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Vp Monkey
06-29-2009, 10:35 PM
We are proud to release the Vanquish Products Hurtz Shifter Dig Unit for the Axial AX-10. This dig unit was designed to be a heavy duty unit for demanding pro drivers. the unit features many details that eliminate known problems for failure. ALL drive dogs are 440C stainless steel including stationary dogs mounted to the housing. Sliding mechanisms will not show galling, so only a small amount lubrication is needed. the dig has 6 points of engagement per revolution. The drive shaft output is stationary and does not slide in and out of the housing. Unit weighs in at 80 grams or .180 lbs. servo mount is located on the dig housing so most servo flex is eliminated. the Hurtz Shifter lever action give a mechanical advantage for the servo of 2.5 to 1 ratio. allowing a standard servo to man handle the shifting demands needed in competition crawling. Production units are being packaged now and all orders will ship this Friday July 3RD, and from preordered hobby stores. Price comes in at $83.99.. cheers :twisted:

Thomas


http://www.vanquishproducts.com/vp-dig-unit-opfr-axial-ax10.html

HBRC
06-29-2009, 10:38 PM
hah, ordered mine at 9:29pm, before you posted. Pays to surf crawler porn...:)

Tanis
06-29-2009, 10:39 PM
hah, ordered mine at 9:29pm, before you posted. Pays to surf crawler porn...:)
You are simply going to love this dig Chris"thumbsup" I promise ya8)

Siggy
06-29-2009, 10:40 PM
NICE n COOL! Looks compact/light and will be easy on the servo. Got any demo-video?"thumbsup"

HBRC
06-29-2009, 10:44 PM
You are simply going to love this dig Chris"thumbsup" I promise ya8)

hope to make the Rimrock comp with this VP dig on an SSS rolling some Poulsons...

Vp Monkey
06-29-2009, 10:48 PM
You are simply going to love this dig Chris"thumbsup" I promise ya8)

Were you with scuzzy on saturday night?

I guess they tried to break the dig as best they could :)

Red Rockcrawler
06-29-2009, 10:49 PM
hah, ordered mine at 9:29pm, before you posted. Pays to surf crawler porn...:)

Oh chris crawler porn works through many sites huh. It is bad to the bone spanks all the other digs i have owned. I run bergs but order one soon to have one

Played with it at wcc..Thanks to the VP crew being up there. Look at their new chassis also top notch.

bcbaja
06-29-2009, 10:58 PM
Hey I had you beat orderd @ 8:45pm.. No crawler porn here.

HBRC
06-29-2009, 11:06 PM
Hey I had you beat orderd @ 8:45pm.. No crawler porn here.

yup, saw your VP comment on EWRCRC, and off i went.

sorry to hear about your crawler porn deficiencies.:mrgreen:

HiloDB1
06-29-2009, 11:07 PM
Do you guys use any other shipping service other than UPS? Shipping to HI through UPS is rediculouse :shock:

SMR4RUNNER
06-29-2009, 11:09 PM
Were you with scuzzy on saturday night?

I guess they tried to break the dig as best they could :)

Dustin gave us a demo on Sunday. He held down his tires and applied torque till the front of his rig lifted of the ground about 45 degrees then engaged dig. No problem!!!! Great job guys. "thumbsup""thumbsup"

dieselfuel
06-29-2009, 11:43 PM
damn, i like that. i might have to try one for my rock racer.

HiloDB1
06-30-2009, 02:27 AM
Thanks for the PM. Order placed :mrgreen:

Nova's Ark
06-30-2009, 09:39 AM
Is there any chance this dig would truly work properly with a mini servo with between 30 - 50 ounces of torque? I want to replace my DNA dig with something liter, more compact and something that can truly use a micro or mini servo. I am trying to lower my center of gravity and currently must use a Hitec 645MG with the DNA dig.

Also, has anyone used one of these with Traxxas Maxx shafts yet? Is there enough material on the output to drill through for the cross pin used on the Maxx yoke? What material is the output shaft made of? Can it be drilled through?

BENDER
06-30-2009, 09:46 AM
I got my hands on one of these units during the Axial West Coast Championships this weekend. I can't wait to get it installed. Tons of awesome features in a super compact dig unit. "thumbsup"

Siggy
06-30-2009, 10:04 AM
Hi Thomas, can this be shipped via USPS 1st class please, Thanks!

Vp Monkey
06-30-2009, 10:34 AM
Hi Thomas, can this be shipped via USPS 1st class please, Thanks!

We do ship usps when requested, We just cant do it on our website for some reason. Just on the notes when placing the order inform us of the shipping method you want used.

Siggy
06-30-2009, 10:40 AM
We do ship usps when requested, We just cant do it on our website for some reason. Just on the notes when placing the order inform us of the shipping method you want used.

Thanks for the quick reply and the favorable resolution. You guys are so Cool! Cheers! "thumbsup"

Vp Monkey
06-30-2009, 10:46 AM
Is there any chance this dig would truly work properly with a mini servo with between 30 - 50 ounces of torque? I want to replace my DNA dig with something liter, more compact and something that can truly use a micro or mini servo. I am trying to lower my center of gravity and currently must use a Hitec 645MG with the DNA dig.

Also, has anyone used one of these with Traxxas Maxx shafts yet? Is there enough material on the output to drill through for the cross pin used on the Maxx yoke? What material is the output shaft made of? Can it be drilled through?


As for the dig servo size. I am currently using my old stock dx3.0 servo that came in the box from 5 years ago. It should be a z270 spektrum servo. Doing a google search it comes in at 43 oz/in @ 4.8V, 49 oz/in @ 6V. We did not want to do any testing with some over powered servo. We did our best to make a dig that can work with out destroying the servo in smaller oz sizes. And also keep the total price with out having to buy 100 dollar servos.

We are ordering some maxx shafts, to check into accomadating these also, or maybe as a option, since this package is already created.

Jim

Vp Monkey
06-30-2009, 10:47 AM
I got my hands on one of these units during the Axial West Coast Championships this weekend. I can't wait to get it installed. Tons of awesome features in a super compact dig unit. "thumbsup"


It was really cool to meet you. Wish we had more time to talk to you. But the kid got tired had to go home. :)

Jim

hotwheels000
06-30-2009, 01:53 PM
x2, that dig is awsome

Dustin gave us a demo on Sunday. He held down his tires and applied torque till the front of his rig lifted of the ground about 45 degrees then engaged dig. No problem!!!! Great job guys. "thumbsup""thumbsup"

MDcrawler72
06-30-2009, 01:55 PM
Will this dig work with the DNA 2.2 SSS chassis?

Thanks

Vp Monkey
06-30-2009, 02:14 PM
Will this dig work with the DNA 2.2 SSS chassis?

Thanks

We do not have a dna 2.2 sss chassis here.

But if a dna dig fits, I am positive our dig fits. We follow the ax-10 transmission case and the housing unit is 1.08" tall. the dna housing minus bushing sticking out measures 1.132" ? Plus the output to the drive shaft is stationary and does not move in and out of the housing.

MDcrawler72
06-30-2009, 02:21 PM
We do not have a dna 2.2 sss chassis here.

But if a dna dig fits, I am positive our dig fits. We follow the ax-10 transmission case and the housing unit is 1.08" tall. the dna housing minus bushing sticking out measures 1.132" ? Plus the output to the drive shaft is stationary and does not move in and out of the housing.

Thanks for the fast reply! "thumbsup"

EeePee
06-30-2009, 02:22 PM
That looks great!

Do you have an exploded view?

We are ordering some maxx shafts, to check into accomadating these also, or maybe as a option, since this package is already created.

Excellent! A 6 mm output with a hole would be so perfect...





... for me anyways. I'm using Maxx shafts and 6 mm outputs in the trans and 6 mm inputs at the axles.

Get that done, and I'm buying one of these.

Thank you!

Vp Monkey
06-30-2009, 02:25 PM
That looks great!

Do you have an exploded view?






http://www.vanquishproducts.com/vp-dig-unit-opfr-axial-ax10.html

Atm we have some pictures of all the parts. "thumbsup"

EeePee
06-30-2009, 02:27 PM
Thank you!

I asked because I'm curious if my CDW 6 mm output will bolt to your rear half. That way if you guys do the 6 mm output I can have a 6 mm output in front also.

8)

Robbob
06-30-2009, 02:57 PM
This thing is sick.



Any chance of offering a hole in the outdrive as an opition or would a normal drill bit and press go through this?

Cruzin Illusion
06-30-2009, 03:01 PM
I have got to see the dig first hand this weekend at the Vanquish Products shop and at the WCC. All's I can say is that you will not be disapointed. The dig can literally fit inside the DNA dig and your driveshaft does not move when the dig is engaged or disengaged. Do to the geometry you will not have to have a servo that puts out tons of force. Plus with the design the dig engages faster than any other dig I have seen. Again another amazing product from Vanquish.

Tanis
06-30-2009, 03:37 PM
Were you with scuzzy on saturday night?

I guess they tried to break the dig as best they could :)No, I wasn't there, but got the full story from Dustin:mrgreen:
I really enjoyed spending some time hanging out and chatting with ya Jim8)

Dustin gave us a demo on Sunday. He held down his tires and applied torque till the front of his rig lifted of the ground about 45 degrees then engaged dig. No problem!!!! Great job guys. "thumbsup""thumbsup"That was a great little test to watch:)

I got my hands on one of these units during the Axial West Coast Championships this weekend. I can't wait to get it installed. Tons of awesome features in a super compact dig unit. "thumbsup"8)8)

Will this dig work with the DNA 2.2 SSS chassis?

ThanksYes"thumbsup"

I asked because I'm curious if my CDW 6 mm output will bolt to your rear half. That way if you guys do the 6 mm output I can have a 6 mm output in front also.

8)
You can bolt the front CDW output the the VP rear output Eeep



I'll be installing my unit when I get a chance this week

EeePee
06-30-2009, 04:01 PM
You can bolt the front CDW output the the VP rear output Eeep

Thanks T. "thumbsup"

P1choco
06-30-2009, 06:23 PM
This thing is sick.



Any chance of offering a hole in the outdrive as an opition or would a normal drill bit and press go through this?


440C is some pretty tuff stuff. I have arrow heads made from this metal and they are a biatch to sharpen and take a beating like no other arrowhead I've ever used.

Raped_Ape
07-01-2009, 12:37 AM
After seeing Jims rig run around down at Vanquish, I am sold. Hard to beat those SIX points of contact. Butter smooth!"thumbsup"

cfox109
07-02-2009, 05:37 PM
Nice! Finaly a dig that wasnt a copy cat. Ill have to get one of these

barbaricboye
07-02-2009, 08:25 PM
just ordered one, Steve.

thanks for answering my questions over the phone... your confidence in this dig really swayed me to BUY NOW instead of waiting for reviews.(go ahead and wait for the reviews, according to Steve-they got like 2k units in stock).

looks like im sticking to a shafty."thumbsup"

FYI- this is a 3 position dig. I guess no one has asked yet.

exesivefire
07-02-2009, 10:06 PM
I'm glad I waited...

this looks NICE "thumbsup"

SDheavymetal
07-02-2009, 11:15 PM
How many OZ servo do you recommend? Is the mount for for a normal or micro?

tom@vp
07-02-2009, 11:39 PM
we have not figured out how low is safe yet, jim is running a 43 oz/in @ 4.8V, 49 oz/in @ 6V and its flawless. the mount is currently for a standard servo. we will get a flood of information in the comming days. there has been quite a few orders shipped out today.

jeeper_05
07-02-2009, 11:47 PM
we have not figured out how low is safe yet, jim is running a 43 oz/in @ 4.8V, 49 oz/in @ 6V and its flawless. the mount is currently for a standard servo. we will get a flood of information in the comming days. there has been quite a few orders shipped out today.

Will there be a mini servo mount in the future?

Vp Monkey
07-03-2009, 12:25 AM
Will there be a mini servo mount in the future?


Yes sir, soon as we catch up on regular mounts. lower cog !

littleskull99
07-03-2009, 02:42 AM
How much travel does the servo have to have?

BigSki
07-03-2009, 11:20 AM
I was looking at the exploded view that RPP has on their site for this dig, and I have a question. In the view, directly under neath of the rear out drive, there is a dog clutch that has the 3 teeth and it has a hex shape in the inner bore.

Does that part slip over the rear outdrive and "float" in place or does it use set screws?

I'm really liking the design of your dig unit, I just want to be sure on how it works. My homemade dig using OG brusier tranny gears is holding up, but I want to replace it with something that has a better designed housing.

Tanis
07-04-2009, 12:14 PM
I was looking at the exploded view that RPP has on their site for this dig, and I have a question. In the view, directly under neath of the rear out drive, there is a dog clutch that has the 3 teeth and it has a hex shape in the inner bore.

Does that part slip over the rear outdrive and "float" in place or does it use set screws?

I'm really liking the design of your dig unit, I just want to be sure on how it works. My homemade dig using OG brusier tranny gears is holding up, but I want to replace it with something that has a better designed housing.It uses a set screw to hold it from moving front to back, but all the force is taken by the hex"thumbsup"

pellinor61
07-05-2009, 03:48 AM
How well will it fit inside an hbz warthog? Will I have to remove tabs and what-not to get it to fit inside?

Mudsy
07-05-2009, 10:44 AM
Some action video of shifting would be nice. That way we would know how much servo have to travel and how it fits in various chassises. I have dna dig which is great. But this dig looks way cooler and wanted to know if it will hold up well as the dna dig.

willashcroft
07-06-2009, 05:51 AM
How much travel does the servo have to have?
As far as you want to throw it, Matt. :mrgreen: :roll::razz:

BigSki
07-06-2009, 07:48 AM
It uses a set screw to hold it from moving front to back, but all the force is taken by the hex"thumbsup"


perfect! I figured as much, as VP seems to get their designs and engineering right the first time. "thumbsup" Looks like I'll be getting one.

Tupers
07-06-2009, 08:21 AM
Woo Hoo I ordered two of these and a set of Razors for my Limey last night. :twisted:

You gotta respect the shinny. :mrgreen:

Vp Monkey
07-06-2009, 09:30 AM
How well will it fit inside an hbz warthog? Will I have to remove tabs and what-not to get it to fit inside?


We do not have a warthog here. But the Incision chassis is only 2" wide from the innner chassis pieces.I dont know if that helps.

Jim

Vp Monkey
07-06-2009, 09:31 AM
How much travel does the servo have to have?


Well the shifter arm only has to move .775. "thumbsup"

Vp Monkey
07-06-2009, 09:33 AM
perfect! I figured as much, as VP seems to get their designs and engineering right the first time. "thumbsup" Looks like I'll be getting one.


We appreciate the kind words. We are not perfect, but we do our best to view as many problems as possible. Me and Tom usualy sit down and beat ideas against each others. Make sure the other person can validate his idea.

Nova's Ark
07-06-2009, 09:45 AM
Any word yet on drilling the rear output to accept a Maxx yoke and cross pin? I am ready to buy one of these digs, but I want to be absolutely certain it will work with what I already have in the rig. I also like the idea of using a micro servo, what's an ETA for when the micro mount for the dig will be ready?

Vp Monkey
07-06-2009, 09:50 AM
Any word yet on drilling the rear output to accept a Maxx yoke and cross pin? I am ready to buy one of these digs, but I want to be absolutely certain it will work with what I already have in the rig. I also like the idea of using a micro servo, what's an ETA for when the micro mount for the dig will be ready?

I think the major problem with this, from what I have read, is the maxx shafts are 6mm? and this was designed for 5mm. I have not had a chance to order them to confirm this yet though.

Nova's Ark
07-06-2009, 10:17 AM
We are ordering some maxx shafts, to check into accomadating these also, or maybe as a option, since this package is already created.

Jim

I think the major problem with this, from what I have read, is the maxx shafts are 6mm? and this was designed for 5mm. I have not had a chance to order them to confirm this yet though.

I thought you already ordered them and were looking into it:roll:

Here are the yokes:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=4928x&search=Go
(http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=4928x&search=Go) Traxxas Part# 4928X



You will find that the mounting surface for the yokes are not 6mm round. Have you ever owned a T Maxx or E Maxx? Traxxas has two flat spots top and bottom on the output shafts. Traxxas also drills a hole in the outputs. CDW has 6mm outputs because they are strong, a little over sized and require a person to drill the Maxx yoke to fit over the output. You might be surprised how easily a Maxx shaft will work with your dig and it may only require you to drill a hole in the output.

My son and I ran the same maxx shafts for 10 months in our 2.2 comp rigs for the TXRCRCA ETC '08-'09 season. We were not easy on them either. We both were running 3S lipo, 1000KV Holmes Hobbies brushless out runners, all steel gears in the Axial transmission, CDW output, 96 tooth spur, 18 tooth pinion, etc. The Maxx shafts held and have been doing so for years in other crawlers we own. Every once in while you might twist a drive shaft, but they are cheap and easy to replace.

We ran DNA digs last season and they are big, bulky and heavy. My son also snapped a few of the rear outputs on them. I want something strong, lite weight, truly uses a micro servo, and is maxx shaft compatible. Your dig is very close to meeting those requirements. I am not trying to pester you or waste your time. If your dig can work for me, I will buy at least one, probably two and pimp your product every time my son and I comp.

Vp Monkey
07-06-2009, 10:44 AM
I thought you already ordered them and were looking into it:roll:


We will be when we find a minute to get to it. Between releasing a new product like this and 4th of july weekend time ran out very fast on each day. Sorry for the delay to this solution.

theslowguy
07-06-2009, 04:35 PM
If these will be available with a 6mm input and output for the maxx shafts then I will be forced to buy one too.:)"thumbsup"

Tupers
07-06-2009, 04:50 PM
Nova, Traxxas do Maxx yokes for a 5MM output as well. They are used on the tranny outputs of the original T-maxx part no. 4927X. No need to have different shaft made. "thumbsup"

Nova's Ark
07-06-2009, 05:02 PM
Nova, Traxxas do Maxx yokes for a 5MM output as well. They are used on the tranny outputs of the original T-maxx part no. 4927X. No need to have different shaft made. "thumbsup"

I thought you already ordered them and were looking into it:roll:

Here are the yokes:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=4928x&search=Go
(http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=4928x&search=Go) Traxxas Part# 4928X

You will find that the mounting surface for the yokes are not 6mm round. Have you ever owned a T Maxx or E Maxx? Traxxas has two flat spots top and bottom on the output shafts. Traxxas also drills a hole in the outputs. CDW has 6mm outputs because they are strong, a little over sized and require a person to drill the Maxx yoke to fit over the output. You might be surprised how easily a Maxx shaft will work with your dig and it may only require you to drill a hole in the output.


I already know that Tupers:roll:. I am not asking specifically for a 6mm shaft although it would be nice. I want VP to drill the output shafts and check to see if they will fit the Maxx yoke I linked to.

The DNA dig had aluminum outputs which were easy to drill through but is sounds like the VP dig is made from better and stronger material. I doubt I can drill through the outputs on the VP dig and with more and more dig options becoming available, why buy one from a company that won't work when another company probably has a new one coming out that will?

bcbaja
07-06-2009, 08:30 PM
Got mine in the mail today. Great craftmanship, now just waiting on a new chassis and a few other parts. Pics soon.

OGmicromonster
07-07-2009, 12:08 AM
OMG! I just installed mine in my GC2 chassis and it fits perfectly. Fit and finish is top notch. I did a little testing in the driveway tonight and it shifts like butter. Engages and disengages flawlessly every time. Now I just need to get it on a course for some real testing. BTW I'm using an airtronics 738 servo and it's probably more than I need. Great product!

Toy80
07-07-2009, 03:57 AM
Is there any sort of instructions so i can get an idea how it all goes together?

Vp Monkey
07-07-2009, 10:12 AM
Is there any sort of instructions so i can get an idea how it all goes together?


Written step by step instructions come in the package, along with part break down, and a assembly view. "thumbsup"

Fishmaxx
07-07-2009, 10:26 AM
I got my hands on one of these units during the Axial West Coast Championships this weekend. I can't wait to get it installed. Tons of awesome features in a super compact dig unit. "thumbsup"

I also got to play with one at AWCC, and really liked the way the shifter worked. It should dramatically improve reliability when shifting"thumbsup"

Toy80
07-07-2009, 06:25 PM
I have ordered a silver one...They are available yes?

With people talking about servo plates for smaller servo's, VP could just make an adapter to suit the existing one making the best of both.

Vp Monkey
07-07-2009, 11:03 PM
I have ordered a silver one...They are available yes?

With people talking about servo plates for smaller servo's, VP could just make an adapter to suit the existing one making the best of both.


Silver is in stock.

axman2010
07-08-2009, 12:22 AM
I already know that Tupers:roll:.



Why must you keep rolling your eyes? Its kind of childish...



Sorry VP for the off topic, but its annoying and seems disrespectful

barbaricboye
07-08-2009, 08:22 PM
OMG! I just installed mine in my GC2 chassis and it fits perfectly. Fit and finish is top notch. I did a little testing in the driveway tonight and it shifts like butter. Engages and disengages flawlessly every time. Now I just need to get it on a course for some real testing. BTW I'm using an airtronics 738 servo and it's probably more than I need. Great product!


Pics please....... I have a GC2 also, but mine doesn't fit.(I had to widen the chassis).

EDIT: moved my rear upper links...now it fits and works great, except I have a slight wobble in the rear driveshaft where it exits dig unit, is my set screw too tight?

HiloDB1
07-08-2009, 08:47 PM
Got my dig installed in my DNA SSS. Perfect fit and it sits low which is a big plus. So far I love it :mrgreen:

Tanis
07-08-2009, 11:26 PM
OMG! I just installed mine in my GC2 chassis and it fits perfectly. Fit and finish is top notch. I did a little testing in the driveway tonight and it shifts like butter. Engages and disengages flawlessly every time. Now I just need to get it on a course for some real testing. BTW I'm using an airtronics 738 servo and it's probably more than I need. Great product!
Glad you're liking it"thumbsup"

HiloDB1
07-08-2009, 11:32 PM
As an FYI for those running HH Cobalt Puller motors. They do not fit with the full size servo mount supplied with the dig unit. I just tried it and the motor hits the servo.

tom@vp
07-09-2009, 01:04 AM
if you are having trouble getting this to fit in your setup, please send in a picture, or a couple showing the interference so we can work on fixes.

HiloDB1
07-09-2009, 01:50 AM
Tom,

I just sent an email with the pics you asked for. If you need anything else please let me know.

Thanks "thumbsup"

OGmicromonster
07-09-2009, 10:08 AM
glad you're liking it"thumbsup"

yes!!

best dig ever!

Now we'll see how it holds up over time.

salmonshark
07-10-2009, 02:20 PM
Excuse the newb question - but working on my end points for my dig - I am using a 2pos 3rd channel and want to know where I should but my end points too... Seems as if I set the servo to throw the lever all the way forward, and the dogs are not engaged, it takes quite a bit force until the lock into position... should it be fairly easy to turn the drive line by hand to lock in the dogs or should it be really tough to turn them by hand and once locked in, set the end point there? I have it set currently so it is easy enough to turn by hand and lock in... And the same for setting the rwd locked position.... Just don't want to damage the internals or the servo... Let me know if more information is needed.... I am using a JR Z590 servo for my dig...

Thanks!
SS

barbaricboye
07-10-2009, 02:52 PM
Excuse the newb question - but working on my end points for my dig - I am using a 2pos 3rd channel and want to know where I should but my end points too... Seems as if I set the servo to throw the lever all the way forward, and the dogs are not engaged, it takes quite a bit force until the lock into position... should it be fairly easy to turn the drive line by hand to lock in the dogs or should it be really tough to turn them by hand and once locked in, set the end point there? I have it set currently so it is easy enough to turn by hand and lock in... And the same for setting the rwd locked position.... Just don't want to damage the internals or the servo... Let me know if more information is needed.... I am using a JR Z590 servo for my dig...

Thanks!
SS

you might be wanting an answer from VP, but I'll try to help.
I have the shifter set so it touches(barely) the dig housing when in 4wd, and rear lock. and obviously floating in the middle when rear freewheel(this doesn't apply to you with a 2 pos 3rd channel)

mine clicks loudly into 4wd and rear lock-takes some force(maybe a 1/4 revolution of tires?)by hand, but when actually driving doesn't seem bad at all. It'll bind for a second til cogs line up(I think).

make sure you're linkage is long enough. or re-center your servo horn if not getting enough "throw".

the internals, as long as your shifter is as far forward(for 4wd) and back(rear lock) as it can go, you will not be messing up the internals.

think I read your post right, if not, hopefully it can help somebody.

salmonshark
07-10-2009, 04:07 PM
you might be wanting an answer from VP, but I'll try to help.
I have the shifter set so it touches(barely) the dig housing when in 4wd, and rear lock. and obviously floating in the middle when rear freewheel(this doesn't apply to you with a 2 pos 3rd channel)

mine clicks loudly into 4wd and rear lock-takes some force(maybe a 1/4 revolution of tires?)by hand, but when actually driving doesn't seem bad at all. It'll bind for a second til cogs line up(I think).

make sure you're linkage is long enough. or re-center your servo horn if not getting enough "throw".

the internals, as long as your shifter is as far forward(for 4wd) and back(rear lock) as it can go, you will not be messing up the internals.

think I read your post right, if not, hopefully it can help somebody.

OK that helps actually... Going forward I can see that the motor will drive it enough to lock the dogs up properly allowing the lever to move the rest of the way forward.

And I would think, that you wouldn't want the back overly tight before the dogs line up because dragging the rear tires may not move it enough to lock up.

I have plenty of room to adjust that is for sure. Just want my end points set so the servo isn't in a constant working state and that the dogs will still engage properly. Being my first dig, I am a little gun shy on that part I guess.

Hopefully VP can chime in with what they think is the best setup as well.

Thanks again!
SS

tom@vp
07-10-2009, 05:18 PM
sounds like you got the idea, i dont think you can hurt the dig at all, spin the tires and slam in and out of gear. "thumbsup"

OK that helps actually... Going forward I can see that the motor will drive it enough to lock the dogs up properly allowing the lever to move the rest of the way forward.

And I would think, that you wouldn't want the back overly tight before the dogs line up because dragging the rear tires may not move it enough to lock up.

I have plenty of room to adjust that is for sure. Just want my end points set so the servo isn't in a constant working state and that the dogs will still engage properly. Being my first dig, I am a little gun shy on that part I guess.

Hopefully VP can chime in with what they think is the best setup as well.

Thanks again!
SS

miniwheeler
07-11-2009, 12:40 AM
Im running this dig setup on my AX-10. Flawless machine work and design, butter smooth shifting, compact and bombproof.

Manning
07-11-2009, 07:06 PM
The Vanquish dig worked great at today's comp. "thumbsup"

can't say that about the driver however.....

JOYSTICK
07-11-2009, 07:10 PM
sounds like you got the idea, i dont think you can hurt the dig at all, spin the tires and slam in and out of gear. "thumbsup"


you know guys i own just about everything VP puts out including the 40 series rims for my super and 2.2 and even the mini but i just got done beating up the new VP dig and i'll tell yous guys this it's awsome no doubt the best one out there. smooth as butter, nice job guys "thumbsup""thumbsup"

iluvmud
07-12-2009, 08:04 PM
i want it, but im tight on space in my tuber, i have a high torque MG mini servo, im hoping you come out with a plate for the mini hi-tech servos... :)

LMK MUD

Siggy
07-12-2009, 10:12 PM
Installed a HH 7T Cobalt Puller. the futaba low profile servo sits perfect "thumbsup".

BTW: the low profile servo of HITEC won't fit dimension are too wide.

SDheavymetal
07-13-2009, 07:39 PM
Installed a HH 7T Cobalt Puller. the futaba low profile servo sits perfect "thumbsup".

BTW: the low profile servo of HITEC won't fit dimension are too wide.

Whats the #of the Futaba low porfile servo? I might use my son's Puller.
Thanks

Siggy
07-13-2009, 07:55 PM
Whats the #of the Futaba low porfile servo? I might use my son's Puller.
Thanks

Futaba S9550

minicracker
07-14-2009, 09:47 AM
what is a good power rating for the servo. will 85 do the job or larger. i hear you can overpower this thing so that all that leverage wont let the dog slip to the next lock.?

Siggy
07-16-2009, 05:59 AM
Here are some pictures with a 7T Puller and the Futaba Low Profile Servo "thumbsup"

106506

106509

106508

106507

106510

Vp Monkey
07-16-2009, 08:18 PM
Here are some pictures with a 7T Puller and the Futaba Low Profile Servo "thumbsup"

106506

106509

106508

106507

106510


looks like a perfect fit "thumbsup"

Nova's Ark
07-16-2009, 08:25 PM
Any word on the Maxx yoke or mini servo mount?

Tupers
07-17-2009, 11:12 AM
Does anyone know of a cheaper alternative to the 9550 low prof servo for those you us using Coblat motors?

Offroader5
07-17-2009, 07:38 PM
Does anyone know of a cheaper alternative to the 9550 low prof servo for those you us using Coblat motors?

Interested in knowing this myself. Looking into picking up one of these and I love my Cobalts.

What about a wedge of sorts (acetal or alum) that could be used where the servo bracket screws to the dig case....that effectively rotates the servo bracket from being vertical to an angle that will bring the back of the servo upward so it would be more likely to extend above the motor?

tom@vp
07-17-2009, 07:57 PM
we are working on a kewl new bracket, but we are having a comp this weekend and it has taken a "bit" of time out of the schedual. and there are a few more new products being introduce at the comp.

HiloDB1
07-17-2009, 08:03 PM
I think a mini servo mount would be perfect for those with Cobalt motors. It will provide enough room to squeeze the motor in there and not change the overall size of the bracket much.

Offroader5
07-17-2009, 08:09 PM
we are working on a kewl new bracket, but we are having a comp this weekend and it has taken a "bit" of time out of the schedual. and there are a few more new products being introduce at the comp.

Ok, that's cool. I personally am not in a hurry...just good to know you guys are working on something for it "thumbsup"

Siggy
07-18-2009, 04:03 AM
looks like a perfect fit "thumbsup"

Yup, they actually fit and work perfectly! "thumbsup"

Tupers
07-20-2009, 04:38 PM
OK dumb question but one worth asking.

What alloy gearbox cases will work with the Hurtz dig unit?
Most I've seen aren't exact replicas of the plastic originals so don't want to buy one and find it isn't gunna work. I don't mind a little filing but I don't want to start hacking into a brand new alu case. :shock:

Locked Up
07-20-2009, 09:41 PM
Anyone have any online pics of how it all goes together?

I'm just looking to see what rides on what, etc.


Looks sharp BTW."thumbsup"

Toy80
07-21-2009, 09:53 PM
While this Dig is my first Dig ever, it has left a mighty impression on me...wow! faultless on every shift.

Siggy
07-21-2009, 10:07 PM
Does anyone know of a cheaper alternative to the 9550 low prof servo for those you us using Coblat motors?

Here are the dimensions of the S9550.
Weight: 1.6 oz (45g)
Length: 1.6" (41mm)
Width: 0.8" (20mm)
Height: 1.0" (25mm)

The fit is quite precise with extremely minimal tolerance-- it will be a bit tedious, but you'll have to do a match-up as there seem not to be a standard sized for these low-profile servos (e.g. Hitec low-profile servo).

Must have all dimensions exactly or slightly less. "thumbsup"

willashcroft
07-24-2009, 12:57 AM
Anyone have any online pics of how it all goes together?

I'm just looking to see what rides on what, etc.


Looks sharp BTW."thumbsup"
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w353/Tupers125/Limey/IMG_3934.jpg
Thankyou for letting me rob one of your pics, Chris!!! "thumbsup"

barbaricboye
07-24-2009, 01:42 AM
we are working on a kewl new bracket, .


is there an eta for the smaller servo bracket?

willashcroft
07-25-2009, 04:17 PM
Yeah, it's called fabbing one up, 8)
THESE DIGS ARE AMAZING! ENGAGE/DISENGAGE BRILLIANTLY!
Well done vanquish, "thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"

barbaricboye
07-25-2009, 04:39 PM
Yeah, it's called fabbing one up, 8)
T


aye aye, SIR.8)

asking VP..... by the way. but thanks for the suggestion."thumbsup"

willashcroft
07-26-2009, 07:15 AM
:mrgreen:im running the stock axial rtr servo, i think it's a rebranded s3003?3 servo, it works fine. "thumbsup"
a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh_iGFFu9xw :mrgreen: sorry about the end...:shock::oops:

gunnar
07-26-2009, 03:02 PM
Yeah, it's called fabbing one up, 8)
THESE DIGS ARE AMAZING! ENGAGE/DISENGAGE BRILLIANTLY!
Well done vanquish, "thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"

Fabbed one:

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo38/gunnarax10/miniservmnt1.jpg

Creepy Inc.
07-27-2009, 10:18 PM
This is the next big thing in crawling hands down. VP is the best. Even did my order Old School and, yes Steve the install went smoth. Even fit right in my SWX. I must say thou MIP drive shafts wont fit under the servo, So I was wondering if we are going to see VP StainLess drives that will fit? :idea:

Here are some pic's of my set up.

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/tonka3000/Otis%20H%20Horton/IMG_3662.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/tonka3000/Otis%20H%20Horton/IMG_3686.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/tonka3000/Otis%20H%20Horton/IMG_3685.jpg

This is what the MIP looks like on it.

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/tonka3000/Otis%20H%20Horton/IMG_3661.jpg

Top Notch Work Guys & girl."thumbsup"

Toy80
07-28-2009, 02:46 AM
Junfac 82-117mm Stainless shafts fit.

tom@vp
07-28-2009, 09:01 AM
could you loosen up the servo plate screw holes that mount to the dig a bit and lift the servo plate a bit to clear the mips then tighten the screws ? could even try slotting one of the screw holes a tiny bit.


This is the next big thing in crawling hands down. VP is the best. Even did my order Old School and, yes Steve the install went smoth. Even fit right in my SWX. I must say thou MIP drive shafts wont fit under the servo, So I was wondering if we are going to see VP StainLess drives that will fit? :idea:

Here are some pic's of my set up.

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/tonka3000/Otis%20H%20Horton/IMG_3662.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/tonka3000/Otis%20H%20Horton/IMG_3686.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/tonka3000/Otis%20H%20Horton/IMG_3685.jpg

This is what the MIP looks like on it.

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/tonka3000/Otis%20H%20Horton/IMG_3661.jpg

Top Notch Work Guys & girl."thumbsup"

gunnar
07-28-2009, 10:19 AM
could you loosen up the servo plate screw holes that mount to the dig a bit and lift the servo plate a bit to clear the mips then tighten the screws ? could even try slotting one of the screw holes a tiny bit.

That's what I did(loosening and lifting up mount) and it just barely cleared the MIP driveshaft. It's close, but nothing hit.

And for VP, if you make a 225 sized mount, it can be lowered about 1/8" from the stock one. I'm sure you'll see when you design it.

Creepy Inc.
07-28-2009, 01:11 PM
could you loosen up the servo plate screw holes that mount to the dig a bit and lift the servo plate a bit to clear the mips then tighten the screws ? could even try slotting one of the screw holes a tiny bit.

I'm not sure I get it. In this pic with the Axail stock shaft the ring that is on it rubs the sevro. http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/tonka3000/Otis%20H%20Horton/IMG_3662.jpg

In this pick the angle that the shaft pionts down is all it will come up. It looks like the whole mount/servo would need to be moved up. http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr10/tonka3000/Otis%20H%20Horton/IMG_3661.jpg

Thanks, Allen Repass

Creepy Inc.
07-28-2009, 01:26 PM
Junfac 82-117mm Stainless shafts fit.
Are these the ones you are talking about? Would they need to be cut?

Gunnar Even if you can get it to fit with the mount losse wouldn't it just go right back in the same place when you tight'n it back up?

gunnar
07-28-2009, 01:37 PM
When I put mine together, yes at first it did hit, but after I loosened it up, I lifted the back of the mount as I tightened it, and it gave me the room, but it was VERY close, I'd say a hundredth of an inch clearance. If yours still hits after doing that, then you could take a small file or dremel and make the bottom of the rear mount hole lower by just a small amount, that should give you enough clearance.

saydee1800
07-28-2009, 01:57 PM
what is the best tork 133oz

gunnar
07-28-2009, 02:11 PM
Well, the 225MG is only 67 in/oz at 6 volts, and is working the dig fine. I think it will work with even less torque, so you could probably use whatever you got on hand.

Toy80
07-29-2009, 04:41 PM
Are these the ones you are talking about? Would they need to be cut?



Nope fit straight on, this is with the SSS chassis though.

I'm also thinking you may just find it easier to make up an alloy extension that will bring the servo up from the dig a bit further, a flat bit of alloy plate should do it.

saydee1800
07-29-2009, 06:23 PM
I can't find my instruction:cry:

is there a pdf

please help

Creepy Inc.
07-29-2009, 07:51 PM
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w353/Tupers125/Limey/IMG_3934.jpg
Thankyou for letting me rob one of your pics, Chris!!! "thumbsup"

I can't find my instruction:cry:

is there a pdf

please help
Dose this help?

tom@vp
07-29-2009, 08:08 PM
pm sent


Thx creepy !

I can't find my instruction:cry:

is there a pdf

please help

Tupers
07-30-2009, 12:33 PM
VP, I'm sure you've already figured this out but when you make the mini servo mount if you use the top right hole it will give clearance for a Cobalt motor. (see pics) "thumbsup"


http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w353/Tupers125/Limey/IMG_4018.jpg

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w353/Tupers125/Limey/IMG_4013.jpg

saydee1800
07-30-2009, 12:40 PM
pm sent


Thx creepy !


Thank you "thumbsup"

You guy's are top notch

Tupers
07-30-2009, 12:44 PM
Also forgot to mention that with a HS-225MG mounted like that you can bolt a full Maxx shaft up with no clearance issues.

willashcroft
07-31-2009, 04:33 AM
Also forgot to mention that with a HS-225MG mounted like that you can bolt a full Maxx shaft up with no clearance issues.

Are you gonna fab one up then? :flipoff:

Creepy Inc.
08-03-2009, 08:51 PM
Hey me again. I was checking out some other rigs at a comp sunday and I found there to be a clear diff in one of the other guys VP dig. He was one of the 1st to order one and, his mount sets up a good bit higher then mine & one other guys dose. He has a MIP on his rear with it not even close to hitting but, One other club mate ordered his bout the same time as me and his stock drive rubs some just like mine. Did Yall change something by any chance :?:.

On a nother note, It was just GD flawless in the comp. Set the thing up and have not had to tune it at all. "thumbsup"

Vp Monkey
08-04-2009, 12:42 PM
The first 15 or so where lower than the current production model. After realizing this minor issue, We threw away all the parts in the shop, and raised it up about .05 to add just a little more clearance. "thumbsup"

but only the original few had the lower servo mount.

Jim

Hey me again. I was checking out some other rigs at a comp sunday and I found there to be a clear diff in one of the other guys VP dig. He was one of the 1st to order one and, his mount sets up a good bit higher then mine & one other guys dose. He has a MIP on his rear with it not even close to hitting but, One other club mate ordered his bout the same time as me and his stock drive rubs some just like mine. Did Yall change something by any chance :?:.

On a nother note, It was just GD flawless in the comp. Set the thing up and have not had to tune it at all. "thumbsup"

Creepy Inc.
08-04-2009, 06:01 PM
IDK Thats werid. I will try to get Typhoon to post some pics of his. There is a big diff in his over mine and Mike's. He has a MIP on his & Mike and I can in no way get one to fit.
Thanks, Allen

Typhoon
08-04-2009, 07:12 PM
No photos right now, but Allen is right, the mount is perfect on my dig.
I did not even give it a thought until he said something about it.
If it helps, Mine was ordered around the end of June, they ordered about a week later.

Vp Monkey
08-04-2009, 10:22 PM
IDK Thats werid. I will try to get Typhoon to post some pics of his. There is a big diff in his over mine and Mike's. He has a MIP on his & Mike and I can in no way get one to fit.
Thanks, Allen

send me a pm with your address, We will get one out to you. "thumbsup"

Creepy Inc.
08-05-2009, 11:02 PM
PM Sent.
Thanks "thumbsup"

dickwart
08-11-2009, 04:52 PM
FLAWLESS! Great work on these bad boys! First comp w/ it in last sunday. Worked every time. Had to laugh at my buddies DNA stickin...

saydee1800
08-11-2009, 07:18 PM
I have MIP shaft in the swx the back does not want to compress on the way.

I have the other one that is cut for a dna dig when it compresses the rear loose there drive

Siggy
08-11-2009, 10:38 PM
I have MIP shaft in the swx the back does not want to compress on the way.

I have the other one that is cut for a dna dig when it compresses the rear loose there drive

Looks like you need to get the regular length MIP's for the rear, then cut both front and rear a few mm at a time, until you get the correct length.

Creepy Inc.
08-12-2009, 09:01 PM
Got my plate thanx "thumbsup"

Now I just need the time to put it on.

khwilliams
08-13-2009, 11:43 PM
I found out that the new Vp Hurst dig will not work with the S3R Alum Tranny Case, was this dig designed only for the stock Axial Tranny?

tom@vp
08-14-2009, 12:17 AM
I found out that the new Vp Hurst dig will not work with the S3R Alum Tranny Case, was this dig designed only for the stock Axial Tranny?

yes specifically for the stock axial tranny."thumbsup" oh yea and the vanquish axial tranny case

chetly
08-14-2009, 01:42 AM
yes specifically for the stock axial tranny."thumbsup" oh yea and the vanquish axial tranny case

:roll::shock::shock: Did you just let the cat out of the bag?

MDcrawler72
08-16-2009, 06:39 AM
Yes sir, soon as we catch up on regular mounts. lower cog !

Any word on the Mini servo mount?

Thanks

gunnar
08-16-2009, 11:07 AM
How about a micro?

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo38/gunnarax10/FUTdig4.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo38/gunnarax10/FUTdig2.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo38/gunnarax10/FUTdig5.jpg

Nova's Ark
08-16-2009, 12:52 PM
That looks great Gunnar"thumbsup".

Too bad VP never made it themselves and never drilled the outputs for maxx shafts. I sold the GC2 axial and built a berg instead.

gunnar
08-16-2009, 01:40 PM
I'm sure they will come out with the mini mount soon. With all the new cool new wheels and other things they have going on, I'll bet they are pretty busy.

tom@vp
08-16-2009, 02:21 PM
great job gunnar, im very interested on your opinion of this setup ! "thumbsup"

yea, we have been getting a fair share of requests for all kinds of deviations to everything

we have been making, and great ideas for new projects as well. we are picking battles one

at a time, new goodies being cooked up as we type.

gunnar
08-16-2009, 02:38 PM
The micro is working great. It is rated at 67 oz/in at 6v, same as a 225MG. The dig is awesome, it shifts effortlessly, full-throttle shifts no problem at all, and engages every time.

Siggy
08-17-2009, 02:58 AM
Who says that hundreds of miles apart will stop VP from extending a helping hand?

... got a small care envelope just now, WOO HOO! :) Thanks Sincerely!

Vanquished all fears, VP in Here! "thumbsup"

scatterbrains
08-19-2009, 01:00 PM
Mine just came in cant wait to get it bolted up!!"thumbsup":twisted:

whiskyshooter
08-19-2009, 01:49 PM
I just put in an order for 1 myself.. Cant wait to try it out. Whats the best servo to run with it?

gunnar
08-19-2009, 02:06 PM
I just put in an order for 1 myself.. Cant wait to try it out. Whats the best servo to run with it?

A good choice would be the Hitec 645, but really any standard size servo should work. Lowest torque I have used is arould 67 oz./in., but lower torques should work the dig fine too.

khwilliams
08-20-2009, 05:35 PM
anyone cease a rear output? I ceased the rear output where the rear cog is bolted to the back of the dig case. that little brass bushing/bearing ceased and is now oblong, was wondering if we can get these under warranty? possibly get replacements?

tom@vp
08-20-2009, 07:14 PM
anyone cease a rear output? I ceased the rear output where the rear cog is bolted to the back of the dig case. that little brass bushing/bearing ceased and is now oblong, was wondering if we can get these under warranty? possibly get replacements?

This is the very first instance of any wear we have been informed of, with out being able to inspect the break down, im wondering if any lube was on the output, not that it should need much at all but we may require a touch of a grease there to help prevent this. or is it possible the bushing was loose ? anyways i have contacted mr khwillams and new bushing and output is already in the mail, he will get it tomorow.

dragit
08-20-2009, 08:13 PM
now thats customer service....



This is the very first instance of any wear we have been informed of, with out being able to inspect the break down, im wondering if any lube was on the output, not that it should need much at all but we may require a touch of a grease there to help prevent this. or is it possible the bushing was loose ? anyways i have contacted mr khwillams and new bushing and output is already in the mail, he will get it tomorow.

scatterbrains
08-21-2009, 10:47 AM
I love this dig, flawless in everyway so far"thumbsup" im usin a Futaba s148 i had lyin around and it works great:shock:. Going to be sliding in a HS81mg for worlds, little wieght reduction8)

khwilliams
08-21-2009, 11:07 AM
Awesome customer service"thumbsup""thumbsup", spoke with tom and has a new rear output in the mail as I speak! no questions asked, Tom is Top Notch and so is their products!!

khwilliams
08-21-2009, 01:55 PM
This is the very first instance of any wear we have been informed of, with out being able to inspect the break down, im wondering if any lube was on the output, not that it should need much at all but we may require a touch of a grease there to help prevent this. or is it possible the bushing was loose ? anyways i have contacted mr khwillams and new bushing and output is already in the mail, he will get it tomorow.


Tom's the Man!!!!!!! spoke with him at 4:30pm yesterday, my part arrivied today @ 12:00 Noon"thumbsup"

Vanquish Products Stands by their word, "Inovative Products and Excellent Customer Service"

Creepy Inc.
08-21-2009, 06:01 PM
gunnar (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/member.php?u=26337) I tought you were running a MIP in the rear? Did you change

it cause the new mount?

Dose the micro have the power to shift when the dig is bound up?

gunnar
08-21-2009, 07:50 PM
I had the MIP's on the rig for only a few days. So far the 'Pede shafts are working fine. I stressed them pretty hard, and no breaks as of yet. I could make the mount fit any shaft, I wanted it low, so there is about 1/16" clearance for the driveshaft. The micro servo works fine, yes even when bound up.

Stormin2u
08-21-2009, 08:48 PM
Looking at the servo arms the dig must require a lot of travel?

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo38/gunnarax10/FUTdig5.jpg

Creepy Inc.
08-21-2009, 08:58 PM
I had the MIP's on the rig for only a few days. So far the 'Pede shafts are working fine. I stressed them pretty hard, and no breaks as of yet. I could make the mount fit any shaft, I wanted it low, so there is about 1/16" clearance for the driveshaft. The micro servo works fine, yes even when bound up.
Good deal man thanx. "thumbsup"

gunnar
08-21-2009, 09:22 PM
Looking at the servo arms the dig must require a lot of travel?


I think the full movement of the dig arm is right around 13/16" or so. That probably is it's worst trait, it does take a small amount of time to engage, but the function of it outweighs the traval time, IMO. I wouldn't mind seeing a shorter arm option though, maybe 1/4" or so.

Pipi
08-22-2009, 09:29 PM
I made myself a servo bracket for a Hitec 225mg .Did this to stay away of the driveshaft, less weight and the servo has more than plenty of torque.

Creepy Inc.
08-23-2009, 09:08 AM
I made myself a servo bracket for a Hitec 225mg .Did this to stay away of the driveshaft, less weight and the servo has more than plenty of torque.
Pic?

SCRC
08-24-2009, 10:41 AM
So would the aluminum tranny housing bolt stright 2 this dig or is modification needed? thanks-jp

gunnar
08-24-2009, 10:48 AM
There would need to be some modifications made. The dig is made to fit the stock housing. Unless your aluminum tranny housing matches the shape of the stock housing, it might not be best to try to adapt it. The easiest way would be to cut the top part of the dig off, using only the two lower bolts to attach. Also the left rear screw boss area might need to be relieved on the dig housing(screw holding the tranny to the chassis). Some filing might also have to be done on the tranny housing to mate up the two parts.

SCRC
08-24-2009, 10:19 PM
Sounds like IM just better off going with a plastic tranny housing again. thankyou for the info. Just ordered one.

Creepy Inc.
08-25-2009, 07:30 PM
There would need to be some modifications made. The dig is made to fit the stock housing. Unless your aluminum tranny housing matches the shape of the stock housing, it might not be best to try to adapt it. The easiest way would be to cut the top part of the dig off, using only the two lower bolts to attach. Also the left rear screw boss area might need to be relieved on the dig housing(screw holding the tranny to the chassis). Some filing might also have to be done on the tranny housing to mate up the two parts.
That dose sound like a lot of work. :shock:

Siggy
08-28-2009, 07:19 AM
Got a wonderful surprise today, a care package from the tremendous folks at VP -- the V2 servo mount.

Man this ain't just customer service, you just just nailed on customer delight and loyalty. Thanks Sincerely!"thumbsup".

tom@vp
08-28-2009, 03:11 PM
make sure to lube your output shaft or it may get chafed. :shock:

ax ceawler
08-28-2009, 06:25 PM
i just orderd a hurtz shifter dig for my swx rig:mrgreen:"thumbsup":mrgreen:!
i hope it will come in the next two weeks!
cant wait to bolt it in

greetz

Creepy Inc.
08-31-2009, 08:08 PM
I got my 2nd mount put on and, It's all good. Thanx guys your a top noch company thats for sure.

Allen Repass "thumbsup"

SCRC
09-03-2009, 12:31 AM
just got mine in the mail so stoked gonna try to assemble it 2marrow at work. we should have a build thread with pictures of the step by step assembly. oh yea looks top notch thanks VP!

khwilliams
09-03-2009, 09:52 AM
just got mine in the mail so stoked gonna try to assemble it 2marrow at work. we should have a build thread with pictures of the step by step assembly. oh yea looks top notch thanks VP!

You should not need a build thread, The Dig is very simplistic! instructions are included with every Hurst dig,

You can also search Hurst dig and Gunners delrin Build for detailed photos!"thumbsup"

gunnar
09-03-2009, 10:45 AM
Sorry Kris, the SSS has the Vanquish dig. Delrin has the Eritex. No build post needed as you said. Super easy to assemble! Only took a minute.

dhyde79
09-04-2009, 12:09 AM
ok, so, what's the average ship time on this? if I order it before noon today (friday) can it be here in time for me to get it installed and tweaked before roadtripping to go play on a sick course friday or am I too short on time?

SCRC
09-04-2009, 12:09 PM
Yeah I figured it out, got it 2 work great with the help of my buddie tommer.

Locked Up
09-04-2009, 06:15 PM
Can I get a measurement from the face of the dig that touches the tranny to the back where the output comes out. Not including the output.


Gunnar, the micro servo is working it with no issues? How about when it is bound up?


Does the .180 lbs weight include the servo mount and the hardware?

dhyde79
09-04-2009, 06:38 PM
got mine ordered today.....they say I should have it tuesday/wednesday, hopefully that'll give me the time to get the custom links built so that I don't have to go to a shorter rear shaft....but, if all else fails I'll just bust out a stock shaft and cut it to fit....and make a second incase I destroy that one too....

not sure what servo I'm going after yet.....digging through tower hobbies to see what kind of deal I can find, since I know I can get an order from them here pronto...since going to a LHS in town isn't an option due to my work schedule between now and when I'm leaving to go crawl next friday.....

dhyde79
09-11-2009, 08:24 AM
it's in, it's installed, and it's tweaked to (near) perfection, thing runs like a champ! love it, now to go test it out.....

KROGOTH
09-20-2009, 01:44 AM
Well, I ordered a VP Dig myself a couple days ago, along with the Pro-Comp Revolvers.

Cant wait to get these products. I know they will be top notch and go a long way towards improving my rig. Just gotta work on the driver though...he needs some real work.

Anyways, a few questions. Currently I'm working with a 2.4 3PM. The 3rd channel switch is only a 2 positions switch, so I'm thinking that until I get a different radio, I'm going to have to either give up free wheeling or the locked rear axle. I'm going to guess I'm will stick with giving up free wheeling as the turning radius may be more useful.

And can anyone recommend a place to buy a micro or mini servo? I can fab up my own mount no problem. just not sure where to buy anything other than standard servos...

khwilliams
09-20-2009, 11:29 AM
Tower Hobbies.com I would go with the Futaba 3102 Micro steel gear servo, It put out like 72 oz. of torque, Plenty for the Hurst dig, Just my .02, you may want to check out Gunner's Threads on The Mounts, Great Mounts and very cheap price!!

Well, I ordered a VP Dig myself a couple days ago, along with the Pro-Comp Revolvers.

Cant wait to get these products. I know they will be top notch and go a long way towards improving my rig. Just gotta work on the driver though...he needs some real work.

Anyways, a few questions. Currently I'm working with a 2.4 3PM. The 3rd channel switch is only a 2 positions switch, so I'm thinking that until I get a different radio, I'm going to have to either give up free wheeling or the locked rear axle. I'm going to guess I'm will stick with giving up free wheeling as the turning radius may be more useful.

And can anyone recommend a place to buy a micro or mini servo? I can fab up my own mount no problem. just not sure where to buy anything other than standard servos...

gunnar
09-20-2009, 11:34 AM
Yea, that 3102 works pretty good, I was having no problems at all yesterday running it around, worked every time"thumbsup"

KROGOTH
09-21-2009, 06:19 AM
For now, I think when I get my DMG chassis in, I will see if i can fit in a standard size servo. Once i get back to the states I will work on fitting in a micro servo. I cant be bothered to wait for even more parts out here. The 2 week+ wait is a killer for real.

rednck21
09-21-2009, 05:37 PM
does anyone have the overall length measurement for the housing?

scatterbrains
09-21-2009, 06:33 PM
does anyone have the overall length measurement for the housing?

27.25mm"thumbsup"

SWelte
09-24-2009, 08:22 AM
Thanks Steve & VP. Fast shipping, clean and easy install. Operation is smooth."thumbsup""thumbsup"

Mini
09-24-2009, 08:26 AM
x2 Thanks Steve & VP. Fast shipping, clean and easy install. Operation is smooth. And love the packageing.

SWelte
09-24-2009, 03:42 PM
Went out for some testing today and all I can say is; WOW!!!! I tried everything I could think of to get it not to work, no luck. I bound it so hard and each time it operated super smooth. With my old set up I would have to take a reverse to releave pressure so it would lock or unlock. The only thing that caused a problem was when I released the dig in a bound situation (I mean really bound up) the rig shot forward with some force. I feel this dig is the set up to have for the shafties to competitive against moa rigs.
Thanks again Vanquish for putting out great quality products.

jeepster73
09-25-2009, 04:43 PM
this is a 3 position dig right? 1) rear wheels locked ,2)freewheel 3)????. and can i use my DX3.0 radio with this unit,and for all 3 postitions?

thanks in advance

SWelte
09-25-2009, 06:17 PM
Yes it is a 3 position. And you can use a DX3R with no problem. I use my "E" button to operate my dig set for 3 position. All the way forward=4 wheel, one click back=free wheel, another click back=rear lock. Then one click forward=free wheel, another click forward=4 wheel. It takes some getting use to. If you want to go directly to dig you need to be fast with the button. You won't be disappointed with this dig."thumbsup"

Locked Up
09-27-2009, 11:58 PM
Got mine installed this weekend with a front mounted micro servo.
http://www.noeither.com/rc/pictures/2009/9-27-09/DSCN7607.JPG

Seems to be working fine so far.

I didn't notice anything in the instructions about polishing any parts like I had to for the DNA dig .... Was I supposed to polish anything?

cascade crawler
09-28-2009, 03:25 PM
nope! just makes sure you got some lube in there and your golden like the servo mounting "thumbsup"

LIKES2CRAWL
09-30-2009, 06:38 PM
So do they send out a tracking number for there orders shipped? I placed an order on the 26th and haven't heard anything. I even sent Thomas a PM and still nothing.

SWelte
09-30-2009, 06:46 PM
When they sent mine out I recieved a tracking number via e mail.

tom@vp
09-30-2009, 08:09 PM
if you ordered through the store, you should have received an automated reply from the store. you will get a tracking number as soon as it ships. ok ... if you did not get any reply then email vanquishproducts@yahoo.com (vanquishproducts@yahoo.com). with your order number and name and one of the girls will help you out right away.

LIKES2CRAWL
09-30-2009, 08:41 PM
if you ordered through the store, you should have received an automated reply from the store. you will get a tracking number as soon as it ships. ok ... if you did not get any reply then email vanquishproducts@yahoo.com (vanquishproducts@yahoo.com). with your order number and name and one of the girls will help you out right away.

I never got a e-mail. I sent an e-mail with my name and order # little bit ago. I payed thru pay-pal if that makes any diffrence.


Edit: Got a e-mail from Tom yesterday and he explained why my order hasn't shipped. Thanx guys for getting back to me and keeping me informed.

ottoride
10-08-2009, 06:50 AM
yes specifically for the stock axial tranny."thumbsup" oh yea and the vanquish axial tranny case

i would buy one!

jtice
10-09-2009, 10:05 AM
Did anyone confirm yet if these will work with the Maxx shafts?

~John

SWelte
10-09-2009, 10:20 AM
I'm running mine with the Traxxas 4648x steel yokes with no problems. So far I have beat the hell out of my Hurtz and it continues to work flawlessly. Buy it.

Big_Ern
10-14-2009, 05:29 PM
If I order 2 of these, is there any reason that I could not install one front & rear for dual digs?

Looking at my stock AX trans the front & rear outputs look very similar so I don't see why it wouldn't work on both front and rear ...??

(I know this will require an extra channel but have a 7ch pistol grip remote to handle this along with 4ws and whatever other fun goodies I come up with :D)

I have a HH 7T Cobalt puller & MIP shafts and will probably be running dual mini or micro servos for the digs.


Also, have the mini or micro mounts been released yet? I don't see the option on vanquish's website?


Thanks!"thumbsup"

yoda316
10-14-2009, 07:45 PM
the spur gear would be in the way to mount one in the front....

Big_Ern
10-14-2009, 07:50 PM
I was looking at my AX trans and realized the spur gear wasn't on... I put it on and you're right, it wouldn't clear the dig housing... and also the housing would have no mounting bolts as they're integral to the spur & motor mount plate... I was just about to edit my question and post this up...

I would really like to have rear digs as well. I'm considering the dual RC4WD dig, but this VP dig looks amazing. Very well thought out and built solidly. I think I may end up running one of these along with a driveshaft dig... Unless someone has a better idea? PM me ideas if this is getting too far off topic

Unless the housing could be modified to clear a spur gear and mount up ok? maybe the vanquish crew would know if this is possible?

tom@vp
10-14-2009, 09:39 PM
I was looking at my AX trans and realized the spur gear wasn't on... I put it on and you're right, it wouldn't clear the dig housing... and also the housing would have no mounting bolts as they're integral to the spur & motor mount plate... I was just about to edit my question and post this up...

I would really like to have rear digs as well. I'm considering the dual RC4WD dig, but this VP dig looks amazing. Very well thought out and built solidly. I think I may end up running one of these along with a driveshaft dig... Unless someone has a better idea? PM me ideas if this is getting too far off topic

Unless the housing could be modified to clear a spur gear and mount up ok? maybe the vanquish crew would know if this is possible?

we actually have a good solid plan for our 4 wheel dig but it is not even in planning at this time which pretty much means if we started today it would be months before you see one. but the good news is there is some dam cool stuff comming down the pipe.

Big_Ern
10-14-2009, 11:44 PM
we actually have a good solid plan for our 4 wheel dig but it is not even in planning at this time which pretty much means if we started today it would be months before you see one. but the good news is there is some dam cool stuff comming down the pipe.

Great news! Thanks for the insight"thumbsup"

I think I'll go ahead with a VP dig and maybe hack up a shaft dig too so I can have dual digs until you guys release your dual dig.

Anywhere I can sign up to be on a mailing list or something when this new stuff comes down the pipe?

Thanks Tom.

C*H*U*D
10-17-2009, 05:49 PM
I absolutely love mine "thumbsup"

BlueDodgeRam
10-20-2009, 01:15 AM
got my VP dig installed the other day and so far is working great in my fairly stock ax10. little bit of noise that i cant track down, but it seems to have lessened after crawling today.

poorboyrc77
10-21-2009, 06:13 AM
Love my VP dig. Best fitting RC product I've ever purchased. This thing works flawlessly."thumbsup"

Twisted Nuts
10-23-2009, 05:07 PM
received my VP Dig 3 days ago and i have used the hell out of it and havn't had a problem yet!!"thumbsup" although it does take a little grinding on an aluminum tranny housing to get it to fit8) other than that I LOVE THE VP DIG

BlueDodgeRam
11-02-2009, 10:46 AM
Tom, i sent this to you in an email the other day but havent gotten a response:

I am needing the little dowel that is located on the bottom of you ax10 dig housing that the shifter arm pivots on. Somehow it fell out while crawling one day and I never could find it. Tried running a bolt through the housing to hold the arm, but that didnt work very well. Let me know what I need to do to get one of those pins. I ordered through RPP Hobby if it matters.

Please let me know how I can get one of those dowels/pins from ya! Thanks!

Vp Monkey
11-02-2009, 01:21 PM
Pm me your address.

Jim

Tom, i sent this to you in an email the other day but havent gotten a response:

I am needing the little dowel that is located on the bottom of you ax10 dig housing that the shifter arm pivots on. Somehow it fell out while crawling one day and I never could find it. Tried running a bolt through the housing to hold the arm, but that didnt work very well. Let me know what I need to do to get one of those pins. I ordered through RPP Hobby if it matters.

Please let me know how I can get one of those dowels/pins from ya! Thanks!

BlueDodgeRam
11-02-2009, 04:35 PM
PM sent Jim, thanks for the help and the awesome product!

Drail
11-13-2009, 09:49 AM
The VP dig. Best fitting RC product I've ever purchased. ive ran my 2.2 for 2 years with no dig and dun veary well...but thanx to VP its on in 2010"thumbsup" thankyou GSRCC Drail

Deezul
11-13-2009, 07:39 PM
just got one from rpp......its on the way. i had no clue it will not work with a cobalt motor so i am now freaking out. I REALLY dont / cannot spend 80 on another servo. is the micro mount out or anyone have advice?

Ecuador Crawler
11-14-2009, 09:54 AM
Hey question, i have a SWX with goat motor will that fit, i hade a problem with dna the servo mount did not fit , will this servo mount give me the space to mount the servo with that motor?

Deezul
11-16-2009, 08:46 PM
any ETA on a micro mount?

RIG_RIDER
11-26-2009, 11:01 AM
any ETA on a micro mount?
I'd like to know as well.

Big_Ern
11-26-2009, 01:53 PM
x3

I'd like to know on a micro or mini mount to work with my Cobalt puller. Or maybe i'm confused and there already is something that will work??



Also, any further info on the dual dig?

blue devil toyota
11-27-2009, 07:54 PM
Is it possible just to purchase a new shiter arm. My dig started giving me issues so I took it apart and found that the boss on the inside of the arm was mushroomed and would not lock the drive in place. I can take a photo if you need it. Otherwise this dig unit is great.

Thanks,
Bernie

Vp Monkey
11-30-2009, 03:41 PM
Is it possible just to purchase a new shiter arm. My dig started giving me issues so I took it apart and found that the boss on the inside of the arm was mushroomed and would not lock the drive in place. I can take a photo if you need it. Otherwise this dig unit is great.

Thanks,
Bernie

Send me a pm with your address.

Are your endpoints set properly? you do not want the servo to be pushing to a hard stop. It should just be holdig the shifting portion right before it hit hard resistance.

Vp Monkey
11-30-2009, 03:45 PM
any ETA on a micro mount?

I would like to know what servos people are using, so I can get a mount done. For mini mounts we have a losi mrc here with a small servo, I assume this is the size people are using. But I see some with 4 screw mounts and some with 2 screws. So I could use what servos people are using to go find technical data on them see if I can make a mount to accomodate most of these servos.

Jim

CreepyCrawl
11-30-2009, 08:14 PM
I would like to know what servos people are using, so I can get a mount done. For mini mounts we have a losi mrc here with a small servo, I assume this is the size people are using. But I see some with 4 screw mounts and some with 2 screws. So I could use what servos people are using to go find technical data on them see if I can make a mount to accomodate most of these servos.

Jim

I'd like to utilize the Hi Tec 5245MG mini that I run in my current dig set up "thumbsup"

I'd personaly prefer a bracket with 4 screw mounts...nice and solid.

http://www.hitecrcd.com/servos/show?name=HS-5245MG

venomous98
12-01-2009, 12:29 AM
Is it possible to run this unit in reverse (opposite side of the trans) so that way i could have the front wheels free wheel and the rear have power or 2wd? I always wanted a truck i could shift from 2wd to 4wd. If it does work in reverse i guess you could do "burn outs" also. "thumbsup"

gunnar
12-01-2009, 12:36 AM
Is it possible to run this unit in reverse (opposite side of the trans) so that way i could have the front wheels free wheel and the rear have power or 2wd? I always wanted a truck i could shift from 2wd to 4wd. If it does work in reverse i guess you could do "burn outs" also. "thumbsup"

Sure, just switch your axles and motor wires around.

Vp Monkey
12-01-2009, 10:43 PM
I'd like to utilize the Hi Tec 5245MG mini that I run in my current dig set up "thumbsup"

I'd personaly prefer a bracket with 4 screw mounts...nice and solid.

http://www.hitecrcd.com/servos/show?name=HS-5245MG


First batch will be off tomorrow :)

Twisted Nuts
12-07-2009, 10:11 PM
hey yall i got my dig in october and have been really happy with it until tonight. i stripped the idler gear in my trans today and had to do a teardown, as i was in the process i saw that the output shaft in the DIG was very wobbly(bushing worn badly), and the shiftfork has the same problems as the guys in the previous post. im using the blue (star) synthetic grease that VP sells and have been since day one. how would i go about gettin replacement parts:???: and how much?

Vp Monkey
12-09-2009, 11:20 AM
hey yall i got my dig in october and have been really happy with it until tonight. i stripped the idler gear in my trans today and had to do a teardown, as i was in the process i saw that the output shaft in the DIG was very wobbly(bushing worn badly), and the shiftfork has the same problems as the guys in the previous post. im using the blue (star) synthetic grease that VP sells and have been since day one. how would i go about gettin replacement parts:???: and how much?


All individual parts are available to be purchased from the website now.

Jim

Deezul
12-11-2009, 06:27 PM
i run a hitec 225mg......i had to make a small adapter on the bracket to clear the puller motor........i would like the micro mount but i assume it will hit a puller can too?

CreepyCrawl
12-11-2009, 08:24 PM
i run a hitec 225mg......i had to make a small adapter on the bracket to clear the puller motor........i would like the micro mount but i assume it will hit a puller can too?

The new micro bracket mounts in the same location, but the dimensions on the 225MG and the 5245MG compared to say a 645MG may keep it from interfering with a Puller.

645MG: 1.59 x 0.77 x 1.48 / 40.60 x 19.80 x 37.30mm

225MG and 5245MG: 1.27 x 0.66 x 1.21 / 32.40 x 16.80 x 30.80mm

It'll be close I think, but you could probably shim the servo out just a tick if need be, without throwing off the angle of the link in relation to the shifter arm.

I've been studying a few builds trying to get an idea on this...I picked up a 10T Puller that I want to run with this dig.

gunnar
12-20-2009, 10:37 PM
Hats off to Vanquish, it even works where it shouldn't! Great dig.

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo38/gunnarax10/VPmockup2.jpg