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nor-cal zukini · 01-31-2008, 02:09 PM

I really starting to think about just sticking to real 4wd's. This damn thing is costing me just as much

Truthfully, I really dont think that I am being that hard on this AX-10. While in the back yard today, the rear wheels deciced that they dont want to turn with throttle now. I disasembled the rear diff and nothing is broken, but I can hold the rear tires, give it some throttle and I can feel something giving way in the rear diff.

Driveshaft spins fine
Grab both tires and go oposite ways with them, nice a solid. Rules out locker
Ring and pinion are not broken

Could the pinion and ring gear not be meshing? It's hard to determine that when the only way to check it is the axle assembled
The only thing I can see is that there is abit of movement from where the bearing rides on the axle housing side to side. I cant find anything to shim it over. But it doesnt seem to be enough movment that would cause a problem.

Please give me some helpfull advise, before it becomes a lawn orniment

EeePee · 01-31-2008, 02:11 PM

Tighten your wheel nuts.

Kamikaze · 01-31-2008, 02:13 PM

You have broken your wheel hex's, $10 buchs says that there are tiny cracks in the point of the hex. Either get some aluminum rims, or glue in the plastic hexs.

Grizzly4x4 · 01-31-2008, 02:15 PM

Yeah, sounds like the wheels are slipping on the hex drives or the hexes are slipping on the pins.

4x4crawler · 01-31-2008, 02:17 PM

Checked your wheel hexes? Might not twist with your hands but with the motor torque and wheels bound up they might slip.

Another thing, check the hex pins are still in there. I had a front hex come loose which loosened the wheel nut leading to the pin coming out. Luckily i was on the kitchen floor.

4x4crawler · 01-31-2008, 02:18 PM

he beat me!

nor-cal zukini · 01-31-2008, 02:20 PM

Wheels are fine, I can spin the wheels by hand and watch the outer axle stub shafts turn also. It is definatly something internal. I just cant see exactly what is going on inside the axle.

nor-cal zukini · 01-31-2008, 02:22 PM

I also assembled as much as posible with the axle shafts into the locker assy and twisted them as hard as I could and it is solid.

EeePee · 01-31-2008, 02:24 PM

Well then just take the thing apart!

nor-cal zukini · 01-31-2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nor-cal zukini

Wheels are fine, I can spin the wheels by hand and watch the outer axle stub shafts turn also. It is definatly something internal. I just cant see exactly what is going on inside the axle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee

Well then just take the thing apart!

OK! You all can call me the king dumb ass of the day!!! You know, I have been a Dealership technician for over 17 years and I cant believe this, The old KISS theory,

The fawkin drivline set screw had backed out. I did use loc-tite when I installed the Max d-lines, but evedently not enough. DOH!!!!

Thanks for the other info guys, I guess I tend to over analize

EeePee · 01-31-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nor-cal zukini

OK! You all can call me the king dumb ass of the day!!!

I'm gonna save it for later.

Oh, and get more set screws so each side has them.

FightinURfear · 01-31-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nor-cal zukini

OK! You all can call me the king dumb ass of the day!!! You know, I have been a Dealership technician for over 17 years and I cant believe this, The old KISS theory,

The fawkin drivline set screw had backed out. I did use loc-tite when I installed the Max d-lines, but evedently not enough. DOH!!!!

Thanks for the other info guys, I guess I tend to over analize

Beat me to it!! Mine does the same thing. I even used blue loctite and it still backed out. It hasn't done it for a while but I check those before every use. Cheers!

Kamikaze · 01-31-2008, 02:53 PM

oneeye · 01-31-2008, 02:56 PM

Dont feel too bad I had the same thing happen, same parts and situation exactly, but I compleatly dissasembled it, and put it back together to figure it out

Trimmy · 01-31-2008, 02:58 PM

Same thing happened to me. I could pull on it a little and it wouldn't slip off the shaft but it was loose enough not to hold. Glad it was an easy fix for you!!!

Greg337 · 01-31-2008, 03:01 PM

Damn! That set screw was the first thing I thought of but ya beat me to it. Yeah those little guys like to back out on me too.

cembom · 01-31-2008, 03:05 PM

Everyone does it dood, but I feel you might still catch it, theres a few smartasses viewing the thread....

nor-cal zukini · 01-31-2008, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cembom

Everyone does it dood, but I feel you might still catch it, theres a few smartasses viewing the thread....

That's alright, I have been around the block a few times. I can handle it, and I'm sure if I knew abit more about these RC's I could dish it out just as good.

This is the Pirate4x4 site of RC's

cembom · 01-31-2008, 03:18 PM

Yeah its the loudmouth ones that cry lol. So the inside of the maxx output is bigger than the diff pinion right? Someone needs to chime in with the part numbers for the smaller ID shafts, I cant remember which ones are the smaller ones.

Panchira! · 01-31-2008, 07:46 PM

funny thing is i have the same problem....but the front drive shaft is pulling out the bearing???? ill see if the clips are coming off the diff, but the set screws on the drive shafts keep coming out is getting reallllllllllly annoying. i dont want to step up to red lock tight because i want to take it apart sometimes........

01-31-2008, 02:09 PM	#1
nor-cal zukini Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Galt,CA Flat cow land Posts: 15	Yet another failure I really starting to think about just sticking to real 4wd's. This damn thing is costing me just as much Truthfully, I really dont think that I am being that hard on this AX-10. While in the back yard today, the rear wheels deciced that they dont want to turn with throttle now. I disasembled the rear diff and nothing is broken, but I can hold the rear tires, give it some throttle and I can feel something giving way in the rear diff. Driveshaft spins fine Grab both tires and go oposite ways with them, nice a solid. Rules out locker Ring and pinion are not broken Could the pinion and ring gear not be meshing? It's hard to determine that when the only way to check it is the axle assembled The only thing I can see is that there is abit of movement from where the bearing rides on the axle housing side to side. I cant find anything to shim it over. But it doesnt seem to be enough movment that would cause a problem. Please give me some helpfull advise, before it becomes a lawn orniment

01-31-2008, 02:11 PM	#2
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	Tighten your wheel nuts.

01-31-2008, 02:13 PM	#3
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	You have broken your wheel hex's, $10 buchs says that there are tiny cracks in the point of the hex. Either get some aluminum rims, or glue in the plastic hexs.

01-31-2008, 02:15 PM	#4
Grizzly4x4 PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler Posts: 13,137	Yeah, sounds like the wheels are slipping on the hex drives or the hexes are slipping on the pins.

01-31-2008, 02:17 PM	#5
4x4crawler Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 113	Checked your wheel hexes? Might not twist with your hands but with the motor torque and wheels bound up they might slip. Another thing, check the hex pins are still in there. I had a front hex come loose which loosened the wheel nut leading to the pin coming out. Luckily i was on the kitchen floor.

01-31-2008, 02:18 PM	#6
4x4crawler Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 113	he beat me!

01-31-2008, 02:20 PM	#7
nor-cal zukini Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Galt,CA Flat cow land Posts: 15	Wheels are fine, I can spin the wheels by hand and watch the outer axle stub shafts turn also. It is definatly something internal. I just cant see exactly what is going on inside the axle.

01-31-2008, 02:22 PM	#8
nor-cal zukini Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Galt,CA Flat cow land Posts: 15	I also assembled as much as posible with the axle shafts into the locker assy and twisted them as hard as I could and it is solid.

01-31-2008, 02:24 PM	#9
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	Well then just take the thing apart!

01-31-2008, 02:53 PM	#13
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154

01-31-2008, 02:56 PM	#14
oneeye Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Citrus Heights Posts: 301	Dont feel too bad I had the same thing happen, same parts and situation exactly, but I compleatly dissasembled it, and put it back together to figure it out

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01-31-2008, 02:58 PM	#15
Trimmy Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 506	Same thing happened to me. I could pull on it a little and it wouldn't slip off the shaft but it was loose enough not to hold. Glad it was an easy fix for you!!!

01-31-2008, 03:01 PM	#16
Greg337 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: in a house Posts: 40	Damn! That set screw was the first thing I thought of but ya beat me to it. Yeah those little guys like to back out on me too.

01-31-2008, 03:05 PM	#17
cembom Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Flint/Mt. Morris Posts: 570	Everyone does it dood, but I feel you might still catch it, theres a few smartasses viewing the thread....

01-31-2008, 03:18 PM	#19
cembom Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Flint/Mt. Morris Posts: 570	Yeah its the loudmouth ones that cry lol. So the inside of the maxx output is bigger than the diff pinion right? Someone needs to chime in with the part numbers for the smaller ID shafts, I cant remember which ones are the smaller ones.

01-31-2008, 07:46 PM	#20
Panchira! Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 150	funny thing is i have the same problem....but the front drive shaft is pulling out the bearing???? ill see if the clips are coming off the diff, but the set screws on the drive shafts keep coming out is getting reallllllllllly annoying. i dont want to step up to red lock tight because i want to take it apart sometimes........

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