Internal springs and oil?

[REVO of Rustler]

I just got my first crawler a week ago (AX-10 ARTR) and I was looking at TCS and I saw some internal springs and I was wondering if you still use oil with internal springs?

[DiEzel]

Yes

[WVB]

Yes, I used 30wt on all 3 with the left rear being 45wt w/ medium tcs springs... (This being used on my old edge chassis)

[REVO of Rustler]

Ok, thanks.

[moabax]

I am currently running the medium internal springs and 45wt oil. I think that something like 60-70wt would work a little better, but that is just my 2 cents.

[theslowguy]

If you want to save some money go to the local ace hardware or whatever and snoop arround a bit. I found like 5 or 6 diffrent spring that either fit perfectly on the sock shaft or around the body and are all diffrent strengths. I even going one step farther and doing a progressive setup and putting in a longer shaft spring and a shorter body spring for more tunability.

[Pdog7]

I've never really understood the intetnal spring thing. Are you running these in a droop set-up exclusively or good for sprung applications also? What is the benefit over non-internally sprung methods? Are you still limiting your shocks internally?

[lizard017]

you can still run limiters on your shocks, ive found that use of internal shock is more for clearence issues in a standerd non droop setup unless your running a droop setup, than internal is a must,and also gives a sleek look too,lol,, like that matters, as far as oil, for example, without oil if your front tires spin on a rock they tend to bounce or decending of a ledge and landing hard, the use of oil tends to stop the bounce, also as it articulate, makes for a more smooth transition, less jerky, bouncy, or whatever you want to call it, makes for more control and i think it makes your rig more predictable, its always better to know what your rig is going to do or how it will react in a certain situation,,,,as for benifit, it will be different for each his own, different style driving- diffenent setup


just my .02 cents

[Some Old Guy]

what is the advantage of doing internal springs vs external
Thanx a bunch

[moabax]

Made the switch to 70wt and it perfoms like never before. I love having a super stable droop setup now.

[Firefox]

Originally Posted by moabax

Made the switch to 70wt and it perfoms like never before. I love having a super stable droop setup now.

Front and rear ?

thanks

[moabax]

Originally Posted by Firefox

Front and rear ?

thanks

Yes both front and rear. I do have a 1/4 inch of fuel tube in the front right to help preload the spring a little. I found that only going up realy steep (63 + degrees) I was getting a small amount of torque twist. In a droop setup you need to remember that it is opposite of a conventional sprung shock. (outer sprung rigs preload the left rear, Droop you preload the right front IF you need to. Hope this helps.

[theslowguy]

Originally Posted by moabax

I am currently running the medium internal springs and 45wt oil. I think that something like 60-70wt would work a little better, but that is just my 2 cents.

I am running internal springs in the front of my truck and am running 90wt in the front and 60wt in the rear.(which is sprung regular) With the heavy oil I can run softer springs and that helps with my truck articulating easier and because I only have droop in the front I have 0 torque twist.