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[Eritex Inc.]

So, I need to get a Rock Force because of the request for parts. I have little to no time to build the stock kit so I got my 9 year old to build it for me. A good way to work at home without the wife getting torqued and a great way to spend a little time with the boy.

Greyson waiting for me:lol:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/rockcourse001.jpg

He can see the box...
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/rockcourse002.jpg

Had to cover the table. Don't want to piss mom off...
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/rockcourse003.jpg

He actually read the instructions...
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/rockcourse004.jpg

Paying attention to detail, he knew to build a "front" and a "rear"...
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/rockcourse005.jpg

Checking to make sure we had the right part...
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/rockcourse006.jpg

We got the axles done, but bedtime caught up with us.


More later"thumbsup"

[Hurley0706]

"thumbsup"

These people need you Gerame! They need some wheels for this rig........

[Eritex Inc.]

"thumbsup"

These people need you Gerame! They need some wheels for this rig........

Already in the works....

[Hurley0706]

Already in the works....

I assumed they were. You could probably load the chassis side plates up in the mill and get 3 or 4 full sets of rock rings out of that huge contraption :lol:

[Eritex Inc.]

The chassis is....um....something. After the wheels, that is next.

[killjoyken]

Ahhh, reminds me of building my first RC-10. "thumbsup"

Since I can't seem to get a response from Vanquish (email and PM for over 2 weeks) I'm looking for a new wheel vendor. Let us know when the wheels are ready and I'll pick up a set.

Enjoy the build! Then the teardown. Then the rebuild. Then...;-)

[Eritex Inc.]

I think for this thing, AL wheels are the only way to go. These axles scream "stout".

[killjoyken]

I think for this thing, AL wheels are the only way to go. These axles scream "stout".

Exactly. Narrow offset and beefy. "thumbsup"

[RPMJ]

I think for this thing, AL wheels are the only way to go. These axles scream "stout".

If you make some I think you sell a lot of them"thumbsup"

[dave56bug]

Nice, im in for a set of wheels.

[JohnRobHolmes]

14mm hexes would allow a narrower track width as well.

Gonne be a good build! I can't wait to see what you come up with.

[kwkride]

Good job with getting the family involved Gerame! "thumbsup"

[Eritex Inc.]

Well, we got it together. Holy crap is this thing wide:shock:

I have 22 pages of doodles for parts for it. I will get started on prototyping soon.

[Reflection]

14mm hexes would allow a narrower track width as well.

X 23,435,654

14mm hexes are gonna be your best bet.

[Eritex Inc.]

X 23,435,654

14mm hexes are gonna be your best bet.

I am doing a custom set for a TF right now. A lot of that R&D is getting roled into the Rock Force parts.

And ya, 14mm is looking VERY promising;-)

[Reflection]

I am doing a custom set for a TF right now. A lot of that R&D is getting roled into the Rock Force parts.

And ya, 14mm is looking VERY promising;-)

Oh yeah."thumbsup"

You could even go one step better and just put 17mm hexes in them. SUPER BEEF!8) Buggy hexes all around...yee haw!.:lol: Heck,with a wheel like that,I'd run them on my super.....

[miniwheeler]

How about machine the wheel for the crosspin and loose the hex all togather"thumbsup"

[Eritex Inc.]

How about machine the wheel for the crosspin and loose the hex all togather"thumbsup"

I thought about that but if at some point someone makes a CVD or some other upgraded axle that has a hex but no option for a pin set, the wheels would be worthless.

[Rockcrawler]

How about machine the wheel for the crosspin and loose the hex all togather"thumbsup"

I would rather have a hex myself. That way if you have a wheel nut come loose, you don't destroy the wheel, only the hex. "thumbsup"

[killjoyken]

Are you thinking of making new 14/17mm hexes for it, or using existing hexes? The stock hex pin is .538" long and the slot on my 14mm Savage hex is .515". I think if you go with a 14mm hex there's not going to be much material left if you use stock pin. The Savage hex fits with the Savage pin but doesn't sit far enough down to touch the bearing so you'll end up with a lot of slop. If you're going to go through the trouble of using bigger hexes, my vote goes in for 17mm. "thumbsup"

I milled out some stock Axial hexes and cut down some pins and managed to narrow the track width another 1/2" overall without putting the Epic wheels into the knuckles. That narrowed my rear track width to just under 10.25" with Badlands. It helped reduce the turning circle tremendously.

[twistedone]

put me on the list for a set also please let us know when they are ready"thumbsup"

[JOOTZ]

rockforce build looking good Gerame, this will benefit a lot of RF owners.

[vonclod]

wouldnt the adjustable wb rims work,,right now i,m at 10 3/8 with the epic rims, was looking at your site and thought why not run the adjustable ones..how much adjustment is there?, i plan on useing in my rf and the berg

[dave56bug]

Thats what I thought, the Eritex adjustable width wheels should work? especially once i drillout these axial hexes i have here like killjoyken did.

[vonclod]

Thats what I thought, the Eritex adjustable width wheels should work? especially once i drillout these axial hexes i have here like killjoyken did.
i think he must of also milled out the where the pin sits in the hex for the larger diameter pin
man i wish i had a hobby mill/lathe

[Reflection]

i think he must of also milled out the where the pin sits in the hex for the larger diameter pin
man i wish i had a hobby mill/lathe

That would be a must. You can hardly even see an Axial pin if it's sitting next to a Kyosho pin.:lol:

Cutting a 12mm hex down to work with 1:8 scale stuff,you ain't got much material left to hold the hex itself together. I've tried. It works,but I don't think it's durable enough for long term use. 14mm would be bare minimum I think,17mm being the best option honestly.

I'm pretty sure these wheels will be just as stout as his other wheels."thumbsup"

[vonclod]

cool, cant wait"thumbsup"

[killjoyken]

I posted some pics of the modded hexes in my thread. It's not a practical mod but works for now.

The front of my GC-1 is about 10.25" wide and the back is just over 9.25" wide. It's been working well for me which is why I'd like to get the RF as narrow as possible.

[Eritex Inc.]

Using stock hexes and the new wheels, 9.125" outer ring to outer ring.....

[Bart bender]

Lookin good Gerame. Can't wait to see what you come up with"thumbsup"

[Dewmerz]

Using stock hexes and the new wheels, 9.125" outer ring to outer ring.....

Nice. Does the wheel nut stick out any further than the ring?

[Eritex Inc.]

Nice. Does the wheel nut stick out any further than the ring?


yup...

[Eritex Inc.]

Which axle do you think the beadlocks are on???
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/Rockforcepictures010.jpg

With stock tires, 9.75" from outer tread to outer tread.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/Rockforcepictures012.jpg
Prototypes are in Delrin. I have some new wheel nuts coming this week.

[BILLYGOAT]

looks awesome Gerame. this wheel should help with the rock force alot.

[Eritex Inc.]

This is a shot with the RF lined up with my Axial Comp rig...
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/axialnexttoRF001.jpg

[Rockcrawler]

Nice job Gerame. "thumbsup"

[goobs]

SWEET!
do you have a wheel that would give the truck about a 10" width cuz on my comp rig i run 10.5" outside tire to tire. so with about a 1/4" of tire sticking out each side of the wheel. if it helps i run ur comp heavies w/ the flat backside on my axial. and was just looking to get about the same width. if not ill use these w/ no complaint.

[Eritex Inc.]

SWEET!
do you have a wheel that would give the truck about a 10" width cuz on my comp rig i run 10.5" outside tire to tire. so with about a 1/4" of tire sticking out each side of the wheel. if it helps i run ur comp heavies w/ the flat backside on my axial. and was just looking to get about the same width. if not ill use these w/ no complaint.

The wheels you are running are the same offset you see on my axial.

[killjoyken]

Very nice. Exactly what I was looking for. Where can I send payment? ;-)

[vonclod]

wow what a difference:shock: very nice.. and with stock hexes, when do you think they will be available?"thumbsup"

[Eritex Inc.]

wow what a difference:shock: very nice.. and with stock hexes, when do you think they will be available?"thumbsup"


I am going to run the AL protos early tomorrow. The design is sound (same as the rest of my standard wheels), I just need to make sure the alterations in feed and speed I have done to the program agree with the aluminum and leave the finish I am looking for.

[goobs]

The wheels you are running are the same offset you see on my axial.

SAAHWEETNESS!!!!

[twistedone]

Very nice. Exactly what I was looking for. Where can I send payment? ;-)
x2:)

[killjoyken]

Gerame, you are the man. "thumbsup"

[dezmoon]

im in,,,,

[John]

These will do the job. Paypal ready.

Any chance of making some longer stub axles?"thumbsup"

[Eritex Inc.]

These will do the job. Paypal ready.

Any chance of making some longer stub axles?"thumbsup"

Longer???

Are ya building a super or something?:lol:

[dave56bug]

I think he just means longer axle area for there to be more threaded portion for the wheel nut.

[Eritex Inc.]

I think he just means longer axle area for there to be more threaded portion for the wheel nut.

No need, I just picked up lock nuts that fully seat.

[MuddKnuckle]

x2:)
X3"thumbsup"

[Hurley0706]

Looking good Gerame. Can't get anymore offset than that with the 12mm hexes "thumbsup"

How are the link and shock clearances at full lock and articulating?

[Eritex Inc.]

Looking good Gerame. Can't get anymore offset than that with the 12mm hexes "thumbsup"

How are the link and shock clearances at full lock and articulating?

You cant get anymore offset with the stock axle, period. The back ring clears the knuckle by about .040".

It can go lock to lock and hits nothing....

[EeePee]

Skinny nuts.

Sweet wheels man, I'm in. Don't tell anyone.

[Hurley0706]

You cant get anymore offset with the stock axle, period. The back ring clears the knuckle by about .040".


Unless you went narrower, but now we are just getting ridiculous :lol:

Good to hear clearances aren't an issue. Have you tried them with a more "standard" tire (Hammer, claw, panther, ect) and checked clearances? I guess it doesn't even really matter, the stock chassis is too wide anyway so link locations could be pinched in anyway.

Anyway, "thumbsup"

Nice job on the HT indoor course panel BTW. I am getting pumped for the event.

[Eritex Inc.]

I figured as wide as the stockers are, if those tires clear we should be golden"thumbsup"

[Hurley0706]

I figured as wide as the stockers are, if those tires clear we should be golden"thumbsup"

I think you should have put tires in quotes.........those are hardly an excuse for tires :lol:

Matching a typical axial width is good with me. Sometimes I like to run my rear axle more narrow but these are still perfect.

Nice response time, you the man.

[Dewmerz]

How did the aluminum proto's turn out?

[Eritex Inc.]

How did the aluminum proto's turn out?

Really nicely. Fit is perfect, look is okay (needs a bit of tweeking), new SS locknut is tits;-)

[killjoyken]

I guess it doesn't even really matter, the stock chassis is too wide anyway so link locations could be pinched in anyway.


My god, are you guys still using the stock chassis? :lol:

Gerame: what tweaking? It's a flat wheel! :-P

This is awesome. My dig just showed up from Genki today and your wheels are almost done. Now if I could just find some high speed gears I'd be set!

[Hurley0706]

My god, are you guys still using the stock chassis? :lol:


:D

Thats because I put it in a box until I had a bunch of time to waste looking at it :lol:

If I decide to build it up to an acceptable level then I have a couple ideas.

[Eritex Inc.]

Not just flat wheel:mrgreen:

[SVEN]

Not just flay wheel:mrgreen:

hmm.... I'll take a stab at it. "Not just any flat wheel"

Do you happen to know if that wheel would work on the rear of a berg (possible width)? I am wanting to narrow the rear of my berg, these may be what I'm looking for.

[Eritex Inc.]

hmm.... I'll take a stab at it. "Not just any flat wheel"

Do you happen to know if that wheel would work on the rear of a berg (possible width)? I am wanting to narrow the rear of my berg, these may be what I'm looking for.

Yup, tired...

I would say no, I will test fit one tomorrow and let you know...

[Eritex Inc.]

hmm.... I'll take a stab at it. "Not just any flat wheel"

Do you happen to know if that wheel would work on the rear of a berg (possible width)? I am wanting to narrow the rear of my berg, these may be what I'm looking for.

Okay, if you have a rear steer lockout that gets rid of the steering arm, they will work. No chance with the steering arm :lol:

[SVEN]

Excellent, just what I was hoping for. You wouldn't happen to know the width it would put the rear would you?

[4xFord]

For what its worth, I have a set of flat face delrins for the rear of my berg that take it down to about 9.5"

[Eritex Inc.]

Excellent, just what I was hoping for. You wouldn't happen to know the width it would put the rear would you?

Take your hex to hex measurement and add about .450"

[killjoyken]

So when do we get to see the "not flat" wheel? ;-)

[MuddKnuckle]

We know you have got to have pic's today, so please show us!:lol:

[killjoyken]

We know you have got to have pic's today, so please show us!:lol:

I think he's torturing us. :lol: Actually, I hope he's busy in the shop making wheels. "thumbsup"

[Dewmerz]

I think he's torturing us. :lol: Actually, I hope he's busy in the shop making wheels. "thumbsup"

Yep making my wheels. :-P Now he can get back to yours.

Gerame you must be machining a masterpiece. "thumbsup"

[killjoyken]

Yep making my wheels. :-P Now he can get back to yours.

Gerame you must be machining a masterpiece. "thumbsup"

Maybe I should have asked him to make another set for me. I was just going to wait until the RF wheels were done and order them together. I figured I'd order a set for myself to practice on before milling yours.

[jl_907]

Would these rims happen to be ones you made? I really like these alot, I have used them in ever comp I have gone to this year and they work really well.
Thanks Jim
ps I did get them from a friend

[Eritex Inc.]

Would these rims happen to be ones you made? I really like these alot, I have used them in ever comp I have gone to this year and they work really well.
Thanks Jim
ps I did get them from a friend

Nope, those are DNA wheels;-)

[jl_907]

Sorry!!! I was miss informed.

[Eritex Inc.]

Sorry!!! I was miss informed.

Not a problem, I just don't want people to think I am ripping Don off;-)

[killjoyken]

Hey Gerame,

How are the wheels coming along? :)

[John]

Can we order the RF wheels tonight? Do you have a price? I don't want to stay up too late. Santa usually hits our house just after midnight.

[killjoyken]

Can we order the RF wheels tonight? Do you have a price? I don't want to stay up too late. Santa usually hits our house just after midnight.

He did say before x-mas....;-) I've got a set of Rovers on the way from TCS just for these wheels. "thumbsup"

[goobs]

He did say before x-mas....;-) I've got a set of Rovers on the way from TCS just for these wheels. "thumbsup"

me too!

are the wheels ready yet?

[bRIBEGuy]

are the wheels ready yet?

Those are my thoughts too.

I'm down for a set as soon as they are...........

[killjoyken]

Hey Gerame, have you gotten a chance to start on the RF wheels yet? I'm not sure how long these plastic Proline wheels are going to last! :lol:

[JOOTZ]

Hey Gerame, have you gotten a chance to start on the RF wheels yet? I'm not sure how long these plastic Proline wheels are going to last! :lol:

+11tymillion on that, would like to have eritex on my RF too.

[JOOTZ]

any updates Gerame ?

[Eritex Inc.]

any updates Gerame ?

First batch of Delrin wheels are done, new rings look great, SS lock nuts to replace the big blue goofy one are packages up, and I just accidentally deleted all the pictures I need to start the sales thread.:shock::x:lol:

I guess I will retake the pictures in the morning and toss the thread up then;-)

[dave56bug]

Awesome! Will be patiently waiting for pics :ror:

[Eritex Inc.]

Awesome! Will be patiently waiting for pics :ror:

If my knee wasn't hurting so bad I would think of driving the 6.2 miles to the shop and taking more.

[JOOTZ]

great news gerame, so close and yet so far/lol. we all can wait till tomorrow.

[bRIBEGuy]

I'm looking forward to seeing these for sure!

:)

[dezmoon]

are these gonna be like the ones for bart bender,,,,those 17mm 2.2 rims were awesome,,,if you can do those for the rock force that would be sweet,,,

[dave56bug]

If my knee wasn't hurting so bad I would think of driving the 6.2 miles to the shop and taking more.


Ooh that doesn't sound good, :-(

[Eritex Inc.]

Ooh that doesn't sound good, :-(

Nothing to bad, I just blew my knee apart 20 months ago and long days make it hurt.

Thought you guys might like to know....


http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1617770#post1617770

:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[dezmoon]

they look great,,,to narrow for me though...

[Eritex Inc.]

they look great,,,to narrow for me though...

Track width or wheel?

The wheel is 1.000" wide like almost all of my other 2.2 wheels.

[goobs]

they look great,,,to narrow for me though...


yeah me too
track width that is but ill wait to see how it looks with normal comp tires on it like requested in the other thread before i make my final answer.
the bl ring is freaking awsome!

[Eritex Inc.]

Here are some pictures with Losi Rock Claws mounted up. Also, I put the Rockforce next to my Axial to show the similarity in track width...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/morerockforcepictures001.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/morerockforcepictures004.jpg


You can really see the diff clearance difference in this shot...
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/morerockforcepictures006.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/morerockforcepictures007.jpg

[dezmoon]

Track width or wheel?

The wheel is 1.000" wide like almost all of my other 2.2 wheels.

the track width,,,,after runnin mine the way its been im very comfortable with it at its current track with of 103/8,,i know 3/8 isnt alot,,its just good for me and my driving style,,they really look awesome though,,,,

[Eritex Inc.]

the track width,,,,after runnin mine the way its been im very comfortable with it at its current track with of 103/8,,i know 3/8 isnt alot,,its just good for me and my driving style,,they really look awesome though,,,,


I cut a set for a local guy that adds .250" track width per side. I will have to take some pictures of those for you;-)

[dezmoon]

I cut a set for a local guy that adds .250" track width per side. I will have to take some pictures of those for you;-)

yes please,,that would probably put me where i want to be,,,thanx

[dkingston]

Gerame,

Those look AWESOME! Glad things are going better for you. "thumbsup""thumbsup"


- David

[goobs]

yes please,,that would probably put me where i want to be,,,thanx

me too!
right now im at 11" outside tire to tire.

[sparky0068]

I cut a set for a local guy that adds .250" track width per side. I will have to take some pictures of those for you;-)


You must be talking about me.

[JOOTZ]

^^^ care to post some pics...

[Eritex Inc.]

Here are the wider offset Rock Force wheels....

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/wideoffsetrockforce001.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/wideoffsetrockforce003.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/wideoffsetrockforce004.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/wideoffsetrockforce005.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/wideoffsetrockforce006.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/ShyGecko/RD400/wideoffsetrockforce007.jpg

These have .250" wider offset per wheel over my standard Rock Force wheels. You can see the different with the standards on the rear (right side of shot) and the wider offsets on the front (left side of shot).


Hope this helps,

Gerame

[dkingston]

Very, very nice!


- David

[goobs]

those look better i might have to try a set with the .250 wider offset.
maybe i could get some with 3/8" offset and that i think would be perfect! especially since the wheel is only 1" wide.

[Dewmerz]

Are these the same offset as the 1" Berg Comp Heavies?

Here are the wider offset Rock Force wheels....

These have .250" wider offset per wheel over my standard Rock Force wheels. You can see the different with the standards on the rear (right side of shot) and the wider offsets on the front (left side of shot).


Hope this helps,

Gerame

[Eritex Inc.]

Are these the same offset as the 1" Berg Comp Heavies?

Nope, bergs add another .100" width per wheel so .200" over all wider track width compared to the Rock Force wide offset wheels.

those look better i might have to try a set with the .250 wider offset.
maybe i could get some with 3/8" offset and that i think would be perfect! especially since the wheel is only 1" wide.

Berg offsets would get you darn close to what you are looking for.

[binaryterror]

Any way to get just 2 of these in white delrin...

Want to narrow the ass end of the Berg up.

[Eritex Inc.]

Any way to get just 2 of these in white delrin...

Want to narrow the ass end of the Berg up.

No problem, PM me...

[bRIBEGuy]

Looks good.

Did you get my PM?

[Eritex Inc.]

Looks good.

Did you get my PM?

I do not remember, let me look;)

[goobs]

Berg offsets would get you darn close to what you are looking for.

so any of ur wheels that work for the berg would work for me?
if so do the adjustable offset ones work?...i think someone already asked that question.

[Eritex Inc.]

so any of ur wheels that work for the berg would work for me?
if so do the adjustable offset ones work?...i think someone already asked that question.

Yes, and no. The Rock Force specific wheels have a hex pocket specially designed for the stock Rock Force hex and a larger diameter hole for the larger stub axle.

My other wheels will work, you will need to drill the center out and the wheel will not sit against the flange on the back of the hex.

Make sense???

[bRIBEGuy]

Is the wider offset going to be generally available, or is this only a "Custom" thing?

Will you be running the wider set in aluminum?

[goobs]

Yes, and no. The Rock Force specific wheels have a hex pocket specially designed for the stock Rock Force hex and a larger diameter hole for the larger stub axle.

My other wheels will work, you will need to drill the center out and the wheel will not sit against the flange on the back of the hex.

Make sense???

oh ok!
i get'cha

[Bart bender]

Is the wider offset going to be generally available, or is this only a "Custom" thing?

Will you be running the wider set in aluminum?

Like these:shock::D:D:D
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=71&pictureid=237
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=71&pictureid=653

[Eritex Inc.]

Is the wider offset going to be generally available, or is this only a "Custom" thing?

Will you be running the wider set in aluminum?

They will be standard in Delrin and AL.

[bRIBEGuy]

Sounds good.

I'm down for the aluminum ones when you have them ready............

;)

[Eritex Inc.]

Sounds good.

I'm down for the aluminum ones when you have them ready............

;)

I have 2 sets of the AL wide ones sitting on the bench;-)

[bRIBEGuy]

I have 2 sets of the AL wide ones sitting on the bench;-)

Oooooh Oooooh Oooooh Dibs!

:)

Send me the invoice, and I'll send ya some money!

[gimpygolden]

Are these available in the narrow offset? I can't find them on your site

[bRIBEGuy]

PM Sent.