MOA vs Shafty

[kblackwell71]

Is there any talk about making MOA 2.2 it's own class?

[dezfan]

Here we go again?:roll:

[jeepcj578]

Here we go again?:roll:


yep yep:lol: and again and again............

[666]

Is there any talk about making MOA 2.2 it's own class?

Why would that happen?

[Speedracer19]

Better yet, why would it need to happen?

[kblackwell71]

if you look at it a MOA crawler will out proform a shaft driven one.

yeah I know the whole "a driver with better skills can beat a MOA wirh a shafty" just throw that away for this.

take 2 crawlers set up the same (or as the same as you can get) the MOA will crawl better than the shaft driven.

I have both, and my berg outcrawls my shafty.

anyhow I was just wondering.

could someone post the thread link please.

thanks

[joesbruiser]

I do believe it is what a driver is comfortable with.
Take Austin Dunn for example.He has run both types and I am way more scared of him with a shafty than when he was running a berg.
A shaft rig can beat a MOA the second you think one cain't is when someone will hand you your butt with one:lol:

[Scattman]

Anyone seen my horse?

[Rockcrawler]

Anyone seen my horse?


I left it out back after they beat the hell out of it. :lol::lol:

[sloppy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/crispini/beathorse.gif
http://www.vjforums.com/images/smilies/deadhorse.gif
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/deadhorse.gif

I found it..

[666]

I have both, and my berg outcrawls my shafty.



Well I guess you found your crutch and should stick with it.

I, personally see no reason to separate the shafties from the MOA's.

[chip cross]

I left it out back after I beat the hell out of it. :lol::lol: You horse f----- !!!!! :lol::lol:

Well I guess you found your crutch and should stick with it.

I, personally see no reason to separate the shafties from the MOA's.
X 2 "thumbsup"

[renoirbud]

Is there any talk about making MOA 2.2 it's own class?


If you want to run a class without MOA, run scale or 1.9 comp.

[sddill]

Both rigs have there advantages and disadvantages "thumbsup" Witch makes them equal in my book...;-)

[crawldad91]

Both rigs have there advantages and disadvantages "thumbsup" Witch makes them equal in my book...;-)

+2!!
ive done things with my shafty... bergs can only dream about doin!

bergs are pos imo

[crawldad91]

naaa.. just kiddin , they are not pos's they are just a different type of beast thats all.

i do plan do build one this year. i still love my shafty's though

[Stormin2u]

I just love it when a guy buys a MOA because he thinks it's an advantage and then gets beat by a shaftie or better yet shafies that just makes my day how embarrassing. :lol:"thumbsup"

[Badd]

There has been a few times this year I would have killed to have my shafty . The OCM/Berg are a beast but a shafty will shine on courses the OCM/Berg hate . Just looks at the mix of rigs in the top 5 at Nationals .
3 OCM/Bergs
1 TLT ( WHAT , WHAT IS THAT ? ) shafty maybe :-P
1 Axial ( what another shafty )

[BL44ST]

i dont think the spred of competion is that far apart. once something else comes out that is over the top it should be slpit but far a moa vs shafty its more of a challenge to beat the berg which is good to have ... everyone likes a challenge sometimes. if not get a bergg "thumbsup"

[Crawlerguy851]

The berg has an easier time climbing the impossible lines, so it's a great rig to show off to your friends about how it can do this instead of being fast or whatever, but a shafty is typically more consistent.

[coolkidjf7]

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129075&highlight=MOA+shafty
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141773&highlight=MOA+shafty
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140405&highlight=MOA+shafty

I heart searching"thumbsup"

[nico_6194]

the advantage of having a MOA is that at climbs when in a shafty you would need to engage freewheel to climb and not tip over but in a MOA it would run the two motors at different speeds... AM I RIGHT????

[coolkidjf7]

the advantage of having a MOA is that at climbs when in a shafty you would need to engage freewheel to climb and not tip over but in a MOA it would run the two motors at different speeds... AM I RIGHT????

No, lower cg, and insane breakover angles are the advantages. Clod-stall is a dual edged sword.... it helps and hurts in equal amounts

[crawldad91]

The berg has an easier time climbing the impossible lines, so it's a great rig to show off to your friends about how it can do this instead of being fast or whatever, but a shafty is typically more consistent.

not always! we have a spot that is a nasty climb that quite a few bergs have ATTEMPTED, they didnt make it. then me and 2 other guys with shafty's went right up them.

[youngblood]

I know the spot you are talking about, I was there for the bergs, and I want video proof that your axial made it!!!!!! :lol:

[RC Shocker]

I was doing fairly well locally with my shafty, it was working well and almost complete. But no dig. and I needed it.

So my reason for going MOA was for the "dig set-up". Never gave too much thought as to whether I'd be gaining some huge "imaginary" advantage because of it.

And that's the truth "thumbsup"

[maro69camaro]

i aint scared of no MOA however, there are a few drivers around here that kick my a** no mater what. nluv, chino63, bounsline, badger:?: well not badger but, when these guys show up i dont care what they are driving you better have your game face on, and chino63 (dean) still has TLT's on his comp rig:shock:. i say run what you brung.

[Fishmaxx]

Is there any talk about making MOA 2.2 it's own class?


To answer the original question...


...it came up in Rules Committee, and was briefly disscussed then dropped.

ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

[hitman46mod]

To answer the original question...


...it came up in Rules Committee, and was briefly disscussed then dropped.

ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!X2 I'm in the top 5 with my shafty against almost all Burgs. And we are only 2 comps into the winter series."thumbsup"

[Radron]

Oh no, Another Ford vs Chevy debate! LOL!!

Drive what you like,they'll all get beaten one time or another!!"thumbsup"

[dpdsurf]

For arguments sakes to the original question, let's say we all agree that the MOA works 1,000 times better than a shafty, the answer is still no. You do not make rule changes because someone found out a way make something perform better within the rules. This would eliminate any incintive for progression by both individuals and manufacturers.

I guess you could make a major rule change if it was designated for the overall good of the sport. But fair warning would be needed to allow those who invested to make the adjustment. What I'm talking about is if an advantage in the rules could be obtained but it were not readily available or affordable to the gen pop. But MOA does not fit in this categaory because we all can buy them. And I have already proven that it is cheaper to build a custom Berg than a custom shafty.