade my diffs

thevulgarcowboy
11-04-2008, 03:21 PM
any updates i really need to upgrade my diffs
Will have up in a day or to, jest go back in town. when your dad dies thare a lot i mean a lot of lose end. but sorry for the long time befor postings

karlos
11-20-2008, 04:50 PM
UPDATES? Mine has the death click as well. Looking for a good remedy.

boostamante
11-20-2008, 05:09 PM
UPDATES? Mine has the death click as well. Looking for a good remedy.


i too would like to see this written up. Hurry up already :P

In for some updates."thumbsup"

rottenbelly
11-20-2008, 05:42 PM
Shim,shim ,shim them and they wont click. i have aluminum tranny gears, strc rear lock outs ,aluminum hexs, and with the pinions shimmed the only thing i have problems with is breaking front axles.

execelon
11-20-2008, 06:15 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-Final-Gear-Set-P1x38T-P1x13T-86336-for-MT2-18SS_W0QQitemZ300275039080QQihZ020QQcategoryZ44028 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

this is what i went with and i couldn't be happier.. no more clicky clicky for me!

thevulgarcowboy
12-16-2008, 06:18 PM
side by side new to old. new on left, old on the right

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/thevulgarcowboy420/pic7.jpg

clamp in to vice or vicsrips.( NOT on the teeth)
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/thevulgarcowboy420/pic2.jpg

dremil bit I used

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/thevulgarcowboy420/pic3.jpg


grind center to u gind down to flat spot ware E clip goes.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/thevulgarcowboy420/pic4.jpg

befor grind.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/thevulgarcowboy420/1002082129.jpg

after grind(1 on the left/ a nice dish shape)

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/thevulgarcowboy420/pic8.jpg

a quick tip using the drive shaft as a handle makes putting the E clp in ezer

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/thevulgarcowboy420/pic62.jpg

sorry for the bad pic. thare on my cell phone. my lil 1 thought my camera needed a bath. so did this mod on my brothers. the ring gear bolts in the stock place with no mods and rest of the axle goes back together jest like stock.

ps you might have to reshim the hole set up.,

evileddy420
12-17-2008, 11:41 AM
So, other than the grinding on the pinion, did you need to do anything to the ring gear and diff housing to make them fit? I have some e savage diffs lying around and also some WK axle housings that need gears. Thanks for the info. Sorry about your loss.

ED

thevulgarcowboy
12-17-2008, 02:05 PM
So, other than the grinding on the pinion, did you need to do anything to the ring gear and diff housing to make them fit? I have some e savage diffs lying around and also some WK axle housings that need gears. Thanks for the info. Sorry about your loss.

ED ring gear bolts right in. jest need to re shim your ring and pion gears."thumbsup"
ps will and to end of right up

floogldood
12-18-2008, 05:34 AM
Are they both the same teeth as stock?

thevulgarcowboy
12-18-2008, 12:02 PM
Are they both the same teeth as stock?
what do u mean????

resetpunk
12-18-2008, 05:05 PM
what do u mean????


sounds to me as if hes asking..does the save one have the same amount of teeth as the stock wk one

thevulgarcowboy
12-18-2008, 06:44 PM
sounds to me as if hes asking..does the save one have the same amount of teeth as the stock wk one
same teeth number 38 ring 13 pion

floogldood
12-22-2008, 08:24 AM
Yes, thanks.

thevulgarcowboy
12-23-2008, 05:45 AM
Yes, thanks. your welcome. if u need eny more help pm and let me no if this realy helps

SnoopMaxx
12-23-2008, 07:45 AM
Great little write up "thumbsup"

I haven´t had time to rebuild my diff´s yet :-(

thevulgarcowboy
12-30-2008, 05:58 AM
Great little write up "thumbsup"

I haven´t had time to rebuild my diff´s yet :-(
thanks, have fun with it when you do rebuild your diffs.:badger:

SnoopMaxx
12-31-2008, 02:35 PM
thanks, have fun with it when you do rebuild your diffs.:badger:

Thank´s and happy New Year ´09

thevulgarcowboy
01-02-2009, 10:10 AM
Thank´s and happy New Year ´09
your welcome and happy new year

Timmahh
03-10-2009, 11:47 PM
anyone aware of a complete diff with a smaller ratio that will drop right in(wiht shims ofcourse) that is a lower ratio? i would like a decent ratio for good wheel speed.

username
03-21-2009, 07:45 AM
this must be what i need to do! I am new to the wheely king scene, so now i know why mine clicks. does it usually happen i the rear first? or is it only clicking in the rear cuz it was 2wd first and those gears were more used?

has anybody found a drop in solution that works without grinding?

chris_dishmon
04-15-2009, 08:09 PM
anyone aware of a complete diff with a smaller ratio that will drop right in(wiht shims ofcourse) that is a lower ratio? i would like a decent ratio for good wheel speed.

you can get those rs4 gears in different ratios. check ebay.

viper6171
06-26-2009, 08:20 PM
good to know about the gears i am building my wk crawler and the diff gears are cracked in several places in both axles so i have to rebuild them