new kyosho rock crawler

[STANG KILLA SS]

anybody got any more info?

http://www.pro-s-futaba.co.jp/hsphoto/SANY0048.JPG

http://www.rc-japan.de/BigPics/kyoCrawler_2.jpg

http://www.rc-japan.de/BigPics/kyoCrawler_3.jpg

http://www.rc-japan.de/BigPics/kyoCrawler.jpg

http://www.pro-s-futaba.co.jp/hsphoto/SANY0047.JPG

[davway]

looks good!
wonder if it will hit the market in that form (RTR) or as a kit?

[renoirbud]

Looks a little short to be a Super.

[Mirage]

Looks a bit wide, wont be scaler axles..... nuts!

[Badmuthatrucker]

I think it looks pretty good. Will be interesting to see if they got it right.

[gregrocks90046]

Looks a little short to be a Super.

wb looks a little short, but that is easily fixed.

[john alardin]

That thing looks freaking awesome! Sign me up for two! Is it just a teaser, to gauge interest, or will it be a Japan/non-US model only?

[Rubbaneck]

I noticed in the first pic that this has four servo's :shock:. This will be interesting.....

[STANG KILLA SS]

I noticed in the first pic that this has four servo's :shock:. This will be interesting.....

your right i do see two upside down servos inside the chassis.
anybody else notice the unique driveshafts. id be curious how theyd hold up..

also in the second pic, is the pumkin offset? (note top links)

i LOVE the wheels

[STEEL_CITY_CRAWLER]

WOW!! those axles look BADA$$!!!!!

[gregrocks90046]

i LOVE the wheels

the wheels are axial 40 series.

[KRAWLR4life]

I love seeing production crawlers "thumbsup"
Very cool! I wonder if and when we will see these?
~John

[KRAWLR4life]

the wheels are axial 40 series.

Do you think they will have their own wheels and tires when the final production model comes out?
~John

[JeremyH]

Looks good. I dig the boatsides...

[ElChupacabra]

That thing looks like crap. I hate the link mounts. Everything is weird and offset.

[gregrocks90046]

Do you think they will have their own wheels and tires when the final production model comes out?
~John

i hope so. that means another wheel and tire choice!

[STANG KILLA SS]

the wheels are axial 40 series.

damn they looks so much different in chrome (i have the black version)"thumbsup"

[gregrocks90046]

That thing looks like crap. I hate the link mounts. Everything is weird and offset.

cut them a little slack. this is probably a prototype or early production model. these things need time to tweak them out. at least they are considering making a production rock crawler.

[KRAWLR4life]

That thing looks like crap. I hate the link mounts. Everything is weird and offset.

Nothing we cant modfiy :lol:
Japenese dont know how to build a crawler (No offense my Japenese freinds), but they do supply some awesome parts though!
~John

[STANG KILLA SS]

That thing looks like crap. I hate the link mounts. Everything is weird and offset.

says chewbacca:lol:

[gregrocks90046]

damn they looks so much different in chrome (i have the black version)"thumbsup"

the chrome do look different, even right next to each other.

[gregrocks90046]

Nothing we cant modfiy :lol:
Japenese dont know how to build a crawler (No offense my Japenese freinds), but they do supply some awesome parts though!
~John

they will be catching up to us very fast, john!

[STEEL_CITY_CRAWLER]

also in the second pic, is the pumkin offset? (note top links)

i was noticing that, too....

it'd be nice if they used inferno diffs in the axles again. and maybe offer/include with kit inferno CVD's with a modded lengths to work...8)

[gregrocks90046]

i was noticing that, too....

it'd be nice if they used inferno diffs in the axles again. and maybe offer/include with kit inferno CVD's with a modded lengths to work...8)

i agree, you think they would use what they already have in house. makes sense.

[KRAWLR4life]

they will be catching up to us very fast, john!

Yeah your probubaly right Greg, I have always admired their engineering/manufacturing ability though! I'm sure were gonna be seeing alot of crawler kits coming soon and they can only get better and better!
~John

[JeremyH]

Man, anybody else notice the suck down winchline in the back??

This thing is getting better!

[chevy42083]

I guess that answers the questions about the two servos in the cab. No i hadn't noticed, but you're right.

[STEEL_CITY_CRAWLER]

Man, anybody else notice the suck down winchline in the back??

This thing is getting better!

opps, sorry, i was too busy admiring those beefcake axles!!!!:shock:

i guess one of those other servos are a winch servo for the suck down winchline, and maybe the other is for a dig??

[Jamie-offroader]

opps, sorry, i was too busy admiring those beefcake axles!!!!:shock:

i guess one of those other servos are a winch servo for the suck down winchline, and maybe the other is for a dig??

What exactly does that do then?

[Grizzly4x4]

Cool stuff. Someone's been paying attention. "thumbsup"

[chevy42083]

What exactly does that do then?


It keeps that axle from unloading. Say, on a steep descent, you can sinch up the rear axle. Instead of the rear stretching up and tumbling over the front, it will be held down keeping the center of gravity behind the front wheels.
May have other uses also.

[_BEN_]

i was noticing that, too....

it'd be nice if they used inferno diffs in the axles again. and maybe offer/include with kit inferno CVD's with a modded lengths to work...8)


I looks (to me) like the axles are a modified/re-done set up based on the Twin Force. You can see the joint where one tube slides into the other. If so it will still have the 1/8 scale parts inside.

It does look like the pumpkin is offset. If these axles are as easy to modify as Twin Force axles it will be breeze to narrow/widen them.

I'm excited when is this thing going to hit the U.S. market?

[STEEL_CITY_CRAWLER]

i hope this was meant to be a 2.2 with large tires on it for photos only. who on earth would want to run a shaft driven super. they suck compared to clods.

i personally would prefer a shafty over a clod. and i am sure i am not the only one here that feels that way.

[Thorsteenster]

Cool beans! I like the looks.

[_BEN_]

Found a few more.
http://a1.vox.com/6a00c2252a7859604a00e398b202c10004-pi
http://a0.vox.com/6a00c2252a7859604a00e398b203380005-pi
http://a2.vox.com/6a00c2252a7859604a00e398b202c20004-pi

[Double J]

any one else notice this?
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e269/coy5840/kyoshocrawler.jpg

[binaryterror]

Man that driveshaft idea is BRILLIANT! I hope RC4WD sees this and abandons the expensive punishers for this much simpler and easier to produce idea.

[STEEL_CITY_CRAWLER]

plus, maybe kyosho is setting a trend and marketing an RTR 14 incher....

look, even baconface approves!!!;-)"thumbsup"

[Thorsteenster]

I think RC4WD's theory behind the Punisher is stronger beefier design to handle high rotational forces, not withstand hits from rocks via a skid plate.

[Big Mike]

That thing looks like crap. I hate the link mounts. Everything is weird and offset.

Well, I have to agree about the lower inboard link mounts, they look like they are going to hang up on everything. If they could be swapped to inside the chassis it would be a nice transition that would slide over stuff.

As to looking like crap - hardly. The fabrication looks excellent to me. What looks lacking is the real crawler experience behind the design, but that can be sorted out. It's all about evolution. Go back 2 years on this site (if you can) and see what folks were running.

anybody else notice the suck down winchline in the back??


I was looking at that, and it would explain one of the two servos mounted upside down in the "cab". But it looks like a zip-tie to me? I wonder how it's attached to the servo? Sort of looks like a prototype-type thing at this point. Is there one for the front as well? That would explain the other servo.

Speaking of evolution, here's another heavy-hitter in the RC world looking to market a production crawler. That is good. RC crawling can do nothing but benefit from big companies getting involved...

[Rockpiledriver]

I guess that answers the questions about the two servos in the cab. No i hadn't noticed, but you're right.

It has a 2 speed tranny. ;-)

[Big Mike]

Maybe this is what ElChupacabra means. Now that I've noticed it, it sure seems "wierd and offset" to me as well. I was too busy wondering why that zip-tie fed into the chassis through that slot:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6918/kyocrawler3zk1.jpg

Did somebody not follow the instructions or something?? Who else thinks both the rod ends should be inside those mounts with some different spacers?

Maybe that's how they are dealing with torque-twist?

[TOYUTAH]

Well not if the pumpkin is offset. They have to go to the center of the axle not on top of the diff. That's my guess anyway??

[_BEN_]

What is wrong with having the pumpkin off set? pros/cons?
The Twin Force also had an offset pumpkin.

[JohnRobHolmes]

the upper links are not offset, the pumpkin Is.

[Big Mike]

Well not if the pumpkin is offset. They have to go to the center of the axle not on top of the diff. That's my guess anyway??

I don't know - the pumpkin looks centered in the axle to me. The rod ends sure are'nt!

This rig may have been fabricated specifically to generate interest at this show. It may have never even been powered up and driven. It's still very interesting...

[Robb]

What is wrong with having the pumpkin off set? pros/cons?
The Twin Force also had an offset pumpkin.
Big pro to me, just as with the TF, three different widths can be created very easily.

[Big Mike]

What is wrong with having the pumpkin off set? pros/cons?
The Twin Force also had an offset pumpkin.
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I don't see any problem with offsetting the differential in itself - but the mounts are obviously centered on the differential.

the upper links are not offset, the pumpkin Is.

If it is offset, it has to be to the side the servo is mounted on. Would'nt that make this link placement even worse?? I'm just going by what I see.

We need a straight-on shot of this set up to be sure I guess...

[Usmc8541]

Maybe its not offset at all, maybe the links are like that to fight torque twist?

[binaryterror]

Maybe this is what ElChupacabra means. Now that I've noticed it, it sure seems "wierd and offset" to me as well. I was too busy wondering why that zip-tie fed into the chassis through that slot:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6918/kyocrawler3zk1.jpg

Did somebody not follow the instructions or something?? Who else thinks both the rod ends should be inside those mounts with some different spacers?

Maybe that's how they are dealing with torque-twist?

It's not that wire you can see is secured to the upper link...the black line is as mentioned some sort of winch line or even a limiting strap?

[Big Mike]

Actually now I'm thinking JRH is right - the pumpkin is roughly centered on the drag link in the pic, but the rear wheels are at full lock to the left.

And that would place the upper links in the right position.

This is more than likely not a final production version either.

We need more pictures of this rig. We've got us an optical illusion here...

[smokinubyrc]

I don't see any problem with offsetting the differential in itself - but the mounts are obviously centered on the differential.



If it is offset, it has to be to the side the servo is mounted on. Would'nt that make this link placement even worse?? I'm just going by what I see.

We need a straight-on shot of this set up to be sure I guess...

The diff is offset with the upper link mounts so they moved them over to center them over the axle!

and there is 4 servos in that chassis! there is way to much going on in that thing! sometimes simple is better! :lol:

[CarbonShadow]

Did anyone even read what Rockpiledriver wrote? I'm not sure how a two-speed would work but it sounds like a cool idea.

[crawls2thewalls]

theres only a couple of words in english on the first pic..

two of wich are "hi , lo"...

possibly 2 speed tranny????:shock:

just a thought

[Rockpiledriver]

I realize it is very difficult to understand this project just from a few pictures of a prototype rig from a hobby show. It is only a "prototype."

It is also very difficult for me and others associated with RCP Crawlers to not be able to join in this thread with all the unanswered questions and unclear discussions for which we DO have answers for.

I am awaiting for approval from Kyosho, to disclose details about this project and other projects in the works. We have been involved in it for over 1 1/2 years now and should be able to fill you in shortly.

I can tell you there are greater Kyosho projects in the works.;-) We have already tested some of them."thumbsup"

[2JSC]

Freaking sweet!

From what I see:
Selectable Hi & Low speeds
Front & Rear Steer
Rear Winch for Sinch Down
40 Series Wheels/Tires
New "Full Width" Axles

Used google to translate the page at Kyosho:
R / C ROKKUKURORA a new category under the "ROKKUFOSU" was born. 2 3 （Hi,Lo） Speed 2 3 MODOTORANSUFA (Hi, Lo, RIADORAIBUKATTO), and introduces a number of new mechanisms. I can not wait to announce the details of the fan in the exhibition area is booming.

[STANG KILLA SS]

I realize it is very difficult to understand this project just from a few pictures of a prototype rig from a hobby show. It is only a "prototype."

It is also very difficult for me and others associated with RCP Crawlers to not be able to join in this thread with all the unanswered questions and unclear discussions for which we DO have answers for.

I am awaiting for approval from Kyosho, to disclose details about this project and other projects in the works. We have been involved in it for over 1 1/2 years now and should be able to fill you in shortly.

I can tell you there are greater Kyosho projects in the works.;-) We have already tested some of them."thumbsup"

this is the kinda thing that frustrates me to no end. people know about it but dont/cant share it.
most things have sneak peaks, long before there released. take the Camaro concept for example, pics, specs, even the car on display have been out for 2 years now, and its got another year until its released. yet no one could say a peep or show a spy shot of a toy truck.:-( i just dont see how this benifets anyone.:-(

[Rockpiledriver]

this is the kinda thing that frustrates me to no end. people know about it but dont/cant share it.
most things have sneak peaks, long before there released. take the Camaro concept for example, pics, specs, even the car on display have been out for 2 years now, and its got another year until its released. yet no one could say a peep or show a spy shot of a toy truck.:-( i just dont see how this benifets anyone.:-(

Um what do you think the picture from the show is? This is the sneak peak/spy shot your describing. Why would a company show pics during the development stage. Thats not the way it works. Kyosho displayed their prototype at the Japan hobby show for to you see a sneak peak on what their working on. This isn't the production model. Get a grip. It's just a "toy truck" as you put it.

There's always that one guy who can turn such a positive into a negative.:twisted:

[STANG KILLA SS]

nearly two years later? and to answer your question, GM, RC4wd, i can go on if you like? many of which specs and sneak peaks release as early as the sketching/design phase.

[Rockpiledriver]

Again, there's always that one guy who can turn such a positive into a negative.:twisted:

[STANG KILLA SS]

Again, there's always that one guy who can turn such a positive into a negative.:twisted:
agreed"thumbsup"

[Rockpiledriver]

nearly two years later? and to answer your question, GM, RC4wd, i can go on if you like? many of which specs and sneak peaks release as early as the sketching/design phase.

We show pics of our parts when they are still in the design stages. We are NOT Kyosho and we WILL abide by their wishes. Don't shoot the messenger. :roll:

[STANG KILLA SS]

i may have been miss leading. im not mad at you guys, im frustrated at kyosho. even a simple "hey folks weve got a new rock crawler chassis on the horizon" press release would have been a start. maybe even a sketch/rendering attached with it.

[Rockpiledriver]

i may have been miss leading. im not mad at you guys, im frustrated at kyosho. even a simple "hey folks weve got a new rock crawler chassis on the horizon" press release would have been a start. maybe even a sketch/rendering attached with it.

Honestly, is a double edged sword. There are people like you that see things early and understand it is going to be months, or even longer, before it actually hits the shelves. Then there are the other 90% of people that the minute you post something they are asking "when will it be available, and how much" We have already received e-mails asking us those questions, and this has only been on here since this morning. ;-)

I'll be glad to forward all of those requests to you if you like. :lol:

[STANG KILLA SS]

valid point.
i have been patintly awaiting my '09 camaro for two years already. less than 360 days left now....:twisted:

sure go ahead and forward those requests to my email badger@rcc.com
:lol:

[Rockpiledriver]

i may have been miss leading. im not mad at you guys, im frustrated at kyosho. even a simple "hey folks weve got a new rock crawler chassis on the horizon" press release would have been a start. maybe even a sketch/rendering attached with it.

It may be hard to understand Kyosho's actions. Bringing this crawler to the Japan hobby show is kind of like RCP and rc4wd showing their cad drawings in the design stage. It's Kyosho's way of showing their "hand" sort of speak on what their working on. This rig is just a very rough prototype. It was put together very recently. The production model may very well be much different than what you see here. Seeing this truck at a hobby show, may have mislead you to believe the productioin version is right around the corner. Think of it as a sneak peak of what there working on and to let you know Kyosho is involved in building crawling trucks. That is the message they're trying to disclose by bringing it to the Japan show.

They really are great people to work with and manufacture some of the highest quality products in the market.

[Rockpiledriver]

sure go ahead and forward those requests to my email badger@rcc.com
:lol:

The're on the way. :flipoff:

[KRAWLR4life]

Ahhhhhh, inquiring minds want to know....
Although inquiring minds have no patience :lol:
None the less, it will be a nice truck if its ever produced, John is right about thier (Kyosho) craftmanship, top notch, always have been!
~John

[gregrocks90046]

my 2 cents, if anyone gives a crap-

when i first saw the pics of the kyosho crawler in this post, i knew it was nowhere near a finished, ready for the shelves product.

if you have ever been to the detroit auto show, or henry ford museum, you will see hundreds of concept cars/prototypes that will NEVER see the light of day. does that mean that manufacturers should not show them at a trade show? absolutely not! that's part of what trade shows are for. to show the public that you are working on new ideas and the latest trends in your field. which happens to be rock crawling for kyosho. finished or not, i'm glad they are showing what they are up to.

[STANG KILLA SS]

and i guess you were right, above, some people understand that like we do. some assume it means they can order it now lol.

ironically most of this thread has been about the axles, but my favorite part of the truck is actually the center section/ main chassis. i really like what theyve done there. functional, and very pleasing to the eye. and for rig i assumed aimed at the comp & leasuer crawler crowd. i think it has a bit of scale (moon buggy) look to it.

[KRAWLR4life]

my 2 cents, if anyone gives a crap

I do....
http://www.insidertricks.com/care-bears/images/bears/Tenderheart_bear_large.gif

[PROTOTYPE]

They really are great people to work with and manufacture some of the highest quality products in the market.

:arrow: That is an understatement.

If Kyosho is building something , IT WILL be good. I don't think that company has designed a flop yet. :twisted:

Being in with the race scene you can't deny that they are on top of the food chain. (look at there champion winnings and all there drivers.) :shock:

This will turn out like the high-lift . People will see now say oo wow its cool. Then more info will be "leaked" and some people will say wow that is a lot for what I have built already . Then when it does come out , Everyone associated with the crawling world will be hooked and want to customize there own way. 8)

I don't see this contraption being released until next year the earliest.;-)

[gregrocks90046]

I do....
http://www.insidertricks.com/care-bears/images/bears/Tenderheart_bear_large.gif

you are killing me, john!:lol::lol::lol:

[gregrocks90046]

ironically most of this thread has been about the axles, but my favorite part of the truck is actually the center section/ main chassis. i really like what theyve done there. functional, and very pleasing to the eye. and for rig i assumed aimed at the comp & leasuer crawler crowd. i think it has a bit of scale (moon buggy) look to it.

the whole thing looks interesting to me. it will be a win/win for everyone. either you will buy the kit and mod it to your liking, or buy the kit and pirate the parts, or you will buy the kit, throw a battery in it and have a blast! we could be getting new trans, drive shafts, wheels, tires, axles, to choose from for custom builds.

[KRAWLR4life]

you are killing me, john!:lol::lol::lol:

Thats right, a CARE BEAR, because, well, I care!
~John

[KRAWLR4life]

the whole thing looks interesting to me. it will be a win/win for everyone. either you will buy the kit and mod it to your liking, or buy the kit and pirate the parts, or you will buy the kit, throw a battery in it and have a blast! we could be getting new trans, drive shafts, wheels, tires, axles, to choose from for custom builds.

Oh yeah.... MORE PARTS...
We'll see what they plan on doing... I'm curious to see what becomes of this "Prototype" crawler
~John

[STANG KILLA SS]

the whole thing looks interesting to me. it will be a win/win for everyone. either you will buy the kit and mod it to your liking, or buy the kit and pirate the parts, or you will buy the kit, throw a battery in it and have a blast! we could be getting new trans, drive shafts, wheels, tires, axles, to choose from for custom builds.

amen, im particularly interested in those driveshafts, i know how beat up and notched my old assosiated drive cups got with the metal dog bones beating on them, but the driveshaft scopes so it wouldnt be in the same spot all the time, only time will tell"thumbsup"

[Grizzly4x4]

The "body" does not meet either the body or the tube chassis USRCCA rules. :mrgreen:

[ThinkTank]

The "body" does not meet either the body or the tube chassis USRCCA rules. :mrgreen:

And it's butt ugly.:lol:

What I want to know is why Kyosho ditched the TF chaindrive tranny for a 2 speed..:-(

Edit:

where do I sign up for the preorder?

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

When does it come out? How much will it be? Can I buy one now?:flipoff:

[Grizzly4x4]

When does it come out? How much will it be? Can I buy one now?:flipoff:
X2
PM sent

[Double J]

when can we preorder :lol:

[Robb]

More excited by seeing this than seeing the WK or the AX...................

I will pre-order the first minute I have the opportunity."thumbsup"

[Rockpiledriver]

When does it come out? How much will it be? Can I buy one now?:flipoff:

X2
PM sent

when can we preorder :lol:

You guys did get the correct e-mail addy for this right? Again it is: badger@rccrawler.com "thumbsup"

[Grizzly4x4]

You guys did get the correct e-mail addy for this right? Again it is: badger@rccrawler.com "thumbsup"
oops, sorry. I'll send another."thumbsup"

[jetboat]

The "body" does not meet either the body or the tube chassis USRCCA rules. :mrgreen:


Guess the rules need to be changed then

[Rockpiledriver]

Guess the rules need to be changed then

I wonder how many pages of posts that discussing will take up.:lol:

[RCMFMaxxMan]

two speed isn't that great in a crawler. maybe a rock racer. by the way, yeah it looks like it would be pretty decent out of the box but who cares! what serious driver is going to leave it stock?with all the tranny options and chassis options and customizing at our hands, all that really matters is the axles. the rest, if worthy, is just bonus. i think its cool but honestly i'm not that excited about it. it looks like basically a half baked attempt to re-label the twin force as a crawler. like i said before most people are only going to care about the axles and maybe other cool little gadgets but if its just a different look to the twin axles then we've already got that and they are just trying to take more of our money... it is cool though that big companies are getting more involved. a little late though :lol:

[Rockpiledriver]

two speed isn't that great in a crawler. maybe a rock racer. by the way, yeah it looks like it would be pretty decent out of the box but who cares! what serious driver is going to leave it stock?with all the tranny options and chassis options and customizing at our hands, all that really matters is the axles. the rest, if worthy, is just bonus. i think its cool but honestly i'm not that excited about it. it looks like basically a half baked attempt to re-label the twin force as a crawler. like i said before most people are only going to care about the axles and maybe other cool little gadgets but if its just a different look to the twin axles then we've already got that and they are just trying to take more of our money... it is cool though that big companies are getting more involved. a little late though :lol:

A little late? There's only one kit (complete roller in a box) on the market here in the US thats available to the mass market. I wouldn't say they are late. I would say they are well ahead of the game at this point. Crawling in Japan is still very new, so any crawler that comes out from overseas companies should be a big hit over there.

[blue-beard]

two speed isn't that great in a crawler. maybe a rock racer. by the way, yeah it looks like it would be pretty decent out of the box but who cares! what serious driver is going to leave it stock?with all the tranny options and chassis options and customizing at our hands, all that really matters is the axles. the rest, if worthy, is just bonus. i think its cool but honestly i'm not that excited about it. it looks like basically a half baked attempt to re-label the twin force as a crawler. like i said before most people are only going to care about the axles and maybe other cool little gadgets but if its just a different look to the twin axles then we've already got that and they are just trying to take more of our money... it is cool though that big companies are getting more involved. a little late though :lol:
:roll:
So you have inside information on how their 2 speed works and why it sucks right? Just because the e-maxx 2 speed isn't ideal for crawling doesn't mean this tranny will be.
So what would constitute a full baked attempt?
Twin axles are stout as fawk! Why change them too much?
So what major company isn't trying to make money buy having us buy their products? :lol:

I am all for any company that wants to build kick a$$ stuff for this hobby! "thumbsup"
Personally I think this is a badass looking crawler! 8)

[KRAWLR4life]

I wonder how many pages of posts that discussing will take up.:lol:

Im guessing 10ish :lol:
Im guessing there will be more addicts requesting preorder info...:roll:
~John

[binaryterror]

Hey RCP or its affiliates. 2 Questions you might be able to supply answers to.

1. Likeliness of actual production (say on a scale of 1-not so likely to 10-very solid)
2. Expected release (weeks away, months, year, more?)

Thanks
"thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"

[KRAWLR4life]

Hey RCP or its affiliates. 2 Questions you might be able to supply answers to.

1. Likeliness of actual production (say on a scale of 1-not so likely to 10-very solid)
2. Expected release (weeks away, months, year, more?)



1. Likeliness of actual production (say on a scale of 1-not so likely to 10-very solid)
Anwser: 5

2. Expected release (weeks away, months, year, more?)
Anwser: Next Millinuim

Hope this helps"thumbsup"

[RCMFMaxxMan]

A little late? There's only one kit (complete roller in a box) on the market here in the US thats available to the mass market. I wouldn't say they are late. I would say they are well ahead of the game at this point. Crawling in Japan is still very new, so any crawler that comes out from overseas companies should be a big hit over there.
I meant compared to the sport not the market. like the ax-10 was late also compared to how long the sport has been popular. sorry for the miscommunication

:roll:
So you have inside information on how their 2 speed works and why it sucks right? Just because the e-maxx 2 speed isn't ideal for crawling doesn't mean this tranny will be.
So what would constitute a full baked attempt?
Twin axles are stout as fawk! Why change them too much?
So what major company isn't trying to make money buy having us buy their products? :lol:

I am all for any company that wants to build kick a$$ stuff for this hobby! "thumbsup"
Personally I think this is a badass looking crawler! 8)
1. sure it might be a great 2 speed tranny. i'm just saying 2 speeds are kind of unnecessary for crawling. you gear it low and then you get wheel speed from volts not by gearing back up because then you lose torque. and why would you do that when you could get more wheel speed and more torque with a couple more volts which would probably be the same or less weight as the 2 speed components.
2. full baked as in re-doing everything. a completely new rig. not just slapping force axles under a new chassis. i mean thats what we all do anyway.
3. yes i know that the force axles are strong. i have a pair myself. i meant that its pointless to just make them look different and put them under a new chassis because then you'll basically just end up with the same axles! they are indeed great axles but they are already here. this is beside the point but one revision to the force series axles i would make is a smooth surface under the pumpkin. the ridges for the screws is the one thing i'm not to fond of on the force axles. so if these rock force axles are smooth on the bottom then the housings might be worth buying.
4. yeah i agree companies exist to make a profit. i'm just putting a thought out there that if these axles are basically the same as the twin/mad force axles then this kit is just really not much more than a scheme to take more money from you. its basic economics. you have one product and then a new one comes out that probably works equally as well but the fact that it is the latest model you have to dish out the dough. a good example is the ipods. they often have very little improvement from one generation to the next. and they probably have a couple more generations already developed and capable of being ready to sell but why would they sell them first when they can make money off of less-new model first.
5. who isn't all for companies making awesome things for this hobby (besides the wives haha). again i was just presenting a thought that maybe this isn't that special because its the same if not behind what we have been building all along. yeah it looks cool but again whats different about it? what is special and innovative about it thats worth me dishing out a few hundred bucks to have something a good deal better than what i have now.

Sorry for any miscommunications. and i didn't mean to be prejudice toward this new truck. i was just stating a different point of view. hope this clears things up :roll:

[gregrocks90046]

Hey RCP or its affiliates. 2 Questions you might be able to supply answers to.

1. Likeliness of actual production (say on a scale of 1-not so likely to 10-very solid)
2. Expected release (weeks away, months, year, more?)

Thanks
"thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"

as far as i know, RCP does not have anything to do with the crawler in this thread. you would have to ask kyosho.

[gstealer]

Don't any of you guys pay attention?

I highly doubt that it was coincidence that this guy showed up at RCP's Crawling booth.

[gregrocks90046]

Don't any of you guys pay attention?

I highly doubt that it was coincidence that this guy showed up at RCP's Crawling booth.

exactly. and for those that don't know who that is, it's gil losi jr.

[binaryterror]

exactly. and for those that don't know who that is, it's gil losi jr.

Running a nice rendition of some crawler.

PS in the RC word Gil Losi Jr should be refered to as God...thank you.

[gregrocks90046]

Running a nice rendition of some crawler.

PS in the RC word Gil Losi Jr should be refered to as God...thank you.

gil was wheeling brian's 2.2 hustler in that pic.

[mrpink]

The "body" does not meet either the body or the tube chassis USRCCA rules. :mrgreen:

funny, that was the first thing I thought when i saw that picture too.

With this, and the GMade Stealth both of which are illegal; maybe the rules should be amended. I dont plan on running either; but for people just entering the hobby that would be a swift kick in the nads to find out that your new, factory produced rig is not competition legal.:shock::shock:

RCP, I sent you a paypal for $500; call it a pre-pre-pre order (let me know if it will cost more.)

[Natedog]

Interesting a re-worked Mad Force MT....nice the manufacturers are paying attention finally.

[ThinkTank]

Don't any of you guys pay attention?

I highly doubt that it was coincidence that this guy showed up at RCP's Crawling booth.

And since he works for Kyosho and hangs out with RCP I'm sure he had something to do with the Rock Force."thumbsup"

[Rockpiledriver]

Interesting a re-worked Mad Force MT....nice the manufacturers are paying attention finally.

Yes they are and Kyosho is not the only one who is paying attention.;-)

[mrpink]

Yes they are and Kyosho is not the only one who is paying attention.;-)

didn't you tell them this whole "crawling thing" is just a fad?

[Reflection]

It has a 2 speed tranny. ;-)

I can tell you there are greater Kyosho projects in the works.;-) We have already tested some of them."thumbsup"


GUY's,this is AWESOME!

Knowing the Kyosho stuff pretty good,I can see ALLOT of potential here.

I wanna test one"thumbsup"

[3Samudra]

has some "deans" plugs i see

pretty happy with what we have already

can only be " frosting " for future builds

"builds" being the best part for me :):):)

[ThinkTank]

GUY's,this is AWESOME!

Knowing the Kyosho stuff pretty good,I can see ALLOT of potential here.

I wanna test one"thumbsup"

:shock:

Cobalt Puller + 3 cell Lipo + 2 Speed tranny + TF + Raptorman57 =

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/ThinkTank_02/SS-1.jpg

:lol:

[twisted]

doesn't the availability of kyosho come to mind ? i think the crawler is very cool looking but with kyosho having no distributers here in the US that i know of, i wonder how well it will sell.

i had a twin force and loved it,actually i had two but is was short lived.i wanted to get another but seen how hard it was to get anything kyosho here in the states.

[binaryterror]

doesn't the availability of kyosho come to mind ? i think the crawler is very cool looking but with kyosho having no distributers here in the US that i know of, i wonder how well it will sell.

It is now way better. The US distributor is Kyosho America. The Twin force was not a high seller such as their racing line. I can give you links to a few shops that carried tons of Inferno, Evola, Stallion, Lazer and Ultima parts since those are common racers. While the more novelty selling Kyosho bits have a lower ease of parts. Remember though, RCP, TCS, and RPP and others are rock oriented, I'd assume if Kyosho does do this our vendors will step up big and support the truck for us as long as it proves worthy.

[Reflection]

Guy's,lets keep this on topic here.

doesn't the availability of kyosho come to mind ? i think the crawler is very cool looking but with kyosho having no distributers here in the US that i know of, i wonder how well it will sell.

i had a twin force and loved it,actually i had two but is was short lived.i wanted to get another but seen how hard it was to get anything kyosho here in the states.

RCP is a Kyosho dealer"thumbsup"

I have ZERO troubles getting anything I need from Kyosho. Never have.

[Big Mike]

Sorry, I get sidetracked so easily on the Internet.

kyosho having no distributers here in the US

???? - They've got to get stuff here somehow, my LHS has a huge rack of Kyosho parts.

[Reflection]

my LHS has a huge rack of Kyosho parts.

My LHS does as well.

Reguardless of your area....RCP crawlers can get you what you need and they have some of the fastest shipping around."thumbsup" Shipped from the other side of the planet to me,it's usually 2-3 days and it's in my hands"thumbsup"

[Blaze]

HELL YEAH :shock: That thing looks great. That will definitely be my next crawler. But I've always been partial to Kyosho. I use to race a Ultima back in the 80's and my twin I have now has been a blast. And I like the kit idea alot because I don't have time "or skill" to do all the custom fab stuff.

[a69baldone]

That is one nasty looking rig out of the box. Looks like the axal sales might go down when its released. Glad I have been waitin on the axal. Gives me more time to save up for the kyosho. Any release date or somewhere to get specs on it yet? I WANT ONE!! I WANT ONE!!. I never would of thought kyosho would have come up with a crawler especially something as sweet as that. Two thumbs up for kyosho"thumbsup"

[twisted]

It is now way better. The US distributor is Kyosho America. The Twin force was not a high seller such as their racing line. I can give you links to a few shops that carried tons of Inferno, Evola, Stallion, Lazer and Ultima parts since those are common racers. While the more novelty selling Kyosho bits have a lower ease of parts. Remember though, RCP, TCS, and RPP and others are rock oriented, I'd assume if Kyosho does do this our vendors will step up big and support the truck for us as long as it proves worthy.

i hope so. my lhs has nothing kyosho.reason being "its to hard to get anything from them" so they say..

im not knocking kyosho in any way, i haven't had anything from them since i owned my twin forces.(which i loved) ive just read some concerns about their availability.

[Rockpiledriver]

:lol:i hope so. my lhs has nothing kyosho.reason being "its to hard to get anything from them" so they say..

im not knocking kyosho in any way, i haven't had anything from them since i owned my twin forces.(which i loved) ive just read some concerns about their availability.

Another reason being a member here at rcc pays off. There is absolutely no availability issues with getting parts from Kyosho. Whenever we order from them, the shipment arrives the next day at our warehouse. We have had no problems getting any item from them in the past and don't foresee any problems in the future either. Their US office and wareshouse is only 40 minutes from our warehouse. We have a great relationship with both their US and Japan companies. If there is something in Japan that they don't carry here in the states, we can get that too. I have worked with them for the last 6 years through our pro-racetrack company and have nothing but great things to say about their staff and company.

So I guess that puts an end to availability issues.:lol:"thumbsup"

[binaryterror]

The only time it was "hard to get" Kyosho parts for my Lazer ZX-5 was when Tower/Great Planes dropped them and before they had Kyosho USA fully set up. All good now and looks like RCP has you covered for current items as well as future stuff.

Good to see RCP being in the hobby and looks like they might be helping the Kyosho team join our world of crawling.

[twisted]

:lol:

Another reason being a member here at rcc pays off. There is absolutely no availability issues with getting parts from Kyosho. Whenever we order from them, the shipment arrives the next day at our warehouse. We have had no problems getting any item from them in the past and don't foresee any problems in the future either. Their US office and wareshouse is only 40 minutes from our warehouse. We have a great relationship with both their US and Japan companies. If there is something in Japan that they don't carry here in the states, we can get that too. I have worked with them for the last 6 years through our pro-racetrack company and have nothing but great things to say about their staff and company.

So I guess that puts an end to availability issues.:lol:"thumbsup"


im glad to hear that.

[Soya]

Sorry, I get sidetracked so easily on the Internet.



???? - They've got to get stuff here somehow, my LHS has a huge rack of Kyosho parts.


That's because it comes from Kyosho directly, not from a distributor like Great Planes or Horizon etc.

[balang_479]

Im not sure if this has been said before but i think the reason why the upper links are offset is because the diff is offset in the axle to fit the servo on one side, so to have straight linkage they have to be mounted like that, if you know what i mean....

[Highmark]

mmmmm exciting.

The only real bummer is that you'll never be competitive with a shafty in any sort of big competition nowadays, unless it's a really good one. Guys like Gimbal and RX have pulled it off but I don't see a big shafty come back on the horizon. That being said I don't see a ton of people fun crawling supers anymore ... seems like kind of a nill market at the moment. I hope it picks up though, that rig is cool as hell.

If it had some clod style axles built like twin force axles with typical Kyosho quality I'd be super excited. "thumbsup"

[binaryterror]

Maybe the Super Class will split if the shafty can't hang....

[whoodie]

Highmark, I agree with you on supers not being competitive with shafts. The only way I can see the the Kyosho being competitive is if one of those servos in the chassis used as a sort of drake/disconnect. Now that would be cool!

[Ryutech]

On the name card, after it says "Hi, Low" it says "rear drive cut". And it also says that it has a disk brake, so I'd guess it has rear disconnect.

[Hurley0706]

Highmark, I agree with you on supers not being competitive with shafts. The only way I can see the the Kyosho being competitive is if one of those servos in the chassis used as a sort of drake/disconnect. Now that would be cool!

Even if it does, so do clods so they are still just playing catch-up.

No matter what I am excited to see everyone paying more attention. I just hope they don't run away if a super sized rig is a huge flop (in return investment to the company). 2.2 would probably be a different story.

[Kranberry]

i dont like the all wheel steer to many servos to burn and replace plus you would need a 5 ch radio:shock:

[Grizzly4x4]

If the 14" WB thing takes off maybe we can split the Super class into 2 classes that run on the same courses.
In a 14" class a shafty is most definitely competitive. "thumbsup"

[Reflection]

i dont like the all wheel steer to many servos to burn and replace plus you would need a 5 ch radio:shock:

:roll: It's just a matter of hooking things up to your preference. I don't like full time 4WS either. Thats why you hook the rear servo into the 3rd channle.

There's no more servo's on this rig controlling steering than my super,my sons super or anyone else in ETRC for that matter. One servo per axle is all thats there for the steering. The servo's in the chassis are for controling the other options.

There's guys out there that run 6 channle radio's"thumbsup"


If the 14" WB thing takes off maybe we can split the Super class into 2 classes that run on the same courses.

I like that idea.

I'm fixen to start setting my 14r up this weekend.

[skogsvild]

Anyone know what motor this awsome rig has????


i will buy one as soon as possible :D

i fawking love the look of it :D

[STEEL_CITY_CRAWLER]

most likely, it will come as a roller, no motor/s or electronics....

BUT.....

i'd maybe be interesting to see kyosho give ya a mag mayhem with it...

[Rockpiledriver]

most likely, it will come as a roller, no motor/s or electronics....

BUT.....

i'd maybe be interesting to see kyosho give ya a mag mayhem with it...

RTR

[STEEL_CITY_CRAWLER]

RTR


hmmmm, interesting.... 8)

[Tuffone]

Seems like a nice rig. I will be excited to see the specs.

[skogsvild]

Seems like a nice rig. I will be excited to see the specs.


me 2

I love how it looks :D just hop it perform as well as it looks :D

[whoodie]

RTR really? Interesting, well I still want one!

RCP, is it designed around a standard 6 cell sub-c battery pack?

It's ok if you cannot disclose, I understand.

[toyofast]

If Kyosho is building something , IT WILL be good. I don't think that company has designed a flop yet. :twisted:



Ahhh... they have had a few back in the late '80s and early '90s. I own at least one of them still, the Maxxum. A Front Wheel drive off-road buggy was a big flop:lol: Yet I love the car.





Why do so many people have to speculate so much on the rig? You only have a handfull of pictures to look at an none of them give you much information. I just don't understand the purpose of it.

It has been said but, if Kyosho builds it... it will be of high quality. And from a personal stand point... Out of the larger RC manufactures(Kyosho, Traxxas, Tamiya, AE, Losi, etc..), I'd rather have a new RC Crawler come from Kyosho than any of the other folks. Why? Quality and toughness.

[JohnRobHolmes]

I want kyosho to build a 2.2 with 8mm shafts all the way through. Im tired of being afraid to push my 2.2 like I do my twin force.

[dirk379]

This looks like a pretty killer rig. The whole set up looks fun to drive, 14"WB with XLs and shaft driven, im diggin it. Plus the whole sideplates with alum tub style skid morhed into looking like a tuber is sweet.

[rockspider]

On the name card, after it says "Hi, Low" it says "rear drive cut". And it also says that it has a disk brake, so I'd guess it has rear disconnect.

Did anybody noticed what this Ryutech guy said? Look at his location, he's from Japan and can read what is written on the very first pic.

Wonder now if Hi-low is referred to a 2 speed tranny or to the ride height, but anyway with rear disc braked disconnect and the ride height winches, tuber-looking frame, 4ws and serious 4 link, possibly the helical cut R&P from Mad RTR, all from a bone stock factory model, well... this will be a badass crawler, like no other kit or rtr on the market at the moment.
And you talking about US rules, ok you have those. But think for a moment how many other countries are out there warmly welcoming a model like that!

To the guys saing this is a half baked revamping of a Twin, or similar phrases, think a few years ago, when Jugg and Jugg2 were selling, and then TXT first images started to circulate on the net.
Sure there some people had nothing but rants about it. But seeing from now, would you say TXT was a flop fro Tamiya, even if it sportet just a revamped Jugg axle and some factory alu cage frame and 4 links?

For me, Kyosho deserves a big applause just for thinking in our direction. That's a good news for everybody loving RC rockcrawling.

Just my 2 cents

Alessandro
from Italy

[Reflection]

I want kyosho to build a 2.2 with 8mm shafts all the way through. Im tired of being afraid to push my 2.2 like I do my twin force.

A-men brutha"thumbsup"




And you talking about US rules, ok you have those. But think for a moment how many other countries are out there warmly welcoming a model like that!

.....

If the 14" WB thing takes off maybe we can split the Super class into 2 classes that run on the same courses.
In a 14" class a shafty is most definitely competitive. "thumbsup"


I like that idea.

I'm fixen to start setting my 14r up this weekend.

Honestly,I'd like to see a 14r class added. This new Kyosho rig would/could be real close to fitting a set of rules geared towards a 14r class rig.



For me, Kyosho deserves a big applause just for thinking in our direction. That's a good news for everybody loving RC rockcrawling.



I agree.

[twisted]

even if this truck does not conform to USA rules does that mean the rules can not be adjusted ? or that there can not be another class added ? if the demand is there ? it takes everyone as a whole to make the sport grow even more, limiting what can be done on the comp side of things will eventually hurt the sport more then help it.

either way, if it is produced it will be a good addition to a crawlers fleet even if it is just for back yard crawling...

[skogsvild]

anyone have any more info on this one yet?????

[Reflection]

anyone have any more info on this one yet?????


Nope:-P:-P:-P

[Thorsteenster]

How about now?

[Rockcrawler]

So are they working on more than one?

[ThinkTank]

How about now.:lol:


Its rcp smoke and mirrors :-P

:lol:

That thing looks like crap. I hate the link mounts. Everything is weird and offset.

:roll:
This is a piece of crap.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/ThinkTank_02/Crap.jpg

[a69baldone]

Maybe it should of been called the area 51 crawler. Just cant seem to get any info on it. Looks pretty sweet if I do say though. Maybe just takes time to perfect something thats perfect.;-)

[alanpineapple]

i want one...

no!

I need one !!!

[TheHeadHunter]

My LHS in Osaka quoted a ridiculous $500-600 and no idea if it will be ever released:-(

[ThinkTank]

My LHS in Osaka quoted a ridiculous $500-600 and no idea if it will be ever released:-(

Quit your whining.

A RTR AX10 from TCS costs from $410-$525.

http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Axial-AX10-Scorpion-Complete-Package-Deal-2-Everything-you-need-to-get-up-and-running-p-16671.html

http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Axial-AX10-Scorpion-Complete-Package-Deal-1-Everything-you-need-to-get-up-and-running-p-16539.html

The Rock Force is a RTR super.
So your really paying $100 more for a high quality RTR super instead of an RTR AX10.:roll:
Besides , I heard it will be released around summer.

[alanpineapple]

My LHS in Osaka quoted a ridiculous $500-600 and no idea if it will be ever released:-(

Yes, i agree is rediculous!!!
its ridiculously unexpensive...:lol:

[binaryterror]

My LHS in Osaka quoted a ridiculous $500-600 and no idea if it will be ever released:-(

So they gave you a price but it won't be released? Something fishy is going on at your local hobby store.

To get a price estimate, short of yanking it from your buttocks, you have to see cost from a distributor. If a distributor has cost information that means Kyosho has intentions of releasing it at some point.

[alanpineapple]

So they gave you a price but it won't be released? Something fishy is going on at your local hobby store.

To get a price estimate, short of yanking it from your buttocks, you have to see cost from a distributor. If a distributor has cost information that means Kyosho has intentions of releasing it at some point.

RIGHT!!!

[TheHeadHunter]

Quit your whining.

A RTR AX10 from TCS costs from $410-$525.

http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Axial-AX10-Scorpion-Complete-Package-Deal-2-Everything-you-need-to-get-up-and-running-p-16671.html

http://www.tcscrawlers.com/Axial-AX10-Scorpion-Complete-Package-Deal-1-Everything-you-need-to-get-up-and-running-p-16539.html

The Rock Force is a RTR super.
So your really paying $100 more for a high quality RTR super instead of an RTR AX10.:roll:
Besides , I heard it will be released around summer.


Some wake up facts for ThinkTank :
Tamiya prices in Japan as follows;

TLT-1 kit - $120

Super Clodbuster kit-$150

TXT-1 kit -$260

Highlift kit - $260

the new Tamiya Crawler which I just got a quote for a sweet $250
I guess add about 30% on top of these prices and you get the USA
prices and remember these are kits so to an RTR stage a good
+ $100 to 200bucks agree?
see my point ThinkTank?;-)
if the Kysho is ever sold in the USA it will be
over $650 to $700 just for the kit friend!"thumbsup":lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:8)

[TheHeadHunter]

Yes, i agree is rediculous!!!
its ridiculously unexpensive...:lol:

over $700 for the kit buddddddd!

[TheHeadHunter]

Here is my PM to Red Jim who asked me kindly to dig up some local facts from the RC scene in Japan...

I went to do a bit of LHS shoppin tonight and asked the guys at the store bout the Kyosho crawler and they said there has been nothing about it at all in all the Japanese RC mags...I'm guessing Kysho is playing it safe , since crawling is not so huge in Japan .You see Tamiya is releasing the new one in the US first because they know where the crawler market is ...the overall business style is a guttless venture here in Japan compared to the US and (my country) Australia ...in Australia people go for it!!!if its a good business idea and it usually gets noticed if it were a good idea ...here its like people have to be 300% sure first...
before they buy a new product so as long as they heard a billion others say its good they might buy the item ...hence why Tamiya is selling the new crawler first elsewhere,first kids will read that its awesome bla bla bla and will buy one after all the other guys have one too and very slowly......
So understanding the local market Kyosho is waiting for Tamiya to break the local crawling market ice with its CR-1...
You see that goes hand in hand with the way the Japanese produce any goods in general...the Axial scorpion in the USA showed a great success and like always the Japanese copied the US when they smelled American money (and its safe to start to copy).Then the successful item spreads like an Australian bush fire in mid summer and thats my prediction about when the Kyosho will be sold if it ever will be sold...cheers ,

..if my understanding of the predictable Japanese market is
correct the Kyosho will be sold not too long after the CR-1 has had its taste of US $$$$ ....thats if it will ever be sold with its SKy High kit price

Alex

I had a busy Thursday and after a few beers this was my honest opinion about Japanese companies and style of doing business (I find it very dirty in a sense of being gutless and without any dignity or pride)...
we westerners have always accused the Japanese of the same thing that they have done since I can remember and way before since I was only born in 1977:lol: weather its cars or electronics and I just wanted you guys to know that its the same s##t about RC products .I live with it every ****ing day for the last 7years it has never bothered me either , except after getting fed up with it at times:x like this...
I am not racist or pissed off at anyone I just purely want everyone to know that Japanese way of business is dirty :twisted: in RC as much as in all else"thumbsup":)

[ThinkTank]

Some wake up facts for ThinkTank :
Tamiya prices in Japan as follows;

TLT-1 kit - $120

Super Clodbuster kit-$150

TXT-1 kit -$260

Highlift kit - $260

the new Tamiya Crawler which I just got a quote for a sweet $250
I guess add about 30% on top of these prices and you get the USA
prices and remember these are kits so to an RTR stage a good
+ $100 to 200bucks agree?
see my point ThinkTank?;-)
if the Kysho is ever sold in the USA it will be
over $650 to $700 just for the kit friend!"thumbsup":lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:8)

I forgot that you were in Japan. My bad.:lol::lol:
John at RCP mentioned to me roughly a year ago that Kyosho was gearing up to release a RTR Twin Force at the time. (I'm going to assume that it was the Rock Force in devolpement.)

I have faith/hope that it will be released!:lol:
After all I've been waiting a damn year for this.:roll:

[Reflection]

It's kindly a moot point to discuss prices when theres no for sure date or even a finished product to even get prices from isn't it????

[TheHeadHunter]

It's kindly a moot point to discuss prices when theres no for sure date or even a finished product to even get prices from isn't it????

right on :lol: just wishing for now

[TheHeadHunter]

I forgot that you were in Japan. My bad.:lol::lol:
John at RCP mentioned to me roughly a year ago that Kyosho was gearing up to release a RTR Twin Force at the time. (I'm going to assume that it was the Rock Force in devolpement.)

I have faith/hope that it will be released!:lol:
After all I've been waiting a damn year for this.:roll:

yeah bro :lol: I want one badddddddddddlyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!:twisted:

[badger]

It's all about evolution. Go back 2 years on this site (if you can) and see what folks were running.

You can. Jason started this site 4 years ago this month and we have build threads from back in 02/04. 8)

[BitHed]

...Have to confirm that there is NOTHING in the RC print media right now...An educated guess believes that they may do more on it around the date of the local Hobby Show in May or thereabouts...

...Check Kyosho France because they always seem to more than Kyosho Jpn...Strange but true...

[zoojunkie]

http://www.rceasy.com/2008/05/16/47th-shizuoka-hobby-show-kyosho-rock-force-22/img08050015_1/



looks good. wonder when it will be ready for purchase?

and check out the rear dig.
http://www.rceasy.com/2008/05/16/47th-shizuoka-hobby-show-kyosho-rock-force-22/img08050015_2/

[ScottMilesW]

Here is the link to the actual info, so now people can quit wondering! LOL

http://clodzone.com/?p=1237

[Hurley0706]

We will see how the diffs work. I heard from a distributor that they are going to have some sort of "torque sensing" deal to allow freewheel. Sounds like too much going on in there too be reliable.

[ian48065]

http://www.rceasy.com/2008/05/16/47th-shizuoka-hobby-show-kyosho-rock-force-22/img08050015_1/



looks good. wonder when it will be ready for purchase?

and check out the rear dig.
http://www.rceasy.com/2008/05/16/47th-shizuoka-hobby-show-kyosho-rock-force-22/img08050015_2/

that to me looks more like a servo to activate a locker?

kind of highlift ish?

[whoodie]

We will see how the diffs work. I heard from a distributor that they are going to have some sort of "torque sensing" deal to allow freewheel. Sounds like too much going on in there too be reliable.

Torsen style differentials are "torque sensing" and they are purely mechanical "thumbsup"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen

Of course they only work when both tires are on the ground.

[spectre]

new pix:

http://www.rceasy.com/2008/09/05/kyosho-rock-force-22-action-photo/#more-16121

[Tupers]

This thing looks awesome, I'll definitely be getting one when they come out.

[jetboat]

I think the axles are inovative but to me the overall buggy appears very "old school"

[tylerdurden455]

sorry if this is a repost, but I didn't see it on the forums. Some great video of the new Kyosho. Wonder if that dig is going to be out of the box? Appears so...

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