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Old 12-04-2014, 10:48 AM   #1
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Every one has seen BWD new Nightmare-S chassis. I may be new to comp crawlers, but simple, clean, and to the point. Always a winning combo in my book. And being my first comp build Ill take all the ease of building and use as possible.

We recently restarted SincityRCRC for comp rigs and something to do on the weekends not running scalers all over Vegas. Most of us were converting Wraiths to shafty rigs with parts we had laying around or within the club.
But I am always up for new parts and toys.

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Old 12-04-2014, 10:50 AM   #2
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So like every build, start with a pile of parts. All these parts were going into my Class3 scaler build. But I had them on hand and knew this rig would be more than worth it.

I am going to use this first post to keep track of parts and weights.
So far I have not weighted anything nor have I tried to shave weight. Most of this is built from parts on hand to get it up and running ASAP. Then I will start shaving every oz possible..... Why? Why the heck not - sounds like fun.

Front Axle:
RC Bros ally tubes
Stock front locker
XR10 shafts
STRC Cs
Axial knuckles
3.5in big bores - short miniT pink/orange springs
BWD front axle plate

Rear Axle:
GripFab locking locker
Stock shafts
home made mini tubes
VP razors
3.5in big bores - Short miniT blue springs
BWD "bigger" rear axle mount.

Tranny:
Stock AX10 tranny
Stock gears
BWD motor plate

Chassis:
BWD Nightmare-S
3/16 ally upper links
3/16 ally lower links

Electronic:
Mamba Micro
Castle BEC
Hitec servo
Cheap spare motor




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Old 12-04-2014, 07:00 PM   #3
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So what do all these parts make?


Gotta love the power of a typin' box, better than video editin'....
But before that - I got a little bored and used my super spinning machine (lathe) to play around.
Stock gears on stock lockers thrown into the lathe. I could take more off the thickness and the Dia. But Im not sure how much more off the Dia.
night-002
Stock
night-003
Lathed
night-004

You can see there does not seem as much of a gain in the AX10 case vs the AR60 case. So this trim down gear is going to go a little smaller and get tested in the scaler before I trim a OD/UD gear set.

But the gain in clearance under the axle case would be a major bonus to this Portal guy.
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Old 12-04-2014, 07:40 PM   #4
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Glad to see your build started, I'm anxious to see what ideas you come up with. Looking good so far!
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Old 12-04-2014, 07:54 PM   #5
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Main idea for now is to make it run - Its first comp is on Sunday......
RPP Don't Let me Down!
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:57 PM   #6
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Damn son you better get some coffee and get building


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Old 12-04-2014, 10:15 PM   #7
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This thing is relaxing compared to custom scalers....

Throw all your parts in a CrackerJack box and shake shake - Well thats how Gramps did it.
night-005

The axles are straight forward. And BWD front axle plate - man I love these things. It slides over the servo mounts - very clean. And I can already see upgrades and custom mods coming.
night-006

This lil puppy will be going zoom zoom real quick.
night-007
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Old 12-05-2014, 07:37 AM   #8
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The front plate is by far the nicest and most well thought out design I've ever seen .... I'm extremely impressed


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Old 12-05-2014, 07:42 AM   #9
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I agree, I've seen other that have caught my eye even as a scale guy, but this one trumps them off the single fact of being able to mod it to achieve almost any setup.
More on that later.....

So I spun up links - all ally. Quick and easy for a starting point. I am a dumdum and misread Dons text, so I had to miss match rod ends to get the lengths right.

Photos tonight, flickr and my phone aren't playing well atm.
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:58 AM   #10
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Nice JJ, wish I had a lathe to make/modify parts. What tire wheel combo are you going with ?
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Old 12-05-2014, 09:27 AM   #11
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Nice JJ, wish I had a lathe to make/modify parts. What tire wheel combo are you going with ?
Let me know what you want spun up - I'm no pro, "Barn Built". But I can get it done.
Old school SLWs - Stock for now and I will lighten them up later on.

These photos are crap but I took them quick this morning before leaving for work.
I want to lower the front upper links another hole, and I am using VP razors on the rear for shock mounts. But I am really leaning toward Bulldog chokers. The shocks just seem to leaned over for my taste.
20141205_063305
Full Bump
20141205_063345

These are the best 2.2 tire I have for now. So they were a quick and easy for this weekends comp.
ToDo List:
Hubs
Steering
Clean up wiring
Trim body
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:56 PM   #12
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Bulldog chokers ? Link to said product.... always looking at new options for custom building.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:44 PM   #13
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Bulldog chokers ? Link to said product.... always looking at new options for custom building.
ClassiCutCustom chokers..



They give a hole further forward then the VP razors..
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Old 12-06-2014, 08:53 PM   #14
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Hey check that out - Im not the only one that dremels down rear chubs.


Well - RPP and RCbro didn't let me down. Gearhead 1/8 SLW spacers, longer SLW hubs, and RCBro steering arms.
Things have changed since this photo - but Ill use it for reference. You can see thw larger Traxxas hubs on the rear - Those with 325 SLW hubs and 1/8 spacers helped me get the Pitbulls off the servo. Once I get skinny Comp tires, I can suck it back down.
night-013

Here is my final link setup. The front looks like more separation than the rear because I have major bent lowers. I still think the lower needs less, but We shall see tomorrow.
night-012

ANd I can't say it enough - This front axle plate is baller. You can see even without shortening wires, It all tucks up nice. And this is with huge Traxxas shafts.
night-011

night-010

And final weight - not to shabby. Can't wait till to start lightening it. But Im wondering if i even need too. lol
night-010


Lipos are charged, GoPro is charging, and Rig is packed. Steering is less than stellar but will do for now. See how it is on the rocks in the AM!
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:20 AM   #15
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How did it do for you ?
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:29 PM   #16
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The rig did WONDERFUL!!!
This is the first time I've have driven a comp rig vs a scale rig, and saying how quick I put it together..... I couldn't have asked for any more.
It was stable to the point, everyone was commenting.... The guys know me, I am not afraid of any crazy lines. And we had one or two that I did not think I or anyone could.

My tires and electrics did not like me under a bind at times, but even without true tuning it settled and flowed from one flex to another without effort.

I got some video and photos but work has been crazy this week and we have our scale comp this weekend. So as soon as I can get this edited - Ill get it posted.
Really cant wait to keep tuning this sexy Nightmare!
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:52 AM   #17
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Has anyone used a grub screw locker and had it cause bind in the axle?
It seems like my axle shafts are not perfect and such is causing a bind that then takes it toll on the motor and ESC when the truck is in a bind.


On a good note I have put about 2 dozen packs through the truck. I deff have a few tuning things to do this weekend.
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Old 12-17-2014, 09:54 AM   #18
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I use locking lockers front and rear if you look at my cases you see the 2 holes drilled ...it's for the exact reason you're talking about I've had binding and loosening ...with the access holes I can rotate the locker and adjust the set screws


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Old 12-17-2014, 10:05 AM   #19
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So in a nut shell - I need to play with where the grubs tighten down till it spins freely?
When is someone going to make a removable Diff cover mod for AX10 axles......... To many ideas not enough time!
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:24 AM   #20
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Lol I've been talking with don about custom BWD axles


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