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So I built a motorcycle (a real one) and didnt relaly like it since so many people suck at driving cars. That becomes REALLY evident when youre on a bike. So, I am gonna sell it and want to build a new 1:1 jeep. However, I have a lot of different ideas and wanted to try and get some of them out without a drastic cost problem I dont like the way it works. So, I am going to build a 1:6 scale willys based on the rough idea of what I want it to look like in 1:1 scale. Here are the humble beginnings...
Buy a 1:6 scale willys with a silly "custom paintjob" off ebay
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0050.jpg
Cut it in half
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0051.jpg
Cut off all hte extra junk you dont need
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0052.jpg
Get rid of the horrible paintjob
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0055.jpg
Then cut up some nylint tires to work and look like you want them to on maxx wheels
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0056.jpg
Will have a square stock frame rail, scale cage, TXT axles sinec I cant afford the D60 look alikes, lexan skins, R2 with disco, crawlmaster, blah blah blah
Should be a good time. Updates as I get them. Most will happen after I am able to sell my old crawler on ebay so I have cash to spend on teh new project. Everything up til now was cheap.
BrockGrimes
09-21-2007, 06:32 PM
I like it gonna watch this one! "thumbsup"
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/1/192210589.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4562416)
badhoopty
09-21-2007, 10:21 PM
"thumbsup"
http://pics.montypics.com/badhoopty/2003-11-18/1069172417_jeep_rear34.jpg
i call dibs iffya sell it. ;-)
So I got a great start on the frame, and I will post pics soon, but I am realizing just how heavy this thing is going to be. I am planning to run leaves in the back, and am curious what you guys recommend. I was initially planning on running Diaz jugg leaves, but I dont know if they can take the weight? SO now I am considering hilift leaves, or maybe even teh leaves off one of those huge dumper rigs that use TXT axles as well? Mammoth or something like that?
What do yo guys know about the spring rates of these leaves? I still want it to flex obviously, but need it to be able to handle the weight.
Thoughts? Ideas? Thanks guys....
AIPOHAKU
09-30-2007, 12:36 AM
Sounds like you got a sick start here Josh!!!...Im sure itll be CRAZY!!!!..Check out my tuber build in the scale 2.2 thread..Its one of yours!!!..and not the Toy truggy;-)
young_version
09-30-2007, 12:50 AM
So I got a great start on the frame, and I will post pics soon, but I am realizing just how heavy this thing is going to be. I am planning to run leaves in the back, and am curious what you guys recommend. I was initially planning on running Diaz jugg leaves, but I dont know if they can take the weight? SO now I am considering hilift leaves, or maybe even teh leaves off one of those huge dumper rigs that use TXT axles as well? Mammoth or something like that?
What do yo guys know about the spring rates of these leaves? I still want it to flex obviously, but need it to be able to handle the weight.
Thoughts? Ideas? Thanks guys....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/brokeneg/fj%20tuber/DSCF0775.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/brokeneg/fj%20tuber/DSCF0776.jpg
Use high lift lowers so you can adjust the stiffness by adding or removing leafs. And use a jugg springsingle and cut in half for the upper.
BTW you'll need to make a trac bar.But for some reason i doubt you shuold have any problem with that. MAD FLEX!
Here is tonight's update: I got the frame made this last weekend, so tonight I put it together and mounted hte front clip of the willys.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0083.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0084.jpg
From there I got the cab section done
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0085.jpg
And then worked out the rear cab section since it is going to be a 4 seater.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0086.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0087.jpg
It's coming along nicely, but holy craap is it huge! I am still debating on whether or not the R2 can handle it!
j
rockbound
10-01-2007, 06:48 PM
sweet! i will deffinatly be watching this build! looks great so far.
Bronco
10-01-2007, 06:51 PM
:shock:looking great!!! im watchin
BrockGrimes
10-01-2007, 06:54 PM
It's kinda heavy. In the pic I posted above, mine is mounted on a NN chassis with stock maxx shocks and springs 1 on each corner.
I'd just get a handfull of leaves and mix and match.
Looks great so far. "thumbsup" Brazing or welding?
Thanks guys. All welded, and I am not doing leaves in the back anymore on my real project, so this is getting coilovers on all 4 corners as well.
j
young_version
10-01-2007, 07:14 PM
Thanks guys. All welded, and I am not doing leaves in the back anymore on my real project, so this is getting coilovers on all 4 corners as well.
j
what ever you do to it it'll be badass. ive seen a lot of you work and must say, "thumbsup"
Joenz
10-01-2007, 08:14 PM
Whoah, looks like this is going to be a beast. I'll be watching this one! "thumbsup"
JohnRobHolmes
10-01-2007, 09:29 PM
Looks like a great start on the tubing! Do you still have a engine compartment?
I don't think an r2 will stand up to this. I suggest a twin force tranny coupled to another tranny for a transfer case.
SpyderMonkee
10-01-2007, 10:17 PM
Nnnniiiiiiiiiccccceeee!!!!
Makes me want to go wrench on my '51 flatfender instead of the Cobra.
I'll stay tuned.
Looks like a great start on the tubing! Do you still have a engine compartment?
I don't think an r2 will stand up to this. I suggest a twin force tranny coupled to another tranny for a transfer case.
Thanks John. I still have an engine compartment, what for?
Thats a bummer to hear. I really want the easy and small disco setup. What other tranny do you recommend?
Etype R
10-02-2007, 11:22 AM
Josh, I can show you my dig setup some time, along with the V2 tranny. My dig setup is all in the rear axle, with a 645 servo that disengages one of the gears, and locks it up. I still need to put it all back together though, and its not as scale as having it off the tranny. But it works well.
JohnRobHolmes
10-02-2007, 11:39 AM
The engine compartment would just be a nice scale touch. If you used an AX-10 tranny coupled to another tranny you could hide the motor up front and still have plenty of room down below the floorboard.
AIPOHAKU
10-02-2007, 12:17 PM
The engine compartment would just be a nice scale touch. If you used an AX-10 tranny coupled to another tranny you could hide the motor up front and still have plenty of room down below the floorboard.
This is a good idea...Josh you should run a transfercase style action on this!!...Why dont you put this in the "Large Scale Projects Section?...I keep forhetting to check this build caues its in General..Looks like its coming along NIcely!!..
This is a good idea...Josh you should run a transfercase style action on this!!...Why dont you put this in the "Large Scale Projects Section?...I keep forhetting to check this build caues its in General..Looks like its coming along NIcely!!..
Mainly cuz I dont know how to move it!
j
mudhunter
10-02-2007, 01:14 PM
Very nice bulid..
If i ever strike gold mark my words i want one of your tubers!
JohnRobHolmes
10-02-2007, 01:16 PM
Mainly cuz I dont know how to move it!
j
Done for you, now in scale section.
Thanks John.
Does anyone know where I can get a 1:6 scale bench seat for the back of this thing?
I'm also taking votes as to which trannies I should use together. I think a stealth would be the best tcase for it, but what should attach the motors to and run to the stealth?
Thanks...
JohnRobHolmes
10-03-2007, 06:29 AM
Get something with a slipper, and maybe even a two speed. You have so much room under that hood that an emaxx tranny might work. You could also use another stealth or a twin force tranny. Hell, even a stampede gearbox would work well.
As for the bench seat, did your model not have one? Why not fab one up from some tube and sheet metal?
1BadJeepBruiser
10-03-2007, 06:31 AM
Thanks John.
Does anyone know where I can get a 1:6 scale bench seat for the back of this thing?
I'm also taking votes as to which trannies I should use together. I think a stealth would be the best tcase for it, but what should attach the motors to and run to the stealth?
Thanks...
Dont quote me on this, but I think I have scene guys run the motor into the gd600 gear reduction unit and from that they run it into a T-case either a nitro pede trans or something similar.
CrawlnSlow
10-03-2007, 08:27 AM
Thats similar to what i ran in my willys. XXT to XXT though. If I wasn't on the most restricted computer on earth at work I'd post the link.
AIPOHAKU
10-04-2007, 12:26 AM
Dont quote me on this, but I think I have scene guys run the motor into the gd600 gear reduction unit and from that they run it into a T-case either a nitro pede trans or something similar.
Ive seen that as well..DTP ran it on his BMV comp rig...
So I would just run the gear reduction alone with the motor? Not into another tranny? That thing doesnt look terribly mount friendly, but Im sure we can figure it out. From there I would mate it to a tranny- I think the stealth looks the best size wise, but will it be strong enough and would it give me good gearing?
Anyone with good math skills able to figure out what ratio that would give me? I am going to be running an outrunner motor more than likely. What pinion should I be running if I use these trannies?
Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it.
j
Joenz
10-04-2007, 12:46 PM
Why not go with a E-Maxx, then you have 2 speeds. You could get some alloy gears + alloy spur from Integy and you'd be pretty much set I reckon.
Or, not sure how hardy the new F350 Tranny is ? Or even a big rig trans would be cool if your up for spending a little more. I haven't use either of those two though, anyone know if they would be up to it ?
young_version
10-05-2007, 03:55 AM
Dont quote me on this, but I think I have scene guys run the motor into the gd600 gear reduction unit and from that they run it into a T-case either a nitro pede trans or something similar.
sheldon used a gd-600 mated to a associated gt2 tranny, i think of all the stealth based trannies, this particular one has the lowest reduction. i believe its above 3:1.
But if I put a low reduction in that tranny, along with a GD600 will that put me too low? I need some math gurus to help me out...
j
JohnRobHolmes
10-05-2007, 06:24 AM
With a GD, gt tranny, and diff reduction you would only get about 25:1 reduction unless you used the spur and pinion reduction on the gt tranny too. I have seen it done before with a carrier bearing and plate where the motor would normally mount up.
I would recommend about 65:1 or more reduction.
toy4crawlin
10-08-2007, 10:26 AM
Forget using trannies
I have had the thought of Just useing a reduction unit like they use on Rc truck pullers or the GD600 and you could double them up
Or you could use One Motor and reduction unit for Front drive shaft/axle
and another for the rear, that way you have a dig set up front and rear like this (http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showpost.php?p=856693&postcount=31)"thumbsup"
I HAVE TO HAVE THOSE RIMS !
What size are they, hex size and where to get them :?::?:
thanks
Great build
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/HULK64/RC%20Willys/DSCN0056.jpg
JohnRobHolmes
10-08-2007, 11:11 AM
That wouldn't be enough reduction. He needs more than 6.6:1 final reduction.
toy4crawlin
10-08-2007, 11:22 AM
That wouldn't be enough reduction. He needs more than 6.6:1 final reduction.
that's why I said he could double them up Dual reduction units
76lcforty
10-12-2007, 08:20 PM
Those tires look sweet cut and turned like that.
JohnRobHolmes
10-14-2007, 05:48 AM
that's why I said he could double them up Dual reduction units
Still not enough reduction imo. He needs to use a full tranny coupled to a transfer case. That will get him 90:1 reduction pretty easy.
microgoat
10-14-2007, 07:32 AM
On a heavy hog like this I'd be suspicious of the fine-pitch gears inside the Stealth or electro-Pede boxes. A Maxx tranny has nice beefy gears, and you can use a Nitro Pede box for a transfer case. There's a bit more reduction in the nitro box anyway, and you'll want that for those tall tires.
GD600-> Maxx-> Nitro Pede should do it.
Just put another layer of epoxy on your CF seat; once it's dry I'll start filling it in. I don't suppose you want the CF painted? :lol:
Micro, the seats are going ot be desert sand, just like my 1:1 seats- so ya- I will paint them though...
Etype R
10-21-2007, 05:07 AM
I got to see this thing in person yesterday when I dropped off the TXT axles for it. And the pictures just do not do the size of this thing justice. Its huge! Looking at the license plates in the background of a few pics helps give you a idea of the size.
Stormin2u
11-04-2007, 02:24 PM
Mike did you take any pictures?
farakai
11-09-2007, 09:20 PM
josh u should have called me i got a willys in the closet with the original rear seat still in it.... call me ... paul
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