View Full Version : Roborg's (Cast) Bully Build
roborg5000
05-21-2009, 09:28 AM
Ive had Jarod's HaVoc chassis sitting here for awhile now and just got these cast Bully's to test so figured now was a good time to try it out. at the same time I got a couple electronics upgrades as well (Futaba Steer servo, PunkRCDig. 2 great additions!
More pictures soon!
Video uploading now.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/roborg5000/CastBullyHavoc002.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/roborg5000/CastBullyHavoc004.jpg
HAHA! Just noticed where I lost my body clip
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/roborg5000/CastBullyTests007.jpg
JP Custom's HaVoc Chassis
RC4WD X-Locks tires
RC4WD BL01N Rims
110mm RC4WD Sparks Shocks
CC MambaMax
2x Kawada 50T Brushed Motors
CCBEC
Spektrum DX3R
Futaba 94780 Steer Servo (Present day)
Punk R/C DIG (in 3 days)
3cell 1300mah 25c Lipo
Lower links- Traxxas5319
60mm front torsion links
roborg5000
05-21-2009, 03:32 PM
Sweet.Awesome build!!.I can't wait till you get his one done and get bashing on it..Curious to how those cast Bully's play out..But what are your first impressions on them and are you cutting down on wheels weights due to the weight of the axles?
I wasnt to hip to the use of the cast material but, we will see how it plays out.
V4 axles had no breaks or bends.
I took some pretty good hits Tuesday night without issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmf0SoFeCvY
My only complaint to this day is the loss of screws from the knuckles but, I had that problem with the originals as well.
Just keep adding the threadlock and eventually they will stay.
I did keep all my wheel weights in order to put the axles to the test. "thumbsup"
I should have mentioned I only used 2 cross braces in the rear of the chassis by my 2nd run to gain more flex up front.
I also needed to space my torsion links out on the axle towards the rim more to clear the servo and gain more flex.
EeePee
05-21-2009, 08:24 PM
Looks like you got that Havoc dialed in pretty damn good already!!
Not really. It worked okay, but it can be better. He needs to tweak that thing.
roborg5000
05-21-2009, 08:29 PM
Not really. It worked okay, but it can be better. He needs to tweak that thing.
;-) I was tweaking there with a few suggestions . Remember ? :lol:
I need to order that set of shorter shocks this week and go from there. "thumbsup"
EeePee
05-21-2009, 08:30 PM
I know. "thumbsup"
run2jeepn
05-21-2009, 08:43 PM
Nice move at 4:45:)
Nice start...If you need any tips on the HaVoc just shoot me a PM..
53 willys
05-21-2009, 09:16 PM
I have been using "shake proof" washers on one side of my knuckle bolts....and on the other I am running cap head bolts and aircraft safety wire....both seem to work well...I was gonna try permanent loc-tight..but now that i have the shake proof washers I think I'm good...
Looking good Rob!!! Nice vid too!
I'm dying to get my cast axles now!!! I got a new top secret chassis I'm gonna throw them under!!8)
keep up the great work.
roborg5000
05-21-2009, 09:21 PM
Nice move at 4:45:)
Nice start...If you need any tips on the HaVoc just shoot me a PM..
Thanks Jarod.
I would say I just need some 80mm shocks and I will be good to go . "thumbsup"
You got any ideas on why the knuckle screws keep coming out?I have heard abnout this issue a lot,just curious about thoughts on it.
There is minimal threads in the axle for the knuckle to mount so the screw tends to creep out over time but, not all the time .
Invest in some M3 x 7mm button cap screws. ;-)
53 willys
05-21-2009, 09:29 PM
so Rob how do you like that new dig unit???
roborg5000
05-21-2009, 09:36 PM
I have been using "shake proof" washers on one side of my knuckle bolts....and on the other I am running cap head bolts and aircraft safety wire....both seem to work well...I was gonna try permanent loc-tight..but now that i have the shake proof washers I think I'm good...
Looking good Rob!!! Nice vid too!
I'm dying to get my cast axles now!!! I got a new top secret chassis I'm gonna throw them under!!8)
keep up the great work.
I need to check on these "shake proof" washers ;-)
Looking forward to the TSC too "thumbsup"
so Rob how do you like that new dig unit???
I uh, Dig it . ;-)
Works wonders man.
To lose one mechanical switch is a great thing. Especially when ive had nothing but problems with all mini servos ive used for DIG!!!
Flawless operation. Switches never got hot either .
Indicator lights are cool when its 1am and you forget which direction front and rear dig is on your radio :ror:
Id suggest it . Best $50 I've spent in awhile !
roborg5000
05-21-2009, 09:38 PM
Cool,thanks man..I'm headin to Fastenal tomorrow to pick up an order on some other M3 fastners and set screws anyways!"thumbsup"..I love that place..20 bucks get you enough fastners to last a very long time..:lol:
Thanks for the reminder i need to take a trip there as well tomorrow !!! "thumbsup"
I actually did forget until you said Fastenal :ror:
davec
05-22-2009, 08:41 AM
Red loctite seems to cure the loosening screws pretty well. I was having them come loose pretty much every run, then some red loctite seemed to fix the problem. They are tight, but not so tight that you can't get them back out. Just my .02.
Colby
05-22-2009, 04:44 PM
bah bah bah. It not gunna werk becuz yu dnt hav ur pink nutz rooobbb :lol:
BaddClod
05-23-2009, 04:08 PM
Cool vid.8)
That's one aweome rig."thumbsup"
uktwin
05-24-2009, 01:28 AM
Gents,
One thing I have noticed is that no one states having degreased the nuts and bolts before the locktite is applied, in model helicopter circles this is de riguer, I'm not trying to tell granny how to suck eggs but it has not been mentioned as far as I can see. Normally Blue locktite is used because once Red is apllied it sticks like Sh!t to a blanket and the devils own to get apart again. With blade revs up at 3K RPM blue works, this almost sounds like a mechanical tendency to unwind the nuts in which case wire locking may be a good compromise between ''tight nuts'' and put together for ever
regards
kevin.
roborg5000
05-24-2009, 05:21 AM
Gents,
One thing I have noticed is that no one states having degreased the nuts and bolts before the locktite is applied, in model helicopter circles this is de riguer, I'm not trying to tell granny how to suck eggs but it has not been mentioned as far as I can see. Normally Blue locktite is used because once Red is apllied it sticks like Sh!t to a blanket and the devils own to get apart again. With blade revs up at 3K RPM blue works, this almost sounds like a mechanical tendency to unwind the nuts in which case wire locking may be a good compromise between ''tight nuts'' and put together for ever
regards
kevin.
There is no grease on these bolts :???:
Culetto
05-24-2009, 06:22 AM
I just switched all mine out to cap head with a 3mm head with blue loctyte and keep one in my pocket. I started checking for loose screws between each course after losing a weight out of my vanquish wheels so its habit.
uktwin
05-24-2009, 11:06 AM
There is no grease on these bolts :???:
I'm not suggesting there is but lubricant from the manufactuing process can remain in threads, cleaning with alcohol just give the locktite its best chance.
regards
Kevin.
clodbuilder99
05-24-2009, 11:24 AM
Tight Vid!!!..............
Looks like the different cast bullys are holdn up so far.
roborg5000
05-24-2009, 08:24 PM
I just switched all mine out to cap head with a 3mm head with blue loctyte and keep one in my pocket. I started checking for loose screws between each course after losing a weight out of my vanquish wheels so its habit.
HAHHA! I know the routine :ror:
I'm not suggesting there is but lubricant from the manufactuing process can remain in threads, cleaning with alcohol just give the locktite its best chance.
regards
Kevin.
Understood "thumbsup"
Tight Vid!!!..............
Looks like the different cast bullys are holdn up so far.
So far so good!!
I beat on them a little more at the house this weekend but , no videos from that course because thats just silly :ror:
Racer4Life
05-25-2009, 09:00 AM
So the dig switch works good then?
roborg5000
05-25-2009, 02:31 PM
So the dig switch works good then?
Tisk, tisk, read above :ror:
GaBronco
05-28-2009, 10:27 PM
Are those still your first set of X-Locks?! They have got to be getting a bit long in the tooth, i know mine are starting to show some wear...Cant beat them for the awesome traction though.
roborg5000
05-29-2009, 02:28 AM
Are those still your first set of X-Locks?! They have got to be getting a bit long in the tooth, i know mine are starting to show some wear...Cant beat them for the awesome traction though.
Nah, they are still all good
http://www.greatrvstuff.com/uploaded_images/29-Palms-014b-743389.jpg
:lol: Yes, I need a new set .
Ive noticed in the past 2 weeks some loss of traction finally. ;)
Racer4Life
06-06-2009, 09:13 PM
This thing did really well today. The setup works great.
Do work driver!! Nice job!!
roborg5000
06-06-2009, 09:29 PM
1st out of 11 not bad ;)
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167114&goto=newpost
No axle issues once again. No bends no breaks.
Still running 1lb on each wheel.
The only thing I can stress is to Loctite everything . Especially the link mounts and knuckle mounts.
Finally some new shoes on the way too :D
run2jeepn
06-06-2009, 10:41 PM
Guessing you Like your HaVoc...:)
roborg5000
06-07-2009, 07:37 AM
Guessing you Like your HaVoc...:)
Works really well! Im lovin it!
Honestly cant believe I have not broken it yet.
Ive seen the front wrap around itself a few times now :ror:
53 willys
06-07-2009, 07:51 AM
Nice job rob!!
EeePee
06-07-2009, 08:46 AM
1st out of 11 not bad ;)
:flipoff:
Well done.
Lucky. :D
roborg5000
06-07-2009, 09:18 PM
:flipoff:
Well done.
Lucky. :D
Somethin' stinks
http://suhmfun.com/images/Air%20Fresheners/Strawberry380.jpg
Thats better :ror:
roborg5000
06-21-2009, 05:54 AM
Installed the LowBoyz Beadlocks with new X-Locks finally :mrgreen:
http://www.rc4wdstore.com/2/images/LowBoyz2.2Web4.jpg (http://www.rc4wdstore.com/2/product_info.php?cPath=20&products_id=777)
There was an issue with the copper ring inserts so I removed them .
They will be addressed on customer orders "thumbsup"
Here is my first run on these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHf428826Lk
4:45 mark shows the pendulum working really well "thumbsup"
Culetto
06-21-2009, 06:42 AM
Very nice.
How wide did you end up when running them?
roborg5000
06-21-2009, 07:02 AM
Very nice.
How wide did you end up when running them?
10" "thumbsup"
clodbuilder99
06-21-2009, 03:24 PM
nice vid, the wheels look better without the copper inserts imo:mrgreen:
roborg5000
08-26-2009, 09:09 PM
I had a chance to install the new axle tubes and knuckles and run them last night .
I have to say these are far better then the first and the threads are much deeper in the axle for the knuckle screws.
The Sleeve tolerance is also much better . I have Zero slop now!!! 8)
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/roborg5000/Trailbusters011.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/roborg5000/SummerSeriesFinal001.jpg
run2jeepn
08-26-2009, 10:29 PM
Glad that fixed the Slop...Looking good too...
addictedtonitro
08-27-2009, 07:03 PM
I had a chance to install the new axle tubes and knuckles and run them last night .
I have to say these are far better then the first and the threads are much deeper in the axle for the knuckle screws.
The Sleeve tolerance is also much better . I have Zero slop now!!! 8)
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/roborg5000/Trailbusters011.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/roborg5000/SummerSeriesFinal001.jpg
what tubes and knuckles are you refering too. I'm really considering these axles and am checking out the bully section to see what everyone is running and how they like it.
run2jeepn
08-27-2009, 08:02 PM
what tubes and knuckles are you refering too. I'm really considering these axles and am checking out the bully section to see what everyone is running and how they like it.
The New Tubes and Knuckles that come with the axles. So if you order a set of Bully's now. You get the new upgrade... But if you ordered before the upgraded Tubes and Knuckles and can still buy them pretty cheap from rc4wd.com
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