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EeePee

08-30-2005, 11:51 PM

It's hard to read your sentences, and be taken seriously when you mispell the simple words. Pretty incoherent too.

It's just constructive critism, as you seem to want to be a bigwig there, as you were one of two with an avatar, and felt the need to belittle everyone by insisting they were all confused. Not to mention trying to call someone out.

Just my 2 cents, and likely why it isn't really all that funny.

Man, I remember I used to read Car Stereo Review, last mag I looked at one of those some guy just put horns under his dash, had two 10 inch mid basses in his rear deck lid, and two 15s or 18s. Can't remember where the car was built, but it dominated for a long time. Used pro audio type slider 31 band EQs. Can't think of who it was.

Trike Kid

08-30-2005, 11:55 PM

I didn't think it was that great myself.

AdamF

08-30-2005, 11:59 PM

Some people don't read correctly or don't understand, but I explained it at the bottom

I completely understood what you said, I just didn't find any HUMOR in it.

EeePee

08-31-2005, 12:03 AM

I guess I put too much into that then... :flipoff:

TwistedCreations

08-31-2005, 03:35 AM

and this all comming from someone that thinks Pioneer 6.5" 3-way speakers are the best sounding speakers :roll: If your system is the loudest in Oregon, I really feel sorry for the people there then.You probably think those are the best sounding, cause from you still having your rear slider window in and not having it all connected or a walk-through and with that cheap *** cap, you probably hear nothing but a bunch of rattle crap.I would seriously hate to hear it. Talk about needing alot of Dynomat.BUt hey, my first system I ever installed when i was 16 looked like yours, I just wouldn't have been pround enough to post pics like that, then keep talking of how bad *** it is....But ya never know i guess, I thought my 4 pioneer 12's, running off my 2 Orion 2150 amps was bad *** ;-)

bigdogrod

08-31-2005, 04:23 AM

i was kinda confused on the whole cat/ dog thing... and what's up with the "hot dog down the hall"? i got a chuckle out of that tho

as for subs.. i just have a little JL 12w3v2d2 in a stealthox.. powered by a sony 780 bridged mono

bdr

microgoat

08-31-2005, 04:37 AM

guys, when i was a youngun i had a fairly hot (for the 80's) car stereo setup and used to play it loud all the time. now that i'm over 40 i have tinnitus, a very annoying ringing in my ears that never goes away. kind of like having ILRCRC following you around 24/7. it blows.

not preaching, but you thousand-watters will have something to look forward to for sure.

Cake Eater

08-31-2005, 05:40 AM

Some laugh, some don't, but the ones that don't know usually buy $60 Circuit City or Best Buy subwoofers...

This coming from a guy that has a Jensen stereo(with no install kit either).:roll: You can get better stuff than that at Wal-Mart.

FrankyRizzo

08-31-2005, 06:21 AM

The hot dog reference is from "Family Guy". Stewy is sitting next to a hooker and asked if she "still had tread on the tires or was it going to be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway".

now I love the quote, I just don't know what relevance it had to that thread.

bigdogrod

08-31-2005, 06:54 AM

thx franky.. that makes the quote that much funnier now... i'll have to try that one out..

bdr

badhoopty

08-31-2005, 07:34 AM

Man, I remember I used to read Car Stereo Review, last mag I looked at one of those some guy just put horns under his dash, had two 10 inch mid basses in his rear deck lid, and two 15s or 18s. Can't remember where the car was built, but it dominated for a long time. Used pro audio type slider 31 band EQs. Can't think of who it was.

maybe richard clarks grand national? that was the dominant rig in the mid 90's.

badger

08-31-2005, 08:30 AM

It's hard to read your sentences, and be taken seriously when you mispell the simple words. Pretty incoherent too.

That was going to be my comment also.

I feel sorry for anyone who actually looks to Nova for car stereo advice. :lol:

JasonInAugusta

08-31-2005, 09:48 AM

maybe richard clarks grand national? that was the dominant rig in the mid 90's.

Exactly the guy I was thinking of as well.

I had a set of those Audio Control EQTs back in the day...pretty nice stuff.

Those days are long gone, though.

Trailerguy

08-31-2005, 09:51 AM

now that i'm over 40

Man, your over 40, you are old. I read your comment and pictured Billy Madison sitting on the hood of his car blarring REO Speedwagon. :lol:

AdamF

08-31-2005, 09:57 AM

lol...had to post this. It's Nova's avitar over there on that forum....its BEGGING to be chopped!

Sweet mini-mullet by the way! :)

Trailerguy

08-31-2005, 10:38 AM

Not to sound like a total ***, but Nova, according to your profile, you won't turn 16 untell this December. Which means your not even old enough to drive a car, so how could you be bumpin the tunes down at the local burger joint anyways? The only experience you probably have listening to tunes in a car is from the back seat of an older brother/sister, or a friends older brother/sisters car. You probably don't have a job to pay for the stereo equipment so mom or dad picks up the bill, or maybe you just save your christmas money. But hey, I don't really know your situation, so I can't really judge you, this is just the way it seems to me. (I don't sugar coat my thoughts, of course, that could be from living on my own since I was 15, and doing my time in the Marines. It's just easier to comunicate this way.)

Dude in the Gas Prices Thread you mention a Nova that ran for 10 years. That means you were 6 when you started driving. Is your profile screwed up or WTF man?

Trike Kid

08-31-2005, 12:51 PM

This coming from a guy that has a Jensen stereo(with no install kit either).:roll: You can get better stuff than that at Wal-Mart.
I don't know if you can even get that low of quality at Walmart anymore. I don't think the head unit in that truck is even held in by anything more than its own weight. I feel sorry for anyone who takes any of this guy's advice.

badhoopty

08-31-2005, 01:49 PM

Some laugh, some don't, but the ones that don't know usually buy $60 Circuit City or Best Buy subwoofers...

nova's sub of choice.... (http://cgi.ebay.com/1000-WATT-12-COMPETITION-SERIES-SUBWOOFER_W0QQitemZ5803461317QQcategoryZ18803QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

EeePee

08-31-2005, 02:50 PM

maybe richard clarks grand national? that was the dominant rig in the mid 90's.
That's it! He ruled!

JasonInAugusta

08-31-2005, 03:03 PM

You know what I find funny?

When I can take a cheap $60 sub from Best Buy, put it on a cheap Best Buy amp, and have people swear that I'm lying to them when I tell'm that they're listening to factory speakers with a cheap Crunch 75Wx2 amp and a 10" Fosgate from Best Buy.

Some people find it hard to believe that my cheapie system sounds better than the one they've dumped loads into.

If you don't know what you're doing, the best equipment in the world isn't going to help...

EeePee

08-31-2005, 03:14 PM

Okay, I was off with speaker size and locations by just a bit:

The SpeakerWorks Buick was "the winningest car" in IASCA's Pro division, according to Richard Clark. The system featured two 15-inch subwoofers behind the rear seat, and a 12-inch sub in each rear side panel.

Maybe it was:

Harry Kimura sold the car in 1995 to USD Audio, makers of the horns used in the award-winning Acura. USD, which is also owned by the Holdaways, uses it as a demo vehicle for trade shows.

"Yeah, it was kinda hard to sell it. I really liked that car. But it was time to move on to something else," said Kimura. He is now awaiting the completion of a new competition sound system in a 1987 Buick Grand National. The installer? SpeakerWorks, of course.

Either way, legends. The van, the hearse, the CRX, the fishtank Corolla...

http://www.termpro.com/showcars/terminator/ca1096.html

badhoopty

08-31-2005, 03:51 PM

omgf, i soooo remember the fishtank rig. that was when i was REALLY into car audio and read every mag front to back like 20 times. the next rig he built was a dodge pickup that was severely cool.

jia, i agree with you 100%. there isnt much difference between the same brands $100 set of components and thier $400 set besides the bragging rights of saying "I spent 400 bucks on those, dont they sound sweet?" (i learned this the hard way...)

badhoopty

08-31-2005, 04:22 PM

Either way, legends. The van, the hearse, the CRX, the fishtank Corolla...

http://www.termpro.com/showcars/terminator/ca1096.html

maybe its just the mullet man in me, but i'd SO HIT IT. (and not the dude...) http://www.termpro.com/showcars/terminator/images/t01.gif

FrankyRizzo

08-31-2005, 04:30 PM

Are those stirrup pants????? Those were sweet for showing a little clam cleavage.

EeePee

08-31-2005, 04:40 PM

Me too pal. ;)

Dave Rivera is apparently still at it. Just scroll til the pictres. Caution, NASTY car alert!

http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=2281008

SpeakerWorks cars! Oh I found them!

http://www.usdaudio.com/sw/cars/

http://www.usdaudio.com/usd/product/bc-300.jpg

Nova

09-01-2005, 01:47 PM

Please spend the time to read this post that I posted elsewhere:

Let me tell you ****ers something, I don't really cuss at All, but right now I'm freaking pissed....
It's the hardest ****ing thing to try to make a decent install in a TEMPORARY vehicle!! I can't remove the glass seperating the cab, I can't cut holes in the door for a good flush install, I CAN'T EVEN buy an install kit for this truck, so before any of you jackasses tell me my system is crap, FIT IN MY SHOES! When I started here, I couldn't hear any bass from the back, I had a $50 wal-mart head unit, my sound quality was a $10 junker from SHUCKS!! 7 months and $450 later, my stuff is the loudest in southern Oregon without competition, my mids and highs are relativly good, and my head unit looks sweet(Even though it's a Jensen, BUY IT, and just TRY to break this thing) and my install is better than when I came here.

All you doubters, I'm looking for a Bronco as I TYPE! Then we will see a "Crappy" install, which sounds better than any newb can dream of (Before contradicting this remark, you need to listen to it...)
So JUST FREAKING BACK OFF!

Nova

09-01-2005, 01:57 PM

Not to sound like a total ***, but Nova, according to your profile, you won't turn 16 untell this December. Which means your not even old enough to drive a car, so how could you be bumpin the tunes down at the local burger joint anyways?
Dude in the Gas Prices Thread you mention a Nova that ran for 10 years. That means you were 6 when you started driving. Is your profile screwed up or WTF man?

LOL!! This I find funny.

Maybe you didn't read right, the nova has NOT been running in 10+ years, one day, I looked over and thought about driving it some day and we pulled it out because the new house needed permits from the leach field, so my dad pulled it out from beside the garage and didn't see it while backing up one day and crunched the driver side fender. That is the point of which I recieved it, but I can't do anything with it untill other projects are completed.

The closest brother to me is 21, no way would I have heard something from him. My dad has been a Bass Player for 46 years, I spent my life growing up infront of his 18's at the dance hall. so assuming I have no experience is "Incoherent".

And although my mom wont let me do anything I can't take back, she does infact let me bump whenever we go anywhere.

Trailerguy

09-01-2005, 02:31 PM

The closest brother to me is 21, no way would I have heard something from him. My dad has been a Bass Player for 46 years, I spent my life growing up infront of his 18's at the dance hall. so assuming I have no experience is "Incoherent".

I did mention experience in a CAR, not at a DANCE HALL, but a CAR, we (including you) are talking about CAR stereo's, not DANCE HALL sound systems. So you have experiece listening to music, good for you, so does Bon Jovi, but if he installed a CAR stereo, I'm sure he wouldn't say that his is the loudest in Southern New Jersey. I'm saying you don't have enough experience installing and listening to CAR stereo's to make such a overwhelming claim, and to be thinking that only what you say and do is correct. There are plenty of people in Southern Oregon that love to do nothing more than install and compete with CAR stereo's. I would be willing to bet, would even drive from Northern CA to see it, that if you went to a real CAR stereo contest, or cruised on a Sat. night in a town like Medford your loud CAR stereo would not be the loudest. You are young and less experienced than others, trust us older people that are speaking to you on this forum. No one is trying to take away the fact that you have built a great system with what you had to work with, we are just saying, be careful what you claim, because no one is the best, there is always someone better.

Cake Eater

09-01-2005, 02:34 PM

Please spend the time to read this post that I posted elsewhere:

It's just begging to be replied to...

When I started here, I couldn't hear any bass from the back

And now you can hear the bass and the rattle...

I had a $50 wal-mart head unit

Now it's a $70 Walmart-like head unit...

7 months and $450 later, my stuff is the loudest in southern Oregon without competition

a) You got ripped off... b) Loud doesn't mean quality...

my mids and highs are relativly good

Admit it, you know they aren't that good. From what it looks like, you were going for loud bass anyways.

and my head unit looks sweet(Even though it's a Jensen, BUY IT, and just TRY to break this thing)

Compared to a Clarion or Alpine... NO. Even a Pioneer or Sony is nicer.

and my install is better than when I came here.

Maybe so, but it ain't nothing to brag about. "I can put powdered suger on a piece of s***, but in the end it's still a piece of s***."

Nova

09-01-2005, 03:36 PM

Trailerguy: I really respect that you show some positive ways to tell people they aren't the best.

I Thank most for constructive thoughts.

An if! I had the money, my system would contain:

Alpine 9877 (Can't think of it off the top of my head, but it has the finger glider)
Or
An expencive Eclipse head (Just cuz of those 8volt RCA Out's)

Rainbow Front/Mid/ and rear stage components

Orion D-class amplifier for

2 Digital Designs 3515 or 9515 and a sweet box...

How much I WISH I had $2000 to put into this hobby...

(^^^ Excuse my incompetance, I've been having MASSIVE Brain farts...)

Trailerguy

09-01-2005, 04:12 PM

Trailerguy: I really respect that you show some positive ways to tell people they aren't the best.
I Thank most for constructive thoughts.
An if! I had the money, my system would contain:
How much I WISH I had $2000 to put into this hobby...
(^^^ Excuse my incompetance, I've been having MASSIVE Brain farts...)

Thank you, and if you are really serious about the car stereo hobby, then someday you'll have all that stuff. 10 years from now you'll think back about this thread, and think about all the little tricks you learned over the years, and realize what everyone is saying. I'm 27 and my priorities have sure changed throughout the years, and so will yours. Ask anyone, over time things like car stereo's won't hold a candle to what you will want, like your kids 1st bicycle. :)

4X4XFAR

09-02-2005, 01:14 PM

That is very true Trailerguy!

bigdogrod

09-02-2005, 04:10 PM

Ask anyone, over time things like car stereo's won't hold a candle to what you will want, like your kids 1st bicycle

but i don't have kids, so..... more stereo gear for me mwuahahahaha...

jk..

tg is right

bdr

jason

09-02-2005, 04:33 PM

1. Didn't we already have a funny thread ripping on Novas "system" before?

Yes we did, it was one of the funniest threads ever on this site.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10810&highlight=system

2. I got a new sig...

Nova

09-02-2005, 11:31 PM

2. I got a new sig...

It's very true, and my moms favorite song thats on the top 40's list is Fell Good Inc. by Gorillaz... Very very very weird...

Nova

09-02-2005, 11:45 PM

I hate to go over this, but this needs to be stated. DO NOT make assumptions about my system untill you acually hear this thing! Don't stereotype (lol... Ironic...) just because I've made stupid accusations in the past, this is something I know and have spent time to study about. I know if I was smarter 4 months ago, I would have made a better choice, and the ONLY thing wrong about those subs is the fact that the VAS is so high, soooo just build a big box, McDuh. My current pics on the install gallery are not what the semi-final stage of the box looks like; no white crap everywhere (cualking) and there is a third port the equal length of the previous two, before with only 2 ports, it sounded like it was only tuned to ~60hz, with the 3rd port, tuning is now around 35, where I want it, and omg does it sound good... I was at an audioshop today and was pulling out and blasting my stuff and I had to turn the dang Bass Remote down cuz I couldn't hear anything other than. I Almost want to build a smaller box cuz this thing is about the point that it's rude.
Before there are any post to contersink this. No I do not hear the rattle. Yes my front and rear stage are quite loud.

I know I'm gonna bite the dust for this post, but dang I just can't be left with quotations around System signafying that there are non-believers...

AdamF

09-03-2005, 09:02 AM

92on35s

09-04-2005, 09:18 AM

Hey all, this is only my 2nd post here.. and first public one, and i might as well come straight out of the box lookin like a jerk:

nova, that box looks well built, but the port design is gradeschool.. You could get MUCH better performance (spl especially) out of those subs (american pro's?? ..wtf..) with a big inch square port. And with all the room to work with in the back of a pickup i'm sure you can come up with something better than a couple of holes in the front of the box with what i'm assuming is pvc behind them. and a 40 hz tune, that thing MUST sound like hell, i've built many ported boxes, the highest tune being 35 hz, out of a SQ sub and it still sounded like bunghole. (re HC 15" quad .7 ohm vc's, 1500w of power).

And the setup of the subs in the bed w/ a cap on it loud? Yes, but only really to those in the bed.. sure you can open the slider, or drill a hole in the cap, but you're still not gonna get any spl out of it without some kind of solid connection between the cab and the bed. I could go into details, but that would be too much typing and i'm lazy.

If you havent gathered enough from the rest of my message.. i'm calling you out. go get it metered and then tell me what you hit. i was hitting 130's to 140's with my sq L7 box with 1500 watts to that one sub. I doubt you're getting much louder than that with your whole setup, and the crappy layout (spl wise) of the system

I'm no noob when it comes to stereo's, i've gone through so many that i'm ashamed to tell how much i've spent on them, both my time, and my money. I only have a couple pics of boxes i've built if you're doubting me.. a wedge profile ported box for a 12" L7 (fits behind seat of YJ), and a big *** clunky 5.5 cube box for my HC which was my first ported build.

bigdogrod

09-04-2005, 12:33 PM

92on35's:

you sound like you really know what you are talking about... can i ask you a question.. if it dosen't jack this thread..

myer-emco is tellimg me that there'e something wrong with my setup and that's why i'm blowing subs.. jl 12w3v2d2 in stealthbox under the middle seat of my 99 ram qc.. power is a sony 780w bridged mono, kenwood 959 head unit, 2 optima yellow tops, and rockford 1 farad cap, 4 ga wire everywhere

the first sub lasted 3 years running hard, the last one barely lasted 3 weeks, and i didn't even push it that hard.. both sales people (1 time with the orig sub, 1 time with the 1st replacement) told me that there was NO WAY i could blow that sub...

now after the 2nd replacement, they're telling me that there must be something wrong with my setup.. i ask them why the first sub lasted 3 years and all they do is mumble..

another guy i talked to suggested clipping, but the sound doesn't seem to change at high volume levels.. is there a way to tell?

thanks

bdr

Nova

09-04-2005, 12:40 PM

Sales people are lyers, you can blow any sub with the right power and rig-up...

I'm not going to meter it cuz that would be a waste of $25, the box doesn't come close to fitting in the cab, and the window doesn't side out, which is totally wierd cuz S-10's usually had the sliders.

Trust me, I'm looking for a good vehicle, and once I have one, thats gonna be one of my first things I do.

92on35s

09-04-2005, 05:40 PM

is the sony 1 ohm stable?? what config are you wiring the subs? series or paralell?

if you're wired paralell your ohm load will be 1 ohm, and your sony will either blow up, or clip the hell out of your sub. You cant hear clipping, other than a pop every once in a while.. and if it pops.. you've already been clipping it for a long time (sub vc's dont like clipping).

if i were you, i'd run a different amp than the sony (hell, if you've got 2 yellow tops and JL/Rockford equipment you can afford a decent amp).. get an amp that is rated for 3-400w rms @ 4 ohms, and wire your sub series and get a 4 ohm load. (ppi pcx-2125, if you can find that amp on ebay or any place cheap.. BUY IT!! best amp i ever had, ran it at 1.5 ohms for years and it's lowest rating is 4 ohms). Any old kicker zr amps are great, a zr-240 would be plenty for a w3v2, but they're pretty rare, and people hold onto them.

bigdogrod

09-04-2005, 07:18 PM

the sub is wired series, and the amp is at least 4 ohm stable.. i can't find the specs on the dang amp...

what i need for new amps.. (i waat to ditch the xplod 4 channel main amp too) is one that will run upside down.. xtant looks like it might do the job, but that's big money..

my installation is inside the seat and as it's folded down all the time... i'm going to put plexi over it all and have 4 computer fans (2 blowin in at 1 end, 2 blowing out at the other) eventually, but i want to get the right amps first

i guess i'll have to keep the power down.... it's only turned up halfway on the amp, bas boost is under half, and the sub setting on the head unit is usually 3 to 5 out of 15...

is there a meter or something i can get to tell if it's clipping?

bdr

Nova

09-04-2005, 10:48 PM

Even my first amp, POS Thump audio 250w, was no bigger than a graphing calculator and 2 ohm stable, if there is anything "Xplod" in your system besides the head unit, I would fear to leave it alone for more than 5 minutes going for the fear of my car catching fire!

I'll find something, it doesn't have to be till December, so there is plenty of time for the oppertune vehicle.

There is no meter to tell you if there is clipping, if anything, it would be obvious. I wish I could draw here how a clipping signal would be, but I'll try to explain.

If you passed the 6th grade, then you should know what a sound wave looks like, for bass, it's usually a nice, rounded, curvy line, well when clipping is involved, the wave ampriture (Not sure if thats the right word, it's been a while) is increased beyond musical definition and the top of the wave is "Cut off", meaning it should sound like crap.

It might be clipping, but most clipping hurts the amp more than the sub (Even more so that it's Xplod) so it must be the enclosure, and if it's a Bandpass box, that would explain everything.

bigdogrod

09-05-2005, 06:58 AM

aww don't pick on my xplod's... lol they have run upside down inside the rear seat for like 5 years.. and that driving them hard... i've only put the 760 into thermal over load once.. and that was because a girl was sitting on the middle seat and she really wanted to feel the bass because she was going to........

well never mind that story... lol

thanks for the info on clipping, i do understand what the wave looks like.. and i thought that i could hear it, but i guess not

the box is a sealed unit.. i miss my dual 10" band pass... i could rattle stuff on the walls of my friends trak auto from outside.. i can't project that much energy with the stealthbox, but even w/ triple dynamat on the roof and double dynamat everywhere else.. i can still shake the sh*t out of the truck...

the only things in the system xplod are the amps.. headunit is kenwood 959.. (i think that's the number).. it's the top of the line flip face that's not the excelon (didn't like the silver.. wish i had that one's display tho)

i guess i'll try and take it to a shop and see if they can put a scope on it

bdr

JasonInAugusta

09-05-2005, 07:46 AM

if there is anything "Xplod" in your system besides the head unit, I would fear to leave it alone for more than 5 minutes going for the fear of my car catching fire!

If I were you I'd be worried about fires anyway...

http://www.carstereo.com/images/installs/MVC%2D024X%2EJPG

If your speakers are installed (and "mounted") like that, I'd hate to see the wiring on the power side of things. :shock:

Maybe one day you'll hit the brakes, that speaker will fly forward, hit you in the head, and knock some sense into you.

EeePee

09-05-2005, 09:47 AM

thanks for the info on clipping, i do understand what the wave looks like.. and i thought that i could hear it, but i guess not
You CAN hear clipping. And if you can't, you're deaf.

But talking to bass heads is like talking to a brick wall.

No offense... :|

AdamF

09-05-2005, 10:52 AM

If I were you I'd be worried about fires anyway...

.

Yea, for real. How can you even try to defend your low budget setup when your install was completed in 10 minutes?

Nova

09-05-2005, 12:27 PM

Nova

09-05-2005, 12:30 PM

If your speakers are installed (and "mounted") like that, I'd hate to see the wiring on the power side of things. :shock:

How would you mount them????? My reasons:
1. Can't cut holes in the doors, or anywhere for that matter.
2. I don't want them in a box behind the seat cuz then I can't hear the highs.
3. I don't want to spend the time and money making kick-pods, cuz in about a month, there will be nothing in the pickup.

JasonInAugusta

09-05-2005, 02:34 PM

The wires above it are power wires for something, it was there when we got it.

Wow, 2 10" duals hit hard for you?? A senior last year had the 2 12" duals in the bandpass and he couldn't even beat someone with a single MTX! But that was Circuit City installation crap...

Power wires for something?

You're not at all concerned about that? :shock:

As for mounting the 6x9s...at some point you just gotta realize that you can't half-*** your way through stuff and try to talk it up like it's the best thing ever.

As far as Circuit City...take your truck there and they'll laugh your *** outta the bay.

Elway358

09-05-2005, 02:57 PM

LOL, y'all are some funny mofos! :lol: As for Xplod stuff, I have had a pretty decent setup in just about every ride I get, and recently picked up a '89 Cherokee. Didn't wanna pull the stuff outta my S10( Alpine head, 6" JL mid bass and tweets, 2 10" Orions, and 2 RF Punch 60's), so I picked up a nice little Xplod head unit, some Xplod 6inch doors, Xplod 6x9's, and an Xplod 500 watt 4 CH all for a pretty decent amount of cash. Added a pair of JBL 10" tubes and a RF Punch 60 that I had layin' around to that and it's one rockin' little *****. Got the 500 Watt Xplod runnin' the 2 6x9's and the tubes and the Punch 60 runnin the doors.

I haven't had a bit of trouble with the stuff and it has a lot of features to it. 3 RCA outs, Low and high pass filters, Sub level, EQ, Etc. IMO, very good budget equipment....Of course, I guess I could have went high end and picked me up some Jensen stuff :lol: :flipoff:

AdamF

09-05-2005, 03:29 PM

The wires above it are power wires for something, it was there when we got it.

This thread just gets better and better! You keep digging yourself deeper and deeper! :roll: :lol:

92on35s

09-05-2005, 04:09 PM

mmmm pop ice..

(2nd pic from the bottom of elways post)

Elway358

09-05-2005, 04:26 PM

LOL :lol: Gotta love 'em! :D

JasonInAugusta

09-05-2005, 05:34 PM

The single Fosgate 12 in my wife's PT...built this the day after we picked it up at the dealer.

http://www.projecttwin.com/files/pt1.jpg

http://www.projecttwin.com/files/pt2.jpg

Met the sealed space requirements and can still use the table/tray in the low position.

The mounting surface for the sub is elevated off the floor of the cruiser, the sub fires towards the floor.

Works great, sounds great.

AdamF

09-05-2005, 05:48 PM

Here's my kickass system in my 4Runner. (actually i removed it since someone stole my head unit) Consists of 2 $10 RadioShack 10" 2-way truck boxes, held to the roll bar by some big *** hose clamps, and a soundstream lil' wonder amp just sort of sitting there, not bolted down at all! It was the loudest setup in Cincinnati. You could hear it from space! HA! Just kidding, it was one of the worst sounding setups I have ever had, but it was a whole hell of a lot fun to take the top off and blast some music while wheeling, or playing some George Carlin at the campsite by campfire, drunk off your ***!

AdamF

09-05-2005, 05:55 PM

Oh and here's the mp3/dvd/video/gps computer system I had installed in my 96 4Runner. It was kickass, but I sold the truck and never put it back in any other vehicle. Too many theives. :roll:

92on35s

09-05-2005, 06:27 PM

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/494000-494999/494042_4_full.jpg

that's my box i built for behind the seat in the YJ.. I never finished it cause i ripped the whole thing out and sold it, cause my **** was gettin slammed around in the woods.

bigdogrod

09-06-2005, 03:17 PM

adam f:

where did you get that setup? i've been planning the same sort of thing.. there's a place in canada that sells the whole deal for like 2500.. but all i need is the monitor and software, i can handle the rest

i was working with a company in michigan on a 7 inch touch screen.. i even found all the parts in the digi-key catalog for them, but their engineer said that he didn't have time to look at what i picked out

eeepee:

if clipping is audible, what does it sound like... a pause in the bass? that's what i'd guess from the wave.. my subs never sounded different from day 1 until they blew.. i did hear some distortion with the amp and sub level all the way up, but i backed it all down to halfway and it was gone

nova:

my dual 10's were jl, and i had something like 800w to the box... but a bp box projects a lot more sound energy than any other anyways...

a friend of mine had dual fosgate 12's in a bp box, and a punch 250 in the back seat of his cavalier.. it felt like a kid was kicking the seat every time the bass hit.. lol

bdr

Mad Scientist

09-06-2005, 04:32 PM

Am I the only one who is not impressed by audio systems? I'm not trying to put anyone down here - if car audio is your thing, cool. I just don't see the point :?

Elway358

09-06-2005, 04:54 PM

I'm far from obsessed with it, but the "point" to me is that if I'm gonna listen to music, I want it to sound like it's meant to sound. Not like it's coming out of a tin can. Now the guys that put it in just to listen to a buncha freakin rap crap or just to hear nothing but bass, I don't get either...

I don't go near to the extreme with it as when I was younger. I'm more worried about my home system now :)

badhoopty

09-06-2005, 05:28 PM

There is no meter to tell you if there is clipping...

BAN HIM...

there is most definitely a meter to tell if the signal is being clipped, its called an OSCILLOSCOPE.

and a clipped signal is FAR WORSE for the drivers than the amplifier. the amp just passes on the signal info to the driver, and if its a clipped signal that driver will try to reproduce a squared-off wave instead of a nice smooth non-clipped one. just about the only thing that a clipped signal going thru an amp will do is produce heat. and i'd much rather have a hot heatsink on a quality amp than a hot voice coil...

anyway...

i guess i'll have to keep the power down.... it's only turned up halfway on the amp, bas boost is under half, and the sub setting on the head unit is usually 3 to 5 out of 15...

is there a meter or something i can get to tell if it's clipping?

bdr

it may just be me, but i can sure as **** hear when a sub distorts when using test tones, it may not be as easy to notice as a tweeter under a 1khz test tone but if you have a test cd with just test tones you should use that to tune pretty decently. i use bass mechanix, its a pretty good one. a sub can take alot more abuse than a smaller driver like a mid or a tweet, but they will get hot and blow if pushed to hard.

if you want my 2cents, you have everything adjusted the complete opposite way. whatever the specified pre-out voltage is on your headunit, its at that rating when your sub level is at the 'max' setting. by only having it at 3-5 you are asking your amp to produce your desired spl with a waaaaay low pre-out voltage. that in itself is a source of distortion and the reason why head units with high pre-out voltages are desired. also, with that weak signal coming from the deck and being over-amplified you are inducing an unnatural bass boost to it as well. not good.

get a test tone cd like bass mechaniks, turn the amp gain all the way down. turn the head units sub setting to 10 or so, (mine is usually at 12-13) turn bass boost and loudness off, e.q. (if you have one) flat, turn your headunits volume to about 70-75% or whatever you have established as the loudest number you can listen to it at, and then adust the gain on the amp while you play tones within your crossover range. (you didnt mention using a crossover or its settings btw)

after you get the bass mechaniks cd sounding good pop in one of your favorite cds that has alot of low end. by adjusting your amp gain with the head units sub setting at 10 you have allowed a little more voltage to be sent to the amp with cds that have less impact than one with just test tones. you should be able to just dial up the sub level on the deck, play with the e.q./bass-treble controls or enable the loudness feature and have it sound good but you can fudge a little bit and slightly crank the gain up a tad as well.

imho, i would use that bass boost only as a last resort, i would try absolutely everything, including a different amp before i resorted to using bass boost, especially in a vented enclosure.

i guess since everybody else is pimping pics heres one from my install early on. if you know enough to appreciate how damn good of a sound deadening job that is imagine the rest of it being done with the same level of craftsmanship and attention to detail. ;-)

http://pics.montypics.com/badhoopty/2004-12-07/1102479734_fuelpumpmod.jpg

badhoopty

09-06-2005, 05:31 PM

by the way i am far from an expert in car audio, but my rig sounds pretty darn good...

Nova

09-06-2005, 07:30 PM

I'm officially out of this thread, you guys have fun flamin me on the whole thread I've started cuz now I wont post in it again. No one knows my situation, and no one seems to listen to anything I've stated. You cock lickers have finally made me feal bad for even being a part of this website, infact, I am suprised there is this many people here on a daily basis due to the fact no one wants to spend time thinking instead of posting withing the first 2 seconds.
Not only that, but when I was banned from the classifieds, I had a specific Private Message that said that I'll be out of there a while, not 3 months. Just needing to get it off my shoulders...

AdamF

09-06-2005, 09:26 PM

When your a few years older you will understand. Untill then, have a nice life.

Cake Eater

09-07-2005, 05:04 AM

Awwwww... Here you go.

http://www.kleenex.com/us/

EeePee

09-07-2005, 05:55 AM

eeepee:
i did hear some distortion with the amp and sub level all the way up, but i backed it all down to halfway and it was gone

That's it. Gotta make sure your input level is matched to your head's output too.

Bad Hoopty pretty explained it all, actually.

bigdogrod

09-07-2005, 07:34 AM

thanks for the help guys.. i don't mean to jack this thread...

so i shouldn't use the sub level to control the volume of the sub? the only reason why i ask is that i listen to morning drive time radio and it sounds like crap with the sub up.. so my setting is like at -1 or -2 in the morning, then when it's time to switch to radio.. ( satellite not fm ), i turn the sub level back up to 4 or 5.. and on amps (rockford ?) that have the external knob that controls the level.. isn't that the same thing i'm doing?

then if a punk with a bazooka tube (no offense) and a stock system pulls up next to me thinking he's thumping.. i'll turn the level up to 10.. but it makes my eyes hurt from the vibration after a little while, so it goes back down to 4

this is all with the amp gain set at half, it does have a bass boost feature which is at half too

on the headunit: loudness control is on, crossover settings are sub lpf: 60 (lowest it can go), f/r lpf: thru f/r hpf: thru (the main amp and eq take care of that)

i'm just curious as to why i pounded the crap out of the original 12w3 for years, but the v2 died almost instantly.. i thought it might have been wired backwards, but it still sounded good, and when i checked the wiring, it was fine..

bdr

EeePee

09-07-2005, 07:43 AM

The bass boost, and loudness are KILLING it.

Loudness is for low volume listening only. It's used to overcome the ears natural tendency to hear midrange tones better. So they boost the low and high tones to try and match the midrange. Again, only at low volumes.

badhoopty

09-07-2005, 08:17 AM

wait, if its a remote amplifier gain thats a little different than bass boost.

maybe i didnt read well enough on your setup, but if you have a remote gain on your amp that you control from the drivers seat, i would max-out your headunits sub-volume control and use the remote gain adjustment to control sub volume. that way the amp is recieving the highest voltage possible at all times from the rca's coming from the deck.

the sub level control feature that alot of head units have is a little misleading. really, you would want the strongest signal coming from the deck to the amp as possible at all times.

like i said, i am far from an expert on car audio. but if you have your head units sub volume control set at a very low setting and then try to compensate for the lack of output by turning the amps gain up that will create a heck of alot more distortion than if you had your head units sub volume at its max and have the amps gain set at a lower setting.

badhoopty

09-07-2005, 08:31 AM

i should really read posts before i make comments....

ok, has any settings changed since the previous sub (the one that lasted 3 years)?

if nothing has changed i'd be willing to bet you probably got a junk sub or the amp has developed issues.

but to answer your question, the head units sub volume is not the same as the amps gain in regards to output. the better (stronger & cleaner) signal your amp recieves from the head unit the more the amp has to work with. if you barely give the amp any signal from the h.u., then you have to turn the gain on the amp higher and the amp has to work alot harder to produce the same spl and it will be alot more junky a signal.

i would just try maxing out your headunits sub-level and then turn the gain on the amp all the way down, put in a cd you know hits real good and dial the gain up. leave the loudness off while tuning, and if you have it cranked and feel it needs more put it on and if you like it keep it on.

again, i aint no expert. i just know what i know from asking alot of people and tweaking my system.