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Old 08-10-2010, 08:38 PM   #1
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I got a AX-10 ARTR for X-Mas 2 years ago. Ive put a good bit into it and have done purrty well. Even with most of my club mates going MOA. I placed 10th out of 71 @ MotorRama only 9 below Del Monte and 7 below Gatekeeper. The only Axial even in the top ten. So even thu Ive sent more time with my Scaler then Comp rig these last 5 months I'm giving Nat's a shot this year.
This thread will be a quick recap of the last two years and what I will do to get ready for Nat's. Any feedback, Help or Hints will be taken and appreciated.


First aftermarket body and tires.




Throwing on the new shocks after a night of drinking. Bad Idea.


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Old 08-10-2010, 08:49 PM   #2
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Then the Gods shined down on us.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L-jVwGy0fs




His ever going diet



By far my favorite lid to date



As well as one of my fav upgrades

SUPER 300's



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Old 08-10-2010, 09:09 PM   #3
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Here are two vid's that I have learned alot from watching. They are both from MotorRama 010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygJ94pevKeQ





I'm not looking to make big changes to him but, I do want more break over and, Steering.

Setting on all four





As you can see in the steering pic's one tire is turned harder then the other. Is this what the VP 0 Ack knuckles fix?

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Hard left



And a front shot



Newest body


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Yes, the zero ackermann knuckles will keep both tires parallel at any point in the turn. On the other hand, you can just BTA your current setup, and you would have proper ackermann angle, which means that your inside tire would turn sharper than your outside tire.

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the vp knuckles will fix the akerman.
i am gonna have to steal your idea with bending the front battery/4 link/ servo plate down like that, my servo and battery gets hit by the tires at full turn so i think that would help.
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Congrats on the 10th place finish

Yeah if you want to keep your steering setup basically unchanged (sero positioning wise) go with teh vp zero ackerman knucks. Unfortunately, with your current shock positioning, you wo't get much more steering angle. To truly take advantage of your super 300's and the VP knuckles, you have to get creative with your shock and link positions up fronrt. You should take a look at Gunnar's narrow FF-4 build for some inspiration for maximizing your steering throw.

And try the OD gears up front with the UD gears in the rear, that will help with non dig turning too.
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What Locker are you using with the 300's?
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What Locker are you using with the 300's?

A locker comes with the 300's.
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Yes, the zero ackermann knuckles will keep both tires parallel at any point in the turn. On the other hand, you can just BTA your current setup, and you would have proper ackermann angle, which means that your inside tire would turn sharper than your outside tire.Casey
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the vp knuckles will fix the akerman.
i am gonna have to steal your idea with bending the front battery/4 link/ servo plate down like that, my servo and battery gets hit by the tires at full turn so i think that would help.
Thanks I kind of thought that but, Now just to be sure will they both end up being the same as the tire that's turned tighter?

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Congrats on the 10th place finish
And try the OD gears up front with the UD gears in the rear, that will help with non dig turning too.
Thanks. Axial say the OD & UD can not be used together. I have the OD in the front as is.

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What Locker are you using with the 300's?
And yes as Fire Kid said it comes with the SUPER 300's
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yes both of the wheels will turn as tight as the one turning tighter, also you can set the epa's of your radio to steer sharper.
od and ud are only bad when you are reversing, i use both and have good success with it.
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od and ud are only bad when you are reversing, i use both and have good success with it.

What are you doing reversing?
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What is that hotrod body you have on there? It looks awesome, and would be a nice alternative to the usual bug body. Thanks.
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yes both of the wheels will turn as tight as the one turning tighter, also you can set the epa's of your radio to steer sharper.
Cool Thanks man I do have the EPA's maxed out at 150 on my DX3r. Now I just need to make sure the VP's will fit over RCP's clockable C's then it's ordering time.

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What is that hotrod body you have on there? It looks awesome, and would be a nice alternative to the usual bug body. Thanks.
It's a BoLink Legend. It's to narrow per comp rules thu.

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Great looking build! Just getting started with Axial and excited to hear you are keeping up with the MOAs with your rig.
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Show them MOA's how it's done!
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Great looking build! Just getting started with Axial and excited to hear you are keeping up with the MOAs with your rig.
Yeah it's prutty cool but, Don't get me wrong I want a MOA bad. A bud of mine at RCPlanet gave me the scope Axial was working on one about 6 months ago so Ive been holding off &, What do you know they blow ever ones mind with the XR-10.
How good I do at Nats will be making up my mind on what rig I build first A XR-10 or finish SCX-G Wagon


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I'll give it all Ive got but I must say I don't see much better then a 50th place finish for me

I getting ready to start ordering fresh parts to re-vamp him asap. I did put in order for the VP 0 ack knuks last night.
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Why did you decide to leave the 3-link in it?
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Yeah it's prutty cool but, Don't get me wrong I want a MOA bad. A bud of mine at RCPlanet gave me the scope Axial was working on one about 6 months ago so Ive been holding off &, What do you know they blow ever ones mind with the XR-10.
How good I do at Nats will be making up my mind on what rig I build first A XR-10 or finish SCX-G Wagon




I'll give it all Ive got but I must say I don't see much better then a 50th place finish for me

I getting ready to start ordering fresh parts to re-vamp him asap. I did put in order for the VP 0 ack knuks last night.
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Why did you decide to leave the 3-link in it?
Well when I first stared I thought that 3 link would have more flex. Now I know that to not be exactly true but, It works for me so I just left it.

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Well my VP's came in and I'm not sure about this. I need to get his front end wider.

As you can see now both tires point the same way and there is a little more then before.



In this pic vvv They don't seem to be on the same track


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