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Old 04-15-2013, 03:00 PM   #141
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First parts came in this afternoon … So my freetime tonight is spend working on the SuDu ...

My first goal for this build, to be as cost effective as possible, got me in to using all plastic XR10 lockouts, C-hubs and knuckles. So in order to be able to run some added weight on the front axle, I had to come up with a KW system to work with stock XR10 knuckles.

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From when I started crawling I have been running less and less added weight to the front axle, as I was working out a sytem I got curious and checked out what I used to run and have on my rigs right now … weight shown is for one side:

1. AX10 FB2 DH2’s with 4 slugs – 116 gram
2. XR10 BJ4 start VP base - 95 gram, end VP base mod – 65 gram
3. XR10 SA3.5 NCD KW system – now 48 gram

In my spare parts I had found some VP 1/8” half add-on rings, if I were to use those my KW would be slightly less then I am currently running on the XR10. As this rig will be lighter and all electronics will be on the front axle I decided to use them , being cost effective and all .



I sat down behind the computer, fired up my CAD program and drew up a KW holder to fit stock XR10 knuckles and use VP halfrings. Offcourse I send the file to Tomy to cut me a pair. They are one-offs and won’t be available for sale …

[edit 9/20/13] Knuckleweights for Axial XR10 knuckles now available by RcBros



To secure the weights to the holder I drilled new holes and tapped M3 in two halfrings, decided to cut those down to minimal size for esthetic reasons only … I will start out with the fully loaded KW system. Weight options with this sytem …







And a pic mounted to the knuckles, I will get pics with wheels on later …



This will have to do for now …

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Old 04-15-2013, 03:57 PM   #142
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Nice. Looks like a nice spool axel sitting on in last pic to

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Old 04-16-2013, 03:36 PM   #143
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Tonight I was able to get some better pictures of the KW system with the wheels mounted on the car. Real happy the first design is spot on !! The fit is just perfect, no single adjustment needed to be made.

On to the pics …





Also a small update on the shocks tonight, I removed the green springs on the rear shocks and replaced them with some silver MRC springs … looks better & feels familiair …

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Old 04-16-2013, 03:53 PM   #144
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Looking good Ronald. Need to update my thread....

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Old 04-16-2013, 11:10 PM   #145
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This rig is insane! Nicely done
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:13 AM   #146
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Very nice Ronald... We should trade our cars!!!!!
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Can I get a pdf of your kw cad drawing so I can make a set please:thumbup:

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Old 04-17-2013, 10:45 AM   #148
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:16 PM   #149
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Nice. Looks like a nice spool axel sitting on in last pic to


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Thanks ...Yes, the grip-lok spools are very clean looking


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Looking good Ronald. Need to update my thread....

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Thanks again .... You should .... I am interested to see some pics of your latest adjustments and mods


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Not now ... perhaps later. First I got to figure out what I am going to with this concept ... I will shoot you a PM when I know more ...


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Very nice Ronald... We should trade our cars!!!!!
LOL ... you want to ? ...... Nah, I think I will stick with it for a while ...

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Thanks Jan, I forgot to post the links .... sorry I left them in my workbag ... tommorow I mail them ...
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:39 AM   #150
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What mm are the spacers on your electronics plate ?
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:23 AM   #151
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I used 7mm delrin spacers, when my driveshafts ever get here I will look in to the possibilities of using taller spacers and lower the E-tray some more ...
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Thanks I was planning on running 10mm spacers, will see how it goes
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:20 PM   #153
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Well .... good news for those of you running stock XR10 knuckles and are looking for a nice KW system. I worked something out with RcBros and as off today he has the templates for the KW system as pictured above

Don't know in what timeframe they will be available, that one is up to RcBro ... perhaps he can chime in on that ...
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Well .... good news for those of you running stock XR10 knuckles and are looking for a nice KW system. I worked something out with RcBros and as off today he has the templates for the KW system as pictured above

Don't know in what timeframe they will be available, that one is up to RcBro ... perhaps he can chime in on that ...
Good work Ronald. You have opened up another option for many of the guys out there only using stock knuckles

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Old 04-26-2013, 03:12 PM   #155
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Thanks Oz

So after a very long wait, the Axial WB8 driveshafts finally showed up today ... They are stock for now, no added reinforcements ... I will run a 35T Tekin pro motor on 3S, is it wise to reinforce the shafts ?



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Thanks exactly what I needed

Could you see if you can mount a servo facing the shocks instead of facing the front?
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:27 PM   #157
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This weekend I am going to strip my BJ4 of the servo and look at electronics placement, I can take a pic of that setup for you
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The re-enforcement is needed on the WB8's so the male end doesn't flex and break. I bet you could epoxy a piece of CF tube in there and only ad a couple grams...
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Hey Ronald id recomend sticking something in the male half. I did for my sudu snd my wraith. I used 3 different inserts.
1. A piece of plastic from a parts tree.
2. A piece of alloy from an old axial alloy link.
3. A long hpi body post.

All relitivly light weight and easy to obtain. You could also use cf rod or tube.

The torque combined with 2.2 dosent mix well with out an insert in the male half esspecially in a bind.

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Old 04-27-2013, 02:22 AM   #160
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Hi Ronald i use the Same driveshafts
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