JeepinDoug's WT and NT Berg lock-outs

[JeepinDoug]

Due to popular demand I decided to make these.
WT (wide track) and NT (narrow track) Berg lock-outs.
CNC machined from 6061 T6 solid bar.

Because of the varying tolerances between Berg and Newage I made these all to the same length. If it's loose in your rig you could shim it, if it's too tight you can sand it.

WT (wide tracks) are cut .515" long, made for stock Berg knuckles.
NT (narrow tracks) are cut .485" for Berg axles using Axial knuckles.

Axial upgraded knuckles are all over the place on tolerances and Toy4crawlin found some shims that would great, Kyosho 12mm x 15mm shim packs.

To assemble just remove the knuckle, remove the dogbone, install the lock-out and then reinstall the dogbone. Test fit the knuckle, look to see how the threads line up. Try the screws, I like it tight but if it's too tight wipe the lock-out on sandpaper and continue to test fit it until it goes. If the test fit shows too loose you'll need the shim kit.
Toy4crawlin's pic;
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss325/Speed1Assault/BR310078.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a374/JeepinDoug/DSC00151.jpg
The pic shows how they're built, 3/4" diameter to match the knuckle, 5/8" to match the tube and a gentle taper to blend them in. Plenty of beef through out the lock-out with a .505" inside diameter, no need to grind the dogbone pin.

For the time being I'm going to post my Paypal addy for sales;
JeepinDoug@gmail.com
I have plenty of both styles to go around.
If you send Paypal please mention which style you want, WT or NT.
The price is $16, for a pair of your choice, shipped.
USPS, sorry no tracking but I never have problems and they always ship fast.
I ship on Tuesdays and Fridays.

I could ship international, just add $1.00 to the total and make sure your address is complete and correct.

[PEE WEE]

Payment Sent! Thanks Doug"thumbsup"

[JeepinDoug]

I'll be shipping the latest orders in about two hours, get these out quick style.
Yotachump has another source for shims;
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLZZ1&P=7

[ROCKCAD]

payment sent.....will these ship in your latest today ?..thanks doug 8)

[Failedabortion]

payment sent"thumbsup"

[JeepinDoug]

payment sent.....will these ship in your latest today ?..thanks doug 8)
Dan, I will deliver your's personally.............

Yes, I'm getting a shipment ready now, everyone whose paid is going to USPS today, automated parcel center.

[ROCKCAD]

thanks doug, can you arrive between 1 pm and 1:20 pm ???



Dan, I will deliver your's personally.............

Yes, I'm getting a shipment ready now, everyone whose paid is going to USPS today, automated parcel center.

[JeepinDoug]

thanks doug, can you arrive between 1 pm and 1:20 pm ???
Couldn't make it there in time but I'll ship them the same way I shipped your first clocker, :mrgreen:

[spinner]

Payment sent for three sets of wide track lock outs.

Thanks.

[CD13]

Paypal sent,1 set WT,Thanks,you the man "thumbsup"

[JeepinDoug]

Thanks guys, any orders made after my last post (#8.) will be shipped tomorrow. I will update here when shipped.

[SPAD]

money sent for 2 sets of the WT's

[athenscyclist]

Payment sent. 3-aug-2009 12:13p.m. central time


Checked mailbox 3-aug-2009 12:15p.m. central time. No package:cry:

Thanks for making parts that work.


david

[Failedabortion]

:shock: Ordered on sat and just got them in the mail.

Can get rid of my ghetto lockouts now"thumbsup"

[PEE WEE]

Ordered friday nite and got them in mail today. What service, Thanks Doug!"thumbsup"

[JeepinDoug]

Orders taken in after post 8 have been shipped, including canada.
:mrgreen:

[JeepinDoug]

Wow, I gotta say, you guys are keeping me busy with this stuff.
I'll have another set of orders going out tomorrow. "thumbsup"

[krawlfreak]

money sent

[JeepinDoug]

I've been super busy the past two days. I have shipping and PMs to catch up on tonight after work.

[JeepinDoug]

All shipments for all products went out yesterday before 5pm pac time, they went directly into sorting and are in transit now.

[Failedabortion]

NT lockouts with strc axial knuckles and berg offset mayhems. Inner bead ring edge sits in the middle of the knuckle screw.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j10/thedrownedone/IMG_0097.jpg

[JeepinDoug]

Nice!
I set up my axle with plastic axial knuckles and NT lock-outs, turned out to be a perfect fit.

[landon4]

Payment sent for nt lockouts.

[JeepinDoug]

I'll get yours out a little later today.

[landon4]

Thanks man thats awesome I don't even have the axles yet but I really like the design of these and I'm just getting pieces together for a build.

[JeremyH]

I'm just getting pieces together for a build.
Uh oh....:shock:

[landon4]

Uh oh....:shock:
Well it might take a little while but I figured I might start getting some of the small stuff out of the way.

[JeepinDoug]

Orders received will be shipping Tuesday.
All PMs returned.

[miniman]

Payment sent for a WT set mate, added the extra $1 as im UK based "thumbsup"

[JeepinDoug]

Got it, I cant get them in the mail until Tuesday cuz of the paperwork on inter' shipping.
Thanks

[Flyin Hawaiian]

What would is cost for ultimate clocker and WT rear lockouts?

[JeepinDoug]

What would is cost for ultimate clocker and WT rear lockouts?
PM'd you back. 8)

[JeepinDoug]

Here's a simple itinerary of my shipping.

When you guys PM me for parts I will return a PM to you with the cost, my Paypal addy and my shipping days, not to mention answers to your questys, if any.

Most people will send me a PM to tell me payment has been sent.
I don't mind it but also it's not necessary. Paypal sends me an email anyway.

Normally I don't send another PM saying "Thanks, I got your payment" :D only because I'd be sitting here at the computer all day.
I ship you parts the next ship day if not sooner.

My ship days are always Tuesdays and Fridays, typically around 4:30 pm pac time. I'm packaging around 3:30pm, an hour earlier.
If you send me payment at 4:30pm there's a good chance it won't make it in the mail that day but go out the next ship day.
Many times I'll ship out of those days just to get it out earlier.

I'm just writing this so people understand if I don't get right back to them after their payment has been sent. Your parts will be in the mail the following ship day.
If it's been 10 days and you have not received your parts, PM me.
Since Dec of 2008 I've shipped over 300 parcels, only one has been lost and a two have got caught up in USPS limbo.

[hellbentrodder]

Payment sent for some NT lockouts. Thanks.

[JeepinDoug]

Shipping out in 10 minutes from now Peter.
NTs seem to be perfect with Axial plastic knuckles on no name Berg axles.
Thanks, Doug

[hellbentrodder]

Got them today and in. AWESOME! thanks Doug.

[toomanyhobbies]

Do these fit on the Berg V2 axels? I would assume so but thought I would ask.

[BigB_117]

Ordered Friday. Got them Saturday. Thanks Doug!"thumbsup"

I'll be running them at Folsom Sunday. See you there. 8)

[JeepinDoug]

Do these fit on the Berg V2 axels? I would assume so but thought I would ask.
The V2 rear axles not a steering axle that needs a lock-out so they are not necessary. I do however make a clocking tool for them.

Ordered Friday. Got them Saturday. Thanks Doug!"thumbsup"

I'll be running them at Folsom Sunday. See you there. 8)

Good to hear Brandon, see you and Peter Sunday."thumbsup"

[JeepinDoug]

All my Friday orders got out a day early, today. "thumbsup"

[792.5cj5]

Ok. New to bergs. NT vs WT, Which do ya'll prefer? Advantages or dissadvantages to one or the other? What is the WMS to WMS for both? Do the plastic axial knuckles hold up to abuse and big drops?

Thanks for the info.

I'll be ordering as soon as I figure out the size I need.

[JeepinDoug]

Ok. New to bergs. NT vs WT, Which do ya'll prefer? Advantages or dissadvantages to one or the other? What is the WMS to WMS for both? Do the plastic axial knuckles hold up to abuse and big drops?

Thanks for the info.

I'll be ordering as soon as I figure out the size I need.

WMS-WMS would be vague because there are different drive hex thicknesses.
So, pull the wheels off, pull the hexes off and measure from the knuckle face to knuckle face (I'll call it "KF")

Stock Berg knuckles with WT lock-outs measure 8-1/16 across the KF width.

Plastic Axial knuckles with NT lock-outs measure 7-7/8" across the KF width.

Can the plastic knuckle withstand the abuse from big drops?
I don't know, I haven't seen one break yet. Typically the cup shaft breaks first.

Advantages?
A narrower track width in the rear for better wheel tracking, if you run wider in the front.
Cheaper knuckles.
Lighter knuckles.
Easy replacements.
Much easier to replace knuckle bearings if needed.
No need for shims, as far as I know so far.

Disadvantages?
I can't think of any but that's just my opinion.

[792.5cj5]

Thanks for the info. I got my parts the other day. Very fast shipping and great parts. Hell they got here before my axles. So I will have to wait on the install.

Thanks

[robbio4422]

WT's were a PERFECT fit!!!! no slop what so ever! great product right here"thumbsup"

[JeepinDoug]

WT's were a PERFECT fit!!!! no slop what so ever! great product right here"thumbsup"

Good to know. I would assume you might have the no-name axles. They seem to be the best fit for stock Berg knuckles.

[robbio4422]

Good to know. I would assume you might have the no-name axles. They seem to be the best fit for stock Berg knuckles.

by no name. if u mean the ckrc ones with no logo then u are correct.

but i do have a bit of binding in them(the axles) so i hope the cheap price hold up. as soon as some gear jelly gets here i get to tear them apart

ty again. ill be getting a clocking tool soon"thumbsup"

[JeepinDoug]

Yes, no logo on the axles is no-name Bergs/Newage.

One issue I've seen with only two axles is;
The dogbone pin scrapes the inside of the lock-out.
This is a Berg or Newage manufacturing flaw. The pin is not set centered in the dogbone from the factory.
Two fixes;
The correct ones is to just tap the pin (hard) to get it better centered.

The other is to grind a little off the end of the pin. No real issues with this because the rear shafts only need the extra pin for steering.

Your issue may just be tight gear mesh or dirty with factory components. They tend to break in real quick.

[JeepinDoug]

HOLIDAY SPECIAL

From now untill Jan 3rd, 2010
Ultimate Clocker and your choice of Lock-outs (WT or NT) for
$32 shipped

PM me for details

[JeepinDoug]

The year's end shipping went out last night.
I'll still be taking orders through the holidays and domestic shipping will still be possible.
Thanks to all who have ordered through me in my first year as a vendor here.
My vendor status has been renewed and I look forward to another year with some new components to be available.

Happy Holidays!!! :mrgreen:

[MR.VERTICAL]

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