Custom Backbone lengths

[JohnRobHolmes]

Do you offer different backbone lengths? I want something that is 18", and not some knockoff stick! If it would bolt right in to my stick, that would be pretty awsome ;-) Whaddya say Kevin?

[J Rock]

X2. I think that would be a great option. How about it?

[Unholy]

Do you offer different backbone lengths? I want something that is 18", and not some knockoff stick! If it would bolt right in to my stick, that would be pretty awsome ;-) Whaddya say Kevin?

Where did you get that idea? :-P

[kevinlongisland]

It's in the works guys. We have a 12.5" wheelbase backbone "re-tested" already. Just waiting for the new jig to be finished. Then we can do some different lengths. Not sure of the price on custom length backbones and kits yet. I'll post any new info here.

[JohnRobHolmes]

Sweet. Hopefully before the comps start again next year!

[Unholy]

I just purchased a new Stick Chassis as well... paypaled from paintballalien1@charter.net (You get lots of my money! :-P )

If you want to test out a new 18" backbone on my kit I'd be thrilled! "thumbsup"

[run2jeepn]

I think clods are going to start winning more 2.2 Comps.:)

[kevinlongisland]

I just purchased a new Stick Chassis as well... paypaled from paintballalien1@charter.net (You get lots of my money! :-P )

If you want to test out a new 18" backbone on my kit I'd be thrilled! "thumbsup"

Thanks for your order. I'll keep this thread updated so you'll know when we can make that 18" wheelbase backbone for you.

[TwistedCreations]

We have a 12.5" wheelbase backbone "re-tested" already.


I wanna know ASAP on these "thumbsup"

[EeePee]

I wanna know ASAP on these "thumbsup"

Me too!

[rocpede]

It's in the works guys. We have a 12.5" wheelbase backbone "re-tested" already. Just waiting for the new jig to be finished. Then we can do some different lengths. Not sure of the price on custom length backbones and kits yet. I'll post any new info here.
and how much for the 12.5 WB stick kit be. cause i'm going to be rebiulding my clod for the 2.2 class.

rich

[kevinlongisland]

I'm not sure of the final price yet for the 2.2 version. It will either be the same price as the 16" wheelbase version or slightly less.

[TwistedCreations]

bumpity bump........ tell Rich I am waiting :lol: :lol:

[kevinlongisland]

bumpity bump........ tell Rich I am waiting :lol: :lol:

Patience young Jedi.

[TwistedCreations]

Yes Yoda :lol:

[slugzracing]

You know I am down for a 17 inch WB if custom lenghts become available"thumbsup" Mark one down as sold

[kevinlongisland]

You know I am down for a 17 inch WB if custom lenghts become available"thumbsup" Mark one down as sold

I'll post up when we can do custom lengths. When I do just let me know and we'll whip one up for you.

[kevinlongisland]

Happy New Year guys. I just wanted to post up an update. Morrison is making the new jig as a favor and has a newborn and a new house so his time is limited. I spoke with him this weekend and he's really not sure when he'll be done with it. Sorry about the delay guys. I'll continue to post any updates here.

[PROTOTYPE]

Just trying to get this uppity up so we know whats up ... 8)

[kevinlongisland]

Just trying to get this uppity up so we know whats up ... 8)

Again, sorry about the long delay on these. Our jig to produce backbones is made for the 16" wheelbase trucks only. I just ordered a bunch of tube that will be in sometime this week. Then it will go off to Morrison to get machined on a mill instead of waiting for the better jig to be made up.

[TwistedCreations]

That's it.. Time to talk to your better half and have her put the foot up your tail :lol: "thumbsup"

[PROTOTYPE]

TC you crack me up!! :lol:

NO problem Kevin , As long as you feel this will be a better way I'm sure everyone that buys one will be happy .

[TwistedCreations]

I'm sure everyone that buys one will be happy .

But in the meantime, Rich and Kevin are losing us valuable Points Series points :lol: :lol:

I love bustin Kevins balls "thumbsup" (shhh, keep it on the dl, but he likes it too) :lol:

[Moondust1950]

any update on the custom back bone's?

[kevinlongisland]

I purchased plenty of aluminum tube and it's in Richs' possession. It's getting closer! He going to run some 2.2 sized on the manual mill until the jig is done.

[PROTOTYPE]

:shock: When would these be available and what will be offered with it? I'm so excited.8) "thumbsup"

[Moondust1950]

when these are made will these be a straight fit to the stock stick chassis package links? Or will we need longer links?

[kevinlongisland]

:shock: When would these be available and what will be offered with it? I'm so excited.8) "thumbsup"

I'm not sure of the exact date of availability yet. You can buy either the complete chassis kit just like you can now, or you will be able to purchase just the backbones.

when these are made will these be a straight fit to the stock stick chassis package links? Or will we need longer links?

Yes, these will be a direct replacement. Just swap out the backbone.

[kevinlongisland]

Update: I'll be picking up a bunch of 2.2 backbones today. They'll go off to get the finish work done to them today and should be available in two weeks or less.

[Unholy]

We want 18"ers! :mrgreen:

[PROTOTYPE]

O yea , This just Made me happy.

[kevinlongisland]

We had a slight hiccup that may delay these a half a week or so, but they should be here before the end of the month.

[LIKES2CRAWL]

We want 18"ers! :mrgreen:

That's funny right there!"thumbsup"

[kevinlongisland]

My apologize guys. The slight hiccup I mentioned turned out to be a large hiccup. The jig we were having made had one set of holes drilled at the wrong angle. We attempted to fix it, but could not. $200 in materials and 10+ hours of labor down the tube. We'll be starting on a new jig but I'm not sure when we'll be done. I'm really sorry about this long delay.

[JohnRobHolmes]

Thanks for updating us!

[PROTOTYPE]

It's cool man, As long as you know that you have some anxious customers lurking around this forum waiting for the release. :D ;-)

[Moondust1950]

My apologize guys. The slight hiccup I mentioned turned out to be a large hiccup. The jig we were having made had one set of holes drilled at the wrong angle. We attempted to fix it, but could not. $200 in materials and 10+ hours of labor down the tube. We'll be starting on a new jig but I'm not sure when we'll be done. I'm really sorry about this long delay.

I think i may have got one of your Backbones with the wrong angle Holes. I take it this is not my fault. But would i have to pay for a replacment?

[JohnRobHolmes]

Mine was drilled slighly askew as well, but it doesnt seen to affect performance at all.

[Moondust1950]

I have notice mine allitle it would catch some times. But my other side wouldn't. This could happen in a comp/gtg and would lose points.:x


james

[TwistedCreations]

Pick better lines then :flipoff:

[kevinlongisland]

None of the backbones that where made on the new jig where ever sent out. Actually there is an entire bucket full of them here that will probably go to scrap. The are all drilled and tapped, with the shock mounting holes drilled at too shallow of an angle.

[kevinlongisland]

The 2.2 Stick is back!
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Ok guys, the new jig is finished. Two test backbones where made up and tested on my truck. All looks well. We'll be making a short run of the normal size backbone and the 2.2 backbones. They should be available in 2 weeks. If all goes well with them we'll make a full run of them. It looks as if allot of you are interested in an 18" wheelbase version. I'll have some of them made up as well. Any other sizes you guys are interested in?

[Unholy]

18" Wheelbase, please!!! "thumbsup"

[J Rock]

17" WB would be great.

[EeePee]

Mark me down for a 2.2 backbone pretty please.

[kevinlongisland]

I'll have some 17" and 18" backbones made up for you guys.

[J Rock]

Great! I'll be picking up a 17" and a 12.5" when they become available. I just purchased a used NN roller yesterday and will be picking up some parts for it in a week or so. Thanks for listening to everyones ideas.

Jason

[kevinlongisland]

The backbones are going to the anodizer today. It should take a week or so. I have plenty of 2.2 and some 17 and 18 versions. I have enough of the 17 and 18" version for those of you that posted up here and plenty of the 2.2 versions.

[Unholy]

The backbones are going to the anodizer today. It should take a week or so. I have plenty of 2.2 and some 17 and 18 versions. I have enough of the 17 and 18" version for those of you that posted up here and plenty of the 2.2 versions.


PM Sent about an 18"er! "thumbsup"

[mariochi]

Kevin.
Can you classify the bone length 12/17/18 and the ideal wheel?
fotr example:
12" + 2.2
16 + 40" (the original)
17 + 40"
18 + 40"

Kevin, Can you write shortly what are the advantages and disadvantages of the various length/wheel tested ?

Than , when you are ready, you can post a photo of the whole family complete!

Bye
Mario

[kevinlongisland]

Hello Mario. You have guessed the correct wheel size here:

12" + 2.2
16 + 40 series or maxx size
17 + 40"
18 + 40"

For the 16"-18" the biggest difference is vertical climbing performance versus handling. The longer backbone will climb much better the more vertical you get, but you loose allot of maneuverability. I'm not sure I have enough trucks around to assemble all sizes together for one photo, but you guys can post your pictures here once you get the 17" and 18" versions. Thanks.

[Unholy]

you guys can post your pictures here once you get the 17" and 18" versions. Thanks.


tell me when i can get my 18er and I'll get you pics! :-P

[TwistedCreations]

H
12" + 2.2


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[mariochi]

Obviously I wait the 18".....

[kevinlongisland]

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Alright, what are you trying to tell me? I bet it's nothing good! "thumbsup"

[kevinlongisland]

tell me when i can get my 18er and I'll get you pics! :-P


Man, your dying to get one of these, aren't you? I'll make sure to contact you last. ;-) (just kidding) I'll make sure to get a hold of you the day I get these back. They are at the plater now.

[TwistedCreations]

Alright, what are you trying to tell me? I bet it's nothing good! "thumbsup"

LMAO... 12.5" :lol: :lol:

[Unholy]

LMAO... 12.5" :lol: :lol:


Didn't you get the memo?
The stick/torsion haters won...

Stick/Torsion 2.2's can only have a 12" wheelbase and 12" width as a penalty...

;-)

[TwistedCreations]

LMAO, nope.. I must have missed that memo then "thumbsup"

[TimR]

I'll take a 18" back bone.

[mariochi]

More or less.....
How long it takes.... to see the 18" in stock?
I am going to make an order with other spares.... so I was thinking about waiting the 18"....
Bye
Mario

[kevinlongisland]

They are in!!!!!!

Silver Color only. Backbones for the following wheelbase:

12.5"
16"
17"
18"

We only ran a few of the 17" and 18" for testing purposes. But I should have enough for all of you that posted. Once you guys get these and tell me everything is ok I'll make a boat load of them and have them readily available direct from the store. Those of you that posted have first dibs on these. Please confirm what size you want here in this thread and send me a pm.

done - johnrobholmes
done - J Rock
done - Unholy
done - EeePee
done -TimR
done-slugzracing
-PROTOTYPE
done-Moondust1950
done-mariochi
done-OZ STICK
-Red Rockcrawler

The full kits are also available in these wheelbases by special request for now. Once we have more of the longer backbones in stock we'll put the full kits and individual backbones up for purchase direct from the store.

[EeePee]

Hey alright!!! 2.2 12.5'r is correct.

Now, how do I get it? :)

[Unholy]

Yep. I still want an 18" one.

Just let me know what to do! "thumbsup"

[kevinlongisland]

I'll respond via PM's to your requests guys. But still post up here confirming what you want and I'll check you off the list. Thanks.

[mariochi]

Yes ,mariochi wants a 18".
You can Ship to Italy only the 18" backbone???
Let me know.

Mario

P.s.Today I will post my new stick body coloured...

[J Rock]

Great! I'll be picking up a 17" and a 12.5" when they become available. I just purchased a used NN roller yesterday and will be picking up some parts for it in a week or so. Thanks for listening to everyones ideas.

Jason
I still want a 17" and a 12.5" How do I go about ordering them?

Thanks
Jason

[mariochi]

I still want a 17" and a 12.5" How do I go about ordering them?

Thanks
Jason

Hi Jason,
I would like to ask You the advantage of choosing 17" instead of the 18" version of backbone.
I tought the 18" can climb greater rocks or stairs or others.
Infact I asked Kevin for a 18". I tought it was better than 17".
But I own only a 16"stick, my first crawler....
I haven't experiences of other wheelbases.
Let me know What do you think. And all of you what do you think...

[J Rock]

It is personal preference based upon the type of terrain you crawl on. The longer the wheelbase is, the greater the vertical climbing ability will be. You also have to consider that the longer it is the greater the chance of getting high centered will be. You have to find a happy medium between the two. In my opinion that will be the 17", that's what I'm going with. But remember it's based upon the terrain also. Do you crawl a lot of steep vertical climbs? This is all just my 2 cents though. Good luck.

Jason

[TimR]

I want a 18" backbone for sure.

[TwistedCreations]

"thumbsup" "thumbsup"

Buildup thread coming soon

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[kevinlongisland]

It's lookin good! I love this photo:

[OZ STICK]

How do i go about getting a 17" backbone

[kevinlongisland]

How do i go about getting a 17" backbone

I've added you to the list above. I'm working from the top down. I only have so many 17" and 18" this time around. Once everything gets the "thumbsup" from the first batch, we'll make a bunch more and have them available direct from the website. But you may still be able to get in on this batch if I have enough. I'm just waiting for a response from the guys above you. Thanks.

[Red Rockcrawler]

I have a 16" stick how much to buy a new back bone to 17" or 18"

[Moondust1950]

18'' please kevin!

YOU ROCK.

Thankyou kevin for your service!

[kevinlongisland]

I have a 16" stick how much to buy a new back bone to 17" or 18"

I added you to the list and I'll send you a pm once I've moved down to you on the list. The backbones are $35 each for any size.

[kevinlongisland]

18'' please kevin!

YOU ROCK.

Thankyou kevin for your service!

I'll get that out to you asap! Thanks.

[J Rock]

I received mine yesterday. Fast shipping and great service once again. Thanks

[Red Rockcrawler]

I added you to the list and I'll send you a pm once I've moved down to you on the list. The backbones are $35 each for any size.

Waiting with paypal ready.

[OZ STICK]

Kev ill will still take a 17"

[kevinlongisland]

For those of you that got these already and installed them, let me know how everything worked out and lined up. I'd like to give the go ahead as soon as possible to put these into production at higher volumes.

I'm also running out of the 17" and 18" version. OZ stick may get the last of them. But we'll get more in production asap once I get the "thumbsup" from you guys. Thanks.

[slugzracing]

Kevin, the new backbone installed without a hitch (pretty nice since I think my kit was from the second run of the stick chassy!) and the geaometry all looks good. All I have left to do is extend my wiring and it will be ready for a beating"thumbsup"

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[EeePee]

My 2.2 version went together almost perfectly. The two central link mount holes needed to be opened up just a tad to fit the screws through.

Otherwise, "thumbsup"

[TwistedCreations]

Yes, I told Kevin that about the screw holes also.. They are just a **** hair too smal, but if a customer is careful, they can thread them through with no problems.. Keeps the slop out "thumbsup" ....

[sho]

woo hooo my backbone arrived, and it is in a good qualitea sho

[OZ STICK]

Kev mate i hope i wasn't to late with my order i sent you the money today.

[kevinlongisland]

Kev mate i hope i wasn't to late with my order i sent you the money today.

Nope, not too late. I'll have that out to you asap! Thanks.

[slugzracing]

I got to run my new 17 incher at the comp this past weekend and while my driving sucked I could not be more happy with the extra inch. Combined with the low CG on my clod it was climbing just about anything I aimed for. Kevin you have made the best chassis even better "thumbsup"

[kevinlongisland]

I got to run my new 17 incher at the comp this past weekend and while my driving sucked I could not be more happy with the extra inch. Combined with the low CG on my clod it was climbing just about anything I aimed for. Kevin you have made the best chassis even better "thumbsup"

Thanks man. I'm glad it has performed up to your expectations! "thumbsup"

[Moondust1950]

Hi kevin!

Could you give me a date when you sent out my 18'' backbone. Starting to get excited:lol:


Thanks for rocking the crawling World"thumbsup"

James

[kevinlongisland]

Hi kevin!

Could you give me a date when you sent out my 18'' backbone. Starting to get excited:lol:


Thanks for rocking the crawling World"thumbsup"

James

Email reply sent.

[Moondust1950]

"thumbsup" Got the 18'' backbone the qualty put into this backbone is awesome thanks again kevin for your service"thumbsup"




Best Regards

james

[kevinlongisland]

12.5", 16", 17" and 18" wheelbase sticks are now available on the store.

http://www.tcscrawlers.com/product.php?productid=16275&cat=103&page=1

[Moondust1950]

I would also like to thank johnrobholmes for starting this thread if it wasn't for him we may not have these."thumbsup"


Thanks again

james