cboggs' 5th D Sucker Punch

[MTRANGER]

Hmm? Was wondering about a sway bar...you guys just summed up my decision! Gotta build it first to run it and then work from there!


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[Solitaire]

Yeah, Darren, don't worry about a swaybar yet. If you decide on one later, I know of at least 3 used ones.

[cboggs]

Originally Posted by MTRANGER

Hmm? Was wondering about a sway bar...you guys just summed up my decision! Gotta build it first to run it and then work from there!


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That's the best way, know your car first then you can use the sway bar as a tuning tool for those times when it would be an advantage.

[MTRANGER]

Thanks guys! Been doing alot of head scratching to setup stance and links etc. Your thread has been a valuable reference!


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[cboggs]

Here's some pics from yesterdays comp, cars working much better without the sway bar. Nice to see it flexing and following the terrain again, now its time to work my my back to the top!

[Erik D_lux]

Looks great!

What springs were you running when you ran the sway bar?

[cboggs]

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux

Looks great!

What springs were you running when you ran the sway bar?

MRC silvers

[Erik D_lux]

Thats a pretty stiff spring. I can see why your car was not flexing when you add the sway bar and a stiffer spring like that.

The main idea behind the sway bar is to remove rate from the springs and then the sway bar adds rate. If you simply add the sway bar without swapping springs, youre not really getting any benefit at all, just a stiffer setup that wont let you flex.

Did you try softer springs? I use mini-T pinks and when I am in the furthest hole back on the sway bar arm, its too soft for sure. I personally would not use anything other than a pink or red mini-T rate.

[Erik D_lux]

I guess another way to put it is if that youre car works good with the setup you have right now, adding a sway bar will NOT help. So, if youre car is good now with silver MRC springs it was way, way to stiff with silver MRC springs and a sway bar.

If you get a sway bar, you will have to put softer springs on with the sway bar to get a similar feel for the car that you had before only now it will have other benefits.

[cboggs]

I see, maybe I'll play around in my spare time with some pinks and see if I like it. There was definitely some situations that the sway bar was a benefit.

[Erik D_lux]

I can see why you ditched it with that setup.

For sure try it again with softer springs. Not that I suggest it but I think you would be much closer if you ran no springs at all than those silvers. The whole idea behind the sway bar is being able to run softer springs on the shocks. This should take a lot of the bounce/hop out of the rear on climbs and not want to roll you over (like you found on downhills) in general.

[mammoth]

The rc bros springs are even softer if you need that. Just an FYI!

[Erik D_lux]

What is the rate on the RCbros and how did you check them?

[filotr14lsdude]

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux

What is the rate on the RCbros and how did you check them?

Spring rate is listed on there site

RcBros Light Shock Springs | RcBros Hobbies

Shock springs can often be one of the most important things to tune when it comes to rock crawling. We’ve taken the most commonly used shocks in our industry as a base standard and created something readily available with an affordable price.

Made in the USA these are precision wound and feature closed ends that have been ground flat for proper operation.

These match the standard height and diameter of the common Losi Mini-T rear springs with a spring rate of .83 LB/IN.

[cboggs]

I got 5th place today at Best of the West, good times!

[mammoth]

Good job Chris! Good luck today!

[cboggs]

Here's some pics from Best of the West...

[winnerone23]

You boys posting all these pics, Really makes me kick myself in the ass for missing this one!

Maybe the next one!

[Curcal]

It was one for the ages. And that only includes the crawling part. The after parties were awesome too!

[cboggs]

Well our season for this year is over, finished 2nd at the last comp and 3rd overall for the season. Cars been working really good since the last change and its been showing in the results. Here's some pics from the weekend...