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kikcaffine
05-30-2009, 10:25 AM
less than 10 minutes of driving and a cvd shaft snapped in half. not the pin but the actual shaft. not happy to say the least. rich can you do anything about this?

moes670
05-30-2009, 10:50 AM
less than 10 minutes of driving and a cvd shaft snapped in half. not the pin but the actual shaft. not happy to say the least. rich can you do anything about this?

My guess is he would but he did mention he will be away for the weekend. Something about a softball turnoment.

killswitch
05-30-2009, 10:51 AM
less than 10 minutes of driving and a cvd shaft snapped in half. not the pin but the actual shaft. not happy to say the least. rich can you do anything about this?

wow that sucks. im really starting to regret preordering a first batch truck....

Rocksmith Eng.
05-30-2009, 11:03 AM
Im sure there will be a few probs here and there with the first batch. But they wont be anything Rich and the guys cant fix or make right. Rich is on here to help us and has done so already.
I dont regret anything, this is a freakin sweet rig right out a the box. Just go thru it a bit and double check things to make sure there right

So be patient guys, you have a comp ready rig in your hands. So dont throw stones just yet.

bustedcrawler
05-30-2009, 11:06 AM
less than 10 minutes of driving and a cvd shaft snapped in half. not the pin but the actual shaft. not happy to say the least. rich can you do anything about this?



Can you tell us more about what you were doing when it broke? Was it bound up, using dig, hard fall... hard to judge what could have caused it without knowing what you were doing.

DBR
05-30-2009, 11:09 AM
And also remember, this is unlike any drive train we have ever driven. I say, take things slow. Practice first then bash second. Rich even said that you will have to relearn driving for this rig since it is so different.

killswitch
05-30-2009, 11:15 AM
not throwing stones, just beginning to get frustrated and i havent even finished my truck yet. the worst part is I just tore down a very capable axial comp truck to go scaler with it because the losi was gonna be here friday. now i have a scaler thats not finished and im very concerned that the gear i have on hand isnt gonna work for my new comp truck... and i dont have a brushless system laying around. I know Rich and the guys will take care of everyone's issues, just as they have with every other car and truck they've released. During the 7 years i managed a hobbytown and the 20 years of racing prior to that, Losi has been by far the best when it comes to handling issues and helping their customers.

bustedcrawler
05-30-2009, 11:29 AM
not throwing stones, just beginning to get frustrated and i havent even finished my truck yet. the worst part is I just tore down a very capable axial comp truck to go scaler with it because the losi was gonna be here friday. now i have a scaler thats not finished and im very concerned that the gear i have on hand isnt gonna work for my new comp truck... and i dont have a brushless system laying around. I know Rich and the guys will take care of everyone's issues, just as they have with every other car and truck they've released. During the 7 years i managed a hobbytown and the 20 years of racing prior to that, Losi has been by far the best when it comes to handling issues and helping their customers.



Just some food for thought, but these are brand new, 1st run trucks here! Like every other rig out there, all the parts in the truck need a break in period. Either do that with your gear or as some others have posted up use a drill to spin the axles for a few minutes. Tear it down, lube it and loctite everything, put your gear in and match the gearing, then break everything in. For the first month or so I am going to be running a motor heatsink with a fan on it to help keep the motor cool as everything breaks in.


It's hard to say anything unless we know what was going on when the CVD broke. ANYTHING will break if you push it hard enough. Like you said, Losi will take care of the customers.

kikcaffine
05-30-2009, 12:20 PM
Its broke during an off camber uphill climb. Dont believe it was bound up or anything.

bustedcrawler
05-30-2009, 12:30 PM
Its broke during an off camber uphill climb. Dont believe it was bound up or anything.


Thanks! Hmm that seems odd. Wonder if it could be related to a loose CVD pin... ie it came loose while you were driving and then boom.

kikcaffine
05-30-2009, 01:24 PM
I dunno, i had loctited the setscrew holding the pin.

MISFITCOMPER
05-30-2009, 02:09 PM
My rear driveshaft pin fell out when I was setting my end points, so I check all the cvd's and some needed the pin set screw tightend. My slipper cluch slips alot when going onto small rocks. I think it is just that it needs break in time. Unless you guys know how to tighten it up some? I'm running HB rovers w/7 1/2oz each front and 3 1/2oz each rear does that seem ok. I dont know it all new to me going from an Axial, but damn do I love how bad ass this thing looks.

killswitch
05-30-2009, 02:13 PM
For the first month or so I am going to be running a motor heatsink with a fan on it to help keep the motor cool as everything breaks in.

already done it... lol. the associated TC3 heatsink/fan fits nicely if you cut most of the fins off. Its a really tight fit. I may just mount the fan up to some scrap lexan and go without the heatsink.

kikcaffine
05-30-2009, 02:14 PM
My slipper was like that, I tightened it up because it got frustrating that it couldn't even climb up a wall.

MISFITCOMPER
05-30-2009, 02:30 PM
My slipper was like that, I tightened it up because it got frustrating that it couldn't even climb up a wall.

RIGHT! Thats the one thing that pissed me off, but I love the truck its bad ass. I'll tighten up mine in a few. Watching paint dry right now.

Dark8ngel
05-30-2009, 02:53 PM
Nice to see the losi out, still waiting on mine. :cry:

It seems to be plagued by the same intial issues the creeper was getting bashed about when it was first released..lol

No loctite, pins falling out, leaky shocks, cvd's breaking...and this is just from the few that post on here, not counting the thousands that have shipped world wide and the owners dont post here.

I got lucky and got a creepr from a later batch, no issues...so I hope my losi is not from one of the first batches when it arrives..fingers crossed. :shock:

Rich Trujillo
05-30-2009, 03:21 PM
less than 10 minutes of driving and a cvd shaft snapped in half. not the pin but the actual shaft. not happy to say the least. rich can you do anything about this?

Bummer about this. Shoot me an email @ rtrujillo@losi.com or PM me here. I'll get you taken care of.

I'll try and get back later today.

Thanks,
Rich

Del Montess
05-30-2009, 03:29 PM
hahaha, wasnt it last tuesday or wednesday that people were saying, "it's been so long! I can't wait! damn, my LHS didn't order soon enough, I won't be part of the first batch!" now a couple days later it's "I'm regretting getting a first batch rig." or "I hope mine isn't one of the first batch"

no first run of anything is going to be flawless. you wanted it to be out quickly, but now you're wishing they had waited to make it better? which is it?

this isn't a miracle rig, tho it is one of the best stock rigs available, shocking that it's first mass release has slight oversight problems like a couple screws loose or missing lock-tite.

rich said don't run anything slower than 35t, tho the drivers have been using 21.5t, so don't be surprised when your 45t smokes.


for the CVD pin problem, put a ring around it, wa-la, it'll stay in.

and CVDs break all the time and are a weak point on just about any rig, Jake has broken them on every rig I've seen him run (quite epically a few times), get extras, have tools nearby, fix it when it happens.

give them some time to work out the kinks, everyone agrees Losi is awesome, so trust them to take care of it. bringing up issues in a productive way so they know what to take care of is fine, but it seems like people are kind of bitching a little bit...
sorry christmas morning was so disappointing, but just because santa overlooked the Double-As that went in that most wanted toy, doesn't mean that it won't be as awesome as you hoped once you get it straightened out "thumbsup"

kikcaffine
05-30-2009, 04:29 PM
Oh I completly agree, I knew that there would be potential issues, but honestly I wanted it first!!! Im going to pick up some shrink wrap and wrap the CVD pins (old 1/10th racing trick "thumbsup") which will prevent them from being ejected.

MISFITCOMPER
05-30-2009, 04:31 PM
I'm not bitching at all. I'm glad I got first batch. I can have it brock in before most people get theirs. I wasn't shocked when I found loss ends, thats what happens. Even though it's just little things that are wrong with it is still an amazing rig.

Tanis
05-30-2009, 04:34 PM
you wanted it to be out quickly, but now you're wishing they had waited to make it better? which is it?
I'm-:?....I thought that's what the long wait was all about....getting all the kinks out before release:-P:mrgreen:"thumbsup"

latentimage74
05-30-2009, 04:42 PM
My slipper was like that, I tightened it up because it got frustrating that it couldn't even climb up a wall.

when you cranked down that slipper did the trans sound any louder, like grinding?

Del Montess
05-30-2009, 04:53 PM
Oh I completly agree, I knew that there would be potential issues, but honestly I wanted it first!!! Im going to pick up some shrink wrap and wrap the CVD pins (old 1/10th racing trick "thumbsup") which will prevent them from being ejected.

that's an awesome trick! I would've never thought of heat-shrink for CVD pins.

latentimage74
05-30-2009, 05:04 PM
Nice to see the losi out, still waiting on mine. :cry:

It seems to be plagued by the same intial issues the creeper was getting bashed about when it was first released..lol

No loctite, pins falling out, leaky shocks, cvd's breaking...and this is just from the few that post on here, not counting the thousands that have shipped world wide and the owners dont post here.

I got lucky and got a creepr from a later batch, no issues...so I hope my losi is not from one of the first batches when it arrives..fingers crossed. :shock:
did you just compare the losi to the creeper?:-P

kikcaffine
05-30-2009, 05:05 PM
when you cranked down that slipper did the trans sound any louder, like grinding?


I think, im going to rip it apart tonight or tomorrow and take a look at whats going on in there.

APESHAT
05-30-2009, 05:07 PM
sounds like the 'cookie monster'. . .

APESHAT
05-30-2009, 05:09 PM
that's an awesome trick! I would've never thought of heat-shrink for CVD pins.
It's been in RCCA and was even suggested for CVD's on the LST. .

latentimage74
05-30-2009, 05:26 PM
wow that sucks. im really starting to regret preordering a first batch truck....

i don't care what breaks or does not work, the high level of customer service we are getting makes it worth going through a couple of rough patches to have a bad ass rig!

Stormin2u
05-30-2009, 05:34 PM
I think, im going to rip it apart tonight or tomorrow and take a look at whats going on in there.

Now that sounds like a pretty good way to get to know the machine better and look things over a bit.

bustedcrawler
05-30-2009, 05:42 PM
Now that sounds like a pretty good way to get to know the machine better and look things over a bit.

Yup, and why I will do that before it ever hits the rocks. :lol: I tend to break a lot of stuff on EVERYTHING I own, so I want to know how to fix it ASAP, and also why I am placing a rush parts order so when my LHS gets them in I will have spares.

DiEzel
05-30-2009, 07:24 PM
less than 10 minutes of driving and a cvd shaft snapped in half. not the pin but the actual shaft. not happy to say the least. rich can you do anything about this?


Yup! same thing happend to me. First 5 for me...

Speedracer19
05-30-2009, 07:29 PM
You guys may not want to crank the steering all the way to the max, steering arm touching the "C" hub as this MAY be the cause. The BJ4WE that i run in off-road was doing the same thing until i back the EPA back a click or two.

Del Montess
05-30-2009, 07:32 PM
It's been in RCCA and was even suggested for CVD's on the LST. .

I only read RCCA when I know that there's crawling in it.
And I had to ask Jake what an LST was, haha. I only know crawling. I'm trying to learn racing stuff, I had a T4 until I broke the crap out of it and Jake's dad took it back, lol.

redbaron
05-30-2009, 07:48 PM
Im going to pick up some shrink wrap and wrap the CVD pins (old 1/10th racing trick "thumbsup") which will prevent them from being ejected.

Some may remember, most probably won't....... but when the CVD's first came out for the TLT's, the pins coming out was a big problem. Heat shrinking the cvd bell was one of the first thing I did to them!! I would also highly recommend it to any one that is having issues with this truck as well. Even if its not needed, its extra insurance!! "thumbsup"

Tanis
05-30-2009, 07:52 PM
I had a T4 until I broke the crap out of it and Jake's dad took it back, lol.What a meaner, you should go steal the F-toy to make up for it:ror:

Del Montess
05-30-2009, 08:02 PM
What a meaner, you should go steal the F-toy to make up for it:ror:

haha, I've been trying.
they think I'm driving it for fun, I'm really practicing for my getaway :twisted:

APESHAT
05-30-2009, 09:37 PM
I only read RCCA when I know that there's crawling in it.
And I had to ask Jake what an LST was, haha. I only know crawling. I'm trying to learn racing stuff, I had a T4 until I broke the crap out of it and Jake's dad took it back, lol.
I understand on the magazine- it's resourceful still! Yes Everythings here except the Print. . .I'm Jealous and Elated for You and Jake for being so involved in the production/design/distribution of the LOSI comp crawler- It's an HONOR.
Thanks for the Reply, I wasn't being a 'smartass' either. Rock On

lakedan5150
05-30-2009, 09:37 PM
So I'm really irritated..........
Went to my summer series put on by the BPRCA and made the mistake of taking a new rig.

My CVD broke after the start gate, first course, 1 minute, not even what I would call a "bind" situation.

These are apparently a big problem as I found after talking to King Bling, he went to the ECC and RCX and in 2 comps, more like 1 1/2 comps he watched Jake break 7!!!! As I understand it this has been a big problem and Jake has told Rich and well here we are.

I would've like to have known about this sooner, it totally screwed me in the summer series!!:evil:

Was planning on running the Losi in the WCC, doesnt look like it now, cant even get the parts for awhile.

Total F%$#@&g bummer!!!

Rich, help me out here!!!!!!!

Dark8ngel
05-30-2009, 09:56 PM
did you just compare the losi to the creeper?:-P

lol...yea, just all the initail issues the two comp ready kits shared, but I'm sure losi will provide the same quality service for the issues that venom has.

mines not here yet, but will get to see one at the comp sunday"thumbsup"

Nova's Ark
05-30-2009, 10:45 PM
Will these axles be available with standard dog bones in the front instead of CVD's? I heard the CVD's failed on the Losi's at the ECC and also a transmission. I heard the transmission failure was a fluke and had already been corrected in the production models. How much weight are the Losi test drivers running in the front bead locks?

I disagree guys about the CVD's. The ONLY brand CVD's I have ever experienced to have superior quality and strength are the Thunder Tech CVD's for the Clod. The Axial CVD's break regularly, and so do the TLT CVD's. GateKeeper runs his Axial with stock Axial dog bone shafts and so do a few guys in my local club. The stock Axial dog bones are plenty strong and allow you to run a lot of weight on the wheels, something you can't do with CVD's and expect long life.

IMO, since the Losi has front and rear dig, I would sacrifice a little turning radius for something that might be much stronger and allow me to run heavy beadlocks (something in the 14oz or slightly heavier range). Every terrain is different, but in East Texas, we crawl a lot of man made obstacles and the heavier weight is needed to perform well.


I guess I wasn't wrong for asking these questions back in April:roll:

And like it has already been said, I thought the long wait was to perfect the Losi by use of the Team Losi drivers. It would have been much better to lose sales due to impatient customers then to lose sales from a poor product. The poor product is much worse than impatient customers. I passed on buying a Losi today because of the problems it displayed at today's competition which only confirmed the rumors.

Freq E Tag
05-31-2009, 09:17 AM
As far as I know....

MIP makes CVD's for Thundertech and the TLT ones as well. They are usually the go to company for the manufacturers.

Losi used/uses them. Associated does/did as well.

I'd bet MIP didn't make these as the whole kits are built overseas.

They were THE company for CVD's. That said, the CVD's they made for the Axial were a big disappointment. Not sure if they, like a lot of other companies are outsourcing.

I know Losi will handle it, but any solution will take a few weeks to get rolling, so, in the interim, we will have to deal.

I'd like a standing order to go in immediately for extra CVDS.

dkingston
05-31-2009, 10:56 AM
As far as I know....

MIP makes CVD's for Thundertech and the TLT ones as well. They are usually the go to company for the manufacturers.

Losi used/uses them. Associated does/did as well.

I'd bet MIP didn't make these as the whole kits are built overseas.

They were THE company for CVD's. That said, the CVD's they made for the Axial were a big disappointment. Not sure if they, like a lot of other companies are outsourcing.

I know Losi will handle it, but any solution will take a few weeks to get rolling, so, in the interim, we will have to deal.

I'd like a standing order to go in immediately for extra CVDS.

MIP is not outsourcing from what I hear. I am not sure what happened with the Axial CVD's but I agree, MIP is the go-to source.


- DK

gunnar
05-31-2009, 11:30 AM
At least they got some stuff right. The MIP ball section is large, but the pin is tiny. IMO the things that it needs to survive longer: Deeper cup to move pin in further, thus giving room for a larger pin. Chamfer(bevel) on edge of cup for turning clearance. A few measurments would have to change, since the pin would have to line up with the screws on the "c", but the "c's" are just not large enough to make something that will last. What I would really like to see is a larger, deeper "c" and knuckle arragement, allowing more room for larger, stronger parts. It would entail alot, and be expensive, because it would mean a new c, knuckle, bearings, and most likely wheels with enough room on the backside to surround it all.

GySgt Hartman
05-31-2009, 12:57 PM
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm242/GySgtHartman/IMG_2245.jpg

First it was a Losi MRC bending a factory straight axle on a couch cushion, now it's the "comp crawler" breaking a CV driveshaft on the second gate of it's maiden comp.

For Sale:
3 wheel drive Losi 1/10 comp crawler, used once...

T600
05-31-2009, 01:41 PM
if you realy want to sell i will buy8)
its proberly a bad batch of axles like the summit had

Code454
05-31-2009, 01:45 PM
Hopefully they can fix the problems they are having but also the plastic on these rigs look cheap as well.

Colby
05-31-2009, 03:26 PM
Its broke during an off camber uphill climb. Dont believe it was bound up or anything.

In all honesty, i think you werent even going up hill at an off camber, you just turned left into the face of a rock and tried to get the tire to climb upwards.

Whatever else happens, i will stick to my berg "thumbsup"

Rckcrwlr
05-31-2009, 03:52 PM
MIP is not outsourcing from what I hear. I am not sure what happened with the Axial CVD's but I agree, MIP is the go-to source.


- DK

Don't know specifically with axial but MIP is only going to build the CVD's to the spec that the Manufacturer gives them. Now...I have never broke an MIP or TTR CVD...so with that, I would think that they are making sure that what they put out there is bulletproof. Both being smaller companies, they can do that...

Gt-358
05-31-2009, 03:53 PM
Add another broken CVD to the pile, though mine pop'd in a bit of bind. It wasn't a really bad bind, but I had to give it a little more throttle and it pop'd. Completed the course with 3wd lol

Tony

Crawlin4fun
05-31-2009, 04:06 PM
I'm-:?....I thought that's what the long wait was all about....getting all the kinks out before release:-P:mrgreen:"thumbsup"


Me too....the original release date was mid-march....I guess it wasn't worth the wait afterall.

Tad
05-31-2009, 04:22 PM
The TTR cvd's are mostly parts MIP already made. The outer stubs are from 1/8 scale that is why they use the bigger bearing's.I am betting the losi cvd's have a bad heat treat and the way the notches are cut in them look to be making a nice place for them to start twisting from.

kasper
05-31-2009, 06:13 PM
Well mine is sitting on the shelf looks like problems are occuring who would of thunk/.Well lets see if losi stands behind there cvd problems Venom took care of there customers they treated me very well may as well get er together and see hat happens.

P1choco
05-31-2009, 06:20 PM
The TTR cvd's are mostly parts MIP already made. The outer stubs are from 1/8 scale that is why they use the bigger bearing's.I am betting the losi cvd's have a bad heat treat and the way the notches are cut in them look to be making a nice place for them to start twisting from.

I'm thinking about hardening them then annealing them myself, but I would some spares to experiment with first. Hope Losi get's this resolved with a quickness.

ckd
05-31-2009, 06:22 PM
Mine just broke also. Looks just like the photo above. Wasn't doing anything hard just going up a wash by the house and noticed front wheel wasn't spinning. End of cvd just ripped off. First day out

willieone4x4
05-31-2009, 06:48 PM
Mine broke in 10 minutes. Wasn't doing anything hard either.

APESHAT
05-31-2009, 07:20 PM
Me too....the original release date was mid-march....I guess it wasn't worth the wait afterall.
1st date given was Febuary. . .It will be WORTH it , just hang in there- Parts/Customer support will come through!

mspohn
05-31-2009, 07:33 PM
mines on the way, sounds like They need to fix this problem and send everyone that purchased a truck the upgrade parts.

kikcaffine
05-31-2009, 07:38 PM
I know I started this thread, but I'd like to point out that people that are snapping these things quickly are using super high power set ups, IE: brushless and 2 and 3s, 35t and 3s. Thats a tremendous amount of stress on something thats getting nothing but traction.


I agree people are blowing it out of proportion, but it will be resolved, either by losi, or people finding other things that will fit in place of the stock cvds.
Either way its a pretty kick ass truck!

hbj069
05-31-2009, 07:41 PM
Yup I am with ya on that one. Anybody need a parts truck??
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181334

willieone4x4
05-31-2009, 08:28 PM
I know I started this thread, but I'd like to point out that people that are snapping these things quickly are using super high power set ups, IE: brushless and 2 and 3s, 35t and 3s. Thats a tremendous amount of stress on something thats getting nothing but traction.


I agree people are blowing it out of proportion, but it will be resolved, either by losi, or people finding other things that will fit in place of the stock cvds.
Either way its a pretty kick ass truck!

motor is a 55t.sidwinder esc.15t pinion.on 2s.Thats not super high power

raul duke
06-01-2009, 08:03 AM
I know I started this thread, but I'd like to point out that people that are snapping these things quickly are using super high power set ups, IE: brushless and 2 and 3s, 35t and 3s. Thats a tremendous amount of stress on something thats getting nothing but traction.


I agree people are blowing it out of proportion, but it will be resolved, either by losi, or people finding other things that will fit in place of the stock cvds.
Either way its a pretty kick ass truck!

I actually watched a friends truck run and fall apart on the 1st course yesterday. The first couple gates were fine then bam broken drivers cvd, he went toward the next gate small hill climb and bam passenger cvd and to top it all off it spits the drive shaft out at the top of the climb. Not a super high power rig, these were obstacles that most people made all day. Watchin what happened did not give me any faith in this product.

ckd
06-01-2009, 10:13 AM
What I don't understand is I thought there was so much testing done and there wasn't found to be any problems by the team drivers. I get one and 10 minutes in I'm running on three wheels. I understand things can happen and not bashing Losi but one would think a cvd would of lasted a little longer.

slowngreen
06-01-2009, 10:38 AM
What I don't understand is I thought there was so much testing done and there wasn't found to be any problems by the team drivers. I get one and 10 minutes in I'm running on three wheels. I understand things can happen and not bashing Losi but one would think a cvd would of lasted a little longer.

my feelings exactly! waited for so long for it to be released and everyone kept saying "be patient, their just making it so its perfect out of the box before they release it".....well i would have thought that the things like this would have been caught and fixed a long time ago.

davec
06-01-2009, 10:59 AM
This whole CVD issue is either a very serious oversight on Losi's part or some kind of heat treat/material issue from the vendor. I am sure Rich is going to be very busy over the next couple of weeks sorting this whole fiasco out. I can only hope that Losi bites the bullet on this one and does the right thing, only time will tell. Our shipment of Comp Crawlers will be in tomorrow, maybe we got a good batch.:mrgreen:

jdubya
06-01-2009, 06:31 PM
Broke mine crawling on the COUCH. passenger side front CVD. Just thought I would add my name to the list.

21.5 brushless novak with GTB esc 18 tooth pinion and a lipo. Other than that seems ok.

droogin
06-01-2009, 07:42 PM
Another cvd bites it. Looks like the Axial is not going too far out of reach.

kikcaffine
06-01-2009, 08:35 PM
I just ordered a pair off ebay, hopefully theres just something wrong with the ones being used in the trucks, and the spare parts ones are fine.

DiEzel
06-01-2009, 09:30 PM
I just ordered a pair off ebay, hopefully theres just something wrong with the ones being used in the trucks, and the spare parts ones are fine.



All the same run probably "thumbsup" Im sure the issue has just been caught and production on the CVD's came to a screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeching hault

88_Pathy
06-01-2009, 09:37 PM
I suppose this problem is the price we pay for buying a BRAND new product. I am sure it will be fixed in a month or 2. Venom took care of me and the last set of axles I broke were very brittle looking. The new one sent to me is holding strong for a month.

English Steve
06-02-2009, 12:29 PM
My only panic is i have the uk nationals on the 5th of july and ill be getting mine on the 18th of june do i even dare run it at the nats or do i run a bully or ax10 setup. dont get me wrong i love everything about the LCC i just dont want to risk losing cos i break a CVD

Speedracer19
06-02-2009, 12:47 PM
My only panic is i have the uk nationals on the 5th of july and ill be getting mine on the 18th of june do i even dare run it at the nats or do i run a bully or ax10 setup. dont get me wrong i love everything about the LCC i just dont want to risk losing cos i break a CVD
Just turn down the EPA & don't go full lock & you should be good.

English Steve
06-02-2009, 01:07 PM
Im thinking of buying some extra cvd's and trying heat treating them

kikcaffine
06-02-2009, 06:30 PM
Im thinking of buying some extra cvd's and trying heat treating them


Yeah thats what I did.

jafa0
06-02-2009, 06:43 PM
Im thinking of buying some extra cvd's and trying heat treating them

just a thought. typically if the metal lacks hardness it will bend or twist. when it is over hardened it tends to break clean, or shatter. I am thinking trying to harden them more may just make things worse.

kikcaffine
06-03-2009, 11:42 AM
Replacement parts came in today, so hopefully backing off the steering EPA's should take care of this. Also got a new drive cup, so Im going to replace the one that broke on that axle.

davec
06-04-2009, 08:38 AM
Just got my Comp Crawler last night and spent quite a bit of time looking at the front cvd's. Very apparent from looking at and playing with them that backing them a couple of clicks off full lock will be key to keeping them alive. By hand you can really feel the binding going on when they are at full lock. Go just a little bit off of full lock and they free up considerably. Not trying to take any pressure off Losi, because I think they made a little mistake in their design, but setting up your endpoints correctly will definitely keep this thing running longer. I have seen this issue time and again with people setting up vehicles, they seem to think that they need to hit the endpoints in order to get max steering. Sometimes a degree or two less steering will save the day. By the way, 2 Comp Crawlers running at our comp last night and neither one had any broken parts or steering issues.

JasonJones
06-04-2009, 08:58 AM
I know a few of you have gotten replacement CVDs from Rich already (way to go for the support!) ... Have these replacements held up? Are you breaking those as well? Do they look different? Taste?

Mine should be coming in the next week or so, just curious. (Gotta remember EPA's!!)

kikcaffine
06-04-2009, 02:01 PM
I know a few of you have gotten replacement CVDs from Rich already (way to go for the support!) ... Have these replacements held up? Are you breaking those as well? Do they look different? Taste?

Mine should be coming in the next week or so, just curious. (Gotta remember EPA's!!)


Look the same, haven't tried them yet, taste a bit different (little more metallic)

Rich Trujillo
06-04-2009, 02:30 PM
Those that have received replacement parts have been told that I can't guarantee that they are any better. It seems to be hit and miss and I'm thinking some bad parts got through. In mean time we will have a better part very very soon. If anyone breaks a CV, contact me and I'll send you a new one or two if needed.
Thanks,
Rich

hbj069
06-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Replacement parts came in today, so hopefully backing off the steering EPA's should take care of this. Also got a new drive cup, so Im going to replace the one that broke on that axle.


how did you get yours so fast. I aint even got a phone call or pm!!

tqcookie
06-04-2009, 02:58 PM
I know a few of you have gotten replacement CVDs from Rich already (way to go for the support!) ... Have these replacements held up? Are you breaking those as well? Do they look different? Taste?

Mine should be coming in the next week or so, just curious. (Gotta remember EPA's!!)

I recieved my replacements yesterday. Thanks for such a quick turn around Rich. Turned down the stearing to about 80% ran for about 25 minutes last night with no problems. Got into a couple of binds but nothing to serious.

Speedracer19
06-04-2009, 04:32 PM
Those that have received replacement parts have been told that I can't guarantee that they are any better. It seems to be hit and miss and I'm thinking some bad parts got through. In mean time we will have a better part very very soon. If anyone breaks a CV, contact me and I'll send you a new one or two if needed.
Thanks,
Rich

Thanks Rich.

kikcaffine
06-04-2009, 09:52 PM
how did you get yours so fast. I aint even got a phone call or pm!!

Cause they wuv me!:D

JasonJones
06-05-2009, 10:20 AM
Glad to hear the EPA's seem to be the solution so far (besides the few visually defective ones)...

Just because it physically can turn that far, doesn't mean it "should"... My car goes up to 120mph on the Speedo, that doesn't mean it can for very long :)

Mine should be here any day... should be fun...

69CrazyHorse
06-05-2009, 08:54 PM
Finished my buddys Losi tonight. He will drive it in his first comp tomorrow. It would suck after he waited 2 months to buy this rig and spent $1500+ in the last few days buying a Goat, 4PK, Charger, batteries, servos, rovers if the thing broke his first run. Rubbaneck will be at the comp I am sure I hope he carries extra parts in case some of the Losi drivers have issues. The pin in the rear driveshaft fell out 3 mins after it was taken out of the box while we were just looking at it.

I will tell you though this truck is very nicely designed IMO. I am a little jealous actually since I am driving what started as an Axial(you know how that goes). I am very impressed with the chassis layout, how the worms keep the axles locked unless you are on the throttle, the stock articulation, and the Dig system.

I think after the truck is broken in and they get some stronger CVD's I think this truck is going to be incredible. :ror:

kikcaffine
06-05-2009, 10:59 PM
Well the EPA isnt the solution. Crapped a CVD in less than 45 seconds. Did find a fix though.

droogin
06-12-2009, 01:39 PM
Thanks For the hook up on the axles Rich. The new ones you sent me are definately different than the ones that broke. The pin slot is not cut as deep. Fingers are crossed.