Free WK servo mount templates [Archive] - RCCrawler.com Bulletin Board

Rex4223

03-19-2007, 08:18 PM

Heres the one I made. It's similar to the one Jake built but the servo isn't angled. With the stock rims/tires it was rubbing at full lock but it clears the Moabs and narrowed stock rims. I'm still waiting on my Axials to arrive too so I'm hoping it'll clear them. I've got a better template made up but I'm still waiting for the material to build it. I like Ryans too but my battery placement interferes with the servo being dead center like that. I can't wait to see what the vendors come up with for this truck!! Hopefully we can see a chassis kit coming soon as well as the servo mounts!!

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9718/picture078ew8.jpg

Harley0706

03-20-2007, 03:29 PM

*EDIT* - Check the Page 7 for the most current thread, it can be downloaded from JIA's personal website now. Also read the thread to see what input and feedback was given, the mount transformed alot throughout the process. I have seen them, or custom versions derived from them on a lot of the builds on here. Thanks again for all the interest guys! And an even bigger thanks to NickRummy for doing the initial modeling of the axles before I had ever seen a WK in person!!!!

end product:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/Servo.jpg

link to download:
http://www.projecttwin.com/files/WKtemplates/

Here a bunch of the finished products from later on in the thread:
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/mriccucci/IMG_0656.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7576/img3306uo4.jpg
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/2623/dsc02291dt2.jpg
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/4/10917083260.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/cracker636/CIMG0774.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/4x4dodge1989/100_2321.jpg
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7da05b3127cce8330048f4ce000000016108BZsmrlm4bq
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/4x4dodge1989/100_2343.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~nonstopboost/DSC00451.JPG

Back to the original thread!!!!

Wheely King Servo Mount

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/WKServo.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/WKServo2.jpg

I made this up in Solidworks today at work.
The Wheely King Axles were modeled by NickRummy.
There is a bunch more stuff in the tools and procedures forum.

This is very similar to the one on the King Bling. I think it is a pretty good design, it atleast keeps the servo lower.
The Wheely King Axles were modeled by NickRummy.

This is a fairly simple barcket, most of you can fab this with a hacksaw and a dremel.

Here is a 1:1 template so you can just cut out the template trace it onto your aluminum or whatever and mount it up:

PDF Format
*Removed* Updated link on page 7
There is a limit of 5 downloads per 24 hours on xdrive unless you have your own account. So I can email you the pdf if it does not work for you. Or you can try the next day.

This is designed to have your shock mounts rotated, as you can see in the pic. There may be a little bit of trimming to part that the screw threads into on the shock mount (less then an 1/8th inch I believe).
If anyone does use it be sure to let me know if there is any clearance issues and I will Update it.

Hope it helps atleast one person.

This is not to be used for anyone to profit from!!!! Think of it as shareware not freeware (I think that is the right analogy).

Josh Thiede

P.S.
I did the stress modeling on it, and with a towerpro (chicken butt) it really should not deflect much at all if you use the aluminum plate that you get at the LHS in the little plastic bag. I don't have the bag around right now so I can't recall the gauge. I am sure someone else can specify it.

Rex4223

03-20-2007, 06:16 PM

Wow thanks for the template!! Have you tried this design out yourself? It's pretty similar to the one I made and I was wondering if you had any clearance issues with the tires? I'm going to give your template a try. Hopefully tomorrow and I'll be sure to get back to you about it.

Harley0706

03-20-2007, 08:01 PM

I do not own a WK, but I trust these models, Nicks models are usually spot on. I have never really found a contridiction.

I have a set of masher 2ks on hpi split 5 spokes, or geos on narrowed pede wheels, or moabs that I can put whatever.

If someone wants to see them I can post a pic.

Josh

JasonInAugusta

03-20-2007, 09:12 PM

Harley,

One thing missing (or overlooked) on that servo mount is the fact that the center line of the knuckles and the front side of the axle housing aren't parallel to one another.

Anyone that uses that template should plan on putting a bend in the mount to accommodate the difference between the knuckles and axle housing.

Harley0706

03-20-2007, 09:22 PM

Hey thanks JIA.

I will plan on fixing that tomorrow morning and reposting it. I will show the bend lines and give side views so that there is no guessing. That bend should actually help any flex in the piece too.

I have no idea if anyone will even use this. But maybe it will help someone.

I never did put a drag link in the model to test that. I shouldn't have done it half assed, my bad. I will make sure to post the pics.

Josh

JasonInAugusta

03-20-2007, 09:29 PM

Remember, you don't have to match the angle of the aluminum and the knuckles, but a happy medium should suffice. Folks will no doubt run various caster angles...due in part to pinion angles.

Also be sure to keep tabs on the rear portion of the servo case in relation to the axle housing and link mounts...might need to raise the servo a hair.

If you redesign the mount with those two things factored in I think it'll come in handy to a good number of folks.

JIA's Dad

03-21-2007, 12:14 AM

Just a thought. Since you really don't need those mounting bars on the front of the axle clamp, cut them off getting them out of the way. Then widen the lower part of that mount to reach the screw that holds the C housing on the end of axle. Now you have 3 screws holding the mount. You could do the same on the other side if you made 2 seperate mounts and that would give you a place to mount batteries on the axle. In other words 2 mounts not connected in the middle, each using 2 screws at axle pumpkin and the screw that holds the C's on the end of the axle. The battery mount would be bent to 90%. Just a thought:roll:

Harley0706

03-21-2007, 07:25 AM

JIA

I don't really know why but last night I was having a hard time understanding your last post, but when I read it this morning it made all the sense in the world. I am going to fix it and see how it works. I was using a generic bluebird servo housing for clearance checks.

JIA Dad
I am pretty sure I get what you mean too, but not 100%.
As I understand:
Cut the original shock mount tabs off
Extend servo plate
screw it to the _________ <thats what I don't know for sure.

Just need a little clarification.
I definetly think it would help with some ridgidity if there was a mount over there.
I don't have my laptop open yet so maybe I will see what you mean when I do.

Josh

clarkrw3

03-21-2007, 07:51 AM

He was talking about mounting it to the screw on the clamp style link mount. I will be trying this soon with your template so will give you some feedback. the only problems I see with where the servo is off to the side is clearance for tires(probably not a problem) and it makes it harder to mount the battery over the servo if it is off to the side like that. One of my ideas was to mount the servo standing up useing a box peice of al, using the four screws on right or left side of the diff that face each other the distance btw the mounting surfaces of those are exactly 1" front to back on the axle...just an idea.

JIA Dad
I am pretty sure I get what you mean too, but not 100%.
As I understand:
Cut the original shock mount tabs off
Extend servo plate
screw it to the _________ <thats what I don't know for sure.

Harley0706

03-21-2007, 08:55 AM

Ok Round 2:

I put a 15* bend in the top portion, this very closely matches the angle of the axle c's
I did have to raise the servo 0.2" but with adding the bend it will still keep the COG down
I added another support that will attach off of the screw that holds the c to the axle case, per JIA DAD.
I did not have to suggest the trimming of the shock/link mount piece except where shown in the pic.
The axle c piece will need a little bit of trimming also, but this should not cause a weak spot, you will also not have to replace the stock screw.

Of course things always work out slightly different in the real world but this may be a decent bracket for alot of people.

I will post a new template as soon as I get some feedback on this. If no other changes I will post it up ASAP.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/WKServoDraft2.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/WKServoDraft2Trim.jpg

Josh Thiede

Harley0706

03-21-2007, 11:36 AM

repost once again.
Here are some more pics for reference. Sorry I was too lazy to crop them and all that jazz.

I may also be working on a BTA plate, like the one camel_rcs did on his rig. NickRummy and I are actually both working on versions.

Now the servo should match the angle - Thanks JIA for the tip.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/WKServoTires3.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/WKServoTires.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/WKServoTires2.jpg

Skeeno

03-21-2007, 11:40 AM

Don't forget the original.

JasonInAugusta

03-21-2007, 02:25 PM

Harley,

Now it's time to box in the servo for strength...look at the pic Skeeno just posted.

Also, the opening for servo is a bit large.

Lots of open room under the servo. Probably forgot to go back and fix that after doing all the other stuff.

Harley0706

03-21-2007, 04:22 PM

I will definetly close in the area under the servo, guess I just overlooked doing that at the time.

About boxing it in, I think it may make it hard to make. I just wonder how much deflection it would reduce, I may have to do a simulation on it to see.

I may do both, I really hope people use these. Not that I have tons and tons of hours in it but still. I can't wait for my truck though!!!!

New pics soon.

Josh Thiede

Harley0706

03-21-2007, 08:18 PM

Here is the newest version. Gap was closed and top boxed.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/WKServoboxed1.jpg

Let me know what you think now. I will get more photos with the servo installed, right now the wife won't get off my fawkin laptop!!!!

Josh Thiede

JIA's Dad

03-21-2007, 08:31 PM

I made 2 seperate mounts. One for the servo (your idea of top solid is good but harder to make). The second mount for battery I should have made using 3rd screw at end of axle (same as servo mount). But I didn't (trial and error). Without the 3rd screw the mount is weak hince the zip ties. I plan to make a new one. Note the battery mount is bent at 90%.http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t186/JIAS_DAD/?action=view&current=1174495468.pbw Click the link Then go to slideshow to see photos

clarkrw3

03-21-2007, 08:42 PM

Looks really good...do you have a 1:1 pdf template of that ??"thumbsup"

Harley0706

03-21-2007, 08:46 PM

JIA DAD

like I said in the PM, I agree it would be harder for guys to make the mount with the boxed top.

I will make sure that both are available for people to get.

As far as templates go I think it will work better if people just e-mail me with their e-mail. Just click on my name on the left and click send e-mail. I respond to e-mails very fast during the day, it is in front of my face most of the day usually. And again PLEASE NO REPRODUCTION OF THIS PART FOR COMMERCIAL USE. Don't turn this into a bad thing.

The battery tray is also a good idea, maybe I will bend something quick and post it up too if anyone wants one.

I am also working on a BTA setup, NickRummy did a model today that looked great, I am using a similar but slightly different approach.

Josh Thiede

JIA's Dad

03-21-2007, 08:53 PM

Looks really good...do you have a 1:1 pdf template of that ??"thumbsup" NO just the one on my rig. But I have some scrap you can have."thumbsup"

JIA's Dad

03-22-2007, 03:17 AM

Looks really good...do you have a 1:1 pdf template of that ??"thumbsup" Clark, The screws at the pumpkin are 7/8" apart and the screw at the axle C is centered between them and measures 2" to the left or right depending on which mount you want to make. I used those measurements to make mine. But I did decide to mount the servo behind the mount using the spacers that came with the servo to make clearance for the main stearing rod linking the wheels and the link that mounts to the servo arm. Other wise they were in line and hit one another. Hope this helps;-)

Harley0706

03-22-2007, 10:38 PM

Since there have been no other suggestions I am calling this mount finished, atleast untill we get a couple built for test fitting. Then we'll see if improvements are needed.

Josh

clarkrw3

03-23-2007, 06:47 AM

I started work on making one of these yesterday but ran out of time and my cut off wheel wasn't working very well...I will revisit it today and hopefully finish it. I will post pics when done

clarkrw3

03-23-2007, 08:47 PM

I made one today...I will post pics. There needs to be more material around the diff screws. and using the template the length to the the knuckle isn't long enough. But otherwise"thumbsup" I think I would still buy a machined one if someone made them.

Harley0706

03-24-2007, 09:47 AM

Those are pretty easy changes, Thanks you very much for the input. Can you take a picture of it for me?

Thanks again.

Josh

clarkrw3

03-24-2007, 10:29 AM

I will...I just haven't had the time to take the pics down load them resize them upload them and post them. O, and you have your pumpkin backwards in your diagrams. To have the servo mount on the side of the axle you show the servo would be mounted under the axle thus it has to be flipped 180 degrees to the other side of the axle....shouldn't make a difference however your drawings of the axle are upside down. look at your drawings and then look at post 20 to see what I am talking about.

Those are pretty easy changes, Thanks you very much for the input. Can you take a picture of it for me?

Thanks again.

Josh

Harley0706

03-24-2007, 11:03 AM

I understand what you mean. Thats what happens when all you look at is a computer screen. Just like how contractors bitch at us engineers. The bends will have to be reversed then too I think then. I will look at it and fix that.
Again, Thanks you very much for your input. You are probably helping more people then you even know.

Josh Thiede

Harley0706

03-24-2007, 11:55 AM

Here is the updated mount.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/Servo.jpg

A BTA one coming soon, based on Camel_RCs design.

Skeeno

03-24-2007, 12:15 PM

Nice work there. When's the prototype coming out?

e-hills4x4

03-24-2007, 12:16 PM

are these gonna be available for purchase soon?

Harley0706

03-24-2007, 01:57 PM

I am not a vendor, nor do I plan on making these. I am providing the template to you guys so you can make your own if you would like. These are for everyones benefit, I just do this crap for fun. There may be some vendors on here that will produce these sometime soon though.

Here is a quick snap of the BTA setup that I am working. Getting very close to. Again the basic setup is based off of Camel_RCs design. I saw a pic of it once and then just went from there. I am going to add a battery mount on the other side too.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/BTA.jpg

Harley0706

03-24-2007, 03:51 PM

Version 1.0

Original Concept by Camel_RCs

Let me know what you guys think. Any comments are appreciated, should be able to have a template ready whenever someone wants it. Clearances are just fine. There is some trimming required on the screws that go around the diff. That is so that you get the most steering possible.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/BTARender.jpg

Harley0706

03-25-2007, 01:03 AM

Response to the servo plates have been pretty rediculous!!!!

Thanks for all the PM's and e-mails.

I really hope we see some pictures up tomorrow.

I just threw the BTA setup it into a model with a k2 chassis to double check clearances and everything still looks good. I am sure there is something that needs to be tweaked but I can't find anything yet.

Josh Thiede

JIA's Dad

03-25-2007, 09:49 AM

Harley, I don't understand why the steering was moved behind the axle. Unless some one thought it would give more clearance than in the front. In a frontal view of the axle the flat portion of the pumpkin is on the left side. The drive shaft is on the back side of the axle.:?:

Harley0706

03-25-2007, 10:05 AM

Yes, it was moved behing the axle for more approach clearance and less hang up opportunities. I am obviously going to keep both versions, standard and behind the axle.

The BTA setup takes more work but it could be a substantial improvement.

I mostly did it though just for fun "thumbsup"

Josh Thiede

JIA's Dad

03-25-2007, 10:09 AM

Thanks clears it up for me. Has it been tried, the clearance between links and steering looks to conflict.

Harley0706

03-25-2007, 10:39 AM

yep heres a pic.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/Clearance.jpg

I just used a k2-3l Chassis because it is my prefered chassis. I am sure it would work with alot of different chassis'. I cycled the suspension and there were no conflicts.

JIA's Dad

03-25-2007, 12:31 PM

Yes, I see that could work fine. You are very good with that program. Thanks for what you are doing and have done in giving options on setup to all. The only possible problem I see with this setup is, that spacer on the steering connection acting as a lever putting extra torque on the steering arm (twist/slack). Unless the C/steering arm is made of aluminum like on other (already sold parts like on TLT/Clods) add on parts.
I think there are enough ideas posted for the average person (he/she) to have options on how they would do their setups. Thanks again for all you have done.

Harley0706

03-25-2007, 01:03 PM

I agree 100% about the torque on the knuckle. Seems like aluminim knuckles are one of the first aftermarket parts to come out for new vehicles though.

Anybody know of a better site to upload the templates on that doesn't have a limit to the number of downloads per day. Or since I bought my star can I upload them on here?

Josh Thiede

dezfan

03-25-2007, 02:13 PM

May have to limit the size if you load them directly to RCC.

Are you using Photobucket?

I haven't noticed a limit there."thumbsup"

Harley0706

03-25-2007, 02:42 PM

I still load my pictures to photobucket, but I want to upload the PDF files. I could probably convert them to a JPEG but I wouldn't want the scale to get messed up. Maybe someone that has a website on here would host them for us.

Harley0706

03-28-2007, 09:20 PM

Looks like it worked!!!!

Here is Gula's...................HIS IS TITANIUM!!!

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65784

NickRummy

03-29-2007, 01:28 PM

Saweeet!

Project Dad

04-04-2007, 11:25 PM

If some one can make this or will make it. i would buy a version for the front and the rear. I don't have the tools or the room to make these.

yep heres a pic.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/Clearance.jpg

I just used a k2-3l Chassis because it is my prefered chassis. I am sure it would work with alot of different chassis'. I cycled the suspension and there were no conflicts.

neverupright

04-05-2007, 12:09 AM

I second that

Harley0706

04-05-2007, 06:57 AM

I am up for having a vendor make and sell them, I would not be holding them back. I am willing to give them my template to make it easier.

Bug your vendors guys.

Josh

Harley0706

04-05-2007, 03:06 PM

Today when I was cuting out the template for the new clocked motor plate I noticed that it printed smaller then 1:1. I checked the paper template against the design and concluded that Adobe PDF Maker actually shinks the print by almost 5%. So I corrected the output size and everything should be good now. This is the reason why the servo mounts were not lining up 100% correctly (more like 96% correctly). With things this small it can really cause a problem. If I would have had an axle here to check it against I could have caught this alot sooner. Anyways, a new template is available for anyone who wants it.

JIA's Dad

04-06-2007, 12:05 AM

I am up for having a vendor make and sell them, I would not be holding them back. I am willing to give them my template to make it easier.

Bug your vendors guys.

Josh

(This is not to be used for anyone to profit from!!!! Think of it as shareware not freeware (I think that is the right analogy).)QUOTE

Josh Thiede

That's really smooth Josh pick our brains to get all the info for the designs, which originally were not to be used by vendors. And now you say Your not going to hold them back, they can sell us a product that we helped design. Do we get to share in the profits?

Harley0706

04-06-2007, 06:38 AM

....I am willing to give them my template to make it easier.

I don't want to sell it. I am never going to make this thing. I just wish I had time for my own stuff.

I will always give this template to people, I just think it would be nice for people to be able to buy it. My template will always be shareware though.

Josh

Mriccucci

04-11-2007, 12:35 PM

Finished the Servo Mount today, no linkage yet hopefully i can do that tonight.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/mriccucci/IMG_0655.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/mriccucci/IMG_0656.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/mriccucci/IMG_0657.jpg

Harley0706

04-11-2007, 09:48 PM

Looks good!

Can you get a shot from directly behind the axle if you get a chance?

Josh

joemomma95

04-11-2007, 10:07 PM

I have a question(probably a simple answer for it, I feel dumb asking)...why is the servo off to the side on all the mounts I've ever seen? Does it have to do with the clearances on the pumpkin?

BTW, nice idea, I'm sure my WK will get this eventually, I was wondering something else also...wouldn't it be beneficial to have the BTA setup? I look at the front setup and it just looks like it's begging to be smashed in a front end collision. I know crawlers aren't that fast but what happens if you land on the front of the truck coming off a rock face or something? Just trying to think ahead..

Harley0706

04-11-2007, 10:24 PM

The servo is off to the side for two reasons:

1: To keep the height down. With how low we like to run our rigs it is nice to not have an axle setup that isn't 4 inchs tall.

2: Keep the Center or Gravity as low as possible.

and on the TBA setup:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/BTARender.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/Clearance.jpg

joemomma95

04-11-2007, 10:32 PM

So the BTA setup would in fact help protect the servo and linkage right? I like the idea but I don't know about having the 4 link arms running in between the steering linkage, I guess it's been done before and you probably know alot more about it than me but I don't know...just trying to learn a few things before I start tearing up the WK and screwing things up too bad...

Mriccucci

04-12-2007, 09:00 AM

Pic from behind

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w247/mriccucci/IMG_0658.jpg

cammok5

04-12-2007, 09:58 PM

i was woundering id the mount needs to have the top boxed in as that would be very hard dor me to do with the lack of tools i have

Harley0706

04-12-2007, 11:20 PM

The boxing in of the top helps add ridgity but you will be just fine without it if you use decent material.

cotharyus

04-14-2007, 10:36 AM

Hey guys, I'm looking to download a copy of the template, I'm going to pm harley like he said in another thread, but I've got a couple of servers I could put the template on where it would be publicly available for download if anyone can get it to me quicker :)

joemomma95

04-15-2007, 12:57 AM

Good template Harley, someone else actually sent it to me and I used it, worked out good...here's the pics...

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7576/img3306uo4.jpg

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7576/img3306uo4.jpg

Thanks again!!!!

Harley0706

04-15-2007, 10:34 AM

Looks good!

Nice to see everyones time isn't wasted, including mine.

I gotta say it is cool to see so many people using it. Hope to see even more!

*edit*
Whats up with your link mount on the servo side?

joemomma95

04-15-2007, 10:54 AM

*edit*
Whats up with your link mount on the servo side?

Not sure what you mean?

I did have a problem with things binding up when turning to the right, but I wanted to get everything put back together to make sure things were gonna fit/work right. I'm not sure what to do with this problem, any suggestions?

Also, does anyone that has used this mount have and pics from the rear of the servo? Was looking at things and the shock mount is really close to the servo...I turned my link mounts on the axle because I'm going to make a 4 link but now it looks like the shocks might interefere with the servo, in fact, I had to move the shocks to the backside of the stock upper mount in order for them to clear...

Edit: Duh, now I know what you meant, I don't know what was going on there, I did have to trim it up a little after I took the servo plate off and on a few time and realized it was rubbing...guess I could've trimmed the plate up instead but that dremel on aluminum screaming was starting to drive me crazy..

cotharyus

04-15-2007, 04:29 PM

More pictures of another one of these fine mounting brackets based on Josh's template:
http://cotharyus.net/news.php?item.8.3

Kranberry

04-15-2007, 08:53 PM

thanks harley for the clocked motor and the servo mount templates:!: 8-)
i will leav ya guys with some pics when there finished"thumbsup"
whats the minimum thickness of metal to use?

JIA's Dad

04-16-2007, 09:41 AM

More pictures of another one of these fine mounting brackets based on Josh's template:
http://cotharyus.net/news.php?item.8.3

If your going to make the tab for the third screw, why not use it. I don't understand?

cotharyus

04-16-2007, 11:07 AM

If your going to make the tab for the third screw, why not use it. I don't understand?

To make a long story short, the only drill bit I had that was the correct size to make the hole in question broke while I was making the holes for the servo to mount in, which is part of the reason I'm only using three of those four holes - it started to deflect so much on the last hole that it's out of place. I'm going to remake this mount at some point, probably in aluminum, but that's better than it was stock - now if I could just find guts for the front axle!

4x4dodge

04-16-2007, 08:07 PM

Thanks for the servo and motor mount template "thumbsup" Once I get all my parts that servo mount template will really come in handy. looks like everyone who has used your template likes it.

Harley0706

04-16-2007, 09:21 PM

Well I finally got my WK in the mail today. Thanks to Kevin from TCS.

I will get to making a mount when I get a new servo. Probably a tower pro.

I don't have the stuff to make it 4wd so I am not sure when I will stretch it.

cotharyus

04-17-2007, 04:01 AM

I don't have the stuff to make it 4wd so I am not sure when I will stretch it.

ASAP. Seriously, stretching mine made a huge difference in the truck's ability to crawl reasonably, even in 2wd. Although, I must admit, it crawls much better down hill atm than up hill.

todd1803

04-17-2007, 09:05 AM

Harley0706 - Thank you for sending the templates, they look great!

Harley0706

04-17-2007, 10:47 AM

Just scored two complete WK axles for $95 so looks like I will stretch it out this week and get the servo template cut out. I hope whatever fool drew this thing up did a good job :D.

clarkrw3

04-17-2007, 11:17 AM

Sweet can' wait to see it!!"thumbsup""thumbsup"

Just scored two complete WK axles for $95 so looks like I will stretch it out this week and get the servo template cut out. I hope whatever fool drew this thing up did a good job :D.

JIA's Dad

04-17-2007, 12:48 PM

More pictures of another one of these fine mounting brackets based on Josh's template:
http://cotharyus.net/news.php?item.8.3
I think it's funny everyone makes the tab for the outer screw but never uses it:-P

joemomma95

04-17-2007, 01:15 PM

To make a long story short, the only drill bit I had that was the correct size to make the hole in question broke while I was making the holes for the servo to mount in, which is part of the reason I'm only using three of those four holes - it started to deflect so much on the last hole that it's out of place. I'm going to remake this mount at some point, probably in aluminum, but that's better than it was stock - now if I could just find guts for the front axle!

HAHAHA, your avatar is coming true JIA's dad...you already pointed this out to the same guy a few posts back:lol: :lol: ...

JIA's Dad

04-17-2007, 01:32 PM

was hoping to see it fixed:-P

Cslax06

04-17-2007, 03:21 PM

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/9321/dsc02292yk0.jpg

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/2623/dsc02291dt2.jpg

Heres a modified version of the template Harley seny me.

Harley0706

04-17-2007, 05:54 PM

Dang what material is that you are using?

It looks like steel, maybe it is just plastic and I am blind though.

Cslax06

04-17-2007, 06:01 PM

1/8th inch steel. Stuff it TOUGH! But then again...the projects name is project over-kill!

Im working on the clocked motor-plate as we speak. Along with a home-fabbed chassis. Thanks a ton for the templates.

Oh, Harlyey...would you happen to have a SW2 template? Ha, just messing...or am I?

cotharyus

04-17-2007, 06:20 PM

was hoping to see it fixed:-P

Heh. I gotta get another set of drill bits first. Which means a trip to somewhere....lowes....which...hurts. I can never get out of lowes for under $100, and this time I'm jonesing for a small band saw too. Too much cutting with a reciprocating saw and a dremel tool makes me bleed. Usually out of my eyes. But when I get a new set of drill bits (seriously, you'd think with the remains of 3 sets laying around here I'd have another 1/8" bit!) I'll fix it. Because it's bugging me. I wouldn't even have taken those pictures, except I wanted to see how well it worked, and figured, since it was on there....

Actually, there's this place in my gully that the truck used to flip down when you sidehill on it, but when I ran it with the new servo mount, it didn't. It was one of those places you could sit there and hope it wouldn't go over, and you could see it getting light on the top side, and you'd cross your fingers and keep on going, and it would just slowly topple. Now you can just ease across it, and it seems pretty stable.

JIA's Dad

04-17-2007, 08:48 PM

1/8" aluminim works fine. If you use all steel maybe to heavy.

Cotharyus, Just enjoy givin you chit cause I can see your trying really hard. Keep up the good work. "thumbsup"

Harley0706

04-18-2007, 06:45 AM

Not only heavy but damn that stuff is hard to work with. I suppose you will be fine when using it and keeping it that low but I wouldn't want to use steel in very many other places.

Josh

Cslax06

04-18-2007, 06:26 PM

Actually my band saw cut through it easily. Yeah I suppose it is heavy...but on the other hand...well yeah I suppose its just heavy:roll:

cracker636

04-18-2007, 10:49 PM

i got hold of the servo print and took it to work and drew it up on a laser and heres what i have so far not done yet. i would like to thank everyone that had to do with the print all the credit goes to you
thanks justin
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/cracker636/CIMG0773.jpg

Project Dad

04-19-2007, 12:57 AM

Nice, I'll take 2

Offroader5

04-19-2007, 09:25 AM

Harley0706

04-19-2007, 09:26 AM

That looks really good! How think is that material? I have one going to the waterjet today, along with a BTA version and a clocked motor plate.

We will see how they come out.

cracker636

04-19-2007, 11:10 AM

thanks, it's 11 gauge (1/8 ) thick

Harley0706

04-19-2007, 11:24 AM

Are you going to add the bends or are you going to leave it strait?

cracker636

04-19-2007, 03:35 PM

im going to bend it after i put the holes in it

revoracer99

04-19-2007, 05:23 PM

can i get a link for a template for one

Cslax06

04-19-2007, 05:33 PM

PM Harley mate. He'll Email you one.

Kranberry

04-20-2007, 03:04 PM

made both sevo& clocked plates/ mounts
have to redo the sevo mount:-( due to my crappy work
pics
sevo
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/4/10917083260.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5270114)
both
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/4/10917083247.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5270115)
and also due to it being the first time using a dremal i wasnt sure of the power they had and it slipped out of my and and fell right on my servo wires:-( so now i get the plesure of soldering em back on
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/4/10917083219.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5270116)
man am i glad i printed 2 of each:)

Harley0706

04-20-2007, 03:16 PM

made both sevo& clocked plates/ mounts
have to redo the sevo mount:-( due to my crappy work
.......man am i glad i printed 2 of each:)

Well.................you tried I guess.

ummmm

try again......

Did your dog get ahold of the template before you started cutting?

Kranberry

04-20-2007, 03:22 PM

Did your dog get ahold of the template before you started cutting?
no
i am just crappy at using a dremal and i sanded way way to much around the bends and curves...
at least i tried.... and failed some-what

ill make a new one soon and set it the setting to low so it isn't as quick
and i didnt glue the template so it kept moving

clarkrw3

04-20-2007, 05:28 PM

no
i am just crappy at using a dremal and i sanded way way to much around the bends and curves...
at least i tried.... and failed some-what

ill make a new one soon and set it the setting to low so it isn't as quick
and i didnt glue the template so it kept moving
Get the corded pen style adaptor for the dremal. It is much easier to hold and cut with than the whole motor.

Harley0706

04-20-2007, 08:54 PM

I don't think you need to glue it, just use a sharpie and trace it. Or you can tape it on and use a spray can to mark it. I like using the spray can so you can see exactly what you need to get rid of.

You'll do better the second time. It always gets better.

Kranberry

04-20-2007, 10:26 PM

Get the corded pen style adaptor for the dremal. It is much easier to hold and cut with than the whole motor.
i dont have the pen adapter yet and prolly wont get one for a while
I don't think you need to glue it, just use a sharpie and trace it. Or you can tape it on and use a spray can to mark it. I like using the spray can so you can see exactly what you need to get rid of.

You'll do better the second time. It always gets better.
if i glue it it will stay on it better. my first one was tape and i had dremaled off all the tape i will take my time on this one sand of only whats nessasery

screaminsavage

04-20-2007, 11:23 PM

"thumbsup" Sweet design! I'm pretty new to crawling and its nice to see the different ideas that everyone has, speaking of which, I went a little different route then you guys, i hope the pics explain what I did, try to keep in mind that the plate was made with a dremel, 2 lb sledge, and a block of wood. but it seems pretty sturdy and works decently enough.

cracker636

04-21-2007, 12:28 PM

my final product did a little mods to it8)
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/cracker636/CIMG0774.jpg

Harley0706

04-21-2007, 12:34 PM

DAAAMMNN! THat looks great man, looks like you hit up the polishing wheel too. Cutting that 4th hole off will have probably have very little effect on it, but removing the mount on the opposite side add some flex. Although you did make yours out of some thick chit.

Great job, you make it look easy.

Josh

cracker636

04-21-2007, 12:41 PM

thanks, yeah the polishing wheel grabed it out of my hand and threw it across the shop so it has some little dings on it:-( but no biggie and i got 6 more if it dont work

4x4dodge

04-21-2007, 07:07 PM

I have a couple pieces of aluminum, one 1/8" piece and a 3/64". What would be the best to use for the servo mount? I plan on cutting it out using a dremel with a cutoff wheel. Any other ideas to cut it out that doesn't involve a machine shop?

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/4x4dodge1989/100_2315.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/4x4dodge1989/100_2311.jpg

cracker636

04-21-2007, 07:44 PM

i went with 1/8 any thiner than that i think is kinda pushing it

4x4dodge

04-21-2007, 08:07 PM

Thanks, i'll go with the 1/8" Hope the dremel can handle it...

cracker636

04-21-2007, 08:12 PM

it will, if i didn't work where i do i would have to use one, but i still use one:shock:

4x4dodge

04-22-2007, 02:49 PM

Ok, Here we go, just finished it a couple minutes age, it took about 2 hours, but was worth it. It seems like it turned out ok. That servo mount template is great! "thumbsup"

Here are the pics, I'm just doing a mock up till i get the screws i need and also the steering linkage.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/4x4dodge1989/100_2317.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/4x4dodge1989/100_2320.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/4x4dodge1989/100_2321.jpg

cracker636

04-22-2007, 03:14 PM

that looks really good, good job"thumbsup"

Harley0706

04-22-2007, 06:51 PM

Looks like you did a fantastic job. Thanks for the complements on the template. I am actually happy with how many people have asked for it, makes it feel like I didn't waste my time. Mine didn't end up getting cut the other day, but I was told maybe monday. I'm not complaining becuase they are free.

clarkrw3

04-22-2007, 09:28 PM

I cut another one and yes the new template works great"thumbsup""thumbsup" I will post pics soon. Also found a great place for the battery mount."thumbsup"

Kranberry

05-01-2007, 09:25 PM

well the new one is made(while ago)
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showpost.php?p=681692&postcount=29i will snap some new pics soon

Harley0706

05-01-2007, 09:35 PM

I cut another one and yes the new template works great"thumbsup""thumbsup" I will post pics soon. Also found a great place for the battery mount."thumbsup"

Yeah, sorry to anyone who used the first template. I just didn't have an axle to test it with first. I hated to do that (not really hate but disliked). But I believe that this is a damn good design for the cost.

Clark, thanks for starting this thread too. It has actually helped me with quite a few things. Thanks again to everyone for the interest and the input for this servo mount.

Now everyone that used it please send me $10 ahahahah total joke. Some of you guys really made some great looking pieces. I have also seen a couple modified versions of it as well which looked great.

^^^^^Sounds like a friggin Grammy speach

Peace out

Josh

Harley0706

05-01-2007, 09:37 PM

Sticky worthy?

4x4dodge

05-01-2007, 09:41 PM

I think it should be. It's a great thread and a great template.

clarkrw3

05-01-2007, 09:47 PM

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7da05b3127cce8330048f4ce000000016108BZsmrlm4bq
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7da05b3127cce83300482cddd00000016108BZsmrlm4bq

Pictures as promised.
You can also see the battery mount on the right for a 8 cell 2/3a pack.

Harley0706

05-01-2007, 09:56 PM

How did you mount the plate to the pumpkin.

clarkrw3

05-01-2007, 10:23 PM

How did you mount the plate to the pumpkin.
I mounted it to the tab that use to be used for the steering link then drilled another hole in that tab toward the back and then to the knuckle screw...if that makes sense. It is the tab off of the upper link mount...it seems very stable.

Harley0706

05-01-2007, 10:42 PM

Makes plenty of sense. Good Idea.

4x4dodge

05-04-2007, 09:18 PM

Well I finally got everything fully assembled and it works great. Couldn't have done it without that template! "thumbsup"

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/4x4dodge1989/100_2343.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/4x4dodge1989/100_2344.jpg

Harley0706

05-04-2007, 11:47 PM

^^^BEEEEFY!!

Looks good man. Glad it worked out for ya.

Harley0706

05-07-2007, 11:19 AM

The BTA version now has an updated template available.

I do not have my axles here at the office so somone will need to cut it out and check to make sure all the holes line up properly.

Again, DO NOT PM ME, my box fills up so fast I can't stand it.

Send me an e-mail at jdthiede@transystems.com

Harley0706

05-07-2007, 11:21 AM

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/BTARender.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/Clearance.jpg

Harley0706

05-07-2007, 11:23 AM

AHHHHH NO PM's ABOUT THIS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Read two posts previous! Send me an e-mail!

Josh

nonstopboost

05-08-2007, 09:14 PM

Hey Harley, i just wanted to say thanks for the pdf!!! I didnt follow the pattern so much other than around the pumpkin...I went with a bent method then mounted the servo with servo mounts...there is so much strength and even more clearance from hitting the stock chassis!!!

thanx tho!!
http://home.comcast.net/~nonstopboost/DSC00451.JPG

Harley0706

05-08-2007, 09:56 PM

Looks good. Just like everything else in this niche of our hobby, everything is always able to be customized "thumbsup"

Thanks for the props

Josh

JasonInAugusta

05-10-2007, 08:15 AM

Harley, don't know why I didn't think about this sooner, email me the .pdf files and I'll host them.

JasonInAugusta

05-10-2007, 08:27 AM

Here they are for anyone that wants them:

Notice that the file "WK Plans" is three pages. "thumbsup"

http://www.projecttwin.com/files/WKtemplates/

Harley0706

05-10-2007, 08:35 AM

Thanks JIA this should help clean out my mailbox now.

Thanks for all the intrest people!

I know other people have offered to host them before, but I am to the point now where it is hard to keep up with everyone.

Also, ALL of the templates are in that file: Servo mount, BTA servo mount, Clocked Motor plate.

clarkrw3

05-10-2007, 09:31 PM

Wow....my first sticky. Well actually it's your sticky Harley0706 with no help from me, but whatever. By the way your mount is working GREAT!!:twisted:

mwrighttt

05-15-2007, 08:42 AM

Offroader5

05-16-2007, 04:14 PM

Just made me a pair of these last night and have some clearance issues. Did anyone else have clearance problems at full turn with the "passenger" side knuckle arm coming in contact with the "third leg" of the mount where it screws to the axle C? Mine hits this third leg way before the steering reaches full throw. I will try and get some pics up tonight when I get home just in case I'm not explaining it well enough.

Harley0706

05-17-2007, 11:29 AM

Thanks harley for the template.
It worked great and saved me tons of time.
I would post a pic but I am at work and have very restricted access to the internet. somehow I can get this sight though. thank god!

just wanted to say thanks.

Hey thanks a bunch! I appreciate the thought.

Just made me a pair of these last night and have some clearance issues. Did anyone else have clearance problems at full turn with the "passenger" side knuckle arm coming in contact with the "third leg" of the mount where it screws to the axle C? Mine hits this third leg way before the steering reaches full throw. I will try and get some pics up tonight when I get home just in case I'm not explaining it well enough.

Post up a pic. I have a water jet cut version coming to me right now. We are running the same wheels so it should be similar. Otherwise.............get the dremel out!

jason3114

05-18-2007, 06:54 AM

Thanks a bunch for the kick a$$ templates! Im doing the BTA right now and making final adjustments. I am using 1/4" lexan instead of Aluminum. (friend had it, was free) so I will see how it holds out. Great templates, thanks again! "thumbsup" 8)

Harley0706

05-18-2007, 06:59 AM

Make sure to check the template with the axle before you start cutting too much. The BTA one really hasn't been used yet.

Good luck and post some pics when you get it done.

Offroader5

05-18-2007, 08:56 AM

Still didn't get any pics, but I ended up just cutting the third leg off and it's steering lock to lock now. I made the mount out of 1/8" 6061 AL so I am pretty sure it'll hold up well without that additional mount leg. I get pics up tonight (if I remember :lol:)

i believe the biggest reason why it was a clearance issue is because I have the tie rod mounted over the knuckle which made the whole rod end assembly on that passenger side a bit tall. I will end up having a drag link that is backwards also...it will go from the servo on the passenger side down to the drivers side knuckle.

clarkrw3

05-20-2007, 09:38 AM

Is it my understanding that TCS will be offering the servo mount prebend and lazer cut?

clarkrw3

05-20-2007, 01:34 PM

"thumbsup"

Shoei1

05-21-2007, 01:15 AM

I just made a servo mount to mount on the axel let me know what you think.
http://http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa144/shoei1/servomount.jpg

SeanD

05-22-2007, 10:38 AM

In the PDF templates there are two different ones for the Front of the Axle (FOTA) mount - one with the servo totally surrounded by mount and the other with only the bottom and two sides.

Any opinions on which may be better? Obviously the latter has less cutting. I will be cutting mine from 1/8 aluminum plate.

Thanks,

Sean

Harley0706

05-22-2007, 10:42 AM

Use the version that is completely boxed. In the other one needs to be taken down, the scale is off. I didn't see that it was posted. You can always just cut the top off of the other one if you want cut less. It still works very well.

SeanD

05-22-2007, 11:24 AM

Thanks for the extremely prompt response - which is good because I picked up the aluminum today and will start this project tonight. Yes, I noticed that when I did a side by side comparison that one template is a lot bigger than the other!!!

Cheers,

Sean

Offroader5

05-22-2007, 12:57 PM

I posted these in my build thread, but since this thread is all about these mounts, and I did use Harley's template...I'll post them up here. I cut the third leg off due to some clearance issues with having the tie rod over-the-knuckle...but the material is thick enough, that it's solid without it. I used 1/8" 6061.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/th_WKservomount01.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/WKservomount01.jpg?t=1179541687) http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/th_WKservomount02.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/WKservomount02.jpg?t=1179541727) http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/th_WKservomount03.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/WKservomount03.jpg?t=1179541765)

Harley0706

05-22-2007, 01:27 PM

That is some great looking fab work.

You are completely right, you don't need the third leg when you use material that rigid. The third leg is very nice when using thinner stuff. with the third leg and adding the bend, thinner material can do a great job and save fab time for those of us that only have a dremel.

Thanks again for the acknowledgement too :D

Offroader5

05-22-2007, 03:06 PM

I tried to give it an engine turned look with the scotchbrite wheel in the dremel, but it didn't come out quite right :lol:

IronRC

05-22-2007, 04:08 PM

When is the crawler store going to start selling the mounts?

SeanD

05-22-2007, 09:36 PM

I am going to have to plead ignorance on this but here goes. I just completed the rough work on my servo axle mount. Right now my WK is bone stock and the first thing I noticed is that right behind the new servo mount is a shock/shock mount -there is no room for the servo. I will be stretching my WB soon enough but in order to use the axle servo mount, do you have to move the shocks. I looked on this site for good side-on views of the axle mounted servo that may shwo shock placement but had no luck. Can you use the axle mounted servo with the stock chassis and suspension?

In the meantime, making the servo mount out of 1/8 aluminum went without a hitch - thanks to Harley0706's template. Kudos!!!

Sean

Offroader5

05-22-2007, 09:48 PM

No, I don't believe you can keep the shock in it's stock vertical position. I believe if you leave the shock/link bracket in the stock location the servo mount will clear WITHOUT the shock mounted in it. On my pic above, you can see how I (and many other people also) clocked the shock/link mounts backwards 1/4 turn. This puts the mount ears for the shock and link on the backside of the axle tube and frees up the top of the axle tube. I did it for the plain fact that it was a better location to line up the lower links and the shocks where I wanted them...but also does leave the top of the axle tube clear to be able to use this servo mount.

here's a nice side shot showing what I mean:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/th_WKsuspensionside.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/WKsuspensionside.jpg?t=1179893012)

Harley0706

05-22-2007, 09:58 PM

Here is an early rendering. Notice that the servo is on the opposite side as it is now.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/WKServoDraft2.jpg

Harley0706

05-22-2007, 09:59 PM

You can see in that pic how you need to rotate the mount. It doesn't fit perfectly but close enough.

Harley0706

05-22-2007, 09:59 PM

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/Renderings/WKServoDraft2Trim.jpg

Kranberry

05-26-2007, 05:09 PM

well i made some all new servo mounts out of alum instead if plastick like the others, front and rear. for the 4ws
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/14518285549.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5538890)

rquarte

05-31-2007, 07:29 PM

where are you getting the CAD files for the Wk axles?

Kranberry

05-31-2007, 07:30 PM

select wk plans
http://www.projecttwin.com/files/WKtemplates/

rquarte

05-31-2007, 07:39 PM

Yea i mean the files i can open in solidworks to try a design.

SeanD

05-31-2007, 09:44 PM

Harley0706

05-31-2007, 10:19 PM

Clean looking mount, 1/8th inch shoud really get the job done.

Just a setup note that I will add.
When I installed mine on my WK Tuber, I didn't care for how far the linkage stuck out past the drag link. So I took the servo off and mounted it behind the plate, and then I spun the servo horn almost 180* to get it even more out of the way. I set my steering arm up to go to the side furthest from the servo. The servo has plenty of power to deal with the steeper angle and I am much happier with the approach angle.

I will have to get pics another time, I am out of town now, be back in a week.

Josh

Kranberry

05-31-2007, 10:26 PM

Yea i mean the files i can open in solidworks to try a design.
ohh you would have to talk to harley about that

Kranberry

05-31-2007, 10:30 PM

One more testament to back up these great templates."thumbsup" "thumbsup" I fabbed mine last week from 1/8 aluminum but only mounted it tonight. Still have to hook up steering links but . . . anyways here's a picture or two:

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p14/seand_photos/IMG_6802.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p14/seand_photos/IMG_6806.jpg
you might have some problems with you steering setup, since you are using the servo saver on it, it would be wise to move your push rod that goes from nuckle to nuckle under the arms. alowing more space for your servo to arm link"thumbsup"

SeanD

06-01-2007, 05:42 AM

Oh I see what you mean - I just realized that in this picture it looks lke the servo arm is actually hooked onto the link. In reality its not. I just stuck the linkage in there to stop the wheels from flopping around for the photo shoot and to see how the whole thinks looks. I'll do the two link standard as most others do.

Thanks for the concern,

Sean

rquarte

06-01-2007, 09:12 PM

ohh you would have to talk to harley about that

Oh ok, not sure who that is but alright;-)

kurt

06-02-2007, 07:56 PM

anyone have the cnc instructions for one of these?

if so please e-mail them to.
kurt.brinker@gmail.com

tsaun987

06-06-2007, 01:33 PM

can someone post a link to the printable version of the front mount? thanks for your time.

Kranberry

06-06-2007, 03:33 PM

anyone have the cnc instructions for one of these?

if so please e-mail them to.
kurt.brinker@gmail.com

can someone post a link to the printable version of the front mount? thanks for your time.
select wk plans"thumbsup"
http://www.projecttwin.com/files/WKtemplates/

tsaun987

06-06-2007, 03:55 PM

thanks bro, i greatly appreciate it

kurt

06-06-2007, 03:56 PM

thats not the actual cnc instructions tho.....

JasonInAugusta

06-06-2007, 04:18 PM

Kurt, seeing you ask over and over for CNC instructions for these is getting old.

You've tried to get'm here, tried to get'm in Syco's thread in the Vendor's Market...

...getting old

tsaun987

06-06-2007, 04:31 PM

hey JIA i printed that version out that kurt says isnt the cnc version. will that work? thanks man!

JasonInAugusta

06-06-2007, 04:36 PM

It'll work.

What Kurt means by "CNC instructions" is that he wants the code to put into a CNC mill.

tsaun987

06-06-2007, 04:38 PM

Ahaaa!!! Thanks for everyones help, i would be absolutely lost without the information everyone so graciously shares "thumbsup"

Harley0706

06-08-2007, 10:56 PM

I have gotten a few e-mails asking for the CNC instructions as well.

I don't recall who they were from but here is my response:
"Up to this point I have never handed out the actual drawing file, and I really don't plan to. I don't want to sound rude, I am not a rude person, but I would rather not distribute the drawing file."

I hope the template is still helpful to many. I have also gotten a few e-mails from a small handfull of people asking me if I am going to remove the file now that vendors are producing other options. I don't think that the vendors will see this a horribly bad thing. I hope that this will stay available for a long time and I have no intentions of it becoming unavailable.

Josh

clarkrw3

06-08-2007, 11:38 PM

Your great Josh!!! thanks for all of your hard work on this and other projects "thumbsup"

kurt

06-10-2007, 07:09 AM

Kurt, seeing you ask over and over for CNC instructions for these is getting old.

You've tried to get'm here, tried to get'm in Syco's thread in the Vendor's Market...

...getting old

Just trying to help out. If i had them, i can have alot cut out and mailed for the cost of shipping only. I'm not looking to make a profit. I just know the frustration when you need something and its not available.

Harley0706

06-16-2007, 10:35 AM

By reading his post what I understand him to say is that he is making two versions: One out of Al and one out of CF. There would be no point in making a multi piece mount. I think his mounts are available now in the vendors section now, but he may still be in the testing phase.

nigels_world

06-21-2007, 08:21 PM

is the clocked tranny mount availible in the correct scale?

Harley0706

06-21-2007, 09:00 PM

There is nothing wrong with the scale of the motor mount. I have made one personally and it worked just fine.

nigels_world

06-21-2007, 09:11 PM

ok ill go ahead and use it then. i was just wondering because it says scale: 1:0.9 down at the bottom.

Harley0706

06-21-2007, 09:48 PM

Just cut it out and double check it against the trans. If it is the wrong size then unclick the "scale to fit box" that is on the print window.

nigels_world

06-22-2007, 05:19 PM

Just cut it out and double check it against the trans. If it is the wrong size then unclick the "scale to fit box" that is on the print window.

i tried it and it didnt fit. btw your pdf says 1:0.9 im not scaling it when i print it out.

Harley0706

06-22-2007, 08:14 PM

I know it has that scale. If you are not scaling it, then scale it and it will fit (just click the print to fit). The reason the scale is 1:.94 is because the default for most printers is print to fit. So it fits an 8.5" x 11" into a margin'ed area.

I know many have used it with fine results.

nigels_world

06-23-2007, 08:30 AM

just_now

06-24-2007, 12:21 PM

Thanks for the information..

wolfattak

06-24-2007, 05:16 PM

nigels_world

06-24-2007, 05:29 PM

ksully

06-24-2007, 08:11 PM

will the front mount work for the rear axle also? cuase i want to put four wheel steer on mine.

wolfattak

06-24-2007, 08:24 PM

yes it should work. the front and rear axles are exactly the same

kurt

06-25-2007, 11:45 AM

Harley0706

06-25-2007, 11:57 AM

buy one

^^ Very constructive thing to put in a thread about making your own, we should all make such intelligent and usefull posts.

You don't need to buy one. Many of these have been done with just hand tools. If you are scared to try it then buy one (not saying anyone who buys one is scared, but he obviously wants to make his own). I have never even made one myself. I had one cut for me but never the less it is a nice thing to have available for the many people that have used it.

ksully

06-25-2007, 02:22 PM

ok thanks for letting me know about the rear mount.

Offroader5

06-25-2007, 02:31 PM

I don't have acsess to metal working equipment. All I have is a saw and a cordless drill. would it be possible to make a servo plate with these tools...also, what thickness in metal should I use, kepping in mind it will be cut by hand?

I built mine using only a jigsaw and a dremel...so yes, it's greatly possible and you can get great results from it:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/th_WKservomount01.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/WKservomount01.jpg?t=1179541687) http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/th_WKservomount02.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/WKservomount02.jpg?t=1179541727) http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/th_WKservomount03.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/offroader5/Wheely%20King%20RC%20Crawler/WKservomount03.jpg?t=1179541765)

kurt

06-25-2007, 02:55 PM

^^ Very constructive thing to put in a thread about making your own, we should all make such intelligent and usefull posts.

You don't need to buy one. Many of these have been done with just hand tools. If you are scared to try it then buy one (not saying anyone who buys one is scared, but he obviously wants to make his own). I have never even made one myself. I had one cut for me but never the less it is a nice thing to have available for the many people that have used it.

some peoples time is obviously more valuable than others. I started to make one and decided that 20 shipped for one was a far better deal than me spending my time making one.

Harley0706

06-25-2007, 03:11 PM

Despite the fact that this is a thread COMPLETELY about people making their own.........

Making one even with a hand tools probably won't take longer then a couple hours if using aluminum (quite a bit longer if using steel). I would rather invest the two hours and have it immediately rather then wait (atleast) two days. That is all without taking into the account the fact that you can customize it to your needs immediately with no extra time investment and it also doesn't even take into account how much pride some people take in doing it themselves.

Anyway you look at it was a completely pointless/worthless post.

kurt

06-25-2007, 03:43 PM

couple hours

once again. some people's time is more valuable than others.

wolfattak

06-25-2007, 04:09 PM

well I found some metal snips in my garage went over to the hardware store to get some metal and made one today in about 20 min. It's not a very clean job but it worked;-)

Offroader5

06-25-2007, 05:55 PM

IMO personally, I would rather spend a bit of time and make parts that I CAN make just so that I can say that I did the work. It's so much more rewarding to say that you made something yourself....and then even more so when you could say you also designed it.

Many people could care less about what things look like as long as they do the job. In my case form doesn't just follow function....they are conjoined twins. I am an anal retentive SOB though, so that may be a skewed perspective. :lol:

wolfattak

06-25-2007, 09:07 PM

well im a high school student and i have no acsess to metal working tools outside of school. The mount I made is just temporary untill I get back in school and can make a good one....(it's summer break right now)

Roadbiker3

06-25-2007, 10:51 PM

Offroader5

06-26-2007, 08:05 AM

what is the reason that we have yet to see a servo mounted directly on top of the pumpkin? Is it to lower the center of gravity trying to place the servo as close to the axle as possible? The only problem i am having is mounting my battery pack. I am running an SW3 chassis, im gonna start trying different mounting options just wondering if there are any other reasons to avoid mounting dead center on the axle.

Well, if you're using the stock upper wishbone mount, then it does put the servo up pretty high to clear that. Plus if you centered it, it gives you less room to put your batt pack. With the servo on one side of the axle, it leaves the other side open for the pack. I suppose you could mount the servo in the center and then use a split pack putting batt's on both axle ends.

clarkrw3

06-26-2007, 09:28 AM

this is how I have mine mounted...it works great with a 2/3 pack shown is a 8 cell pack from holmes hobbies, it works great and its a great place to mount a battery pack.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7db25b3127cce83ec9ec950a000000016108BZsmrlm4bq
what is the reason that we have yet to see a servo mounted directly on top of the pumpkin? Is it to lower the center of gravity trying to place the servo as close to the axle as possible? The only problem i am having is mounting my battery pack. I am running an SW3 chassis, im gonna start trying different mounting options just wondering if there are any other reasons to avoid mounting dead center on the axle.

Roadbiker3

06-26-2007, 09:32 AM

Can you find that pack on their web-site??? That looks like the ticket, nice work!

clarkrw3

06-26-2007, 09:38 AM

He builds them custom so whatever you want...this is one of the 1500 cells in a brick pack let him know how much tail you want on the plug and sit back and watch the mail "thumbsup" I made the mount out of AL and mounted to the steering bracket and the hub screw then placed velcro on it and the battery and secured it with the ziptie. VERY STABLE.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7da05b3127cce83300482cddd00000016108BZsmrlm4bq
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7da05b3127cce8330048f4ce000000016108BZsmrlm4bq

Turbo_Diesel

07-09-2007, 12:36 PM

dang harley0706 mad props on the solidworks designing.... i just got my solidworks certification a little while ago

yarddog35

07-11-2007, 07:42 PM

Thanks for the template did mine over the weekend works great. Only had a Dremel to use so its kinda rough but I only need it to work not look pretty. Thanks again for the work you did to help us guys who like to make some of our own parts.

Harley0706

07-11-2007, 07:47 PM

Hey no problem at all man. Thanks for using it "thumbsup"

I don't even have a picture of mine on here, I don't think so anyway:D I cheated though, mine was done on a lazer cutter.

Best pic I have, truck wasn't even close to done.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/WK%20Tuber/JT012184.jpg

You can see that I actually run my drag link to the opposite side knuckle. I don't know if it is best or not but I like how smooth and even it is this way.

Really hard to see on this picture.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/WK%20Tuber/JT013008.jpg

Offroader5

07-11-2007, 08:05 PM

You can see that I actually run my drag link to the opposite side knuckle. I don't know if it is best or not but I like how smooth and even it is this way.

Really hard to see on this picture.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/jtbusa/WK%20Tuber/JT013008.jpg

I am doing the same thing. It just looked too odd and unnatural to have the short lil drag link going to the same side as the servo. :lol:

Harley0706

07-11-2007, 08:10 PM

I am doing the same thing. It just looked too odd and unnatural to have the short lil drag link going to the same side as the servo. :lol:

Honestly that was a big part of it for me as well. I had to add the bend and put the servo behind the bracket too, it helped my approach angle immensly.

SeanD should post up his new one too, it is a nice touch for people with stick packs.

mwrighttt

07-11-2007, 10:13 PM

it's not a great pic but this is how I mounted my stick pack on my axle using harleys template
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x159/mwrighttt/?action=view&current=firstcrawl002.jpg

SeanD

07-12-2007, 05:54 AM

Here's a servo/battery mount I made using harley0706's servo template as the basis for the servo mount and the inspiration of mwrightt's parallel axle mount for the battery. It is constructed of 1/8 aluminum. This was all done with a drill press, a hacksaw, a cutoff wheel on my dremel and a file - so its easily made by the masses. I printed the jpg file and it was to scale - on my printer anyway. This is the prototype so I can't be held responsible if there are mistakes/flaws in the design or design drawing.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p14/seand_photos/IMG_6985.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p14/seand_photos/IMG_6986.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p14/seand_photos/IMG_6988.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p14/seand_photos/IMG_6990.jpg

This is why I call it The Hammerhead!!!

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p14/seand_photos/hammerhead_mount.jpg

clarkrw3

07-12-2007, 10:11 AM

Very nice!!

YAKIMA RC RACER

07-17-2007, 05:22 PM

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8116/chadsrcpics001mk3.jpg
By yakimarcracer (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/yakimarcracer) at 2007-07-16 http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2571/chadsrcpics003fn4.jpg
By yakimarcracer (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/yakimarcracer) at 2007-07-16 it would be a nice setup but the steering radius just kills you there was hardly any steering i use the same link from the front on the rear axle too http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/48/chadsrcpics014ta3.jpg
By yakimarcracer (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/yakimarcracer) at 2007-07-17 now i just use the servo mount that goes over the pumpkin on the axle

jonass

07-24-2007, 01:32 PM

how can i get solidworks??

Harley0706

07-24-2007, 01:37 PM

$15,000 will get you the good copy. :D

or if you are a student $99 for a student version, it is limited but still an amazing deal for what you get.

Doodoob

07-25-2007, 12:49 AM

Just wanted to say thank you for this thread. I just got my WK and did a quick conversion on it following HPI's version for my son and I to play with while I was on leave for my mid tour from Korea. Now I cant wait to get back and mod it some more and build a second one or another crawler.

curdogexpress

07-25-2007, 09:12 AM

YOU GUYS GOT IT GOING ON!
"thumbsup"great work.

solomon7

08-02-2007, 01:50 PM

I can't seem to get the boxed plate to print to scale. Is there something I'm missin' ? I'm not too familiar with the printer so do I need to scal the print? How? I know, this isn't a computer forum but I got the day off and wanna finish this to go wheelin' tomorrow and test out the new chassis I made.

Harley0706

08-02-2007, 01:55 PM

If it says 1: 0.964 or something close to that, then try clicking to fit to page option on your printer. I need to redo the plans so they are all uniform. I understand it can be confusing sometimes. It is also hard though since everyones printer is not the same.

solomon7

08-02-2007, 02:38 PM

Is the unboxed mount not to scale?It seems like the pumpkin holes and shape on it are right but the spot for the servo in the boxed one is longer?

Harley0706

08-02-2007, 02:43 PM

Don't use the unboxed. It needs to be removed. I was unaware it was in that PDF, it is an early version. If you want it unboxed then just cut the top off the boxed one :D

solomon7

08-02-2007, 03:06 PM

Thanks Harley! I think I got it figured out. Just gotta set it to 100% non the page set up and fit it to the printer margins on print page. Now to get scissors and the ol' Dremel. steady hands steady hands steady hands...lol!

coolkidjf7

08-03-2007, 07:20 AM

doesn't the mount make the servo hit the schocks? i dowloaded the template printed it out and mocked it up and it seems like it wouldn't fit?

Harley0706

08-03-2007, 03:57 PM

There are TONS of pictures of how to set it up. make sure your clamps are rotated.

NickRummy

08-31-2007, 05:47 AM

I guess I'll post up a few pictures of my BTA setup on my WK. I started out with the template Harley had but ended up changing it around. Mostly the part above the pumpkin and the servo mount.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/yellowfox/Wheely%20King%2008-16-07/DSC_0064sm.jpg

outcastrc

09-11-2007, 04:49 PM

Heres my version modified from the template, still putting it all together...

http://outcastrc.com/gallery2/d/6419-1/2007-09-11_011.JPG

http://outcastrc.com/gallery2/d/6415-1/2007-09-11_002.JPG

Harley0706

09-14-2007, 11:52 AM

Looks like there are some problems with JIA site right now. If anyone needs the WK plans feel free to send me a PM or an E-mail.

2JSC

09-17-2007, 12:07 AM

Do the solid works files work with AutoCAD? If so I'd like a model of the WK axle if you can thanks!

Doodoob

09-17-2007, 09:03 AM

I just tried to use the BTA mount to make up some new suspension stays and they were off. Too small even though the scale says 1:1. Dont know but I got some made anyway. Just wanted to let you know. I have used the clocked motor plate with no problems. Its scale says 1:.0955 and I printed it to fit the page and it was spot on. The boxed mount appears to be the same.

Harley0706

09-17-2007, 11:42 AM

Most of the time people have the "scale to fit" turned on in the options, that is when the .095 scale works. People were getting confused so I did the last one in 1:1 and was just saying to turn off scale to fit. It is a PITA not having everything standardized, but ya get what ya pay for :-P:-P

JK JK JK JK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doodoob

09-17-2007, 07:24 PM

Yeah it is great for what I paid! I am gonna play around with the printer tonight and figure it out.

BobRickey

10-15-2007, 05:18 AM

Harley, ygpm
Bob

BobRickey

10-15-2007, 07:41 PM

Thanks Harley, The plans were waiting on me when I got home this evening.

Bob

LST022752

11-01-2007, 03:14 PM

Thanks for the template.

UNGLEWD

11-06-2007, 07:48 PM

Here's my contribution
http://www.jowettskustom.com/freebies/downloads/wk_servo_mount.pdf
Hope it helps,
Kevin

heyok

11-09-2007, 09:57 AM

Here's my contribution
http://www.jowettskustom.com/freebies/downloads/wk_servo_mount.pdf
Hope it helps,
Kevin

Has anyone tried to open this pdf? I'm using Foxit Reader and it tells me the file is somehow corrupt. I'm just asking because it might open with something like Acrobat reader which I would rather not install if I can avoid it.

Thanks,
Al

Nerve

11-09-2007, 10:10 AM

Has anyone tried to open this pdf? I'm using Foxit Reader and it tells me the file is somehow corrupt. I'm just asking because it might open with something like Acrobat reader which I would rather not install if I can avoid it.

Thanks,
Al

Works fine in Adobe for me. Why did u not want to install Adobe?

heyok

11-09-2007, 10:20 AM

Works fine in Adobe for me. Why did u not want to install Adobe?

I really like the Foxit Reader because it is just a little over 2MB in size. How large is the Adobe Reader now? Don't answer that, I just checked. It is almost 31MB. Maybe there is good reason for it to be that large, but I have found that the Adobe product takes a really long time to launch and doesn't seem to have any benefit over the Foxit Reader. I see that there is a newer version of Foxit so I am going to install it now. If that doesn't allow me to open UNGLEWD's pdf, maybe that will be the reason to switch back to Adobe.

heyok

11-09-2007, 10:22 AM

Ah... Foxit is working now. I guess there were a couple of bug fixes in the newest release.
Thanks UNGLEWD for releasing your template!

Al

CrawlerGraphics

12-18-2007, 10:08 PM

Any chance someone could e-mail me the template for the servo mount. None of the links I found in the thread seem to work.

Thanks

Harley0706

12-18-2007, 10:11 PM

Shoot me an e-mail mike and I will get it to you in the morning. The JIA that was hosting it let registration expire.

CrawlerGraphics

12-18-2007, 10:13 PM

Shoot me an e-mail mike and I will get it to you in the morning. The JIA that was hosting it let registration expire.

I sent you an e-mail.

Thanks

dezrik

12-25-2007, 06:43 PM

Here's my contribution
http://www.jowettskustom.com/freebies/downloads/wk_servo_mount.pdf
Hope it helps,
Kevin
THIS is the Template ive been looking FOR!!! it rocks

CrawlerGraphics

12-25-2007, 07:18 PM

THIS is the Template ive been looking FOR!!! it rocks

What scale do you print it at to get the right size?

dezrik

12-27-2007, 01:28 PM

i did 1:1 and it lined up perfect

mxpro137

12-27-2007, 03:30 PM

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/001 005

heyok

12-27-2007, 03:50 PM

Kevin's template works really well. I've made a couple of them from 1/8 aluminum and they are very sturdy. I wasn't actually able to bend the "shelf" thing but instead just cut that part off.

CrawlerGraphics

12-27-2007, 03:55 PM

i did 1:1 and it lined up perfect

Thanks, I'll give it a try...

Toph

12-27-2007, 05:08 PM

Here's the way I am mounting my servo. I took a larger piece of angle aluminum and cut and grinded it to clear all the mounting points. It was actually alot easier then I thought. Hope this helps. Pics,

http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/34593/2352454850097471699S425x425Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2352454850097471699CXtEbP)

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/38034/2595491620097471699S425x425Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2595491620097471699IrFFfn)

http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/34911/2441590130097471699S425x425Q85.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2441590130097471699bLeWHO)

ThanX,
Krystopher