Xtant's 2010 '09 Comp Rig

[Xtant3150c]

Well as I stated in my Axial build thread I am usually a little behind the times so I figured I would try and catch up with this build ;-)

Having watched some very impressive MOA setups dominate the HRCC and then see quite a few more added this season I figured it was the way to go.

The RC4WD Bully's always looked impressive but then seeing some of the issues with the early production runs I was hesitant?

I looked at Berg's but I guess the timing just was'nt right as I had other R/C's to spend money on :-P

Anyways after reading about the Bully's V3 axles being a good improvement over the previous versions I decided to make the leap and order a set of Bully Axle's "thumbsup"

Took around 2 weeks to get them in :shock: But they do say Note: This is a special product #, please allow 4-8 business days to ship your order.

I think the packaging must take atleast a day :shock::lol:

[run2jeepn]

Ya thats is one thing RC4wd does very well. They pack everything like that...:) Took me 30min to run warp my wheels yesterday...

[Xtant3150c]

First thoughts were that they feel Solid! Next was that they look even better in person ;-)

Original plan was to use the 2.2 Hustler I recently got from my Buddy Ronbeck "thumbsup" After getting some links made and mocking things up it was clear that I was not going to be able to use the Hustler :-(

Gearboxes are just a bit to wide ;-):lol:

[Xtant3150c]

Ya thats is one thing RC4wd does very well. They pack everything like that...:) Took me 30min to run warp my wheels yesterday...

Yah the only other thing I had bought from them before this were some 1.9 MudSlingers and they were no where near packed this well :lol:

So I was going to use my MFM Black Widow :?: But had some concerns about it being a little to narrow:?: Went looking in the For Sale section and came across a KK 3.5 being sold by Desert Rc. PM'ed him but I was to late as he sold it already. But lucked out as he had a KK 4.0 so I picked that up from him! ThanX Again!

I did'nt have any 4" shocks so used the stock Axials to mock things up when I got the KK 4.0 in.

Link and shock clearance is at minimum with these axles ;-)

[Da Hermit]

Wow, sounds like you have a collection of chassis stashed in your tool box. Good thing IMO"thumbsup".

The 4.0 looks the better though. I am rooting for that build.8)

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

Lookin good X. Loos even better in person. I was surprised how stout the bully's look.

[Mudman]

sweet! I've been looking at the Bully's for a while as well...

When will the rig be finished? "thumbsup"

Oh what's the belly height as is?

[Xtant3150c]

Wow, sounds like you have a collection of chassis stashed in your tool box. Good thing IMO"thumbsup".

The 4.0 looks the better though. I am rooting for that build.8)

ThanX Hermit 8) the KK 4.0 has won the right to be "The Chassis" for the Bully's "thumbsup"

Lookin good X. Loos even better in person. I was surprised how stout the bully's look.

ThanX DtP 8) Have to agree even after looking at pics and other Bully builds I was also surprised when I got them in my hands :!:

sweet! I've been looking at the Bully's for a while as well...

When will the rig be finished? "thumbsup"

Oh what's the belly height as is?

I think with the V3's XVD's and now that the V4's are coming out (or out already) as well at the Titanium ones, the Bully's look to be a pretty good contender in the MOA market IMO ;-)

It is closer to be finished then this build thread is showing so far :shock::?:;-):lol:

I think the ride height with the Axial shocks was around 3.5"s or so? In it's current setup it is a little low at 2.5"s. I need to try and find some springs to get it around 3.0"s.

I picked up some Ace's Donuts (Mahalo's Rizzo) and also bought some Proline G8 Chisels. Had them before I had the Bully's :-P Man these things are Bumbucha's :shock::lol: They are mounted on Proline 8-Shooters. They were chrome with silver rings but I painted them flat black.

[U DOWN]

Awesome build John"thumbsup"

[JoeWorks]

Looken good my friend.. Can't wait to see it ready for comp.. I should still be around in 2010..hehe

Shoots..

[Xtant3150c]

Awesome build John"thumbsup"

ThanX Jon 8)

Looken good my friend.. Can't wait to see it ready for comp.. I should still be around in 2010..hehe

Shoots..

ThanX Joe 8)

Yah hopefully it will be done on time :shock:;-)

[SicksAreR]

Looking good, but you could use some eritex beadlocks!;-)

[Xtant3150c]

Looking good, but you could use some eritex beadlocks!;-)

ThanX SAR 8)

Which ones you get again :?:

Let Me Know when and where ;-)

[Mudman]

lol man you've always got some crazy builds! "thumbsup"

[dano104]

I'm jealous!

[Da Hermit]

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=99197&stc=1&d=1240557997

Once you go Big and Black, You will never go back:shock::ror:.

The larger tires will complement your BULLY for sure.

[Xtant3150c]

Once you go Big and Black, You will never go back:shock::ror:.

The larger tires will complement your BULLY for sure.

Oh No He Did'nt :roll: :shock: :-P :ror:

Figured most of the MOA setups I have seen have been running the newer, bigger tires so it must be the way 2 go "thumbsup"

Got the Bully's mounted up with the KK 4.0. After checking out Kamikaze's '09 Komp Rig Build Thread

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1700483&postcount=319

I was glad to see that I would be able to use my REVO GTR's ;-) It's a pretty tight fit but nothing is rubbing to bad to cause any issues so far?

Weather is not cooperating :x but going to try and get it wired up today just so I can run it around the house :lol: Still need to see if my micro servo works then try and setup the dig switches?

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

Still need to see if my micro servo works then try and setup the dig switches?
I got some RS switches wired & CA'd to a 225 servo if you want it.

[SicksAreR]

ThanX SAR 8)

Which ones you get again :?:

Let Me Know when and where ;-)

These are the ones I have


http://eritexinc.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12_4&products_id=11

Maybe we can trade stuff. I'm trying to put together a drifter but need some electrics. LMK"thumbsup"

[Xtant3150c]

I got some RS switches wired & CA'd to a 225 servo if you want it.

ThanX for the offer Sheldon. I'll let you know if my stuff does'nt work out for me. :fingersx:
These are the ones I have


http://eritexinc.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12_4&products_id=11

Maybe we can trade stuff. I'm trying to put together a drifter but need some electrics. LMK"thumbsup"

Ah o.k. those Eritek's.

Wish I could say I had something to trade but I don't :-(

Got electronics mounted up. No dig switches but just wanted to see this thing move a little :lol:

Made some gearcase skids out of some flexible cutting board and 3m Double sided tape. We'll see how well they hold up once I get to run it outside?

So setup so far is

Bully Axle's
Kamikaze Kustoms KK 4.0 Chassis (med. front links/ high rear links)
Traxxas REVO GTR shocks
Proline 8-Shooters (6oz. front/ 4.oz rear)
Proline G8 Chisels w/ Ace's Donuts
Hitec 5955tg
Tekin FX-R
Castle Creations BEC
Integy 55t lathes
Hyperion 3S 1500mah LiPo
Spektrum DX3R w/SR3500

[Da Hermit]

I like how your eectro's just fit right in there. If you think your behind in times, I would have never thought any thing smaller than the sidwinder would work for an esc.

Nice work X, And no worries, Da news man said the rain Pau. But we(hilo) still get um for the next four days or so.

[Sprint 80]

Nice job on the build Xtant! Can't wait to see this one on the rocks. 8)

[Xtant3150c]

I like how your eectro's just fit right in there. If you think your behind in times, I would have never thought any thing smaller than the sidwinder would work for an esc.

Nice work X, And no worries, Da news man said the rain Pau. But we(hilo) still get um for the next four days or so.

Mahalo's Hermit 8) I was thinking Sidewinder myself as I wanted to pick up a 2nd esc and it is cheaper ;-):lol: But reading up that the FX-R will handle to 35t on 3S with the firmware upgrade made it a good choice for me.

If it was Guy Hagi you was watching I know trust that guy for nothin' :-P:lol:

Nice job on the build Xtant! Can't wait to see this one on the rocks. 8)

ThanX Alan 8)

Hoping to make the next comp? If not the 2nd one in May most likely.

[Da Hermit]

Mahalo's Hermit 8) I was thinking Sidewinder myself as I wanted to pick up a 2nd esc and it is cheaper ;-):lol: But reading up that the FX-R will handle to 35t on 3S with the firmware upgrade made it a good choice for me.

If it was Guy Hagi you was watching I know trust that guy for nothin' :-P:lol:





Screw Guy, I was thinking more Wahine......MMM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/3122425586_bd5f06a1ea.jpg?v=0
:lol::lol:"thumbsup""thumbsup"

[Xtant3150c]

Nice ;-)

But I get up extra early in the morning for Amber "thumbsup" :lol:

[Xtant3150c]

Well wife decided not to go out today :shock:

So I got to messing around with the dig switch setup 8)

Used run2jeepn's diagram (last pic in post)

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1745259&postcount=101

Was surprised that my Cheapo Soldering Iron was able to do the job without killing anything! :-(:lol:

The Hitec hs-55 I had works but it has a bit of sticking to it? It does'nt seem to be causing any issues as of yet?

I did change how I wired the motors up from how run2jeepn did his. He mentioned the rear motor was engaging before the front motor in his wiring setup so I did mine so the front motor was wired how he did his rear motor and the rear like his front.

Everything works (minus the small servo issue) It does seem like my rear motor goes faster then the front does? Could it be simply because the negative from the esc goes direct to the front motor? If so should I change to wire the negative from the esc to the rear motor so that the front goes faster?

Sorry no pics yet of the dig setup :-P

Here's some inspired by run2jeepn's pics ;-)
EDIT: Oh and his are better as his was with a ready to run rig :!:

[run2jeepn]

Looks good. My problem I had was with the front motor. It had one too many shims in it. I tore it apart and took one shim out. works perfect now. The stall had nothing to do with the wiring it was all in the motor itself.

Might try switching your Motors front to rear. Then if your stalling moves with that motor. You know it's not your wiring and you just narrowed it down to the Motor. I had an extra motor and switched mine out. Which fixed. Thats when I tore into mine and removed a Shim.

Nice pic's...:) Now add both Motors, a 3 cell Lipo, a Steering Servo, two Switches, a dig Servo, ESC and the RX.....

This has got to be the stupidest thing...:)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/run2jeepn/DSCF2963.jpg

[Xtant3150c]

Mahalo's for the info on the motors!

I'll try swapping them and see what happens. Might just be in my head?hehehe

Thanks for posting that your rig was fully loaded! I Edited my previous post to mention that as I forgot to originally.

I'll give it another try when mine is ready to go ;-)

Anyone have suggestions on a good gear lube?

[run2jeepn]

Gear Lube...
http://www.jpcustomrcs.com/catalog/item/4970877/6381360.htm

[Xtant3150c]

Gear Lube...
http://www.jpcustomrcs.com/catalog/item/4970877/6381360.htm

Kewl:!:

Mahalo's I'll be getting some as soon as possible "thumbsup"

[Mudman]

wow that looks like it would sidehill really well... "thumbsup"

[Xtant3150c]

wow that looks like it would sidehill really well... "thumbsup"

If you are talking about run2jeepn's rig I would have to agree ;-) as is is ready to run. If your talking about mine I would say maybe :?: :lol: as mine is empty :-P

Swapped the motors front to back and then found out that the motors are running the same. The cause for the difference in speed was the wheel/tire combo as the fronts are heavier then the rears. With the tires off the axles are turning at the same rate. The only issue now is that the rear axle did'nt seem to come with as much lube on them as the fronts did. This will be fixed as soon as I can get some lube ;-)

Hope to get it out on the rocks sometime this week? Next Comp is this coming Sunday already :shock: And I would like to change my habit of taking a new rig that has never been run to a Comp :roll::lol:

Pics of dig/electronics setup. Nothing to brag about but it works and isn't to bad "thumbsup"

[Mudman]

great setup Xtant! looks like a solid rig to me. I thought my widow could do what yours is doing, but as soon as I put electronics and a battery in it- the truck just tips over... haha

How is that dig switch held in place? I don't see any screws holding it down. "thumbsup"

[Da Hermit]

No mo rain but the wife stay home, SAME as if stay raining.:lol: JK, fo real.....


As long as you go to the comp. with a Dirty/Dusty truck, then you tested enough IMO.

BTW,your truck looks B-E-A-utiful"thumbsup". May I suggest a chrome body?;-)

[SicksAreR]

Looking good X. So you gonna bring it out this sunday? Wanna meet up before then so you can pick up some beadlocks?:)

[Xtant3150c]

great setup Xtant! looks like a solid rig to me. I thought my widow could do what yours is doing, but as soon as I put electronics and a battery in it- the truck just tips over... haha

How is that dig switch held in place? I don't see any screws holding it down. "thumbsup"

ThanX Man 8) It's a nice pose for pics but have'nt seen any rig drive on it's side like that ;-)

The plate the switches are on is a pretty tight fit between the chassis plate so I just used a couple of zipties to hold it a little more secure. So far so good :fingersx:

No mo rain but the wife say home, SAME as if say raining.:lol: JK, fo real.....


As long as you go to the comp. with a Dirty/Dusty truck, then you tested enough IMO.

BTW,your truck looks B-E-A-utiful"thumbsup". May I suggest a chrome body?;-)

Yah pretty much :lol:
Well Dirty and Dusty would be good. The last 3 rigs I comped with were'nt dirty or dusty :-(

And Big Mahalo's :) Hmm Chrome Maybe like this..... Pic Below VVV

Looking good X. So you gonna bring it out this sunday? Wanna meet up before then so you can pick up some beadlocks?:)

ThanX 8)

When and Where is a good time for you :?:

[cutlaSS]

WOW. Comin out hard for 09. Well, the second half anyway. Can't wait to see it on Sunday.

[fperez0209]

package looks like it came thru colombia lol .great looking build good luck with it "thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"

[Xtant3150c]

WOW. Comin out hard for 09. Well, the second half anyway. Can't wait to see it on Sunday.

Nah not Comin' Hard ;-) Just got lucky and was in the right place at the right time 8) Now there is less stuff (possibly) for me to blame (besides myself) for going wrong :shock::-P:lol: Yah still hoping to come out more often then not.

package looks like it came thru colombia lol .great looking build good luck with it "thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"

Yah it was packed rather well ;-)

Well it finally got it's first run on the rocks today :) 8) "thumbsup"

It ran great and made some lines that I could'nt do with my other shafty rigs. And made some that the shafty's could but a little easier.

The Proline G8 Chisels and Ace's Donut's worked great to! They had great forward and side bite. And they sidehilled pretty good too!

The KK 4.0 with the GTR's worked better then I expected. I knew the KK 4.0 would work but was'nt sure how the GTR's would work with it. It could use a little more flex (need to get some JATO tan,orange or yellow? springs) But again it worked good.

Got my first experience with "Clod Stall" :roll::lol: It can throw you off a little but overall I don't think it will bother me to much :?:

I was glad to see the 55t lathes still had some pretty good wheelspeed. Ofcourse you always want more right ;-)

Sorry only go poser pics as I was to busy having fun running it :!:

[Da Hermit]

Yah pretty much :lol:
Well Dirty and Dusty would be good. The last 3 rigs I comped with were'nt dirty or dusty :-(

And Big Mahalo's :) Hmm Chrome Maybe like this..... Pic Below VVV



Oh yeah, Do it man"thumbsup".

[danielk]

Need me a daily dose of Robin Meade.
http://jmbell.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/robin_meade1.jpg

[Xtant3150c]

When did this turn into the Weather Girl Thread :roll::-P:lol:

Now back to our regularly scheduled build thread :arrow:

[Sprint 80]

Looks like the rig is ready!
Hope you can make it Sunday. 8)

[Xtant3150c]

Looks like the rig is ready!
Hope you can make it Sunday. 8)


Yup All Systems Are A Go :) "thumbsup"

C'Y'All in 8 hours :shock::lol:;-)

[Xtant3150c]

Had my first comp with the Bully's yesterday!

Truck ran good! The driver on the other hand was a little iffy :shock::roll::lol:

1st course was brutal :shock: 2nd course was challenging but realistic ;-) If not for a couple of fuzzy tennis ball halves I would have done better :-P :ror:

My personal goal was to make the Top 10 as that would allow me to run the final course and I did with a 4 way tie for 8th. But they ran only the Top 6 in the Finals :arrow:

The Bully's performed great though! No breakage or even loose screws (yup I did'nt thread lock everything yet :-P ) Got in a couple of binds and was able to power out of them with no issues.

Overall the Bully's/KK4.0 ran well. And had a great time haning out and crawling with the HRCC Crew 8)"thumbsup"

Going to drill out the GTR shock pistons to free them up a bit. Hoping this will allow me to still run the springs that I have now? Need to pick up some springs and brushes for the 55t motors.

Oh and I picked up a set of Eritex adjustable off-set wheels from SicksAreR "thumbsup" Running them in wide off-set in the front and a narrow off-set in the rear. I mounted the center hub behind the wheel mounting area so that they were a little wider then the narrow off-set as that was to narrow for the Bully's.

Sorry but no pics from the Comp. Was a little under the weather and out of it :lol:

[Xtant3150c]

Got the pistons drilled out, but have'nt been able to get softer springs yet.

Took it out for a short run today and found out fast that I now need to run a heavier oil :shock::lol:

The shocks felt pretty good on the workbench, but out on the rocks they were just to soft. In a bind the truck would flop around like a stock Axial :shock::lol:

The truck did'nt run as good as it did at the comp but I think a thicker oil should get it back in shape.

One issue that came up today was that the adjustment collar on the front shocks are being adjusted by the front tires :shock::lol: This was only an issue today because I ran the collars higher up on the shocks (have the top mounted on the axle and bottom on the chassis) with the drilled out pistons and softer feeling shocks I wanted to see if I could get a little higher center clearance. This put the collars in just the right spot I guess for the tires to turn them when ever they made contact.

I ended up putting the collars back to the highest position so this would'nt be an issue. But I'll have to figure something out once I change springs.

I am not sure if I like running wheels with breather holes? I never did this before and never felt that it was an issue for the tires/foams I ran before. I ran them this way at the comp and they worked o.k. but seem to get bound up to easy in situations that did'nt look like they would be a problem?

I may try and plug the holes in the Eritex's so I can see how the Chisel's will work this way?

Still need to pickup some loctite :shock: But did'nt have any issues at the Comp and today only a king-pin screw came out. And this screw was loctite!:roll::lol:
I did read another thread that had an issue with the king-pin screw coming loose or the hole being stripped out but can't remember if it was an issue with the axle housing or not?

Anyways I'll get some loctite this week and get things tightened up.

[fvrr]

Nice build. I was going to get the bully roller but bought a roller 1/8 buggy. What was the tube chassis you had on the front page? I'm looking for one for the ax10 I have.

[Xtant3150c]

Nice build. I was going to get the bully roller but bought a roller 1/8 buggy. What was the tube chassis you had on the front page? I'm looking for one for the ax10 I have.

ThanX 8)

That tube chassis is the 2.2 Hustler from RCP. It was originally made for TLT axle's I believe? A little hard to find these days it seems?

RCP does make the Bastard Jr. tube chassis which is a direct bolt on for the AX10 "thumbsup"

[fvrr]

ThanX 8)

That tube chassis is the 2.2 Hustler from RCP. It was originally made for TLT axle's I believe? A little hard to find these days it seems?

RCP does make the Bastard Jr. tube chassis which is a direct bolt on for the AX10 "thumbsup"

Right on, I thought I bookmarked rcp's site for their tuber but didn't. Will check lhs one more time before ordering one. I'm getting another ax10 in trade today :roll: Never anything I really want

[Xtant3150c]

Hustler 2.2
http://www.rcpcrawlers.com/product.php?productid=795&cat=0&page=1&featured

Bastard Jr.
http://www.rcpcrawlers.com/product.php?productid=1254&cat=0&page=1&featured

Some Nice Bastard Jr. Builds in the Axial AX-10 section
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/search.php?searchid=535948

[hitman46mod]

Nice build. Those GTR shock work awesome don't they.;-)

[madmax22]

nice lookin' truck man! You need a new soldering iron:-P...


If im going to build a comp. crawler. I would go with the Bastard Jr., just from what I have seen on the tube with those puppies."thumbsup" Again sick truck! And are you keeping that red white and blue body? Because I think a gunmetal grey or that chrome you posted would look SICK on it!

[Xtant3150c]

Nice build. Those GTR shock work awesome don't they.;-)

Yah I love the GTR shocks ;-) I am probably going to try the ball end shock cap mod on them to get a little more length and clearance for them.

Drilling the pistons out really helped their movement but now I need to get some thicker oil and softer springs :roll::lol:

nice lookin' truck man! You need a new soldering iron:-P...


If im going to build a comp. crawler. I would go with the Bastard Jr., just from what I have seen on the tube with those puppies."thumbsup" Again sick truck! And are you keeping that red white and blue body? Because I think a gunmetal grey or that chrome you posted would look SICK on it!

:lol: I needed a new soldering iron about 3 years ago :-P A Punk R/C dig switch would help clean things up :idea::arrow:

The body is red and blue :roll::lol:

I will probably pick up a new lid sooner rather then later:?: But it's not high on the must do list at this time.

And Big Mahalo's to Badger and Jason for making a RC4WD Bully Section 8)"thumbsup"

[SicksAreR]

Get the punk dig switch. Really cleans up the wiring and just good peice of mind that a switch won't burn out. I just wired mine and I love it.

[Xtant3150c]

Get the punk dig switch. Really cleans up the wiring and just good peice of mind that a switch won't burn out. I just wired mine and I love it.

Kewl to hear you got yours already.

I sold off my DNA dig so I should be ordering a Punk R/C Dig Switch soon "thumbsup"

[Buggy Master]

nice build xtant. hope to see it in action on day...

[Xtant3150c]

nice build xtant. hope to see it in action on day...

Mahalo's Buggy Master 8)

Be kewl to see you out at a Crawler Comp or 2 "thumbsup"

[Buggy Master]

Mahalo's Buggy Master 8)

Be kewl to see you out at a Crawler Comp or 2 "thumbsup"

just to watch;-)

[Xtant3150c]

just to watch;-)

Aw C'mon Losi's 2.2 Comp Crawler is coming out soon ;-)

Sadly have not had much time to run the Bully lately :-(

But figured I would post some pics of the Eritek Adjustable Off-Set Wheels I got from SicksAreR 8)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6691/eritek1.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2696/eritek2.jpg

And also picked up a Punk R/C Dig Unit 8)

Love the Envelope ;-)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9569/punkdig1.jpg

Very Nicely packaged. Looking forward to getting it installed :)
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4280/punkdig2.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6273/punkdig3.jpg

Hope to pick up some Jato springs this week? And looking to pick up a new body as well.

[csagaz]

awesome build xtant"thumbsup"

[Xtant3150c]

awesome build xtant"thumbsup"

Mahalo's 8)

Mahalo's to UnKo Alan for updating my Tekin FXR today "thumbsup"

Also picked up some softer JATO springs finally :lol:

And a Proline Bug Body 8) Had hoped it would'nt need much cutting:?: But does'nt look like it is going to work out that way :roll::lol:

Still need to wire up the Punk R/C Dig and put on the new springs. Hopefully I can get some runtime this week?

[Xtant3150c]

Got the Proline Bug Body mounted yesterday 8) I really don't understand why Proline even puts the fenders on it :? I don't see any way to actually run the body with the fenders on without it being Jacked Up in the air :roll:

Also got the Punk R/C dig switch mounted and wired up "thumbsup" Really cleaned up the wiring.

Hope to get the body painted and get it out on the rocks this week :?:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5048/bullybug2.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8027/bullybug3o.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1051/bullybug4.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7637/bullybug5.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5928/bullybug7.jpg

[keala]

howzit x, let us know how the punk dig switch works for you. i'm considering getting one for my bully rig. aloha

[Xtant3150c]

howzit x, let us know how the punk dig switch works for you. i'm considering getting one for my bully rig. aloha

Sup

Will do!

Still hoping to take it out this week? Had to pick up a new pair of Chisels so that I can run it :roll:

I believe SicksAreR has a Punk Dig Switch also?

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

howzit x, let us know how the punk dig switch works for you. i'm considering getting one for my bully rig. aloha
I know 2 others with them. They both worked flawlessly on sunday.

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

Sup

Will do!

Still hoping to take it out this week? Had to pick up a new pair of Chisels so that I can run it :roll:

I believe SicksAreR has a Punk Dig Switch also?
Why new tires? did something happen to the others?

[Xtant3150c]

Why new tires? did something happen to the others?

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1821463&postcount=1

I guess I lucked out that it was only 1 tire.

[Xtant3150c]

I know 2 others with them. They both worked flawlessly on sunday.

Good to Hear "thumbsup"

[U DOWN]

lookin good John"thumbsup"

[SicksAreR]

Sup

Will do!

Still hoping to take it out this week? Had to pick up a new pair of Chisels so that I can run it :roll:

I believe SicksAreR has a Punk Dig Switch also?

Todd and I have the punk switch. It performed flawlessly without even a hiccup. I love that the switch over is pretty much instant and the reliability factor is a great bonus too!:mrgreen:

[Xtant3150c]

Todd and I have the punk switch. It performed flawlessly without even a hiccup. I love that the switch over is pretty much instant and the reliability factor is a great bonus too!:mrgreen:

Kewl! Good to Hear "thumbsup"

[keala]

Todd and I have the punk switch. It performed flawlessly without even a hiccup. I love that the switch over is pretty much instant and the reliability factor is a great bonus too!:mrgreen:

nice, i guess i need to order mine already. my soldering skills aren't that great right now. i tried to bring my bully out on memorial day, not even 5 feet and my front motor wire came off at the motor. LOL!! at least my dig switched are still kicking. at least it will clean up the wiring a bit too. aloha

[Xtant3150c]

Finally got my Bully/KK4.0 out on the rocks today!

First run with the Punk R/C and it worked flawlessly as others have said! Was alot easier, faster and smoother switching between dig and 4wd!

Will post some pics and more a little later "thumbsup"

[Xtant3150c]

O.K. here is a little more from the run today.

I could'nt find any 100wt. oil locally so I decided to try and mix some 5000wt. diff lube and the 30wt. oil in the shocks. I went with a 50/50 blend. The softer JATO springs (yellow/orange) work alot better then the JATO blues I had been running. The shocks felt good with the oil blend but they still felt to move a little to quickly? I think I may try running just 5000wt.?

Truck made a couple of climbs a little easier then it was with the previous setup.

The Bug body definately had more clearance then the Rockstar. I was'nt sure if I was going to like the look of it on the Rocks but after today I do ;-)

Overall was a good 30 minutes of running the rig and still finding myself smiling while driving it "thumbsup"

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5474/bullybug11.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5691/bullybug12.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6324/bullybug13.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8435/bullybug14.jpg
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2282/bullybug15.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5337/bullybug16.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/895/bullybug17.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6467/bullybug18.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5738/bullybug19.jpg

[Jeepial]

Awesome build Xtant....Looks awesome.....How do like the overall performace of those traxxas shocks?Have you tried running the pink Jato springs?I think those are the softest ones that they have for those shocks..Keep up the good work on your build..Get some video too..8)

[Xtant3150c]

Awesome build Xtant....Looks awesome.....How do like the overall performace of those traxxas shocks?Have you tried running the pink Jato springs?I think those are the softest ones that they have for those shocks..Keep up the good work on your build..Get some video too..8)

ThanX "thumbsup"

I love the Traxxas GTR shocks :!: I have run them in a bunch of different rigs (K2-3L w/TLT's, MFM Black Widow w/TLT's & Axial's and Hustler w/TLT's) and they have performed very good everytime.

Drilling out the pistons really freed their movement up thus the need for a thicker oil now.

The Pink springs are actually the 2nd stiffest springs. The Yellow's are the softest and Orange is the 2nd softest. I actually used the Blue's (stiffest springs) on the rigs I listed above and they worked good but I like them better with the softer springs now.

Yah I need to try and get some video of this thing.

[69CrazyHorse]

Great build I am currently starting on my own KK4.0/bully build. What rod ends and metal standoffs are you using to connect your lower links to the axles?

[Xtant3150c]

Great build I am currently starting on my own KK4.0/bully build. What rod ends and metal standoffs are you using to connect your lower links to the axles?

ThanX

The rod ends are REVO's

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHGB7&P=7

The standoffs are from the AX-10

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXTHZ4&P=7

I got a pm from someone asking about the upper links. The fronts are 4 3/4" eye to eye and the rears are 5 1/4" eye to eye. The rears have about a 1/2" - 5/8" bend in them the bend starts at 2 1/4" from the eye of the rod end. Sorry but I did'nt measure the links before doing the bend :oops: :lol:

[69CrazyHorse]

ThanX

The rod ends are REVO's

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHGB7&P=7

The standoffs are from the AX-10

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXTHZ4&P=7

I got a pm from someone asking about the upper links. The fronts are 4 3/4" eye to eye and the rears are 5 1/4" eye to eye. The rears have about a 1/2" - 5/8" bend in them the bend starts at 2 1/4" from the eye of the rod end. Sorry but I did'nt measure the links before doing the bend :oops: :lol:

A couple more questions. On your lower links you have a standoff on those also that appears to be metal. Is it just an extra revo rod end swivel ball?

I see that you used the Axial chassis cross bars. Is your chassis bent outward at the top? The reason I ask is because the skid is 51MM and the axial cross bar is 56mm when I mocked that up the cross bars were to wide for the KK chassis.

Thanks for your help

[Jeepial]

Hey,what's your ground clearance at with the 3.5" shocks on the 4.0 chassis?

[Xtant3150c]

Hey,what's your ground clearance at with the 3.5" shocks on the 4.0 chassis?

It is at 2 7/8"

A couple more questions. On your lower links you have a standoff on those also that appears to be metal. Is it just an extra revo rod end swivel ball?

I see that you used the Axial chassis cross bars. Is your chassis bent outward at the top? The reason I ask is because the skid is 51MM and the axial cross bar is 56mm when I mocked that up the cross bars were to wide for the KK chassis.

Thanks for your help

Yes the stand off on the lower link axle mount is a REVO ball stud. You could use the same 5mm Axial spacer I used for the lower shock mount or use REVO ball studs for both the link and shock mounts.

Yes the chassis is only about 2mm wider at the cross braces compared to the center/skid area. Atleast on my chassis.

[69CrazyHorse]

Xtant thanks for the info! I am getting ready to start my own bully as soon as the rest of my parts show up this week which will use the same chassis as yours. It is my first MOA build so I am very anxious to get started. I definately am going to use some of your research to complete it.

Knowing that someone was going from an Axial(started that way at least) to a bully can you think of anything I really should know that you have not already posted?

Did you find any challenges that needed to be really thought out?

Any insight you can provide is greatly appreciated.:)

[Xtant3150c]

No Problem Man "thumbsup"

Well I know I am not the best person to answer this question, but one thing I can say is get it out on the rocks and drive it! It is definately different from driving a Shafty as most anyone will tell you. So the best thing to do is get as much wheeltime with it as you can. I should take my own advice here as I don't drive my rig nearly as much as I would like :oops: :ror:

A couple of things I still need to do is get softer brushes and harder springs for the 55t motors. It is supposed to help with the drag brake of the motors.

If your going with the KK 4.0 and Bully's it is a pretty straight forward deal. The upper links were the only thing I had to think about and all I really did was checkout Kamikaze KK Berg build to get a general idea of upper link length and position.

Shocks are a personal preference. I went with the Traxxas GTR's because they were 3.5" and that is what Kamikaze was running on his KK 4.0 Berg setup.

Are you going to run a standard Micro Switch Dig setup or a Punk R/C Dig? If you go Micro Switch be sure to figure out where you want it mounted in the chassis. If you can afford to go with a Punk R/C I think it is money well spent! A Cleaner setup and very dependable.

That's about all I can think of? Don't hesitate to ask any questions here or to any of the other Bullly Owners out there.

Have Fun!

[Xtant3150c]

Forgot to mention that I got my Replacement Chisel's in today!

Big Mahalo's to Jessica at Pro-Line Racing for helping with this issue "thumbsup"

[69CrazyHorse]

The upper links are the only thing that is not currently on its way to my house. I was just planning on making my own to fit once everything else is mocked up.

I was going with the Losi 4 inch shocks since I have 3 sets on my parts shelf. I was contemplating going slightly shorter but will see after I try the 4 inch ones.

Instead of the punk dig I am going with 2 Tekin FXR's and 2 HH 45t motors. I use the Futaba 4pk so this seemed like the best option for control due to the throttle mixing available on it.

Again let me thank you for your help.

[Xtant3150c]

Sounds like a Great Setup to Me!

[Sprint 80]

Runum Hard! 8)
And often!!! :)

[Xtant3150c]

Runum Hard! 8)
And often!!! :)

Yah I need to work on that :oops: :? :ror: "thumbsup"

Hopefully I'll get more runtime in with the Bully/KK4.0 after the 4th of July Exhibition Race at Pearl Harbor :?:

[Xtant3150c]

Well I finally got this thing out on the rocks yesterday!!!! WoOT!!!! :ror:

It is still running pretty good but think I need to do something with the foam setup?

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2418/bullybug21.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/307/bullybug20.jpg

Going to change shock oil also.

Maybe a servo guard is in order?

[Sprint 80]

Nah! mine looks more bust up. :)
Good to see you got some run time X."thumbsup"

[Xtant3150c]

Nah! mine looks more bust up. :)
Good to see you got some run time X."thumbsup"

:ror:

ThanX UnKo

What U guys think of a slice of stock axial foam on the outside of my Ace's Donuts?

[Culetto]

Well I finally got this thing out on the rocks yesterday!!!! WoOT!!!! :ror:

It is still running pretty good but think I need to do something with the foam setup?




Going to change shock oil also.

Maybe a servo guard is in order?

You can add a thin (3/8 - 1/2) slice of non memory foam to the outside edge to keep them from rolling over like that. Its cheap and normally doesnt effect the rest of your setup much.

[Xtant3150c]

You can add a thin (3/8 - 1/2) slice of non memory foam to the outside edge to keep them from rolling over like that. Its cheap and normally doesnt effect the rest of your setup much.

Kewl! Mahalo for the info "thumbsup"

[53 willys]

I like to space my servo back until the tie rod is the first thing to hit instead of the draglink and servo horn....it helps tons.....and a robotronic arm would help even more...mine never bends since the robtronic.."thumbsup"
good looking rig..8)

[Xtant3150c]

I like to space my servo back until the tie rod is the first thing to hit instead of the draglink and servo horn....it helps tons.....and a robotronic arm would help even more...mine never bends since the robtronic.."thumbsup"
good looking rig..8)

Mahalo's for the tip "thumbsup"

[EvilTwin v2]

I run rc18 gold springs as internals in the GTR shocks. It frees up some room on the outside of the shock body, and it's a nice cheap spring. If you want even softer, try the silvers... but I prefer the golds.

[Xtant3150c]

I run rc18 gold springs as internals in the GTR shocks. It frees up some room on the outside of the shock body, and it's a nice cheap spring. If you want even softer, try the silvers... but I prefer the golds.

Kewl! "thumbsup"

I had thought about that before but was wondering how they would work? What weight oil do you run? I think I still have a set here somewhere?:? for some reason? :lol:

Here's a really short vid to show that I actually run this thing once in awhile :-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUt7gWyQpjY

[EvilTwin v2]

Currently, I'm using stock oil, but I did not drill out the pistons. It seems to work well with the softer spring. You might need a bit heavier weight oil with drilled pistons, though.

Kewl! "thumbsup"

I had thought about that before but was wondering how they would work? What weight oil do you run? I think I still have a set here somewhere?:? for some reason? :lol:

Here's a really short vid to show that I actually run this thing once in awhile :-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUt7gWyQpjY

[Xtant3150c]

ThanX

Yah I am going to go to a heavier oil for sure!

[ronbeck]

Hate you John!


got my Axles in th email today,o I bought some Panthers and a FX-r..... and a 8711 is on order..

[Xtant3150c]

Hate you John!


got my Axles in th email today,o I bought some Panthers and a FX-r..... and a 8711 is on order..

Hate You :-P

Can't believe you went with Panther's :shock: That is so 2007 :flipoff::mrgreen:

Looking forward to seeing how you like the Bully's :?: Hope the switch setup is satisfactory :?

[ronbeck]

Hate You :-P

Can't believe you went with Panther's :shock: That is so 2007 :flipoff::mrgreen:

Looking forward to seeing how you like the Bully's :?: Hope the switch setup is satisfactory :?

I'm going to retire the hpi rock grabbers or whAtever the he'll they are. Cor the panthers and retire my trusty badlands for some rovers.

[Xtant3150c]

Have'nt run this since the last time. And now won't be running it for a little while longer as I hijacked the electronics to get my Clod running. This will be temporary of course ;-)

I did find this though
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4430/chisel1.jpg

This tire was bought with the other pair of tires that I had the same issue with! This one does'nt look as bad right now so I just CA'ed it and put it back on. If it gets worst I guess I'll have to see again if Proline will replace them?

[Xtant3150c]

Well dang it's been awhile :ror:

Anyways I finally got a little motivated to mess around with this thing again.

I won the TCS Boulder Giveaway
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2008623&postcount=150

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2008623&postcount=150

Not owning a Shafty the only thing I could try it on was the Bully's?

So I took one of the KK4.0 side plates and drilled some new holes in the boulder for link and skid mounts.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7519/boulder3.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boulder3.jpg)
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7795/boulder4.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boulder4.jpg)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1618/boulder5.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boulder5.jpg)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9052/boulder6.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boulder6.jpg)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8193/boulder7.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boulder7.jpg)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9397/boulder8.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boulder8.jpg)

It look good, but would have some clearance issues with the front cross brace (unfortunately the chassis did not come with any?) The KK link setup and the Boulder's shock mounting location ended up pushing the wb a little pass 12.5" I think mainly because the links are mounted on the outside of the chassis. I was also thinking about using my TCS AX-10 skid but that is currently in use on my Clod Racer ;) With the AX-10 skid and if I had cross braces I am pretty sure I would be able to use the Boulder and also use all the panels. With the KK skid I would have to make new narrower roof, rear section and center section panels.

So for now the Bully's are back with the KK4.0 "thumbsup"If I can get some cheap cross braces I may give it another go?