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roktoy
01-09-2005, 08:39 PM
Great day out on the rocks. Here are some pics from the day.

Here's some of the guys and the terrain.......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/park.jpg

Shawn's TTR Clod. Short wheelbase and open diffs wouldn't let him get far. Hopefully he's back to try again.....

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/shawn1.jpg

Steve down in Death Valley........

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/deathvalley1.jpg

More death valley......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/deathvalley2.jpg

The start of the fourth stage was a killer face......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/dave3.jpg

Only Kevin could make it up.........

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/kevin1.jpg

The rest of use had to use the cheater rock......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/dave4.jpg

Following the climb was an optional descent.......hold on......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/dave2.jpg

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/kevin2.jpg

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/steve2.jpg

Middle of the last stage had some tight boulders.......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/dave7.jpg

Where's that rear tire going?.......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/steve1.jpg

This narrow shelf on the last stage gave everyone fits......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/steve3.jpg

Then it was another ledge climb.......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/dave5.jpg

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/dave6.jpg

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/steve4.jpg

The home stretch coming to the bottom of the rock pile......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/steve5.jpg

Some link damage......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/carnage1.jpg

Dave's broken outer axle......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/carnage2.jpg

Dave's broken shock......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/carnage3.jpg

Looks like a noodle now......

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/carnage4.jpg

CSR
01-09-2005, 08:55 PM
Great pics and Nice carnage!

What bent the hi-clearance links? A bad tumble?

Dave, I broke a stub axle like that. I wasn't doing anything cool, just over-tightened. :oops:

BENDER
01-09-2005, 08:57 PM
Sick pics, looks like you guys had fun. Sweet crawling spot, lots of big ledges. :twisted:

SlinkySam
01-09-2005, 09:06 PM
Very cool action shots. I can't get enough. So Dave, how do you like Old Blue again? Looks way more trick than when I drove it in Sac. How would you compare its ability to the old version?

Once again great pics. Where were the results by the way?

-Sam

SR5Dave
01-09-2005, 10:03 PM
Very cool action shots. I can't get enough. So Dave, how do you like Old Blue again? Looks way more trick than when I drove it in Sac. How would you compare its ability to the old version?

Once again great pics. Where were the results by the way?

-Sam

It blows the old one away 8) BFTs are awesome, it had a ton of traction. I've got some bugs to work out still (That day was the first time I had that truck in the rocks) But it does really well. I can't wait to run it some more!! Some fluid in those shocks, work out some better shock mounts, get the front steering to go a bit tighter and its set. This rig is a lot of fun.

CSR: The high clearance links broke at almost nothing, IMO... They got mangled in one light fall, and just got worse and worse and worse. They are so soft that he was bending them back by hand! My stub shaft actually broke from being UNDER tightened.. I got a good fall in and it snapped right off. Fortunately it was loose enough it just turned out :D

WRMorrison
01-09-2005, 10:04 PM
It was a lot of fun. Hell, I didn't even get my rig done in time and I had fun just watchin'! As for the ledges, a lot of 'em looked pretty hard (and some of them proved to be extremely hard), but big? I think those were just the small chips that have rolled to the bottom of the mountain over the years! :D But I suppose that it wouldn't be very practical trying to climb near vertical ledges bigger than a bus...lol.

Gimbal
01-09-2005, 10:20 PM
Awesome! Definetely sorry I missed it :( What's up with the t-shirts, it's cold as hell up here in Mesquite! 50

...so what's everyone's opinion of the Moab's on that rock?

BENDER
01-09-2005, 10:21 PM
Couple questions, whose in 1st pic. And where are all the shafties? :lol:

SR5Dave
01-09-2005, 10:21 PM
Awesome! Definetely sorry I missed it :( What's up with the t-shirts, it's cold as hell up here in Mesquite! 50

I was melting in my long sleeve!! It was like 70! I was happy to come back to flag where it was almost half that :lol:

SR5Dave
01-09-2005, 10:30 PM
Sam:
http://rccrawler.com/posts4225-105.html


kevinlongisland,mach1.......-47
roktoy,rokclod5..................31
slbks5,cx...........................92
sr5dave,name?..................118
Shawn, thunder tech..........DNF


I'm not sure what I blame for doing so poorly, probably bad driving and too long or a wheelbase (plus some breakage) I had tons of fun though :D

Russell
01-10-2005, 03:41 AM
First off , where are the pics of Roktoys rig on the course.
I imagine he drove while he was there ?
Congrats to Kevin, i may have to sponsor you mate ,you are doing Centipede engineering proud with all your great driving and comp results.And all with a truck thats a few years old.
Wait till he starts driving a Spyda 8)
Well done.

Who are each of the ugly mugs in the pic at the top.
I presume Dave is in the long sleeve shirt due to his comment about heating up.but who is who.Kevin is holding the paper..????

Those links look to be made of very soft alloy , we make ours out of 6061 alloy and are 6mm thick, we have never had one bend.

XFACTOR
01-10-2005, 03:51 AM
Those links look to be made of very soft alloy , we make ours out of 6061 alloy and are 6mm thick, we have never had one bend.

Even I havent bent one yet :lol:


sweet russ, kevin gonna do us spyda's proud soon?? ya sponsoring him it??

BLADE
01-10-2005, 05:45 AM
Those links are made out of 6061 Alloy looks like I am going to have to make some heavyer duty High clearance links. I havent bent any from the hours of crawling on my rig. I guess I must drive a bit carefull.

kevinlongisland
01-10-2005, 06:18 AM
Sorry, but i am horrible at remembering names and i don't remember the two guys names on the left. they did not drive, but were helpful setting up courses and very nice guys. for the rest of us:

black tshirt is Steve or slbk5
long sleeves is sr5dave
holding papers is me, kevinlongisland

no pics of jays (roktoy) truck because he took all the pics. unfortunately, i had my camera with me but didn't take one pic. too busy.

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk6/rcstuff/parc2jan2005/park.jpg

kevinlongisland
01-10-2005, 06:22 AM
Couple questions, whose in 1st pic. And where are all the shafties? :lol:

wrmorrison will soon be the proud owner of the only shaftie in the group. i think we are all looking foward to seeing it up and running.

roktoy
01-10-2005, 06:33 AM
Gimbal.....despite the shallow tread, the Moabs stuck quite well. The compound is soft and sticky on the rock here. The one problem is that without foams they compress a bit too much. In tight holes they can compress and drop under an undercut or in a notch. Then they reinflate and trap the tire. May do good to run some half foams.

Bender....what's a shaftie? :P

Russell.....I didn't get any pics of my rig. I was running my old Rokclod5 again but did a quickie wheelbase stretch to 16" and had lathe motors. Worked much better with the longer wheelbase, but I forgot to put any weight in the front tires. Steep climbs were my biggest challenge. I pointed out on the nasty ledge climb at the end of Stage 4. Flip, flip, flip.......

Kevin's rig is setup well and he is an awesome driver. He pretty much kicked our butts all around :lol: ....we'll keep trying though.

Yes, Dave in long sleeve. Kevin with paper. Steve with truck. Two other guys were spectators.

The links Steve had were strong in a vertical plane but made of thin (~1/8" material) so they were weak horizontally. With the links providing all the suspension location they bent quite easily the first time he rolled it hard on its side.

Jay

kevinlongisland
01-10-2005, 06:43 AM
Here are the results per stage:

Stage 1:
Kevinlongisland.....0
roktoy..................1
slbk5...................11
sr5dave...............12
shawn..................36

Stage 2:
Kevinlongisland.....12
roktoy...................1
slbk5.....................7
sr5dave.................1
shawn...................50

Stage 3:
Kevinlongisland........-17
roktoy.....................-15
slbk5.......................27
sr5dave...................55
shawn......................DNF

Stage 4:
Kevinlongisland......-42
roktoy....................44
slbk5......................47
sr5dave..................50
shawn....................DNF

TOTALS:

kevinlongisland,mach1, Xtreme...................-47
roktoy,custom tube chassis, rokclod5............31
slbks5,cx, "P" ............................................92
sr5dave,custom, Big Blue...........................118
Shawn, thunder tech..................................DNF

i thought the moabs worked well, but did suffer from the problems roktoy stated above. also, i didn't like the offset of the rims. with widers the truck was too narrow. is that called to much negative offset? does anyone make rims with more positive offset?

cman_1500w
01-10-2005, 07:45 AM
Nice pics guys! Looks like it was a fun day of crawling. I wonder how far you are from DFW? I'd love to come out there someday and show you guys what a real shaftie can do! :wink:

SR5Dave
01-10-2005, 08:44 AM
Nice pics guys! Looks like it was a fun day of crawling. I wonder how far you are from DFW? I'd love to come out there someday and show you guys what a real shaftie can do! :wink:

1050 miles ;) I drive 2.5 hours each way to get there. If you went 105 it would only take 10 hours :lol:

WRMorrison
01-10-2005, 11:49 AM
Russell, here's RokToy's rig. Not the best pic, but the only descent one I got. Sorry for the "almost larger than life" pic, I don't know how to resize them yet. :oops:

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/7498/jay1e1mu.jpg

Fishmaxx
01-10-2005, 01:23 PM
Russell, here's RokToy's rig. Not the best pic, but the only descent one I got. Sorry for the "almost larger than life" pic, I don't know how to resize them yet. :oops:


Do have MS Piant on your computer?
It comes with XP.

SR5Dave
01-10-2005, 01:56 PM
Almost forgot... the king of broken parts "SR5DAVE" :lol:


I think he can pretty much break any part he wants to.... :flipoff:

I was actually going really easy this time :oops: :lol:

WRMorrison
01-10-2005, 02:06 PM
Yes, I have MS paint. I know how to open the pic. in paint, but don't see anything to resize it. The only thing that looks like it could resize it would be zoom, and that's at 100%, and 100 is the smallest setting I see.

PinchFlat
01-10-2005, 02:46 PM
Yes, I have MS paint. I know how to open the pic. in paint, but don't see anything to resize it. The only thing that looks like it could resize it would be zoom, and that's at 100%, and 100 is the smallest setting I see.

In MS Paint... Under the Image menu select Attributes. There you can adjust the size around 640 by 480 pixels is a normal, but large size to post pics.

WRMorrison
01-10-2005, 04:26 PM
PinchFlat:

I did what you said, but it didn't really resize anything, just cropped it off at that pixel dimension.

?

PinchFlat
01-10-2005, 04:32 PM
PinchFlat:

I did what you said, but it didn't really resize anything, just cropped it off at that pixel dimension.

?

OH thats lousy... I'm not a paint user so i was only guessing.. Photoshop will do it... :lol:

Ok... you can use the Stretch/Skew option under the Image menu. It is percent based though... you ned to make the horizontal and vertical match if you want it to scale down perportional.

Grizzly4x4
01-10-2005, 04:38 PM
http://www.rccrawler.com/postt822.html

WRMorrison
01-10-2005, 05:00 PM
Thanks for the help PinchFlat & Grizzly, but I figured it out on paint shop pro 8. (Never even used that program before :oops: )

Lunatic
01-11-2005, 09:07 AM
Hey thats me, by the way ill have some clips up by the end of the week, or as soon as i get a chance to borrow the laptop.

SR5Dave
01-11-2005, 01:08 PM
Hey thats me, by the way ill have some clips up by the end of the week, or as soon as i get a chance to borrow the laptop.

AWesome :) If you need to host them somewhere fast (Since RCPics has been sucking lately) just email em over to me ;)

WRMorrison
01-11-2005, 04:35 PM
Dave, sorry I don't know how to edit vids and all that happy junk, cause I got a descent shot of your "aerial 360." :lol:

WRMorrison
01-12-2005, 03:50 AM
Steve, Most Definitely! I've already redesigned my prototype axles and I'm going to get to work on them today. Also just got 3/16" solid alum. rod for the tube frame. I'll start a thread with pics as soon as I'm at least half-way through. This rig will be made entirely out of 6061 T6 aluminum. Hopefully it will be a combo of just the right/enough weight and strength.

Everyone will just have to wait and see. :wink:

badger
01-21-2005, 02:40 PM
restored

bhorocks
01-22-2005, 02:25 PM
that would happen to be me. next time I hope to have my truck there! was going to watch them to see what is was like..

I should be there for the next event already in the process of my buildup!

i was in red.

kevinlongisland
01-22-2005, 03:43 PM
that would happen to be me. next time I hope to have my truck there! was going to watch them to see what is was like..

I should be there for the next event already in the process of my buildup!

i was in red.

bhorocks, looking foward to seeing you out there at our next outing. all current info is here:

http://www.geocities.com/boulderbattles/
and here:
http://www.thecrawlerstore.com/Events.html

bhorocks
01-23-2005, 01:06 PM
kevin,

the tq3 rear steer setup. how long does it take to install? at the next event I may just have you bring one if it installs quikly. if not I'll just have to order it

Lunatic
01-26-2005, 08:22 PM
i got some clips up, i only have clips of the second course and there was only four trucks. vids are over five min and roughly 5.5 to 6.5 MB

http://www.rcpics.net/view_single.php?medid=48041
http://www.rcpics.net/view_single.php?medid=48042
http://www.rcpics.net/view_single.php?medid=48043
http://www.rcpics.net/view_single.php?medid=48044

SR5Dave
01-26-2005, 11:44 PM
Lunatic - Great Vids :)



Boy .... do I need some practice :lol:

Me too!! I fixed the chit wrong with my rig... Its now running some FIRM spring rates, and its lowered to the ground (Uppers lower than horizontal) I might have to raise it a tad just cause I can't do big 90* obstacles right now (bottoms out bigtime)

I can't wait to run it. Too bad its so muddy here in flag! I'd tell all you guys to come up! :flipoff: