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rcracer3905 · 03-07-2008, 06:19 PM

I was wondering what kind of difference would i notice with the stage 2 installed.Please give me feedback from those of u whom already have it installed.Thanks in advance!

dub599 · 03-07-2008, 06:22 PM

it is fantastic, get it with the bent links and you wont be dissappointed. the worst thing about it is having to take the entire truck back apart. to do all the mods, but thats not big deal

yotachump · 03-07-2008, 06:28 PM

NO, waste of money.

Josh87 · 03-07-2008, 06:30 PM

I say its not worth it. I would go for a different chassis set up before the stage 2. It seems to give you problems with axle steer and such.

Scottish · 03-07-2008, 08:38 PM

I have ran stage 2 scorpion and stock one. The stage 2 was much nicer. I thought it really helped the kit out. One thing i did notice is that it seemed to give it to so much articulation you could get yourself into trouble if you dont have some upgrades to axles and drivetrain. But for overall i would say yes the kit is worth it.

jeepcj578 · 03-07-2008, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotachump

NO, waste of money.

X2.

Heavy Metal Doc · 03-07-2008, 10:04 PM

for those who say its a waste....why? is it all stuff you can get the same effect for free by making adjustments or something? I'm not being a smart azz -- my buddy just ordered that kit and I'm very interested to see the difference for myself - mine is a bone stock AX-10 that i'm just starting to tweak / tune.

twistedone · 03-07-2008, 10:14 PM

I just did this to mine and have not even crawled any thing but around the house when it was stock i hope I like it im going this Sunday I think to a course in my area to check out the course and will report if it works or not or waste of money I hope not

ElChupoCabre · 03-07-2008, 11:02 PM

I would say that it is not worth it. If your buddy is installing it, wait and see what it does for his. I did have it installed on mine ,but ended up changing a few things to suit my chassis needs because it really did not seem to make anything better. After you see your buddie's, you can take what you like from it and fabricate it yourself for probably alot cheaper

BigRocks · 03-08-2008, 01:09 AM

I've spent almost more time watching my rig work and tweaking it as I have driving it.

I performed the "Stage 2" mods to my scorpion, and I feel it helped more than hurt. I fabbed the links myself so it cost me like $2 bucks, but I wouldn't pay more than that.

I don't know what you guys are talking about, but even though the link geometry isn't the most ideal, it's still an improvement over stock.

I've got a dig setup, so maybe thats why mine works so well.

Even so, I can make it over the same ledges now that I would roll over on before, and "impossible" crevice ascends.

mysharona · 03-08-2008, 09:42 AM

If you know how to make links out of aluminum rod, you can do the stage two mod for about 2$-3 bucks. all you need are longer uppers, bent lowers and some 3x30mm bolts.

dub599 · 03-08-2008, 11:04 AM

i noticed a much bigger difference when i put on a set of losi rock claws than when i did the stage 2 mod. i just got my tires yesterday. the stage 2 is a great way to improve on the stock system. it does cost a lot less if your able to find and make all the parts yourself.

twistedone · 03-08-2008, 09:50 PM

well some bench and basement tests are really so far not impressing me much and has anyone else done this with a brushless motor im have a issue of clearance on the motor side with the upper link hitting and making it real hard to mesh motor not happy with that so far
still very twisty i guess thats the word im thinking
well of to the rock in am to really see whats up

Mortimer Snerd · 03-09-2008, 09:26 AM

I've done it on my truck, and the there was improvement, but it wasn't life changing. I'd agree that tires make more difference if you're trying to decide where to spend your money. Also, put your own kit together. The CRKC kit comes with a bunch of stuff that isn't as good quality as the links and spacers put out by Axial. As someone else mentioned, it also ends up costing you more.

jfraymond · 03-09-2008, 10:21 AM

The stage 2 Mod from CKRC is a good setup for a AX-10.
it eliminates 99% of torque twist, and really free's up the suspension.
The down side is because the front end gets so soft and articulates soooo much that you will need to fine tune it to your driving style if your more of a hammer down on the throttle type driver.

If your gonna go with it I would highly recommend also getting some very good shocks to control/adjust it and moving as much of your weight up to the front axle as you can.

Daddydancool · 03-09-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfraymond

The stage 2 Mod from CKRC is a good setup for a AX-10.
it eliminates 99% of torque twist, and really free's up the suspension.
The down side is because the front end gets so soft and articulates soooo much that you will need to fine tune it to your driving style if your more of a hammer down on the throttle type driver.

If your gonna go with it I would highly recommend also getting some very good shocks to control/adjust it and moving as much of your weight up to the front axle as you can.

when you say, ''getting good shocks'' do you suggest any ?
Thanks

juststartin · 03-09-2008, 02:55 PM

A little pimping "Losi Rock Crawler Shock Set"

jfraymond · 03-09-2008, 03:15 PM

Just any good quality threaded shock.
I currently have CKRC's shocks on the truck.
But have some of the losi's in the above link to switch to and try out.
Using the same components the big guys use never hurts, they arent gonna use anything that is a POS.

smallcrawl · 03-09-2008, 05:36 PM

the stage 2 made mine work alot better. some screws and tubing is whole cheaper than a new chassis.

mtnyote · 03-09-2008, 05:50 PM

the fact of the matter is that if you take two stock rigs and perform the stage 2 to one of them, that rig will out crawl the other. rcracer3905 never asked if its the best upgrade per dollar. the difference is more flex and better cog. if you try to deny that, then youre full of $h!t

03-07-2008, 06:19 PM	#1
rcracer3905 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brockton Posts: 22	CKRC stage 2 Is it worth it I was wondering what kind of difference would i notice with the stage 2 installed.Please give me feedback from those of u whom already have it installed.Thanks in advance!

03-08-2008, 01:09 AM	#10
BigRocks Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: marysville Posts: 228	I've spent almost more time watching my rig work and tweaking it as I have driving it. I performed the "Stage 2" mods to my scorpion, and I feel it helped more than hurt. I fabbed the links myself so it cost me like $2 bucks, but I wouldn't pay more than that. I don't know what you guys are talking about, but even though the link geometry isn't the most ideal, it's still an improvement over stock. I've got a dig setup, so maybe thats why mine works so well. Even so, I can make it over the same ledges now that I would roll over on before, and "impossible" crevice ascends. Last edited by BigRocks; 03-08-2008 at 01:13 AM.

03-07-2008, 06:22 PM	#2
dub599 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: pittsburg Posts: 284	it is fantastic, get it with the bent links and you wont be dissappointed. the worst thing about it is having to take the entire truck back apart. to do all the mods, but thats not big deal

03-07-2008, 06:28 PM	#3
yotachump ghetto fabulous newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: with your mom Posts: 2,526	NO, waste of money.

03-07-2008, 06:30 PM	#4
Josh87 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States Posts: 211	I say its not worth it. I would go for a different chassis set up before the stage 2. It seems to give you problems with axle steer and such.

03-07-2008, 08:38 PM	#5
Scottish Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: E. Concord Posts: 179	I have ran stage 2 scorpion and stock one. The stage 2 was much nicer. I thought it really helped the kit out. One thing i did notice is that it seemed to give it to so much articulation you could get yourself into trouble if you dont have some upgrades to axles and drivetrain. But for overall i would say yes the kit is worth it.

03-07-2008, 10:04 PM	#7
Heavy Metal Doc Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Keymar Posts: 41	for those who say its a waste....why? is it all stuff you can get the same effect for free by making adjustments or something? I'm not being a smart azz -- my buddy just ordered that kit and I'm very interested to see the difference for myself - mine is a bone stock AX-10 that i'm just starting to tweak / tune.

03-07-2008, 10:14 PM	#8
twistedone Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Golden Corral getting Fat Posts: 607	I just did this to mine and have not even crawled any thing but around the house when it was stock i hope I like it im going this Sunday I think to a course in my area to check out the course and will report if it works or not or waste of money I hope not

03-07-2008, 11:02 PM	#9
ElChupoCabre Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Bernardino Posts: 553	I would say that it is not worth it. If your buddy is installing it, wait and see what it does for his. I did have it installed on mine ,but ended up changing a few things to suit my chassis needs because it really did not seem to make anything better. After you see your buddie's, you can take what you like from it and fabricate it yourself for probably alot cheaper

03-08-2008, 09:42 AM	#11
mysharona Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2007 Location: lacey Posts: 833	If you know how to make links out of aluminum rod, you can do the stage two mod for about 2$-3 bucks. all you need are longer uppers, bent lowers and some 3x30mm bolts.

03-08-2008, 11:04 AM	#12
dub599 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: pittsburg Posts: 284	i noticed a much bigger difference when i put on a set of losi rock claws than when i did the stage 2 mod. i just got my tires yesterday. the stage 2 is a great way to improve on the stock system. it does cost a lot less if your able to find and make all the parts yourself.

03-08-2008, 09:50 PM	#13
twistedone Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Golden Corral getting Fat Posts: 607	well some bench and basement tests are really so far not impressing me much and has anyone else done this with a brushless motor im have a issue of clearance on the motor side with the upper link hitting and making it real hard to mesh motor not happy with that so far still very twisty i guess thats the word im thinking well of to the rock in am to really see whats up

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03-09-2008, 09:26 AM	#14
Mortimer Snerd Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Denverish Posts: 849	I've done it on my truck, and the there was improvement, but it wasn't life changing. I'd agree that tires make more difference if you're trying to decide where to spend your money. Also, put your own kit together. The CRKC kit comes with a bunch of stuff that isn't as good quality as the links and spacers put out by Axial. As someone else mentioned, it also ends up costing you more.

03-09-2008, 10:21 AM	#15
jfraymond Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: kerrville Posts: 265	The stage 2 Mod from CKRC is a good setup for a AX-10. it eliminates 99% of torque twist, and really free's up the suspension. The down side is because the front end gets so soft and articulates soooo much that you will need to fine tune it to your driving style if your more of a hammer down on the throttle type driver. If your gonna go with it I would highly recommend also getting some very good shocks to control/adjust it and moving as much of your weight up to the front axle as you can.

03-09-2008, 02:55 PM	#17
juststartin Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Corbin KY Posts: 392	A little pimping "Losi Rock Crawler Shock Set"

03-09-2008, 03:15 PM	#18
jfraymond Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: kerrville Posts: 265	Just any good quality threaded shock. I currently have CKRC's shocks on the truck. But have some of the losi's in the above link to switch to and try out. Using the same components the big guys use never hurts, they arent gonna use anything that is a POS.

03-09-2008, 05:36 PM	#19
smallcrawl Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Winston Salem Posts: 8	the stage 2 made mine work alot better. some screws and tubing is whole cheaper than a new chassis.

03-09-2008, 05:50 PM	#20
mtnyote Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: At the Gates Posts: 462	the fact of the matter is that if you take two stock rigs and perform the stage 2 to one of them, that rig will out crawl the other. rcracer3905 never asked if its the best upgrade per dollar. the difference is more flex and better cog. if you try to deny that, then youre full of $h!t

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