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cartronicshn
12-04-2006, 03:53 PM
After seeing a couple of unimogs built, i to had to try and build one, also i wanted to try and build my own chassis, i should be getting another tlt kit sometime this week:) , so here are some pics of the donor, it's 14" long from the center of the front axle to the center of the last axle, it's 20" long overall and 7" wide, please lmk what you think:) , i need ideas of the kind of chassis i need to build, suspension recomendations and any useful info.

microgoat
12-04-2006, 04:05 PM
Cool project! You can whip up a stright-rail chassis with leaf springs and TLT axles (chop up another axle to make the pass-thru second axle) on 1.9's, or 4-link it and run small 2.2's. But setting up a 4-link on a short wheelbase is really hard if you want it to work. Another alternative might be all trailing links on the second and third axles, or a walking-beam setup, or even an all-independent setup using TA02 parts (might be hard to get 6wd, though).

Your options are endless. You've got a good body to start with, so get to building "thumbsup"

trickedoutTLT06
12-04-2006, 04:07 PM
Why not forget the 6 wheel idea, and put it on an XC chassis w/ some highlift tires? "thumbsup"

ToyotaKing88
12-04-2006, 04:13 PM
I am thinking springs up front and 3 link in the rear with a Y for the top link.

cartronicshn
12-04-2006, 04:46 PM
Keep em coming guys"thumbsup" , Dez the donor i got it at local department store, go figure:lol:

rcracer
12-04-2006, 04:57 PM
Cool project! You can whip up a stright-rail chassis with leaf springs and TLT axles (chop up another axle to make the pass-thru second axle) on 1.9's, or 4-link it and run small 2.2's. But setting up a 4-link on a short wheelbase is really hard if you want it to work. Another alternative might be all trailing links on the second and third axles, or a walking-beam setup, or even an all-independent setup using TA02 parts (might be hard to get 6wd, though).

Your options are endless. You've got a good body to start with, so get to building "thumbsup"


I second that

axelnut1
12-04-2006, 05:01 PM
I don't think you should build it. I think you should send it to me. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Looks like it will be a cool project. Keep us informed with lots of pictures.

slugzracing
12-04-2006, 05:03 PM
humina humina humina.....:shock: *drool* (need I say more:lol: )

BigRedB2
12-04-2006, 06:05 PM
Micro goat may have hit on this with "walking beam suspension" im not sure what that is, but it may be what im thinking of.

Take a leaf spring, turn it upside down, bold one end to one axle and the other end to the other axle, then mount the center on the frame so it is hinged, kinda like on a road scraper.

cartronicshn
01-11-2007, 05:15 AM
ok, so i haven't done much lately, been busy raggin on my touareg with a novak ss 5800 :twisted: , haven't finished any of my latest projects:roll: , my k2 3s bronco is halfway there:roll: , and i decided to start with this project:shock: , so here are some pics, the specs are about the usual,
Tlt-kit
bearings
Unimoger's link mount"thumbsup"
Stampede Tranny( Dez loves this tranny:lol: )
Tlt wheels and tires(for now)
Steel yokes
Traxxas sliders
My custom made chassis

Here are some pics, please let me know what i can do to make it beter, haven't mounted the tranny and motor yet, the chassis is 3 wide, so it will be a tight fit lmk if you have any suggestions, pics would be better:lol:

cartronicshn
01-11-2007, 05:17 AM
some more pics, i know my fab skill suck:lol:

Hurley0706
01-11-2007, 12:40 PM
I know we all build with what we have laying around most of the time, but I think the colors are kind of killing it for me. The neon green and purple is what I mean.

I really love these builds, and I think you have a decent start, we all know how bad mock up can look.

I think some high lift tires or some super narrow geos would look killer on there.

Good Luck and nice rig.

Josh

cartronicshn
01-11-2007, 12:46 PM
hey man thanks for the honest comment"thumbsup" , but like you said it's a mock up, stil don't know what shocks to use, i was thinking tlt, i have couple sets of integy's also, tires i was thinking geo's maybe, rims i have some wabash, not sure if 2.2 look to big if not i have some 1.9 backordered on tower, at least we are thinking alike;-) , my main concern is how the hell i'am going to stuff the stampede tranny an motor assembly in there:shock: , keep the suggestions coming guys:)

slobin3d
01-11-2007, 03:19 PM
i have a new set of 4 highlift wheels and tires i could part with"thumbsup"

kaetwo
01-11-2007, 03:39 PM
Here I am bustin my A$$ trying to find a Unimog cab like that and everyone but me are pulling them out of the woodwork.

You've got a great find there. Do you have any specs on the cab? I'm curious to know who makes it.

As far as ideas....I like the 6x6 setup. I think a set of 1.9's would look great on there. I've taken a set of TLT tires and cut off the larger side (the side that has the larger diameter hole for the rim) and take 2 tires and make 1 skinny 1.9 tire. They look great, there a tad taller than the highlifts and they have a great scale looking tread. Mount those on a set of tamiya hummer rims and BAM!!!!

I would also look at using captured springs with turned down TLT shocks. As far as trannies....try a RC4WD R2 and stand it upright or lay it down if you want a more slender look. I like them upright and sticking down past the chassis rails like the Euro Trials Trucks.

Once again....dang nice find!

Thanks!

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microgoat
01-11-2007, 05:37 PM
Off to a good start! I'd lower it, though. A lot. Put shorter/softer springs in, and let suspension droop give you articulation. This will make the truck more stable, as well as eliminate what's sure to be horrible driveshaft angles, and make it look more scale at the same time.

Glad to see some work getting done "thumbsup"

Mechanicalbob
01-11-2007, 06:19 PM
This is a very cool build. I think you should go with a walking beam setup with two axles outback.

http://www.transport.tas.gov.au/publications/heavy_manual/gfx/walking_beam_suspension.gif

Where did you find the Mog body?

Steve

cartronicshn
01-12-2007, 06:30 AM
Thanks Goat for the comments, Mechanicalbob and Kaetwoo, the truck i bought of some department store here in Honduras, it was roughly $13.00, these stores have a lot of chinese made toys in all kinds of "brands", i'am of to get a couple more today so i will see what i can find out on these trucks.
Slobin3d if you are c.c. ready we can do bussiness, my paypal is maxxed out.

cartronicshn
01-12-2007, 08:45 AM
[quote=kaetwo]Here I am bustin my A$$ trying to find a Unimog cab like that and everyone but me are pulling them out of the woodwork.

You've got a great find there. Do you have any specs on the cab? I'm curious to know who makes it.

Hi Kaetwo, the only specs i know is they are chinese and very cheap:lol: , i went to the same store and they had like 6 more like the one in my project and a dozen more that were remote controlled, i also bought another truck since they were on sale:) , roughly $6.50 for the red one in the pics, hope you find the name on the box helpful, but i doubt it.

kaetwo
01-12-2007, 09:15 AM
Would you be willing to ship a few to me? I would be more than happy to pay you for your trouble. If not I totally understand.

Thanks for going out of your way to snap those photo's.

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cartronicshn
01-12-2007, 09:57 AM
Kaetwo, i would have to check what the cheapest way of shipping is though, and also if you noticed the packaging on these things is not the best, so i would have to be shipped on a bigger box with padding, let me look into it on monday and a i will gladly let you know:)

kaetwo
01-12-2007, 12:39 PM
Kaetwo, i would have to check what the cheapest way of shipping is though, and also if you noticed the packaging on these things is not the best, so i would have to be shipped on a bigger box with padding, let me look into it on monday and a i will gladly let you know:)

I really appreciate that!

Any more done on the build? I'm curious what you have decided on as far as chassis/axle mounts. Are you going to stick with the 4 link? Or go for the 6x6? :-)

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cartronicshn
01-12-2007, 12:59 PM
i'am sticking with 4x4 but am thinking on the separate shock/ spring deal, i probably will do a 6x6 later on when i get more experience, also a k2 3l would look awesome with a mog;-)

kaetwo
01-12-2007, 01:08 PM
i'am sticking with 4x4 but am thinking on the separate shock/ spring deal, i probably will do a 6x6 later on when i get more experience, also a k2 3l would look awesome with a mog;-)

Hey I just happy to sell K2-3L chassis's :-)

I think it would look great under that mog. I plan to do one myself LOL

;-)

Double J
01-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Since I'm selling mine I think I could part with these.
I have 8 sets of the these tires and 8 rims. 2 are powdered black and the rest are chrome but can easily be coated to match. I only did two to see if I liked it.
I say make it 6X6. EDIT: But I'm no Expert. :0
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e269/coy5840/gooseneck%20trailer/Dcp02624.jpg

kaetwo
01-12-2007, 01:15 PM
Since I'm selling mine I think I could part with these.
I have 8 sets of the these tires and 8 rims. 2 are powdered black and the rest are chrome but can easily be coated to match. I only did two to see if I liked it.
I say make it 6X6.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e269/coy5840/gooseneck%20trailer/Dcp02624.jpg

PM sent

;-)

I second the 6x6 too. Just go for it!!!!

LOL

Double J
01-12-2007, 01:24 PM
PM sent

;-)

I second the 6x6 too. Just go for it!!!!

LOL

I'm selling my Unimog looking thing, so I won't need the rims and tires.

cartronicshn
01-12-2007, 02:56 PM
Check it out Kaetwo, i will take them apart tomorrow and ship monday, unluckily for me i will send you my red one as they had sold the others:x , but they will probably have some in a month or so:) so i can get more, also i just couldn't resist and i got the big rig:shock: , don't know what i will do with it but i will think of something:twisted:

kaetwo
01-12-2007, 03:15 PM
LOL!!!!!!

Where all a bunch of toy freaks :-)

I really appreciate all your help. I can't wait to receive them.

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EeePee
01-12-2007, 03:20 PM
Where all a bunch of ... freaks :-)

Not as much as you are. "thumbsup"

kaetwo
01-12-2007, 03:41 PM
Not as much as you are. "thumbsup"

I know you but what am I biatch :-)

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cartronicshn
01-18-2007, 09:39 AM
Mock up with a k2 3s"thumbsup" , i'am leaning towards throwing my homemade chassis in the trash know:lol:

tmaxxking1
01-18-2007, 12:05 PM
looks great

ive been looking all over the net for the blue cab and bed you have on your truck

what company makes it

cartronicshn
01-18-2007, 12:09 PM
Have no clue whatsoever, all i know is ,they are made in china:lol: , but they come in different brands as you can tell by the pics.

kaetwo
01-20-2007, 06:33 PM
Well I need to give cartronicshn a shout out for shipping me out 2 Unimogs so quickly. His service and willingness to help is amazing and I really appreciate it. There in tip top shape. He even called me to make sure that hey arrived okay.

Thanks again!!!!!

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cartronicshn
03-14-2007, 07:53 PM
Well this build keeps changing and dragging along:lol: , the mog has an official chassis it's a k2 3L, i think it looks very good"thumbsup" , still haven't mounted the body, but this more or less what it will look like when finished (obvious painting is needed).

Touring car shocks
K2 3L chassis
hpi stock car wheels
hi lift tires
novak esc
stock 540(for now:twisted:)
pede tranny

trickedrc10t4
03-27-2007, 03:51 PM
illl take ur homemade chassis dont throw it away let me know when u get rid of it as im wanting it

cartronicshn
07-05-2007, 05:19 PM
I got my new tires for my mog, i still haven't put a bed on it, but is one of my favorites rigs as it is right now, well i can say that i'am impressed with these tires from rc4wd, they are super soft and grippy, 100% improvement fron the hl tires on my initial test run, i'll post a video tomorrow, i still have to glue the tires on the wheels ,and my fj cruiser is getting the same treatment"thumbsup"

dezfan
07-05-2007, 07:27 PM
Looks good Carlos!

Better hurry and finish it, my new scaler will be on the board soon!:twisted:

cartronicshn
07-06-2007, 05:18 PM
Thanks Joe, i have to paint this sucker still, and put the bed on it, i was thinking painting it flat grey, what do you guys think?

Brandon
07-08-2007, 01:43 AM
Looks awesome man! I have the same tires but not sure if I want to run them on my 6x6 mog. You changed my mind, they are going on there for sure!!

cartronicshn
07-08-2007, 01:02 PM
Thanks for the kind words:) , i really like how it makes the mog look more truckish, and they are an awesome tire compred to the hl's."thumbsup"

cartronicshn
07-11-2007, 10:05 AM
I finally decided to get to work on the bed of this truck, and i orignally had though about just putting the stock one on, but i have seen a bunch of flat bed builds on the forum that i have really liked, so i decided i want to go with that:) , here are some mock up pics, the batteries will be hidden away on a tool box that will sit on top of the bed, lmk what you think.