Three Rivers Festival "Rock The Fort Comp" Ft Wayne, IN July 18th

[airborn]

Guys this should be a big one!!!! it will be at head waters park by the st Marys river during the Three Rivers Festival. How cool is that! Hear is the pdf form to print out and send in.

www.trfonline.org/2009Applications/Rock%20the%20Fort%20Flyer.pdf

[sportpak]

This is going to be awesome.

Walking distance from "junk food alley." It will be eager to fulfill all your fried cheese, corn dogs, and funnel cake desires.

Also walking distance from two beer tents. Cold beer, live rock n roll, and plenty of "scenery8)" to live the American dream.

Oh yeah, and the crawling should be awesome too. Don't miss this one.


Ben

[binaryterror]

Any pics of the crawling area?

[Miller Tyme]

Any pics of the crawling area?


I don't think there is an exsisting course, Parks department is planning to provide rocks

[sportpak]

I think Seth said they will be working on it the week before. That should give us the chance to keep an eye on them and make suggestions as they go. It should be pretty awesome, the Parks Dept. seem pretty stoked about out our 3 Rivers events. (We also are running a VTA road race the weekend before.)

Ben

[biggin69]

Keep us informed."thumbsup" Has anyone signed up yet? How about a list?

[sportpak]

Keep us informed."thumbsup" Has anyone signed up yet? How about a list?


I'm in."thumbsup"

[twistedone]

sending check out friday for me and my son

[sportpak]

sending check out friday for me and my son

Awesome! There's three...

[jcboof]

Well, Y'all know I'm in.....

[Miller Tyme]

I suppose I can start an un-official list, since registration goes to 3 Rivers Festival staff first it may take a bit before we see the full list.

Seth Barrand (airborn)
Colton Barrand
Ben Frieburger (sportpak)
Bob Coleman (twistedone)
Quentin Coleman
Jesse LeBoeuf (jcboof)
Brian Deel (realdeel)
Ken Miller (miller tyme)
Devon Miller



Keep posting intentions and I'll try to keep this list updated along with any info we get from the Festival Staff

[The Eye]

sounds like fun, i guess we will be making the drive up.... payment for 2 will mail out saturday "thumbsup"

[biggin69]

Sign me up. I will make payment this weekend."thumbsup"

[Miller Tyme]

Slowly but surely the list grows

Seth Barrand (airborn)
Colton Barrand
Ben Frieburger (sportpak)
Bob Coleman (twistedone)
Quentin Coleman
Jesse LeBoeuf (jcboof)
Brian Deel (realdeel)
Ken Miller (miller tyme)
Devon Miller
Aaron (The Eye)
Aaron's guest (Eyelet)
.......... (biggin69)

[binaryterror]

I'm pretty sure Farmer and myself will be there. Prolly with Old Tim.

[M_ENERGY]

Don't forget Derrick and Korie we will be there for sure.
Chalk two more up on that list!

[Miller Tyme]

Yet more stepping up to the plate

Seth Barrand (airborn)
Colton Barrand
Ben Frieburger (sportpak)
Bob Coleman (twistedone)
Quentin Coleman
Jesse LeBoeuf (jcboof)
Brian Deel (realdeel)
Ken Miller (miller tyme)
Devon Miller
Aaron (The Eye)
Aaron's guest (Eyelet)
.......... (biggin69)
Derrick King
Korrie Nealis
Farmer (guys that really is his full legal name) (XJ Farmer)
.......... (Binaryterror)
.......... (Old Tim)



Damn with over a month to go, this is shaping up to be HUGE turnout"thumbsup", I better quit playing with new set-ups and practice:shock:

[sportpak]

Just mailed my pre-registration in today. I also mailed my VTA event ticket as well...
http://www.trfonline.org/2009Applications/VTA%20Flyer.pdf

Both Saturdays should be a total riot.

Ben

[twistedone]

someone better order me a FAT GUY SHIRT
sending payment in morning "thumbsup""thumbsup"

[Miller Tyme]

The comp is during the 3 Rivers Festival some 30 odd or so years running. It a pretty big 9 day series of events and general partying and festival type stuff. Most of the fun will be centered around Headwaters Park and well within walking distance.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Fort+Wayne&state=IN&address=385+S+Clinton+St&zipcode=46802-1221&country=US&latitude=41.083975&longitude=-85.139341&geocode=ADDRESS

This is the general park area we'll be comping in the north west area of the park near the river likely parking on the end of Calhoun (near jail) or on a side street parking off Harrison along the river near the west edge of the park.

The 3RF committee has a list of Crawler related vendors and is supposed to score some door prizes:023: and such. We are following up with that this week, unfortunately they seem a little put off on the low initial entry list most folks (myself included) have not mailed entry yet :shrug2: , but I have submitted for the day off work.

[mhann]

put me on the list please.

mike hanneman.

[Miller Tyme]

Updated

Seth Barrand (airborn)
Colton Barrand
Ben Frieburger (sportpak)
Bob Coleman (twistedone)
Quentin Coleman
Jesse LeBoeuf (jcboof)
Brian Deel (realdeel)
Ken Miller (miller tyme)
Devon Miller
Aaron (The Eye)
Aaron's guest (Eyelet)
.......... (biggin69)
Derrick King
Korrie Nealis
Farmer (guys that really is his full legal name) (XJ Farmer)
.......... (Binaryterror)
.......... (Old Tim)
Mike Hanneman (mhann)

Lets all get those entries sent in.

[airborn]

info about the Rock the Fort comp is starting to come in, and its better than I had first thought.

There will be a cash pay out to 1st-3rd
1st $500
2nd $250
3rd $ 100

Hmm Three Rivers Festival only reports having 1 entry that would be Ben. I guess he gets the $500 for just showing up!

Also door prizes are confirmed I just do not have the info on what they are.

seth

[airborn]

I also found out that 1st - 8th will be awarded trophy's......

[sportpak]

info about the Rock the Fort comp is starting to come in, and its better than I had first thought.

There will be a cash pay out to 1st-3rd
1st $500
2nd $250
3rd $ 100

Hmm Three Rivers Festival only reports having 1 entry that would be Ben. I guess he gets the $500 for just showing up!



seth


SHOW MuMu THE MONEY BITCHES!!:mrgreen:

[M_ENERGY]

I think korie might be buying the beer after his first comp with his new truck looks to be pretty promising. :lmao:

[The Eye]

I think korie might be buying the beer after his first comp with his new truck looks to be pretty promising. :lmao:



you both can drive and you showed that yesterday "thumbsup"
M_ENERGY ..... The first ever to climb the KING'S CLIMB.
Thanks for coming and driving with us at the Rox Box

[SACCO]

I cant get the entry sheet to open up? Got a new or working link? Or am I a tard?

email is stacyalancorbin@gmail.com if you can get me the signup sheet....

[Miller Tyme]

E-mail with pdf attached - sent"thumbsup"

[SACCO]

Got it, thanks!

[Handicrawler]

When's the cut off date for early registration?

[Miller Tyme]

When's the cut off date for early registration?


Sorry Mark must have missed your post :cry:. I don't thing there is a cut and dry cutoff, as long as they recieve it in the mail before the event. I'd say get it sent in no later that next Monday or Tuesday, that would allow 3-4 days for snail mail.

[binaryterror]

Shoot me an email with the Flyer...it's down still. (jacob.scobie @ gmail.com)

Gotta sign up and pay.

[Miller Tyme]

Shoot me an email with the Flyer...it's down still. (jacob.scobie @ gmail.com)

Gotta sign up and pay.


Done"thumbsup"

[M_ENERGY]

So whats the plan if it gets rained out :evil:?

[sportpak]

If it rains, I assume we do it Sunday.

[dkingston]

So... pre-registration is a requirement? If so, please send the form to ohionitro@gmail.com

Thanks


- DK

[Miller Tyme]

So... pre-registration is a requirement? If so, please send the form to ohionitro@gmail.com

Thanks


- DK

Preregistration is not a requirement but would save you money, E-mail sent with flyer PDF

If it rains, I assume we do it Sunday.

Sunday sounds good, I'd prefer it if we could get a large party tent over the course!!

[Miller Tyme]

Looks like were going to have 20+ drivers, going to be a great time for all and some tough competition"thumbsup"

[binaryterror]

Money is in the US mail right now for me.

[M_ENERGY]

I was actually thinking a tent would be an idea but had no idea of the layout and if it would be possible at all? "thumbsup"

[twistedone]

Now lets talk accomodations:
tables
chairs
tents
what will be set-up for the crawlers and what do we need to bring ?

please let the FAT GUY in on this "thumbsup""thumbsup"

[carbonuts]

Now lets talk accomodations:
tables
chairs
tents
what will be set-up for the crawlers and what do we need to bring

I was wondering the same thing.
Can someone email me the link for registration.:mrgreen:

If things work out I will be attending."thumbsup"

[Miller Tyme]

Seth and I were just discussing that this afternoon. There will be a limited number of power receptacles but given the low charge rate for most crawlers they should be plenty. You will be responsible for you own chairs.

We will have a few 8 foot tables available, and there are some nice weeping willow trees that provide shade all day but they are across the sidewalk. about 30 feet away. If you would prefer up-close to the course there is plenty of open grass field sectioned off just for us but you will need to bring you own shade:shock:.

This is shaping up to have a large entry list likely 3 hours just getting the first 2 courses in. If sufficient people are present we may start at 11:00am, not to worry those showing up last minute expecting a 12:00 start time will still have a few hours to get the first 2 courses in.

Carbonuts I sent David Kinsington an E-mail with the PDF, I'd be happy to send it to you as well just need you E-mail address....I don't know why the link doesn't work?

[carbonuts]

carbjkcl1@yahoo.com

Thank ya sir"thumbsup"

[dkingston]

Miller Tyme, he is impatient. :roll:


- DK

[Miller Tyme]

carbjkcl1@yahoo.com

Thank ya sir"thumbsup"


E-mail sent"thumbsup"

[Miller Tyme]

Alright guys, we were going to go over this at the drivers meeting but I figure you all are big boys and good look over it.


Start Gates are live, time and scoring start when truck breaks the plane, finishes will be a line, time and scoring stop when the truck breaks the plane.

All penalties will be called out so the driver will know exactly what they are penalized for.

Boundaries, the purpose of the boundary is to keep the truck in and unnecessary human obstacles out, we are not measuring every blade of grass but an obvious infraction will be scored,
Only judges and current competing driver allowed within the boundaries

Reverses are any time the tires move the vehicle backward or rotate in the reverse direction, minute movement caused by dig will likely be ‘overlooked’ but if your drive train is sloppy enough to roll way back then prepare to eat a penalty, ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE THE JUDGES CALL AND WILL BE CONSISTENT FOR EVERYONE

Gate clearing: The 20 and past rule is in effect.

ALL 4 WHEELS must pass between the gates without touching the gate to receive progress with out some sort of gate penalty

All Floating Wheels will need to be corrected PRIOR to making additional forward progress or a gate penalty will be given.

Progress is the front and rear axle completely passed the gate. If you drive, roll, bounce, fall down hill and create progress but do not get all 4 wheels between the gates it will be scored as a Gate with Progress, unless the gate puts you at 20 before progress is made.

Any touch, intentional or unintentional by the driver will result in a reposition to last cleared gate. In the case of a falling or tumbling vehicle judges will be deemed as part of the course.

Ties will be decided by
1) The lowest score on the last course,
2) The fastest time on the last course.
3) The fastest overall time.


DRIVERS There are a lot of competitors so lets please have trucks ready so we can run continuously and not have to wait for drivers to start.

Approximate based on 25 drivers (may be revised once final entries are in)
1st & 2nd courses will be open till 2pm then judges will run 1 & 2 and set-up course #3
3rd course will open at 2:30 till 5:45 pm then judges will run and set-up the Top 5 course
Top 5 finals course will be 7:15 till 7:45

[Lonnie]

I don't know why the link doesn't work?

here is the link

http://www.trfonline.org/applications/category/16-rock-the-fort?download=18%3Arock-the-fort

[The Eye]

"Only judges and current competing driver allowed within the boundaries"

so are you saying no spoters ..... or can a driver have just 1 spoter for their run. I understand keeping random people away from and off of the course is needed, but using a spoter is normal at big events.

Just a question ... Thanks

In the case of a falling or tumbling vehicle judges will be deemed as part of the course.

why should the driver be given 10 points for hiting a judge that is in there way? It is the judges job to stay out of the way of a moving, falling, rolling truck.


Touch should be based on the driver, not the people that can not get out of the way!




??????? How many gates per course and what is the time limit ??????

Thanks,

i might have missed this, if i did .... sorry

How will roll overs be handeled ??

On the 20 and go for a gate ? do you add the 20 to the curent points on that gate or are you rounding up to 20 at that point?



Sorry for all the question's, i'm just trying to save time on the drivers meeting the day of the comp "thumbsup"

[short]

is there an updated list of entrys

[Miller Tyme]

so are you saying no spoters ..... or can a driver have just 1 spoter for their run. ...
I don't see a proplem with a spotter, the idea of this was to keep people back so the driver was not tripping over any unneeded obstacles.


why should the driver be given 10 points for hiting a judge that is in there way? It is the judges job to stay out of the way of a moving, falling, rolling truck.

Touch should be based on the driver, not the people that can not get out of the way!
Not sure I follow you thought on these 2 statements, were just thinking a judge trying to get a close look at a gate and a driver with an ichy trigger finger and don't want judges backpeddling and falling, in reality there are only a few spotts where this will even be a concern.

??????? How many gates per course and what is the time limit ??????
8-10 gates and likely be 6 minutes

How will roll overs be handeled ??
From the side by the driver or judge

On the 20 and go for a gate ? do you add the 20 to the curent points on that gate or are you rounding up to 20 at that point?
You hit 20 your past, with 20 max.

Sorry for all the question's, i'm just trying to save time on the drivers meeting the day of the comp "thumbsup"
No problem, that's why I posted this here.

[Miller Tyme]

is there an updated list of entrys

Seth Barrand (airborn)
Colton Barrand
Gage Barrand
Ben Frieburger (sportpak)
Bob Coleman (twistedone)
Lonnie Schouster
Jesse LeBoeuf (jcboof)
Brian Deel (realdeel)
Ken Miller (miller tyme)
Devon Miller
Aaron (The Eye)
Aaron's guest (Eyelet)
.......... (biggin69)
Derrick King
Korrie Nealis
Farmer (XJ Farmer)
Jake (Binaryterror)
Tim (Old Tim)
Mike Hanneman (mhann)
Cory Flint (cory1701)
Preston Flint
Josh (Carbonuts)
David Kingston (dkingston)
Josh Short (short)

Most of these are for sure there are a few who said they were but still waiting on entry forms.

[twistedone]

remove quentin
and add Lonnie Schouster

[The Eye]

Miller Tyme, thanks for all the great info.

I misread the judge think, Judges become rocks or part of the coures, They dont casue a driver to get a 10 touch. "thumbsup"


IS IT SUNDAY YET "thumbsup""thumbsup"

[sheath]

If a non-crawler is allowed to add his two cents in here...

Sorry for the mixup on the entry form link.
The link to the Rock the Fort entry form is as follows;
http://www.trfonline.org/applications/category/16-rock-the-fort?download=18%3Arock-the-fort
The TRF launched a new website after the original link was posted, so the address changed. I didn't get the word out to Seth and company about the new link. Check it out and enter if you have not already.
Here is a sneak preview of the T-shirt you will receive with your entry...
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d142/summitrcraceway/2009%20TRV%20VTA%202/SD531111.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d142/summitrcraceway/2009%20TRV%20VTA%202/SD531110.jpg

[The Eye]

The shirts look nice .....
Please note i will need a Youth Small for Evan "Little E"
His entry fee was sent overnight mail today "thumbsup"
I marked XL on my entire..

IS IT SATURDAY YET :mrgreen:

Thanks
Aaron

[Lonnie]

I stopped by the comp area today and took spy shots with my cell of what they are working on for Saturday. "thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"

http://www.skunkracing.net/twisted/ft%20wayne%20spy%20shots/slides/2009-07-13%2014.04.11%20[640x480].jpg

http://www.skunkracing.net/twisted/ft%20wayne%20spy%20shots/slides/2009-07-13%2014.05.45%20[640x480].jpg

http://www.skunkracing.net/twisted/ft%20wayne%20spy%20shots/slides/2009-07-13%2014.05.33%20[640x480].jpg

http://www.skunkracing.net/twisted/ft%20wayne%20spy%20shots/slides/2009-07-13%2014.06.59%20[640x480].jpg


I think I have this one right, if not let me know.

http://www.skunkracing.net/twisted/ft%20wayne%20spy%20shots/slides/ftw.jpg
http://www.skunkracing.net/twisted/ft%20wayne%20spy%20shots/slides/ftw2.jpg

[The Eye]

looks great so far .......... is it Saturday yet "thumbsup"


I like the map of the area, but where do we find FOOD !!!!
Can i bring my small camp grill and cook a hamburger or will the festival disapprove of that. With it being a 12 hour day my tape worm will get quite hungry.


this is going to be a blast "thumbsup""thumbsup"

[Miller Tyme]

Lonnie you are correct, the map is spot on.

More rocks should be there tonight and placed tomorrow.

Aaron, finding food won't be a problem, as for the grill I'll have to check. I'm planning on a cooler box with coldcut fixxins.

[The Eye]

I'm planning on a cooler box with coldcut fixxins.

Heck this sound even better, thanks for the idea then all i need is a cooler "thumbsup"

[binaryterror]

Ken/Sheath...anyone.

I forgot I need a FAT Guy shirt. 4x if possible! (I seem to shrink all my laundry so I gotta start bigger...D'oh)

[sportpak]

The early forecast for Saturday looks good. No rain and very reasonable temps.

ben

[jcboof]

Well, it looks as if someone else will likely be winning the $500 bucks. Today i had a family member die of a heart attack and i'm guessing the funeral will be held on saturday. :cry:

I'm not for sure yet, but its very likely. So, I probably wont be there, Unless you guys want to keep all 4 courses up till later in the day and I can make it after the funeral???? At least I havent sent in my entry money yet. I'll let y'all know what happens.

Good luck to all.

[XJ Farmer]

Sorry for your loss, I hope everything works out for ya. I was hoping to hang out with ya again.

Later
Farmer

[twistedone]

Well Guys

Lonnie is in the hospital having some trouble breathing and dont think he will be making the trip.
lets all pray for him and hope for a quick and safe recovery.
I have been asked to still go and crawl from him and will be there with quentin as planned before. so see ya Saturday as long as Lonnie is stable I will be there like he asked "thumbsup""thumbsup"

[sportpak]

I hate hearing all the bad news. You guys take care and don't worry, we'll be here when you guys can make it. We'll be thinking about you.

Ben

[binaryterror]

Jesse, sorry to hear about your loss. It would have been fun hanging out, but family comes first.

Bob, let Lonnie know we're all rooting for a speedy recovery for him.

[jcboof]

Thanks for the support guys, After visiting with the family tonight, I've found out that they are hoping to possibly have the visitation on thursday and the funeral on friday. As long as everything goes as planned, this should work. That means that I'll be able to make the comp! But it all just depends on timing for all who are involved with this process. So for now, I'll just play it by ear. No definites right now.

[binaryterror]

Memory Foams might not work...great temps though (comfortable for us round gents)

[jcboof]

Well, I'm not gonna be able to make it on Saturday after all. The funeral is scheduled for saturday now. Oh well, BUT, My crawler might make an appearance though. My buddy might take it up there to whoop on you guys! He's not as good as me though!!!!!!!!!!! HA!! So he should'nt whoop ya too bad!!!

[The Eye]

PARKING QUESTION AND CAMP SET UP QUESTION "thumbsup"

THANKS

[airborn]

the parking will be for comp as well that day, you will not have to pay to park. set up under the willow trees on either side or if you have a easy up just put it any where on the rock side in the grass circle.

seth

[The Eye]

the parking will be for comp as well that day, you will not have to pay to park. set up under the willow trees on either side or if you have a easy up just put it any where on the rock side in the grass circle.

seth


Thank You

[The Eye]

Ok, I just want to double check a few things

Yard opens for set up at 10am ..... we can bring EZ ups "I hope"
Driving starts at 12pm "noon"

when will we need to sign in ?
when are we teching trucks ?
when will the drivers meeting be?

I'm just trying to plan my leave time for saturday


Thanks

[twistedone]

Ok, I just want to double check a few things

Yard opens for set up at 10am ..... we can bring EZ ups "I hope"
Driving starts at 12pm "noon"

when will we need to sign in ?
when are we teching trucks ?
when will the drivers meeting be?

I'm just trying to plan my leave time for saturday


Thanks

man I would leave now Aaron and set-up in a corner cause you are being Badddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!! lol can't wait to meet ya and drive with some of you guys this is going to be awesome

"thumbsup""thumbsup"
i will be there like 4 or 5 on friday night

[The Eye]

man I would leave now Aaron and set-up in a corner cause you are being Badddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!! lol can't wait to meet ya and drive with some of you guys this is going to be awesome

"thumbsup""thumbsup"
i will be there like 4 or 5 on friday night


#1 I'm not tryuing to be bad, just knowledgeable
#2 Meet you for sure " I have your shirt" "thumbsup"
#3 This for sure is going to be a blast
#4 camping sounds cool .... :mrgreen:

See you all saturday morning, Thanks again for buting this on "thumbsup"

[twistedone]

#1 I'm not tryuing to be bad, just knowledgeable
#2 Meet you for sure " I have your shirt" "thumbsup"
#3 This for sure is going to be a blast
#4 camping sounds cool .... :mrgreen:

See you all saturday morning, Thanks again for buting this on "thumbsup"


when will we need to sign in ?when you get there
when are we teching trucks ?I will bring the tech stic when you get there
when will the drivers meeting be?just before we start crawling

when will we need to sign in ?10:00am
when are we teching trucks ?10:30-11:15 am
when will the drivers meeting be?11:45am-noon

[Miller Tyme]

Ok, I just want to double check a few things

Yard opens for set up at 10am ..... we can bring EZ ups "I hope"
Driving starts at 12pm "noon"

when will we need to sign in ?
when are we teching trucks ?
when will the drivers meeting be?

I'm just trying to plan my leave time for saturday


Thanks

Sorry I took so long to respond, I've been with out internet for 2 days :(

Yard will open about 8:30 I'd like to give every one about 30-45 minutes open time.

Sign in when you get there, Tech trucks at that time

As posted earlier we would prefer to start at 11 instead of noon, providing enough people are there by then and no objections.

Drivers meeting at 10:45

Tentative schedule is

open crawl course 1 & 2 from 11-2 (pending total entry count)
judges crawl and set-up course #3 2-2:45ish
Course 3 open 3-5:30 ish
judges run and set-up #4, top 5 run 6:15 -

Again this is assuming we need to move 25-30 entries along, currently only 15 entries turned in, so if there are no late arrivals tomorrow, we will adjust accordingly.

[twistedone]

Well Guys and Gals

I am here and got to check out the rocks today what a awesome area for crawling. I do belive that the summit guys are going to make this a ton of fun and very challenging for all especially the losi and ax guys.

well im going to sleep and dream of my........... well thats non-of your business SEE ALL IN AM

OH YEA DAIL-UP REALLY SUCKS

TTYL
bOB

[The Eye]

well seeing how it is 1am i guess i'll go get 4 hours of sleep "thumbsup" see you all in a few :mrgreen:

[sportpak]

Great time today guys. Wish I was in the money, but still I had a great time.

Thanks to Seth, Ken, Brian, and many others for putting the time in last minute to make it happen.

Ben

[jcboof]

WELL.................................. Someone get their butt on here and post up some results!! Better not have let any of them foreigners from Michigan win!:mrgreen:

[twistedone]

Had a good time today love crawling with friends and my Son.
Thanks for having us hope to see ya soon
ttyl
Bob

[M_ENERGY]

GREAT GREAT TIME :mrgreen: . . . everyone is awesome"thumbsup" It was cool to crawl with all the guys from Michigan :)

[jcboof]

Seriously, The suspense is killing me! WHO WON???????????? How did everyone do??????

[jcboof]

Oh, BTW Derrick, I have the other Beadlock rings for ya, I forgot to put them in the package, I'll be bringing em to the next comp for ya.

[sportpak]

The sheep deeler won.
Derick second.
Miller third.


I'm sure Seth will post final tallies before too long. Good crawling all day by the top 10 guys. Brian just totally destroyed the third course making him nearly a lock with a 34 point lead going into the final course. MuMu was decent all day, had a few moments of extreme luck that looked like talent:oops:. I finished 8th.

We missed you man, you would have made an impression on the results I'm sure.

Ben

[jcboof]

Congrats on the 123 guys!!! Man, Brian, you still up for buying beers??

[short]

had a good time yesterday you indiana make some good but hard and challenging courses i took 110 pics yesterday ill post up later today

[Miller Tyme]

Had a great time yesterday, courses were tougher than anticipated but aside from Brian's great course 3 run everyone was close and each of the 3 had at least 1 truck finish so they were doable.

Brian 78
Derrick 112
Ken 117
Tim 123
Jake 136
Quentin 151
Cory 152
Ben 154
Seth 156
Farmer 157
Aaron 159
Doug 159 Tie breaker being Aaron's great course 3 run (2nd best)
Evan 163
Josh 164
Devon 165
Colt 166
Bob 168
Gage 178

[airborn]

WoW:shock: I beat Farmer! And I took a 40 on the last course:oops:

Love yah Farmer"thumbsup"

[mschaffer66]

My buddy and I stopped by there on Saturday to watch and all I have to say is there sure are some immature whine asses that crawl. The whole half hour we sat there and watched it was a bunch of petty bickering between a few of the people about when the timer started, who was calling out stuff, who was and wasn't a judge.

Just wanted to know that there are some folks out there that give a negative first impression to people walking by.

No the plus side it did look like a very challenging course and there were a lot of little rigs sitting around. Maybe next year you guys could petition to get it put a little closer to the main areas.

[Miller Tyme]

Apologies on the bickering, believe it or not it was between friends and both were judges at that, some times we do forget about impressions outside those whom are behind the scenes.

On that note I'd like to give my rundown on the event and make a few other apologies and explanations, and open the floor to others to do the same and hopefully improve this and other events.

First it most be noted that this was put on and the main decisions were controlled by the Three Rivers Festival Staff. Seth, Brian and Myself merely had a hand in logistics of day of event management and course design both within the limits of what they provided. This resulted in 2 big issues that we the Fort Wayne crew feel VERY BAD about.

First The Rocks provided. We were promised all of whatever kind of rock we needed, believe it or not the course closest to the path is initially what they gave us. Be beg bummed and even used our equipment to get more. This affected the practice course, the ability to run 3 open crawl courses, and the need to jump from course 1 to 2 to get a 3rd layout.

Second Door Prizes. They were provided a list of vendors, we even asked multiple time leading up to the event and volunteered to do it and they ensured us they had it under control and even had the prizes lined up. Obviously we should have done it ourselves.

Third the actual running of the event. We tried our best to keep it fair minimal running of the course ahead of time was done and that was merely to determine what was and wasn't possible and even at that there were changes to the course Friday and the last of the rock did not even show till Wednesday. Of the top 5 only 2 had ever seen the course before and as close as the scores were (Brian's great 3rd run aside) I say things looked as even as possible.

A question of boundaries came up, as far as I can tell no-one actually received a boundary penatly. It was mentioned at the meeting that since the paint was forgot and since the intention was not to give penalties but rather keep rediculous trek to a minumim and keep the course clear for drivers, that we would just verbaly agree to keep things resonable and not have a marked boundary, enough said.

All that said I still think it was a success, and rest assured Seth and I have already said IF it is done again next year then
1) They know and we openly expressed our need for more large rocks next time.
2) Cash pay-out was a bad idea and we would rather have bought raffle prizes.
3) Temperature variations effecting rock traction will be taking in to account, those damn courses were hard.



So all that said I had a blast and feel most did also but I am sure some are to polite to discuss concercns, but please do, only lets try to keep it constructive.

[sportpak]

It's nice to see the casual passer-by has the energy to find us on our thread and bash the entire event based on his half hour of observation. Thanks"thumbsup"

Ben

[Miller Tyme]

It's nice to see the casual passer-by has the energy to find us on our thread and bash the entire event based on his half hour of observation. Thanks"thumbsup"

Ben

Easy Ben....look at his post count, he is a crawler and frankly he told us how things appear from outside and I appreciate that. Can't grow the hobby that way. Personnally I think we had better response from spectators before the comp.....when the DAMN money wasn't on the line

[wallyworld]

Here's a link to the newspaper article for the Rock the Fort competition. http://www.news-sentinel.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090720/NEWS/907200318 A huge thanks to Seth, Ken, TRF and everyone else that helped make this event a success.

[OLD Tim]

all in all you guys did a great job its tough to put on an event when you don't have total control over all, and where else can you compete for money and the guys you are competing with are helping you "great work drivers ". it was great meeting some new people and old friends.............Tim "thumbsup""thumbsup" :mrgreen:

[M_ENERGY]

I think it was great "thumbsup" especially it being the first event and with everything not going the way it was suppose too and you guys pulled off a great comp...it can only get better from here. :)

[RealDeel]

Anyone else have a problem with the $? If so let me know I'll send you a check so we can get on with this. :roll:


I am not sure if rock crawling is the same everywhere? But, one thing about this great group of guys that we have is the willingness for everyone to help eachother. Whether its on their rig or finding that perfect 1/8" of rock, or the "lock the front and drive the rear".

No other type of RC I have been envolved in have I witnessed the willingness of competitors to help eachother win or lose. I think I get just as excited for a competitors truck to crawl the impossible as the driver does. Its amazing what these little trucks will do.

I havn't been crawling very long but I will say I am not going anywhere because of the great group of guys I get to crawl with. Not the money or prizes.

[Miller Tyme]

I must agree with Brian, I've been racing along time and outside of the closet group of friends competition is ruthless, Crawling is so nice because it truly seems as if everyone just wants to see somebody raise the bar so they know it can be done"thumbsup" and all the drivers are willing to help....

[short]

i got pics done sorry not the best picture taker

http://s559.photobucket.com/albums/ss34/jshort420/Three%20Rivers%20Fort%20Wayne/?albumview=slideshow


thanks again i had a good time

[The Eye]

i got pics done sorry not the best picture taker

http://s559.photobucket.com/albums/ss34/jshort420/Three%20Rivers%20Fort%20Wayne/?albumview=slideshow


thanks again i had a good time



it is asking for a password to see the photos :cry:

[short]

sorry it should work now

[sheath]

Thanks for the link to the pictures, Josh.
OK, anyone out there take any video this weekend??? Let me know.

[RealDeel]

Bob had the Twisted Camera up and running.........THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! Said they are working on getting them posted soon.

[mschaffer66]

Yeah, my comments weren't meant to start stuff. Just wanted to give you an idea of what an observer that wasn't in the comp would think. I know when my buddy and I start bitching at each other you'd think we hated each other, but its all in jest.

I also know what its like to deal with municipalities when you try to do something that they have no experience with. The good thing is going forward you guys have set a benchmark so you will have a lot more information for next year's comp.

I think one that that may be nice in the future would be a sign with some of the basic rules for people that don't know whats going on.

You guys might also be able to make some cash with the rent a crawler idea that Twisted has up this way. I know I would have rented one for a few minutes to give the course a try since mine wasn't rock ready yet.

Anyway, had we had more time I would have loved to stay and watch some more. I almost find as much fun in watching RC's as running them.
"thumbsup"

[The Eye]

I would like to thanks everyone involved for putting on a great event. It was a fun day crawling and hanging out with friends. As far as any whine ass stuff going on, i must have been at a different comp. This is a great group of guys that came together in Fort Wayne to crawl and promote the hobby. So did people see whine behavior or good friends picking on each other only they will know. Now from what i see here no paid drivers have had anything bad to say which is all that matters. I as a driver paid for an entry, drove 3 hours one way and had a blast and will be back again. Judges and the rule were covered 100% in the drivers meeting, thanks by the way. "thumbsup"


Just a few side notes:

My buddy and I stopped by there on Saturday to watch Thank You for stoping to watch and all I have to say is there sure are some immature whine asses that crawl. WOW, This is a great group of guy to crawl with, You might not want to go to a large national event if you think this was bad. The whole half hour we sat there and watched it was a bunch of petty bickering between a few of the people about when the timer started, time starts when the truck cross's the start line who was calling out stuff, judge's normally call out the points who was and wasn't a judge. judge's were named in the drivers meeting

Just wanted to know that there are some folks out there that give a negative first impression to people walking by. I'm sorry that friends having fun poking and picking at each other was scaring off people that were walking by from buying a crawler and enjoying the hobby. I know many people that walked by were very happy to see the family fun that crawling has. I only say this because alot of drivers were also there driving with their sons some as young as 8.

Family Fun Hobby i think would be a plus "thumbsup"
Friends enjoying a hobby on a beatiful day, a plus "thumbsup"
sorry if all of this looked to be negative :cry:

Now the plus side it did look like a very challenging course yes they were and there were a lot of little rigs sitting around. Maybe next year you guys could petition to get it put a little closer to the main areas. this could maybe be ok, but i for one liked it where it was. There was over $3000 setting there on every table in those little rigs, so having a lot of non drivers just walking around could open up to some issues.


I'm glad you stoped by, i hope next year more drivers will show up because this was a great day of crawling with friends "thumbsup"

Thanks for putting on a fun comp :mrgreen:

[Lonnie]

Videos That Bob and Quentin shot are on the link below.

[The Eye]

Lonnie, Thanks for posting up all the great videos. I'm glad to hear you are feel better

also thanks to everyone that help run his camera so we could have the videos

"thumbsup"