My WK comp rig Build, project Stein Steiger (SS)

[camel_rc]

Well, decided to build my own rig to compete with KingoftheHill (actually got my WK before him, but he got his stuff to make it 4x4 before me) at the upcoming comp at Cougar. Anyway, onto the pics!

The axles:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06263.jpg

WK compared to TLT:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06265.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06267.jpg

Cut out thermoplastic side plates:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06270.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06271.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06274.jpg

My stereo setup. A pair of 250w RAMSA moniters, 1000w QSC amp, Yamaha EQ, and a tape deck. I got all of it given to me by a friend. The cool part is, it has a 1/8" mini plug hook up, so I can rock out with my iPoo while working on stuff in the garage.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06276.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06277.jpg

Got bored, so I lit a POS LRP AI speed control on fire:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06278.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06279.jpg

Got back to work on the chassis:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06281.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06282.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06284.jpg

More pics will be posted tomorrow!

[pbfrk4life]

that isnt a wk tranny is it?

[camel_rc]

Nope, locked stealth out of a T3.

[Kingofthehill]

HAHAHA! Im Finished! you loose! a preview for the weekend :lol: "thumbsup"

Looks good BTW!

http://i15.tinypic.com/348o75j.jpg

[pbfrk4life]

where in socal do u guys live? im gonna be working on a wk project soon, and no 1 crawls in my part of cali.

[Kingofthehill]

where in socal do u guys live? im gonna be working on a wk project soon, and no 1 crawls in my part of cali.

your from clovis? fresno area right? If so, during college football season im up at every fresno home game... i would be down for some crawling up there too "thumbsup"

Were from Santa Clarita.. about 10 minutes from Magic Mountain

JOe

[pbfrk4life]

Oh, ok that isnt bad. I can normally get to Magic Mountain in about 2hrs.

Hopefully when i get some cash to snag up a wk ill be able to give you guys a run for your money, hehe.

Nice wks to both of you by the way.

[Kingofthehill]

2hrs is right on for me..

without driving like crazy fast i can make it to the campus in almost exactly 2hrs.

JOe

[clarkrw3]

What standoffs are those?? (chassis braces)

[Mriswith]

looks like stock TLT chassis braces or "stays"

[5150bronco]

cool rig, what kind of axles are those?

[Reflection]

cool rig, what kind of axles are those?


Go back and read the thread please

[cammok5]

"thumbsup" :lol: "thumbsup"

[camel_rc]

More pics!

Front axle:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06287.jpg

BTA on a wheely king...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06288.jpg

Rear axle:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06296.jpg

Basic setup:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06297.jpg

The since the stock shocks are just a wee bit to long (and I don't have the money to buy shorter ones, lol), I limited the down travel with a 3/4" length of fuel tubing:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06298.jpg

Since I'll be using a stealth tranny, I eliminated the slipper clutch by drilling out the 4-40 holes on one of the plate through to the other plate, then I tapped it to use a 3mm screws, which also hold the spur gear onto the plates:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06299.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06301.jpg

Carnage! Delrin is sharp before you grind it!
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06302.jpg

Another pic update is scheduled for tomorrow!

[pbfrk4life]

are those delrin sleeves on your links?

[NickRummy]

Trucks coming along nicely!

Do you have a side view pic of the truck so I can see what the caster angle looks like?

[Kingofthehill]

NICE! the Steering behind the axle is awesome!

JOe

[Big Mike]

What is your frame material? Is it a plastic laminated between thin aluminum sheet?
It looks like a material we used to use doing gas station canopy fabrication. Can't remember what it was called, but that's essentially what it was - 1/8" of light plastic laminated between 2 sheets of 1/16" aluminum sheet. Very light, yet very strong material.
Perfect for this application. I wish I still had some of the scrap stock we threw away...

[Big Mike]

Kingofthehill - your WK looks ready to rock, man. Nice...

[cotharyus]

Excellent looking truck. I'm hoping to get more time to work on mine this weekend. It's supposed to rain, so maybe....

[camel_rc]

Thanks guys!

pbfrk-It's actually delrin tube with a 2mm hole, drilled and tapped for 4mm grub screws one the ends

rummy-Later tonight, hopefully

[pbfrk4life]

where are you getting delrin tubes from?

[5150bronco]

what is delrin and what is it used for?

[freetimecrawler]

It's a Dupont chemical compound, super slick. Most commonly used for cutting boards.

[Rockpiledriver]

where are you getting delrin tubes from?


I'd like to know this too since I have been serchng for some time only to come up empty.

[NickRummy]

This place is about 3 minutes from my house. Call them up. Last time I talked to them I think their 1/4" OD 1/8" ID delrin only came in natural color and their solid 1/4" delrin rod came in black. You can get sheets of it through them too.

http://www.piedmontplastics.com/prodtype.asp?ID=9

[skellyo]

FYI, you can get delrin tubing from mcmaster.com Just do a search on delrin on their homepage and you'll find it in various ID and OD sizes.

[Froger]

If you are using it to cover links you can use BIC pens. They are 79 cent for a dozen and fit great. For chassis use cutting boards from Wal- mart, Big Lots, ...

[camel_rc]

I actually ordered my delrin from McMaster.

Here's some completed pics from the comp on Sunday:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Cougar%20Buttes/DSC06447.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Cougar%20Buttes/DSC06374.jpg

[motiracer38]

I can say that thing impressed me for not being driven before the comp. It is alittle wide for some gates, but worked better than some TLT rigs on others. We went and played around a little afterwards and it hung in with our two other TLT comp rigs just fine. I would suggest a little more shock tuning, but its almost there.

[5150bronco]

nice rig, like the black, any more pics of the suspension?

[Offroader5]

It's a Dupont chemical compound, super slick. Most commonly used for cutting boards.

No, no...now don't go out buying cutting boards and calling them Delrin..:lol:

Delrin is Duponts trademark name for acetal resin (for Googling purposes)

Common cutting boards you'll see in stores are made from either UHMW (ultra high molecular weight) polyethylene or HDPE (high density polyethylene)...which is great for skid plates, but is a bit harder to find in rod or tube form. Plus it is not as strong or rigid as Delrin.

I'd like to know this too since I have been serchng for some time only to come up empty.

I use two places online to buy all my plastic goods:

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/default.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1
http://www.interstateplastics.com/materials/

[Kingofthehill]

Oh....I'm very serious.

since everything else got deleted, i'll just X what i put

[Turblankas13]

Can u show me a pic of the driveshafts connecting to the tranny, did u use yokes like how did u change the tipe of drive shafts to the kind that tha have flex points?

[camel_rc]

Can u show me a pic of the driveshafts connecting to the tranny, did u use yokes like how did u change the tipe of drive shafts to the kind that tha have flex points?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/DSC06307.jpg

They're E-maxx heavy duty drive yolks bored out to fit over the outputs on the stealth.

[5150bronco]

I used the heavy duty ball ends and traxxas yokes, the biggest ones...

[camel_rc]

Updated for '08:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0520.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0517.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0518.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0521.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0522.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0526.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0527.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0529.jpg

Axles-Wheely king, JB locked, CVDs front, RCP high clearance knuckles, DED Engineering mounting plates, weighted, and shaved

Chassis-DED Engineering thermoplastic LT1.5, high clearance delrin links, delrin skidplate, stainless steel hardware, AE FT truck shocks w/ aluminum caps

Drivetrain-T3 stealth, JB locked, maxx HD shafts

Electronics-Castle MM, KMS (Korean Made Shat) outrunner, Towerpro servo, Airtroniks 2.4 radio, Multiplex 3s 2100mAH lipo

Recycled body, M2K's on double narrowed spike wheels (unweighted) with starred foams.

Soon to come: M3K's, Memory Maker foams, axial wheels, Castle BEC, aluminum axle C's, straight axle rear, RCP copper alloy gears

[Natedog]

CamelRC, I like it!"thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"

[2Crawlers]

What bug body was that?

[5150bronco]

where did you get the axle truss?

[Natedog]

What bug body was that?

Looks like an E-Savage Baja body.

where did you get the axle truss?

Looks like he made it....similar to the ones the userid Mriswith made....nice. 8)

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83659 (In WK section....I think I'll call it Elvis, build thread).

[camel_rc]

What bug body was that?
That would be the E-savage baja TT

where did you get the axle truss?
I made them, much like the rest of the truck. I work for Good 'nuff Racing. :lol: For the record, I first made the truss out of 1/16" aluminum as a proof of concept before making them in 1/8" and decided to ditch the BTA steering for clearance issues.

[asfasasu3]

Nice rig. With the bent lower links, does your drive shaft hit before the links do?

[5150bronco]

That would be the E-savage baja TT


I made them, much like the rest of the truck. I work for Good 'nuff Racing. :lol: For the record, I first made the truss out of 1/16" aluminum as a proof of concept before making them in 1/8" and decided to ditch the BTA steering for clearance issues.
cool stuff...good job by the way...

can you post another pic? Would you make some for someone else?

thanks"thumbsup"

[camel_rc]

Thanks guys.

Nice rig. With the bent lower links, does your drive shaft hit before the links do?

Not really as the axle C's are clocked for max clearance without funky caster angles.

cool stuff...good job by the way...

can you post another pic? Would you make some for someone else?

thanks"thumbsup"

Hopefully I can get this design on a water jet and start selling them. Until then, scroll saw is just a little too time consuming to produce more of these.

[camel_rc]

A little update. Got my M3K's, memory maker foams, axial beadlocks, castle BEC, straight axles, straight axle blocks, aluminum C hubs, and reprogrammed the mamba max with the software/firmware update.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0652.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0653.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0654.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0657.jpg

While I was working on it, I rigged up a high-steer system. Instead of having the drag link below the servo horn and steering links, I spaced it on the knuckles so that it would be above the horn and link. It has the clearance of behind the axle steering with the throw of it being in front of it:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0734.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/Wheely%20king/IMG_0731.jpg


More stuff to get to a water jet...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/triple-d-racing/DED%20Engineering/IMG_0763.jpg
Rock rings! Fresh from the shop, 1/8" brushed aluminum, countersunk for caphead screws, and some holes for style.

Next thing will be RCP copper alloys as soon as they get them back in stock. The stock ones finally took a dump with the grippier tires.