WK Diffs and Hot Glue locking...

[DaveFL]

Its bunk:)

Not even an hour on the rocks and the glue disapated and wore out inside the diffs. Anyone else had this problem? Started hearing a clicking noise after 15 minutes of play time, thought maybe the gears where slipping, by the end of the hour I had lost front and rear lockers.

Pulled them apart last night and the glue just couldnt take it, comepletly worn on the gears.

Looks like Im going to order the locking diffs from one of the vendors, seeing I just can't make myself JB Weld em.

Dave

[MGS511]

I just used a puddy that i sutffed in there that got hard and simple to pull apart.

[4x4dodge]

I have run my WK alot with my diffs locked with hot glue. Havn't had a problem with the hot glue yet.

[DaveFL]

Im wondering if the difference is weight, although I do not have the body completed yet, Im building a semi scale crawler set with a MFM Chassis and a Half Droop set up. I have weighted the tires, and clocked the tranny 45 degrees.

What ever it comes down too, the end result was the hot glue litteraly wore out I had soft shavings of hot glue through out the diff.

Maybe the putty works better since it has a more flexable nature allowing the gears to spin if there is too much forces without degrading the puddy. I know JB weld holds in a pretty firm solid bond.

Regardless, no worries I just ordered the Diff lockers from The Crawler Store.

[chip cross]

go to auto zone buy some quick steel and lock the diff. with that its a lot cleaner than jb weld its a two part apoxy and takes about 15 min to get hard as steal I have even fixed holes in gas tanks with this stuff and once made a cap for a gear box with this stuff so throw the hot glue gun away

[4link4eva]

The strength of hot glue seems to depend on how you do it. I locked my clod axles with hot glue, packed as much as I could in there, and they're still holding. I shredded a pair of Junfac wheel adapters before the glue gave out, and my old frame was bloody heavy.

[joemomma95]

I used hot glue the first time also, it fell apart. I redid the front with JB quik, that seems to have broken down too, I heard later not to use the quik stuff, I guess there's a reason why. Sometimes it still holds locked but it definately isn'yt fully locked. I have yet to tear down the rear to redo the hot glue, but when I do I think I'll probably use the regular JB.

[chip cross]

your answer is quick steel everything thing I have built I used it no problem yet

[MikeSSS]

I used Poster Putty and probably put too much grease in with it. I've got limited slip but sometimes too much slip. It needs fresh putty with less grease.

I'll order the diff lockers eventually.

Bet not all hot glue's are equal for this purpose.

Even with limited slip the WK crawls far better than I dreamed of.

Edit: today I had lots of slip between the wheels on opposite sides, especially when backing up. There was a lot of clicking during backing up when the diff slipped. Guess the side and spider gears are going out. Will get some quick steel and fix em up.

[MikeSSS]

The strength of hot glue seems to depend on how you do it. I locked my clod axles with hot glue, packed as much as I could in there, and they're still holding. I shredded a pair of Junfac wheel adapters before the glue gave out, and my old frame was bloody heavy.


Love that Landy.

Went to the Texas Jeep Corps meeting tonight.....aggghhhh....I want em all.

Tell us about the Landy's suspension.

[1RCbasher2NV]

I had putty in my gears and yesterday i stripped out both the front and rear gear in the cup.
I didn't want to JB them because I couldn't bring myself to do it either on on new truck and I didn't want to break any axles from it.
But today I JB kwiked both of them.YES the kwik,(wish I read this ealier today)But luckily I use JB KWIK for my custom HWs so I know what its like and jammed some lead pellets in with the JB and made sure they were wedged in the gears.I also did it because the gears were already stripped and were gonna need help "thumbsup"
i also have QUICK STEEL for the customs and wish I had thoought to use it.It is definately harder after dried..

GOOD TIP chip cross "thumbsup"

[1RCbasher2NV]

I used Poster Putty and probably put too much grease in with it. I've got limited slip but sometimes too much slip. It needs fresh putty with less grease.

I'll order the diff lockers eventually.

Bet not all hot glue's are equal for this purpose.

Even with limited slip the WK crawls far better than I dreamed of.

you have a nasty surprise waiting for you when yopu open those cases up..Its gonna be like warm bubble gum on the gears..I still have to clean all my tool I used.It was freakin NASTY

[Gula]

Mine worked well untill I put it through it's paces on larger rocks with a few binds, then the Hot glue gave up and I had a LSD. I used quicksteel and it works awesome. Same happened to my pede tranny it too gave up. It all depends on wha tires you use too I use All T's on mine and I had to Quicksteel it. On my wife's i used the high temp hot glue and it's still holding but I'm using swamp dawgs on that which are significantly smaller

[4link4eva]

Love that Landy.

Went to the Texas Jeep Corps meeting tonight.....aggghhhh....I want em all.

Tell us about the Landy's suspension.

Thanks, the suspension setup isn't far from standard on there. Just parabolic leaf springs, and better shocks. :)

[cartronicshn]

I have used hot glue on 2 of my clods and lockers on 2 other, 2 tlt with hot glue and 1 with epoxy, the only one that has fallen apart is the tlt with the epoxy, it all comes down to how well you clean up the parts before glueing it together, on my wheely king i haven't done anything yet, as i'am waiting on my lockers to come in sometime later today or tomorrow, i will post pics of it"thumbsup" .

[wolfattak]

What I use sounds pretty stupid but it works really realy well. I use an art eraser (for those who don't know an art eraser is an eraser that is stretchy and "morphable"). It's more dense then clay so gives a realy good lock but will still slip if over stressed. the only problem is if you drive VERY hard, to the point of slipping, alot it can wear out:-(. but its realy good otherwise'



WARNING: O.K. I HATE that suff now, I just wore through it the other day when I was Bashing at the dikes by my house. When I went to change it I found the rubber had melted and was stuck like gum to everything. In evey crack and gap in the intire diff was covered in greasy sticky goop. I spent over an hour on each diff front and back just cleaning, Not including taking apart and putting togeather the axle housing. I was so fed up, that I just went on to the crawler store and ordered a diff locker. I'm sorry for leaving this post and if anyone took my advice and used this stuff I strongly encourage you to remove it before your next time out with it, Sorry.:-(

[TonkaYota]

:roll: Use super glue... Or Plumbers Epoxy...

[SeanD]

I just paid 14.00 and dropped in a set of diff locks from RCguy. No fuss, no muss, no slipping and totally reversible back to open diffs if ever required. "thumbsup" In the big scheme of things, i.e. the cost of building/maintaining a crawler, 14.00 ain't that much to spend on a set of diff locks.

Sean

[ridgewalker]

I use Macks silicone ear plugs.It's a silicone putty for blocking sound in your ears.It never dries out and you don't need to mix grease with it since it's silicone better than silly/poster putty imo.It also works good to plug/waterproof things like where the wires come out of the esc or the rec.plugs.

[SkwerlB8]

Just locking up my WK4x diffs with JB..if it don't hold, i'll look into something else. have to use whats available to me and hope for the best!

[CrawlerNOklahom]

I used Gorilla Glue to lock my diffs, Hav'nt had a chance to try it yet, but I have used it at work to make tools with, and after numerous hits with a 3lb hammer, it has yet to break.

[sickfab]

I used Gorilla Glue to lock my diffs, Hav'nt had a chance to try it yet, but I have used it at work to make tools with, and after numerous hits with a 3lb hammer, it has yet to break.

That stuff is tough... But it expands while it cures, so that may cause problems for some people, if you overdo it and put too much. 8)

[chip cross]

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z229/chip_069/100_1356.jpg
need i say more do it right the 1st time

[kurt]

i used the epoxy syringe that mixes the 2 part epoxy for you when i locked my pede. i prefer epoxy since it has a super low viscosity and can get into every little crack and crevice

[McCrash]

I used Gorilla Glue. First time I didn't add water and it gave up the ghost quickly. After adding the water and some more glue, its like a rock. Haven't bashed the thing yet, but in the small amount of driving I have done they haven't broken free, yet.

Mike

[grapegoat]

i have been running hot glue locked diffs in my e-maxx axles that our mounted

on my 1:6th scale rig with jumbo tires and the only problem i had was i had to

take my diff case apart and tighten the screws that hold my ring gear on. but

that was my fault. i forgot to lock-tite them. other than that, they are as

strong as they have to be. when i locked them i tested them by grabbing

both tires on the axle with each hand and twisted them opposite ways as

hard as i could. broke an axle before the diff gave out. the way i did it was put alittle bit of hot glue in, then put bottom gear in, then alittle more hot glue, then the spider gears, then alittle more, then the top gear. i did that to make sure the glue got all the way around all of the gears. locked tighter than a ticks a$$ "thumbsup"

[SACCO]

I used a couple old planetary gears out of an HPI rs4 diff. I ground one edge flat so they would fit, stuck em in with the 2 stock wk gears, and they are locked.