R.u.b.b.

[Rikpal]

Time to show something about a new project. I don't know if I'm happy or not. :lol:
I didn't build nothing yet, I just disassembled the body and slapped onto Hellcat (my16"WB clod)
This thing is huge. It doesn't matter how many time you see a 1:6 body in pics, When you see it in personit is much bigger than you expected.
See how little is my hand in the left of the picture.
Another time scale will be one of the goal of this project.
The final should look as a bad 4 long arm suspension Rubicon.
The known parts are the axles and the tranny, TXT for the first and E-maxx for the second. Tranny will be sure geared down.
wheels and tires aren't chosen yet, but a probable choice could be cut Mammoth ones.
Anopther choice could be cut clod rims with narrowed clod tires
I obviously will keep the interior, I need a driver (maybe 2)
Frame will be homemade as all the other part will.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0631.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0632.jpg

Thanks

[jwrape]

I have built a few of these 1/6 scale trucks and Jeeps. I first built one of the Hummers on a USA-1 drive train that was stretched to fit. IT couldn't pull itself out of it's own way. i sold that one on Ebay.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid153/p509e90694c6cff25853dc39d73e6e743/f5917578.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid153/pd31727ff25a51ce533712a00c4165d2d/f591757d.jpg
My next one was my Clod Jeep. It turned out alot better. It is a great crawler but it is a GI Joe Jeep body made by Hasbro. It's a lot lighter than the New Bright one's
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid148/ped038224b50ff1754017b527a1d5843f/f6096ad6.jpg
The 3rd 6th scale I built was the Avalanche Buster. It is VERY heavy but with 55t Lathe motors it does pretty good.
http://www.clodtalk.com/files/im000879.jpg

[jwrape]

http://www.clodtalk.com/files/im000880.jpg
http://www.clodtalk.com/files/im000884.jpg

Then i built my TLT 1/6 scale 21st century GI joe Jeep. It is the best so far. It has a Emaxx 2 speed tranny in it. I actually just bought another body to built another on of these with a single speed tranny this time.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid153/p6dc38b1603bc3b831117768b792e1c6e/f596aad9.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid153/p8a0855168f8424eb1daeed6b5d0b0a1a/f596aae9.jpg

[jwrape]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid156/pf71ed5e8b96b8b3be4ee2dacc3e08330/f5471aaf.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid156/pb9d619ff0a4a9f5fb3006c87dbe052e9/f5471aab.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid156/p9f034661afe9582504360857e80ab362/f5471aa2.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid156/p29514bb3c175c7d798db5f8c5cf96716/f5471aa6.jpg

[jwrape]

Sorry for all the posts but I can't post more than 4 pics on each...


Anyway, the one piece of advice I have is either gear it down A LOT, cause that body has to be heavy, or take some weight off of it any way you can.

I had to remove the interior from the Avalanche to make it light enough for the suspension to hold it up. :shock: I plan to remove the fake motor plate out from under the hood to make it even lighter. Definately run either Magnetic mayhems or Lathe motors with 9t pinions as well as, of course, High torque servo's. I have 144 oz. servo's on mine and with the weight, they are just enough to turn the wheels sitting still.

But on the flip side, they are awesome looking and fun to drive and it's fun to see the kids in my neighborhood that have the regular New Bright trucks drool on themselves watching mine drive. They all want one.

I personally love my Jeeps. I wasn't a 1:1 Jeep fan until I started building mine and now i wouldn't mind having one of my own. :)
Keep us up to date with how it is going, I was curious myself about that New Bright Jeep. i was thinking about building one when they becaome cheaper on Ebay. :)

Let us know your progress.

Also, does that body come with any lights? i know the other New Brights have a bunch of accessories.

[AdamF]

I'm also building a 1/6 scale Hummer body. Very heavy, and I need to run a limiting strap in order to keep it from maxing out the suspension. It has a lot of sway due to the bdy being heavy as well. I might need to firm up the suspension.


I like that Jeep body. Should turn out good if its anything like the previous trucks you've built!

Your very right about the bodies looking small in the pictures. They are absolutly huge in person!

[jwrape]

Nice Hummer! I like it...

[Grizzly4x4]

That Rubicon body is fawkin sweet Rikpal (for a Jeep :flipoff: :lol:)

I'm not building a 1/6 scale rig but here a pic I wanted to post. :wink: :lol: :lol:

[pinkfloydman]

nice pic,

and for the orignal poster, waht material nad whats the frame gonna look like? is it gonna be a scale like frame like on a jeep, or one like on a TXT or TLT

[Rikpal]

Thanks to all.
Jwrape: nice rigs :) you should have a big room to hold them :lol:
Thanks for the tips.

Adamf: Nice hummer. You should lower the body a bit IMO, but I'm scale mad :lol:

Griz: :lol:

Pinkfloydman: Frame will be scale one. The first idea is to build something similar to Pitbull, but I'd like to have bended reils as the real one. I just have to find a way to do it. Bad thing is I can't weld so It's a difficult goal to get ;)

[Rikpal]

Time a little update (very little tho :lol:)

Here's the bottom of the body.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0633.jpg

As you can see if I mount the motor in the stock position the tranny is too low.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0635.jpg

Definately too low. Easy way could be removing body part.
That's not the Rik's way :lol:
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0636.jpg

If I could mount the motor on the opposite side of the motor plate
the tranny should be more or less in the right position.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0637.jpg

Better situation, isn't it?
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0638.jpg

Not only, there is some plastic I could dremel away without touching the interior.
When i'll trimm the body the tranny will be raised around 1/2 inch more.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0640.jpg

Time to hack, mill and file. The added motor plate is done.
Here's a mockup but everything is already bolted.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0641.jpg

The unit in place. There will be a gear reduction (similar to the ones I built for Hellcat "Roktoy's style") between the motor and the plate. I'm gonna use 48P pinions to build it to keep it small.
I should have a 2,5:1 (max ratio) reduction. Talking about ratios, the lowest I could have should be 105:1 in first gear and 65:1 in second gear. The highest ratios should be 16,8:1 in first and 10.4 in second.
Muhahahahahahahahahahahah.
Simply idiot ratios on a big tire truck, but the range is this :)
I'm thinking about 86,7:1 in first and 53,8:1 in second using a 16T motor.
This is a scale project, so it needs some speed ;)
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0642.jpg

Now the question is will a single motor have enough torque to pull this thing?
I mean it's usual for you to convert shafty rigs into a single motor truck, but those are lightweight truck this NOT :)
I could always add the second, but I'd prefer a single to increase runtime.

What do ya think?

[mike]

is the body stiff enouph to use it as your chassis?

[Bsmooth]

Rik,

As I am sure you know, two motors mean twice the torque, but also twice the amperage. It all depends on the final weight I guess, Most of these crawlers here are around the 8 pounds (~3.5kg) and they run single motors. How much does all that body work weigh anyway?

[fastmaxxcooper]

I have built a few of these 1/6 scale trucks and Jeeps. I first built one of the Hummers on a USA-1 drive train that was stretched to fit. IT couldn't pull itself out of it's own way. i sold that one on Ebay.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid153/p509e90694c6cff25853dc39d73e6e743/f5917578.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid153/pd31727ff25a51ce533712a00c4165d2d/f591757d.jpg


ah ur hummer was heavy because the interior detail. the hummer i picked up had tinted windows and no interior. its much lighter

[Rikpal]

Sorry for the late guys ;)
I'm busy in these days, but found some time to work on RUBB.
I'm gonna keep the dual motor setup tho. If this thing will weight proportionally to Pitbull, it will be HEAVY :lol:


Time for a little update.
After some thinking and repositioning I decided to build a geared down T-case.
I first though to use TXT gears, with a ton of custom work,
including building something to lock the first gear on the T-case input shaft.
then something clicked in my mind and a TXT diff compared in my brain.
After some other thinking I looked at the old Juggy 1 axles I have laying around.
Fortunately I didn't trash them. ;)

Here's my T-case. Ratio inside is 1,75 :1, not so bad.
I'm not sure I wanna keep the motor gear reduction at this point.
I could easily reach ratios around 70:1 in first gear without the reduction :)
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0643.jpg

BasicallyI chopped the ends of the axle plastic case.
And of course I had to re work the shafts.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0654.jpg

This is what I ended with.
I hacked the stock shafts and milled the ends to make them fit with maxx drive shafts
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0646.jpg

I'm very proud of this. Some of you machining Gods will tell "where's the difficulty?",
but consider that I haven't a lathe ;)
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0650.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0651.jpg

Then started to think about frame.
Here's all the part in the place where they will be.
Of course the axles will be there on full compressed position.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0661.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0662.jpg

Believe or not, but the frame and the T-case are in place where they will be. ;)
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0660.jpg

[Bsmooth]

Rik! That is AWESOME! Great use of a tamiya axle! Maybe I need a bigger truck :)

[mike]

nice truck.!

[pinkfloydman]

looking good, looks ing good, but whawt are you going to do with the fac tthat when the shocks arent compressed fully the wheels dont fit under the wheelwells, that a problem that i see with theese "scale rigs"

[BENDER]

Nice work Rikpal! I love the t-case idea. How did you turn the input shaft on axle (t-case) 90 degrees? Got any pics of t-case with top cap off?

[Rikpal]

Thanks to all. ;)

Bsmooth: big is cool :lol: (I love my little TJ tho)

Pinkfloydman: I think the problem is a geometry related one.
I mean as in every other 4 linked truck if I have the links too steep in the riding position the suspension movement will affect a lot the wheelbase.
My idea is to build a high droop setup, not a high compression one. The links will be as much parallel to the ground as I can (as the real ones have). ;)

Bender: ask and you'll be given :lol:
(read below)

Here's the complete driveline as it will be.
The connecting shaft is more or less at the right lenght
Note the dust cover between the stock motor plate and the homemade one. (it fit so I'm gonna keep it ;) )
I still have to build a gear reduction dust cover.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0673.jpg

Here's the topgear with the new top shaft into it.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0669.jpg

The top gear in place. The juggy diff is right under it.
As you can there's very little work to have the upper output shaft coming out from the side.
I just dremeled a hole. The top gear is bearing supported at both ends.
I just replaced one of the 2 stock bearing (5x11) with another that fit the bigger diameter of the shaft (6x11).
The only thing still to be done is some epoxy between the gear and the shaft to avoid the shaft to be pulled out.
In the pic on top of the gear you can see the place where the original shaft and where the bevels gears should go. ;)
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0672.jpg

As you can see I chopped the axle box before (or after it depends from you :lol: ) the stock bearing housing, so the T-case is closed for any dirt.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0671.jpg

T-case will be here. It seems to be built for this body :lol:
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0674.jpg

This is the front section of the right frame rail after some hacking and mill trimmimg.
I still have to bolt the pieces togheter. ;)
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0665.jpg

Hope this explain all. If not, please ask.

[BENDER]

Again nice job. Thanks for the pics. Do you have a way to mill a snap ring groove in the input shaft, instead of epoxy? You should be able to do it on your mill, put the shaft in the spindle and clamp a tool in vice (jewlers file) and sneak up on it. ;)

[Rikpal]

Do you have a way to mill a snap ring groove in the input shaft, instead of epoxy? You should be able to do it on your mill, put the shaft in the spindle and clamp a tool in vice (jewlers file) and sneak up on it. ;)

That's an idea. I didn't think enough no matter how much I think :lol:

[Rikpal]

Time for a little update :)
Very little tho :lol :

I hacked the frame rails. I don't wanna just a couple of straight rails. I wanna something more scale. So I cut each rail in three part (as already shown).

These are the ends of the pieces after some milling trim.
http://67.18.37.15/1212/173/upload/p7126741.jpg

And here's the frame. It's gonna taking shape :)
I started to build the tranny brackets even. Basically a couple of L profile that will be bolted on the rails, but the tranny will be angled. to low thw motors (CG pourposes) and to increase the room for axle movement. I'll take the pics tomorrow.

http://67.18.37.15/1212/173/upload/p7126785.jpg

;)

[roktoy]

Nice work there and some new unique ideas!

Keep the pics coming.....

Jay

[Rikpal]

Thanks Jay :)

Tranny is gonna be in place. I still have to drill some holes, but the brackets are done. ;)
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0678.jpg
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0679.jpg
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0680.jpg

Why angled? There are some reason.
The most evident is to increase room under the tranny.
If I keep the tranny parallel to the ground the front drive shaft could hit the bottom of the tranny.
I can't mount the tranny with the output higher than the T-case output. There's the f****** hood :). But angled tranny will raise the output.
In any case I can't mount the top links in the usual position, but the moved tranny should give room to buld a link setup similar to this:
http://4wdandsportutility.com/tech/02114wd_skidding01_zoom.jpg
This setup could seems a bit strange, but it will act as a 2 link.
There will be a front Panhard Bar even. (I'm scared cause I have no idea how the panhard bargeometry works but it's scale so I want it :lol: )
A side pros of the angled tranny is that motors will be lower and CG will thank ;)

[SR5Dave]

That is awesome Rik, I have been wanting to do something like this for a while! I love the divorced (a word we use for a separated tranny and t-case) setup!

Too cool man!

[Rikpal]

Thanks man:)

I decided to build mockup of the front suspension with parts I have laying around, just to see how this work.
Nothing is decided yet. I'm just in a thinking phase. :)

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0684.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0685.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0686.jpg

Well this could be an interesting different situation.
The triangulation of the short links with the long ones completely eliminates the lateral movement of the axle without any panhard bar. But the axle still have plenty of movement. The only problem could be the axle move a lot outward the "chassis", but I think this could be solved playing with links lenght and position as well.
As usual time will tell.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0687.jpg

I still can't understand why the 1:1 rigs have a panhard bar even with 4 link setup.
This is a review of the "Full Traction" long arm suspension for a Rubicon. There are 4 links at front and 3 links at rear but there's a panhard bar even and I can't understand why ;)
If someone have some explanation for me they will be greatly appreciated :)

[roktoy]

I still can't understand why the 1:1 rigs have a panhard bar even with 4 link setup.
This is a review of the "Full Traction" long arm suspension for a Rubicon. There are 4 links at front and 3 links at rear but there's a panhard bar even and I can't understand why ;)
If someone have some explanation for me they will be greatly appreciated :)

In a case like that, the front requires a panhard for lateral axle location. The motor & tranny location makes it hard to triangulate the four links so they end up more parallel when looking from above. The four links are mounted to outboard mounts on the axle and then up on or near the frame rails at the chassis end.

Jay

[Rikpal]

So it's only a "not enough triangulation" problem. I presumed it. Thanks Jay.

I wanted see a mockup of the entire rig :)
No other rig parts here. Axles, tranny, t-case and shafts are all in the place where they will be.
This should be the ride height. What do ya think? should I lift the body a bit or is it OK like this?
Personally I like it low.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0688.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0689.jpg

A couple of naked pics
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0693.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0694.jpg

The front drive shaft
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0691.jpg

The rear one
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0692.jpg

And the T-case.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0695.jpg

As you can see there a bit of clearance in the center of the rig.
I only have some doubts about the drive shafts angle.
It's less than 45 deg that crawler guru from ORCRC stated to be the maximum of the universals, but not so less ;) I can easily lower the T-case, but there's a secret plan that push me to keep it high. ;) The final center clearance should be something around 4,5/5". Now it's near to 6".
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0697.jpg

What do ya think?

[SR5Dave]

I think the height looks great. Keep it up man!

[JasonInAugusta]

Rikpal,

That'll be a cool scaler. One thing is for sure, you've got bigger balls than me. I don't think I could bring myself to sacrifice an axle to make a T-case. Good job!

Cut mammoths are going to take forever to do. :( I have yet to finish mine.

I like the extruded tubing idea as well. I had been thinking about ways to make a Bruiser-esque frame and that idea never popped into my head.

Cool deal, we need action pics!

[BENDER]

Rikpal,

I think the body looks perfect where it is. Nice work with the frame rails. I'm with JIA we need some action shots. :mrgreen:

[mike]

Thanks Jay :)

http://4wdandsportutility.com/tech/02114wd_skidding01_zoom.jpg
This setup could seems a bit strange, but it will act as a 2 link.
There will be a front Panhard Bar even. (I'm scared cause I have no idea how the panhard bargeometry works but it's scale so I want it :lol: )


ya i saw the same suspension set up in one of my 4 wheel mags.
the uck looks like it will be alot of fun to drive. :)

[RCALLOYS]

Whoa, haven't checked this project in awhile. Looks like you're moving right along. I especially like the transfer case! However, like JIA said.........I couldn't bring myself to hack an axle housing ;-). Nice work on the shafts too, milling the flats and all. I'll be watching this project for sure!

[Rikpal]

Thanks to all for the kind words guys.
I'm not sure about your balls Jason :lol: BTW I hacked a Juggy 1 axle. The bevel gears were stripped a lot, so the axle was almost worthless, but I liked to have found a way to use it.
Action pics will come for sure :) and a vid even.

Now the little update.
Friday when I went home I found a 2 packages. A little one and a big one.
The little one contained the ESC for the project (Novak SR), the big one contained the mammoth wheels and tires. :) Those tires are perfect in size IMO. They are a little shorter than the clod ones, but looks good. I'm going to spend some time cutting them obviously.
Now that I have the wheels I can't started to think seriously about the geometry.

I've done some work. Completed the T-case brackets and mounted it on the frame.
There's still a ton of work to be done but this thing is taking shape.

Here's a couple of mockupics with the new shoes. ;)
Obviously I need some wideners, but I'd like to narrow the rims so I'll wait a bit before build them.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0702.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0704.jpg

Then I decided to keep the frame as it is. Battery won't be placed under the T-case.
I have to think about another position. I'd like to have it low tho.
This allow me to lower the body and the frame a bit. but center clearance is still enough.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0705.jpg

Naked shot
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0707.jpg

I probably found a good geometry. Next step will be a couple of plates for the lower links.
Upper ones will be bolted directly on the frame.

Oh I decided to go for usual 4 links in the front even. There's enough room for that.
I have olnly a doubt and if you could help me it will be greatly appreciated.
I wanna keep the body low. that's for look and for CG reasons.
Doing it means that I have to think about a "LOTOFDROOP" suspension.
I'm gonna have the links parallel to the ground and frame at full compression. This means that during articulation the axle will "turn" a lot. What should I do? Should I ignore this to keep the great center clearance, or should I lower the links frame attaching points to correct a bit this?
What do ya think? ;)

[SR5Dave]

They axles will actually turn less with the links being flat than they would if they were at an angle, don't worry about it ;)

[crunk crawlin]

man that thing is killer . i love that tranfer case idea . are you going to repaint the body when the fabrication is done

[rocpede]

That Thing Is Sweet

[Rikpal]

Thanks for the replies guys :)
I don't know if I'll repaint the body. I haven't thought about that. I'll surely remove a lot of stickers tho ;)
BTW the side links mounting plates are done. Links are mounted.
I sterted to play with shocks and encoutered some problem due to the width of the frame. I mean there's not a lot of room.

I'm currently working on the rear end.
I wanna use some masking tape to keep the dampers in place :lol:
I'm not sure it will work. If not I'll build something stronger,
but the position will be more or less this.
http://img231.exs.cx/img231/8238/img07125jp.jpg

http://img231.exs.cx/img231/1690/img07112rk.jpg

First articulation test. Not so bad IMO
Considering it's a scale rig and this is the rear only ;)
http://img231.exs.cx/img231/5893/img07098du.jpg

http://img231.exs.cx/img231/2996/img07103uv.jpg

What do ya think?

[SR5Dave]

I'd say that's plenty of flex, I just built a scale rig and I'd say it had less than that.

How does it look from the side on flex? Does it push the tire up into the fender?

[Rikpal]

Yes Dave the tire goes right into the fender. Maybe a little too much, but I don't know if I'll build some wideners or not yet.
I'll take a pic from the side ;)

[Rikpal]

Rear suspension is done :)
There's a little trimming needed, but all the part are in place.
I'll probably will end with different springs. These are a bit too soft.
The suspension is almost all compressed with the body on it.
http://img199.exs.cx/img199/6048/img071424au.jpg

http://img199.exs.cx/img199/1887/img071321dm.jpg

Yes but the front even seems to be completed.
Over the 1:8 rear buggy shocks I placed the front shock's springs.
It's just an idea, but this should give me the low ride height and allow lot of droop.
I simulated the narrowed rims and the tires are at the right position without any widener.
The wider tires give me room for the shocks in standard position.
http://img199.exs.cx/img199/3854/img072021hl.jpg

Flexing :D Not too bad for a scale rig isn't it?
http://img199.exs.cx/img199/9184/img071921ok.jpg

http://img199.exs.cx/img199/8525/img071821lw.jpg

http://img199.exs.cx/img199/7286/img071723xv.jpg

http://img199.exs.cx/img199/2521/img071623dm.jpg

Opinions?

[SR5Dave]

Looks sweet! I love the fender stuffing.

That thing really is just awesome, I can't wait to see some crawling!

[Rikpal]

HEHEHE
Thanks Dave I admit I'm proud how it is turning out ;)
There's a ton of work to be done before I could take some action pics tho

[Rikpal]

Not a big update here but something happens.

Well as I said the rear springs were too soft to support the rig weight.
I replaced them with the 1:8 front ones using the system AdamF shared.
It works great. Artic isn't affected, but the rig is raised a bit. I've lowered the body then.
I replaced the front springs even with longer ones with same stiffness.
Now the ride height is set at somthing around 5 inches of center clearance.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0730.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0731.jpg

I worked on the steering and this is the result.
The f****** digicam's battery died when I was taking some close-ups.
It seems to work fine with a very little amount of bump steer.
If someone has something to suggest to limit it I'll appreciate, but I think I've done the maximum.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0732.jpg

I built the rear steering lockout even and moved the T-case with the motor for the first time.
It seems to work fine.

;)

[BENDER]

Those tires and wheels look awesome under that body, I'm still amazed how big that body is. :shock:

Looking sweet!!

[Rikpal]

Thanks Bender :)
Yes it's big and if you see it in person you would find it bigger than you expected :lol:
I think the tires are perfect scale. They should be 35" in real life.
I'm only scared about the cutting.:)

BTW Digicam is charged ;)

Body is still to be secured, but it won't take so much.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0733.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0734.jpg

Naked shot
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0735.jpg

Steering close up. Consider that here the frame is higher than it should be at ride heght.
There's not the weight of the body on it. Sterring rods angle is thinner.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0737.jpg

Tranny and T-case.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0738.jpg

Skidplate
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0739.jpg

Rear steering lockout.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0740.jpg

These are some shot I took for the one interested in bumpe steer and frame mounted servo:

That the ride height
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0745.jpg

That's at full extended bump steer is a lot
Remember I set up the suspension to have a lot of droop and a bit of compression.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0746.jpg

Fully compressed
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0747.jpg

Articulating
http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0748.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/Rikpal/IMG_0749.jpg

Hope this could help

I'm currently working on the shifting servo, then I think I could have a test run
I decided I'll test with not so low gearing first. I'm gonna test this thing at 67,45:1 in first and 41,89:1 in second. I'm gonna use the 16T motor shown in the pics, only one for thje moment.

I still have to decide where to mount the battery. I see 3 options, but I'm open to suggestions.
The more confortable position is probably on the body under the rear seats, but this mean a high position that surely will affect CG. Not only, this is a crawler even if a scale one, so add weight to the rear is not a good idea.
Another position is between the rear frame rails. Similar to the previous but lowered by 2/5 inches (more or less).
The third position is low, I'm gonna build some side skidplates that will go from the frame to the lowest side of the body.
Battery could be placed there, but I'm thinking about having the battery weight on one side.
I could use 2 battery as well...

I have to think harder :lol:

[rocpede]

that looks sweet can't wait to see action pics

[Got Rocks?]

mannn rik your slow! ill post up a pic for you!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/IMG_1978.jpg

[mesaAZclod]

i like the tires before these ones ^^^ you have one it..

[Rikpal]

Well it's a long time since I post anything here.
It's time to show you tha BB on the trail, even if there are a ton of things to do ;)

For the very first serious test, I'm happy. :D

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2129.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2128.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2127.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2130.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2131.jpg

Just to show you the size :lol: Say hello to my little lady ;)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2132.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2133.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2134.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2135.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2136.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2141.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2142.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2143.jpg

What do ya think? ;)

[raytard]

I want it! DIBS!


That's...! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_28_100.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZZ)


You should sell the chassis/tranny set-up as a Kit? ;-) $$$$$$$$$$$$...

[dezfan]

Very scale in appearance! Looks fantastic! Congrats!

[thebigJAT]

This picture is almost too good. A nice bumper on the front and a scale winch would be the icing on the cake.
Ecellent job.

A good photochop of someone in the picture to scale would make it even more believable.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2135.jpg

[Rikpal]

Thanks guys ;)

Sorry man I'm not going to mass produce it.

There will be front and rear bumper, winch (functional of course), Spyder customs style rollcage. At least these the plans :lol:

Here are some other shots.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2169.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2195.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2196.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2197.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2198.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2200.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2201.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2202.jpg

Ops :lol:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2203.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2204.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2205.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2206.jpg

I'm not sure the body will last a lot if I'll keep driving like I do :lol:
Fenders are scratched, and as you can see I need a bumper soon ;)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2207.jpg

Suddenly something looks wrong in the rear end :lol:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2213.jpg
Quick investigation shows me this, I asked too much to one ball end ;)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2212.jpg
Even the threaded rod that keep the ball ends in place are too small for the weight of the rig.
I think I'll replace with bigger ones.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Rikpal/RUBB/RUBB_action_pics/IMG_2214.jpg

This thing is so heavy I'm thinking to add a second motor ;)

[thaclodking]

Probaby the most realistic 1:6 scaler I have ever seen. Good work!

[MaxxinINtheAZ]

Oh man those tires look awesome! Very nice work!

[Rikpal]

Thanks ;)

I just realized that now there's a "scale rig" forum here. It wasn't when I started the project :lol:
Can someone move this into the proper location?

[Rikpal]

Thanks ^^^^^^^ ;)

[Unimoger]

That truck looks so real it is scary! Amazing job on the scaleness and details, keep us posted with lots o' pics. :mrgreen:

[WRXronald]

that is simply AWESOME!!!

what is that rubi body taken from?


very impressive work, and even more impressive pics.... some look convincingly REAL.

[1BadJeepBruiser]

Looks great ripkal, definitely the most scale looking 1:6 around :mrgreen:


mike

[TANK]

best use of anything off of a nylint ive ever seen great job!!!

[run2jeepn]

I really can't say anything that anyone else already as. That things looks and flex's just the real thing. Great Job.

[ColquittCustom405]

T-case idea was smart.Looks sweet dude.How many hours do you have in this so far?

[nico14]

Wow! He looks good! good work :shock:

It's a luxury nylint:lol:

Excellent!

[R/C_rock_rebel]

realy nice scale rig keep up the great work and btw i like how you mounted the steering servo

[trickedoutTLT06]

WHOA THATS AWESOME!! Great work!! i wish i had that kind of talent:-(

[plyr2k]

the body is off a 1/6 new bright it has txt/jugg 2 axles a maxx tranny and nyling tires granted it does kinda look like a nylint im sure he would be more then happy to put it up against any nylint out there.

[Rikpal]

WOW guys you make me blush LOL

Unimogger Sure I'll post more as soon as I'll have something new to show I consider the rig at 50% done, cause I miss a LOT of particular ;-)

WRXronald It's a NewBright 1:6 Rubicon body

1badjeepbruiser thanks

Tank It's not a nylint, it's a newbright, only the tires are nylint, but thanks anyway ;-)

run2jeepn Yes I'm happy with the realism. I just need more power thought.

ColquittCustom Ops I have no idea about he time I spent on it I usually have some paralle projects and work on them on a cycle LOL

Nico14, RC rock rebel, trickedoutnylint Thanks. ;-)

plyr2k you got it LOL


Just to share some plans I have to say I wanna make it lighter.
This big bastard weight around 7,7Kg (17 pounds) as it is.
Since there are a lot of things that aren't on the rig yet I NEED to make it lighter.
Plans include f/r alloy bumpers, driver, winch, rollcage spare tires and lights.
I'm going to completely disassemble it and to pass most of the alloy parts under my mill to remove material.

Obviously pics will come ;)

[Got Rocks?]

sounds cool rik:-P 17lbs huh that how much a stock nylint weighs:lol:

[Rikpal]

sounds cool rik:-P 17lbs huh that how much a stock nylint weighs:lol:


REALLY? :shock:
What can I say lighter is better anyway :lol:

[Got Rocks?]

yup sure is :-P

[rcbeginner]

That's the most beautiful RC I've never seen....:shock:

[4RunnerKid]

:shock: that thing is amazing... great work! can't wait to see what's next.

[Scattman]

simply amazing

[Trikster]

My Italian is poor, but "Impressionante!" You need to pick up one of those 12" GI Joe style dolls to pilot your Jeep. Simply amazing work. I have a friend with one of the 1/6 scale Avalanche pickups so I know how big these are. I would love to do one, but will stick with TLT's and smaller. Too chicken to try. :D

[D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.]

dam that r.u.b.b. came out sweet....

[Frosty619]

WOW.....some of those pics look real. Nice work!

[Rikpal]

Thanks to all guys ;)