AX10 BTA with 4 link and Battery mount

[jetboat]

Move your steering behind the axle for improved approach angles.

No more hanging up on steering linkages.

Works with Stock Plastic or aftermarket aluminum (tested with CKRC and Rc4wd knuckles)

Simple to install with no modifications to your knuckles needed (Alhough trimming off the tips will greatly improve your steering)

$20 shipped in the US
Club orders of 10 sets or more receive a $2 discount plus free shipping.

Kit includes the Tie rod, servo mounts and the spacers needed. I have left out items that you should already have like screw and nuts. (why pay for what you dont need)


Custom milling $5 extra (bottom picture is custom version)
rear 4-link mount $10 extra
(please send PM if requesting either)

Paypal: jshirley78@hotmail.com

[MrNate]

Is there enough clearance on the steering link with the MIP drives installed?

[928darwin]

Just sent payment.

[jetboat]

Is there enough clearance on the steering link with the MIP drives installed?


I havent tested them with mip's but, there shouldnt be any clearance issues. You should be able to trim the end of your knuckle arm and increase your steering withough worring about cutting into your axle as can happen with stock axles if you cut the knuckle and dont adjust your epa's

[Hawk Mortimer]

Just ordered 2.

Thanks,
Hawk

[MrNate]

I havent tested them with mip's but, there shouldnt be any clearance issues. You should be able to trim the end of your knuckle arm and increase your steering withough worring about cutting into your axle as can happen with stock axles if you cut the knuckle and dont adjust your epa's

Sounds good to me. Just sent payment for 1 set.

[bcrofts]

looks good pm sent

[Starboard M]

I realized one other thing. What do you use as a drag link? The stock one, or do you have to make one.

[jetboat]

Best solution for the drag link is to use 2 dubro 4-40 rod ends connected by a piece of 4-40 threaded rod. Its about the simplest and most reliable way to make one. Although 1 tester did use the axial short drag link.


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/jshirley78/IMG_0134.jpg

Something to note, the servo mount is designed to be used as a BTA mount or as a front mounted servo. Meaning that if you are worried about the BTA for some reason, you can always turn the servo around and still use the plate.

[axman2010]

can I buy just the plate I already bought the ckrc one but want a 4 link. I guess I should first ask if the plate will work with the ckrc and I already cut my knuckles

[jetboat]

I can sell the plate itself for $12 shipped but, although I see no reason it wont work it has not been tested with the CKRC parts. I will not warrenty it to work with anyone elses parts. Send a PM if you buy just the plate and include a note on your paypal.

[BigSki]

very nice product, and congrats for being the first to the market with it!

can you give the approximate size of the LiPo pack? I'm still using 2/3A 4 cell saddle packs. I need to know how much room I'd have to work with to see if the batt cell packs could be rearranged to work on your mounting plate.

[jetboat]

the lipo in the photo is 2.5" L x 1.5"w

[jetboat]

ALL kits order till right now will ship on Monday. Any kits ordered from this point will not ship until Wed/Thurs.

I only have 5 kits left in stock, I have already spoken to my suppliers and there will be a $2 per kit price increase after these kits are sold. I appologize for the price increase. It is due to the continuing rise in metal prices. The price of spacers has doubled and the price per piece has went up by $1 per part ($2 per kit). I am absorbing some of the price increase.

[dezfan]

Cool, how about one for the TLT axles?

[jetboat]

I might start looking at the tlts but, at current I dont see many at events.

I am working on a WK kit but its probably a month out. I had the most motivation on the ax10 as its the axle I have been running. That also made testing and r&d allot easier.

[Starboard M]

I will be ordering mine as soon as paypal clears. Hopefully on Monday. "thumbsup"

[BDM34]

I just sent a payment.

[jetboat]

only 2 remain before the price increase.

Also, any ordered on/before 10/22 will ship 10/23 any ordered between 10/23 and 10/26 will not ship until 10/28. I will be out of town those dates and though I will be checking pm's, I will not be able to mail any parts.

[hardhead]

pm sent
if theres one left i want it

[jetboat]

as of right now there is 1 left at $18. However, I cant check paypal until 5:30pm cst (work blocks it). Therefore, any kits purchased until, that time I will honor the $18 SHIPPED price. THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE AT $18!!! After I check paypal and know for sure that the last $18 kit has sold, the price will be $20 shipped per kit.

[montana.matt]

as of right now there is 1 left at $18. However, I cant check paypal until 5:30pm cst (work blocks it). Therefore, any kits purchased until, that time I will honor the $18 SHIPPED price. THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE AT $18!!! After I check paypal and know for sure that the last $18 kit has sold, the price will be $20 shipped per kit.
PM sent"thumbsup"

[jetboat]

ALL orders (excluding 1 special order) have been shipped. You should be receiving them soon "thumbsup" Enjoy!!!

[jetboat]

Looks like several people took advantage of my extending the lower price...

The price is now $20 per kit Shipped in the US. Standard postage is included in the cost "thumbsup"

paypal is jshirley78@hotmail.com in case you missed it in the ad.

[jetboat]

If you are running aluminum knuckles such as CKRC's you will need to flip the right side to the let and left to the right. This is actually even recommended for plastic knuckles also.

[sbchero]

do you have a pic of the rear 4 link mount?

thanks.

[jetboat]

Temp SOLD OUT! I will be getting more in stock but there is a 2-3 week lead time at this point because my cutter is on Vacation. Back orders will be excepted but please be patient. All orders placed before now and the giveaway will ship this week.

I can process orders for the rear 4-link brackets only (2-3 day lead time)

[MrNate]

Just got mine yesterday and everything but the servo is set up on the axle. Great solution, I think it's going to work well. Thanks!

[Nate08]

I've got 3 wheely king's sitting around that would love to get something like this when you have the wk version out.

[Hurley0706]

If you are running aluminum knuckles such as CKRC's you will need to flip the right side to the let and left to the right. This is actually even recommended for plastic knuckles also.

Since when are the knuckles side specific on the AX-10?

Axial Parts Tree AX8004 is two of the same parts, the RC4WD knuckles I use are the same side to side. The only knuckles I have that are side specific are my High Steer Knuckles and TLT knuckles.

[bigflex]

Since when are the knuckles side specific on the AX-10?

Axial Parts Tree AX8004 is two of the same parts, the RC4WD knuckles I use are the same side to side. The only knuckles I have that are side specific are my High Steer Knuckles and TLT knuckles.

I think he ment to say C's not knuckles, otherwise it just doesn't make sence.

[jetboat]

I did mean to say C. I appologize for the confusion.

As for the WK version, its going to be a little while, the engineering on it is a little more complicated to get perfect.

[Stormin2u]

PayPal sent thanks Jeff. "thumbsup"

[miller]

Hey Jeff I ordered these a while ago, wondering if they got sent out? My paypal was joezoil"at"gmail.com I think I sent a pm when I bought them too. Just checked and that was October 23rd. If you need any more details let me know I'm sure it just fell between the cracks by accident.

[jetboat]

Miller... Ill send you a pm, its been in the mail but to Canada can be slow.

[miller]

Thanks mang, looking forward to it "thumbsup"

[d-fly]

Can you post pics of the back of the axles from the top. I want to see how the top links hook up to you servo plate and get the general look of it. Thanks alot

[jetboat]

I took these in a hurry so I appologize for the quality

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/jshirley78/IMG_2074.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/jshirley78/IMG_2075.jpg

[ajcloud]

will this set up work on the tcs xtrail chassis. the only difference is the shocks are standing vertically, just wanted to make sure there would be clearance, thanks

[jetboat]

will this set up work on the tcs xtrail chassis. the only difference is the shocks are standing vertically, just wanted to make sure there would be clearance, thanks

Depends on what shocks you are running. A shock with either internal springs or droop shocks SHOULD fit. I used my 1.9 scaler in the dev of this kit, and it used rc4wd 100mm scale shocks mounted shaft side down in a verticle position. I cannot guarentee that it will work however. This is because I have not used an xtrail myself nor did any of my testers.

[maxxjedi]

do you have more in stock yet? Are they water jet or laser cut? Do you make a plate to have the 4 link on the back also? Sorry if I missed that in the thread.

[rusty_rail]

i will like a set also if there is any more please pm me if u can

[jetboat]

They arent instock yet, the bare parts were shipped to me Wednesday and should have already been here. Hopefully I will have them Tomorrow and be shipping by the weekend.

All the parts are waterjet cut. It gives allot cleaner cut than laser does.

I am accepting orders while they are backordered, they will be filled on a first come first serve basis.

Paypal: jshirley78@hotmail.com

Feel free to PM me when you order

[Siggy]

"thumbsup"Paypal sent for Customized AX10 BTA
Thanks Buddy

[rusty_rail]

payment sent, looking forward to run this on my comp rig.

[TattooKenny]

I still can't get mine to not rub on the axle? I had the guys in Atl look it over as well.....looks like the only fix is to trim the BTA link in the middle to get it to not rub? And with HR knuckles on mine I've lost a decent amout of steering throw? I'll get JIA to shoot some picts tomorrow and show you what I mean.....

[jetboat]

I still can't get mine to not rub on the axle? I had the guys in Atl look it over as well.....looks like the only fix is to trim the BTA link in the middle to get it to not rub? And with HR knuckles on mine I've lost a decent amout of steering throw? I'll get JIA to shoot some picts tomorrow and show you what I mean.....


Been asking for pics for a while in pm's... yours is the only one with a problem that I havent been able to solve... all I can think is that you have something wierd with yours

[miller]

Yah I had the same problem with mine. First I thought it was because I had rcp knuckles and c's so I put the stockers in. When the stockers went in the tierod would hit the upper link mount with the center part. My toe wasn't correct.

My guess is that you did all the testing with the hotracing knuckles and c's you have in the picture? They must not have the same holes as the stockers. I think it just needs a little more tweaking. Try it with stock plastic knuckles. I don't have pics cause I had a comp and pulled it all apart. The battery tray is great.

Edit..or maybe we just got a bad batch of tierods?

[928darwin]

Yeah i installed it to and found that it gave me toe in, i did not want. So back to my stock steering link. Bad batch?

[jetboat]

These were tested with CKRC, Rc4wd and stock Plastic. I can post pics of the stock plastic and CKRC pics are above. It was not tested with Hotracing.
I stress that this MUST be installed in the inside hole. If you install it on the outer hole it will cause toe issues.

I installed a kit from the 1st batch onto my comp rig and had absolutly no problems...

Anyone having install problems, please take pictures of the setup showing the problem and PM me. I will do what ever is needed to get it working for you.

[fordmike65]

Going to test fit mine this weekend.I did notice that the finish quality isn't that good.Looks like the holes are in the right place,but the machining isn't that great especially where the plate is countersunk.I'ts gonna need a fair amount of cleaning up.Oh well:roll:.Function over form I guess.I'll post pics as soon as I get it together-Mike

[miller]

Going to test fit mine this weekend.I did notice that the finish quality isn't that good.Looks like the holes are in the right place,but the machining isn't that great especially where the plate is countersunk.I'ts gonna need a fair amount of cleaning up.Oh well:roll:.Function over form I guess.I'll post pics as soon as I get it together-Mike

That's probably what keeps the price down. I'm sure any issues will be worked out if there are any, could just be installer error :) The battery tray alone is great with the link mount holes.

[TattooKenny]

Move your steering behind the axle for improved approach angles.

No more hanging up on steering linkages.

Works with Stock Plastic or aftermarket aluminum (tested with CKRC and Rc4wd knuckles)

Simple to install with no modifications to your knuckles needed (Alhough trimming off the tips will greatly improve your steering)

$20 shipped in the US
Club orders of 10 sets or more receive a $2 discount plus free shipping.

Kit includes the Tie rod, servo mounts and the spacers needed. I have left out items that you should already have like screw and nuts. (why pay for what you dont need)


Custom milling $5 extra (bottom picture is custom version)
rear 4-link mount $10 extra
(please send PM if requesting either)

Paypal: jshirley78@hotmail.com

These were tested with CKRC, Rc4wd and stock Plastic. I can post pics of the stock plastic and CKRC pics are above. It was not tested with Hotracing.
I stress that this MUST be installed in the inside hole. If you install it on the outer hole it will cause toe issues.

I installed a kit from the 1st batch onto my comp rig and had absolutly no problems...

Anyone having install problems, please take pictures of the setup showing the problem and PM me. I will do what ever is needed to get it working for you.

You have HR knuckles and C's in the pict that the BTA is on? You know I'm not trying to dick you around on this man? I sent picts but here are some more.....Pict showing it's in the right "Hole" and a pict of the BTA steering link hitting and rubbing the pumpkin on the axle......Like I said, I lost a lot of steering throw and it rub's bad! So much that when me and JIA drove it at Stone Mt. in Atlanta it took a 13ft circle to do a full 360! IMO the design need to be tweaked and trimed. I think you are going to have more and more people with the same prob like you are starting to see now.....Oh, and I tried stock knuckles, HR, Integy, and CKRC's.....same thing on all of them.....I see no way to fix it other than trimming the link in the middle so it clears the axle, down side is it will make the link weak in the middle doing that?

[jetboat]

Kenny,
That appears to be at full lock only. I am running the xact same knuckles and c's as you and I dont get they rub. When I purchased my knuckles they were sold as CKRC not as hot racing and came in CKRC packaging hence I knew them only as CKRC.

I see 4 solutions for you:
1: Send the tie rod back and I will modify it on the mill so that it clearances without weakening it.

2: I can send you the taller standoffs which should fix the issue.

Below suggestions are not recommended but they are still options

3: Use a dremel with a sanding wheel to clearance it yourself (I would prefer you do option #1 or #2 though)

4: Clearance the axle housing itself (Still prefer you do option #1 or #2)

As for the bad turning radius, if you trim off the end of the knuckle arm you should be able to turn way tighter but, you will need to make sure you dont over adjust your epa's.

I will post up pictures of the BTA installed on stock knuckles and some side shots to show proper clocking.


As for the finish, batch #2 servo mounts will have a brushed finish instead of the raw finish. However, as stated above, having these polished would increase the price greatly. At this point I am barely breaking even (actually in the red right now), I only sell these to help the comunity not to make money.

Edit: I have decided to delay shipment of batch 2 while I make a couple modifications so that noone else runs into the rubbing that Kenny has experienced.

[jetboat]

As you can see, installed on stock setup straight from axial, there is almost no toe in

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/jshirley78/mudtruck/IMG_2080.jpg

[miller]

Well I guess my pictures will look the same...big loss in steering throw because it hits the pumpkin...but I'll try to get my pictures too.

Jetboat can you take your setup and and a stock set up and have them turn a full circle together and post video of that?

[Siggy]

Is there a way that you can fit using AX10-RCP Knuckles and C's?
Thanks Bud

[jetboat]

Jetboat can you take your setup and and a stock set up and have them turn a full circle together and post video of that?

I dont have a stock setup, never have as I dont buy kits only axle sets.


Is there a way that you can fit using AX10-RCP Knuckles and C's?
Thanks Bud

As far as I know, all of the C's/Knuckles are designed as dropin replacements for the stock ax10 setup. With this in mind, any manufactures parts SHOULD work the same.

[jetboat]

After looking at Kenny's pictures I decided to modify my knuckles so that it would demand more clearnace from the tierod... After removing the material from my knuckles the tires could turn considerably more and I did encounter the same rubbing. The solution was to mill do the part of the tie rod that was rubbing. I feel that this should fix the problem in ALL cases and will NOT effect strength, as plenty of material remains.

I will offer a FREE EXCHANGE to anyone who purchased a kit from Batch #1 (Batch #2 will be modified before shipping) If you have a tie rod from Batch #1 please PM me and I will send you my address, simply place the tierod in a regular envelope (I find it best to tape it to the inside of the envelope) and drop it in the mail with 1 stamp on it (Include your address on a card with the part). As soon as I receive the tierod I will mail a replacement the same day.


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/jshirley78/IMG_2096.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/jshirley78/IMG_2098.jpg

Steering angle of Mod Batch #1/Batch #2 on left Standard batch #1 on right

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/jshirley78/IMG_2099.jpg

[TattooKenny]

Quick question.....So will we be getting a new brushed finished new milled link from the 2nd batch or are the links we have now just getting modded?

[jetboat]

I am not brushing the tierods, only the servo plate (when I tried brushing the tierods I almost took off my finger). I Have been planning on modifing your tie rod since it is exactly the same as batch #2. I can exchange it if you want. Unfortunatly due to cost I cannot just replace it, I have to exchange/fix it.

[hardhead]

Well I guess my pictures will look the same...big loss in steering throw because it hits the pumpkin...but I'll try to get my pictures too.

Jetboat can you take your setup and and a stock set up and have them turn a full circle together and post video of that?
I had the same problem i took the dremal to it and ground about 1/8 off and it didnt hit anymore. What i didn't like was how loose i had to run the steering to keep the spacers from locking down on the knuckles. I guess the setup is ok its just not for me.

[dybbob]

when will the battery plate ship?

[jetboat]

All parts are instock and I will stat filling customer orders tomorrow.

All orders will receive Brushed and machined V2 parts. (Updated pictures to come)

[rockcrawler505]

paypal sent thanks.

[jetboat]

Im ahead of sched... all domestic (within the US) orders will ship TODAY... International orders will Ship Friday (Thursday is a holiday and I'm traveling Wednesday and thus cant make it to the post office to fill out the forms).

I have 1 more V2 kit packaged and ready to go if someone buys it today it will ship today. All others will ship Friday/Monday.

V1 exchanges will ship the same day they are received, and you will receive a brushed tie-rod, just the same as the v2 kits.

[rockcrawler505]

got mine in today just finished installing it works great a++++++

[dybbob]

so whats the status of the orders?
i wanted just the servo plate and was wondering if all orders went out?
i like turkey!

[jetboat]

All Domestic orders shipped out Tuesday @ 5pm central. I expect everyone to have them no later than Tuesday.

[Siggy]

Just wanting to know if mine is already in-transit. Thanks!

[jetboat]

Just wanting to know if mine is already in-transit. Thanks!


International orders go out today.

[Hawk Mortimer]

As of today (12-9-08) I don't have my replacement Servo Mtg.Plates qty. 2, domestic shippment.
Any way you can check on them?

Thanks,
Hawk
aka Gary S.

[jetboat]

All shipments are taking extra time but, they are slowly trickling in. Give it till next weekend, if they dont show by then Ill send some new ones.

[Hawk Mortimer]

I waited till Monday 12-15-08 and no Servo Mtg. Plates. I guess the package is lost.

Gary Sims
aka Hawk

[Siggy]

Hi,

Just wanted to check again if mine has been sent. Thanks"thumbsup"

[jetboat]

ALL SHIPMENTS ARE OUT... This is the busiest shipping week for the post office... Please be patient. Even x-mas cards sent to local address' are taking 1 1/2-2 weeks. I have yet to have a to have a package actually get lost. Its only been about 1 week, I have had packages take 2 weeks during off peak shipping times.

[Siggy]

Got them from the mail today not a day late! Thanks Jetboat. "thumbsup" I can't make it work well with the RCP's -- the front tires tows-in and we loose a lot of steering. BUT I did manage to fix it well on the HR's doing some shaving on the Knuckles stem and the BTA as Kenny describes. Did also some countersinking of servo stand holes -- then it just works Great. I'll see if i can get time to try it out on the rocks over the week-end., Thanks again!

[rockassassin]

I am having a hard time getting it setup right. It is ethier to tight or to loose. The screws that hold the spacers to the steering together. Any ideas on how to fix this thanks.

[jetboat]

I am having a hard time getting it setup right. It is ethier to tight or to loose. The screws that hold the spacers to the steering together. Any ideas on how to fix this thanks.


Personally I use nuts on mine versus counting on the threads in the arm. I tightened mine up until it was too tight to move then backed it up about 1/4 turn. It will still be really snug, move the wheels back and forth a couple times and it will free right up. You just have to get the aluminum to polish itself basically. I have been working on finding some kind of bushing to use but I havent found anything that will work at a low enough price.


Siggy, glad you got yours, wasnt sure how shipping would work out to you. I appologize that your tie rod wasnt milled deep enough, the set I sent you was ment for myself (the set on the front page, bottom picture) but ,there was a mix up the day they went out (I shipped 10 sets that day, more than any other day).

[carzlutt]

nice looking set up

[Siggy]

Siggy, glad you got yours, wasnt sure how shipping would work out to you. I appologize that your tie rod wasnt milled deep enough, the set I sent you was ment for myself (the set on the front page, bottom picture) but ,there was a mix up the day they went out (I shipped 10 sets that day, more than any other day).


I'm glad to have these as my 3s lipo can fit and sit perfect on the axle, and the rig can get through obstacles a lot quicker. "thumbsup"

Many Thanks and have a Great Year for 2009!"thumbsup"

86717

86718

[Trugg]

Siggy, what kind of axle housing is that?... bling8)

[jetboat]

I was wondering what holes you had to counter sink... now I see. Never thought anyone would want the 4-link holes counter sunk.

[ROCKCAD]

JETBOAT

IS IT REQIURED TO CUT OFF ANY OF THE HOLES ON ST RACING ALUM KNUCKLES WITH YOUR BTA KIT ?? THANKS. "thumbsup"

[Siggy]

Siggy, what kind of axle housing is that?... bling8)

They are Axial aluminum housing aftermarket parts with the rock catching edges rounded.

[inline6power]

is it possible to just buy the tie rode bar and not the mounting plate? i think i can mod mine to work just fine with my 4 link setup , just wondering. thanks jetboat

[jetboat]

on the knuckles you should be able to just use the inner hole and not need to drill a new hole. However, there have been a couple cases of knuckles that dont seem to be standard.

Im not wanting to break up any more sets tto sell parts seperate.

[inline6power]

on the knuckles you should be able to just use the inner hole and not need to drill a new hole. However, there have been a couple cases of knuckles that dont seem to be standard.

Im not wanting to break up any more sets tto sell parts seperate.
well if you have some in stock i will buy the entire kit.

[jetboat]

I have 5 kits still in stock, after they sell there may be a slight delay.

[inline6power]

sweet let me know how much and where to send to please. thanks.

[jetboat]

$20 shipped

paypal is jshirley78@hotmail.com

[AKRCC]

$20 shipped

paypal is jshirley78@hotmail.com

Payment sent for custom milled set. Thank your for your services. "thumbsup"

Rocky

[jetboat]

I have been getting several emails/PM's about stock status...

I have 3 kits left in stock ready to ship.

After these are gone it will be 2-3 weeks before I will have more ready to ship.

There will be a version 3 once these sell, it will work just the same, just will be easier for me to finish once I get them from the cutter. My cost will go up but, there will be NO price increase.

[quickster47]

Let me know when the new stock arrives as I will be buying another one and maybe two. Trying to get my grand sons indoctrinated into crawling.

Carl

[ROCKCAD]

pay-pal sent.... what improvements will the new version have...if any ?...thanks.



I have been getting several emails/PM's about stock status...

I have 3 kits left in stock ready to ship.

After these are gone it will be 2-3 weeks before I will have more ready to ship.

There will be a version 3 once these sell, it will work just the same, just will be easier for me to finish once I get them from the cutter. My cost will go up but, there will be NO price increase.

[jetboat]

pay-pal sent.... what improvements will the new version have...if any ?...thanks.


The tierod has been redesigned slightly so that I dont have to machine them after they are cut. Thats the biggest change. Im looking at having them tumbled versus brushed also. I have some other changes I want to make but I have to wait to see how much they will cost before I do.

[jetboat]

only 1 kit in stock!

[jetboat]

SOLD OUT

currently I am completly sold out, new kits will be available in approx 1 week. The new kits will be a slightly revised version "thumbsup" Look for a new thread once the V3 kits become available.

[P1choco]

Sent you a PM jetboat. 8)

[P1choco]

I'd like to get the V3 set. Will you post in this thread or make a new one when they are available?

[jetboat]

Ill start an all new thread so that there is no confusion as to what you will be getting. I am crossing my fingers they show up before the weekend but, even if they do, the soonest they will start shipping is Monday.
There is enough of a redisgn on them that I want to test them before I send out any. "thumbsup"