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tapped-out 08-16-2013 11:06 AM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 8-454 (Post 4442158)
Ground clearance:

@ full extension
-front screw 3-1/8"
-rear screw 3-1/2"

@ ride height
-front screw 2-1/2"
-rear screw 2-13/16"

For running the med and firm springs it seemed to settle quite a bit. These springs have seen about two years of abuse though. I think they lose their initial spring rate from new after a while.

Thanks for posting "thumbsup"

8-454 08-19-2013 10:46 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Made some simple steering stops yesterday for the wraith knuckles. They seem like they'll do pretty good as long as the plastic c-hub holds up.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa1787f9f.jpg
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...psc2c45557.jpg

Crawllife 08-19-2013 11:08 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Having that wide spot for it to hit is better than alot of stops I've seen. It's a great idea. I'd guess a hollow ball or spacer mounted vertically would hurt the C faster.

HARDKNOCKZ 08-20-2013 01:33 AM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Damn Ev...Just can't say enough about this build. It's even MORE impressive with how clean & smart you built her in such a short time span. VERY slick work brutha.

DEFINITELY lookin forward to seeing how she does on the AZ rock in a few weeks.

J.D.

TSK 08-20-2013 02:47 AM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Simple and functional. The way it should be"thumbsup"

Only problem is that it looks closer to 45* than 70*....

8-454 08-20-2013 04:35 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawllife (Post 4446866)
Having that wide spot for it to hit is better than alot of stops I've seen. It's a great idea. I'd guess a hollow ball or spacer mounted vertically would hurt the C faster.

That's kinda similar to the thoughts I had when I knew I needed a stop. I haven't been too keen on the spacer underneath the steering arm style of stops. On my other s-truck I just used Vp xr knuckles so the double shear arms would be the steering stops and its worked out great. But on this build I didn't want too give up the knuckle weights that rob_b modded because I knew I wouldn't need anymore, so the wraith knuckles had to stay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARDKNOCKZ (Post 4446945)
Damn Ev...Just can't say enough about this build. It's even MORE impressive with how clean & smart you built her in such a short time span. VERY slick work brutha.

DEFINITELY lookin forward to seeing how she does on the AZ rock in a few weeks.

J.D.

Thanks JD!"thumbsup" It has been a very productive 10 days :ror:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing (Post 4446957)
Simple and functional. The way it should be"thumbsup"

Only problem is that it looks closer to 45* than 70*....

I would say its closer to 48*:oops:

Actually I have no idea what it is. I just made a template that still allowed me to run my 850 batteries. The tire still drags on the battery pretty hard at full lock. I'll have to get some steering angle pics up. If I went to a smaller battery then I could squeeze out some more angle. Seems to be enough though. We'll see in AZ if it is, especially if they set some crazy tight turns for shafties.

tapped-out 08-29-2013 07:29 AM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
What is your foam set-up now?

8-454 08-29-2013 10:00 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tapped-out (Post 4458408)
What us your foam set-up now?

Up front I have a panther truck foam wrapped in a Nova outer.

Out back I run the stock pink foam.

I've been running that foam setup for a little over two years with good results so far. I do have some new Nova's on the way for a little more modern flavor and testing.

ittybitty 08-29-2013 10:37 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Nice work on the steering stops...I just might have to borrow that idea for my Super. "thumbsup"

8-454 08-31-2013 09:12 AM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ittybitty (Post 4459445)
Nice work on the steering stops...I just might have to borrow that idea for my Super. "thumbsup"

Awesome! :mrgreen:

8-454 08-31-2013 09:35 AM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
I have been getting a little drive time on this thing here and there lately. Went out last Saturday with a group of people and did some course driving that went well and I also went out before that and burned some packs in a tuning session.

After my little session I came to the conclusion that I didn't like the way the scx's felt on big verts and side hills passing 45*. Luckily I had a set of 3.5 Bigbores waiting for this build. I knew these would be okay for what I needed as they're what I run on my 1st s-truck.

For the new specs.
Fronts:
-89mm
-30wt
-med mini spring

Rears:
-85mm
-30wt
-firm mini spring

I ended up running the rear shocks at the stock length to get the rear of the chassis down and take some of the rake of the skid out for personal preferences. For the front shocks I swapped in a 'pede end with a few turns out to get the shock up to 89mm to keep the front height similar to the scx shocks. I'll get new GC specs up soon.

Over all this truck is working excellent! Its very smooth on the transitions. It adapted well to the Ar60 link separation differences from the Ax10 axle. The ground clearance from the raked skid is a welcome bonus, although it does change my attack at rear link geo, not really a big deal. I am just used to driving an tuning a flat belly chassis. I'm feeling pretty confident in it for running it at nats.

To do list for this weekend:
-Make new steering stops, already made a template for 55*(my first ones only netted 47*)
-Swap out the wraith trans case for a standard one
-and possibly swap in my 16t crawlmaster for some added smoothness

Blurry shock pics...
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...pscdfe2e43.jpg
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6e05b0f2.jpg

And trans goodies...
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps55ecb2f9.jpg

TSK 08-31-2013 12:16 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Super stoked to hear you are starting to build some confidence in the rig. hopefully one of the guys can get some video of you on course with this bad boy at Nats.

I continue to look forward at the development this truck makes. Keep up the graet work"thumbsup"

8-454 08-31-2013 01:39 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing (Post 4461032)
Super stoked to hear you are starting to build some confidence in the rig. hopefully one of the guys can get some video of you on course with this bad boy at Nats.

I continue to look forward at the development this truck makes. Keep up the graet work"thumbsup"

Just takes time to adjust to a completely different rig. Soon enough though.

Yeah, vid would be cool. Watch me run over some silly gates:shock:. No 5D decals for it though...

8-454 08-31-2013 01:42 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
47* stops (thinner of the two) and 55* stops. They came out a little beefier then necessary.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps516762f1.jpg
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa6bf7fc1.jpg

And mounted.

Left
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps560d7fe4.jpg

Right
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps10b29ae6.jpg

Knuckle
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps8d7dea70.jpg

8-454 08-31-2013 01:56 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
I anticipated wanting more steering, especially after Trav pointed out that it looked like I was only getting 45* out of my steering, so I broke down and bought some of those trendy little batteries from maxamps for this rig. As it turns out, they worked perfect for the 55* stops.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf383b62c.jpg
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...pseb6d46d7.jpg

Still clears the shocks too.
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps423da35b.jpg

Batt clearance
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...psb028bd80.jpg

boosted4lyf 08-31-2013 02:24 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Looks damn good E!
You should ride the bob to Az



Oh and your wiring disgusts me:ror:

8-454 08-31-2013 03:06 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boosted4lyf (Post 4461169)
Looks damn good E!
You should ride the bob to Az



Oh and your wiring disgusts me:ror:


:shock: That'd be one hell of a chopper ride! With three or four rc's strapped to my back!

Glad I could help!:mrgreen:

boosted4lyf 08-31-2013 03:18 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 8-454 (Post 4461200)
:shock: That'd be one hell of a chopper ride! With three or four rc's strapped to my back!

Glad I could help!:mrgreen:

I miss my '72 alot. I was always told real men ride rigid

8-454 08-31-2013 04:48 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boosted4lyf (Post 4461210)
I miss my '72 alot. I was always told real men ride rigid

Rigids are where it's at!

What happened to yours?

boosted4lyf 08-31-2013 05:10 PM

Re: 8-454's Numero dos! My take on the Sucker Punch
 
I was going to go to war with my ex wife and the only option I had at the time to be able to get the lawyer fees was sell the bike. It sucked I miss that thing everyday, shifted on the right, paucho rigid 2up4out 16"apes. Ill dig up a picture of it.


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