Crawl's" Sucker Punch to a full on Boxer" build

[Crawllife]

One thing I must reiterate, this is truly the most advanced rig I've seen. I'm trying to keep the painted lid at 38-40 grams. That would basically make this 4 tires with feathers connecting them. This will be a new driving experience for me. Early last year, I was driving a pro with 9 oz of collective KW


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[Crawllife]

Originally Posted by winnerone23

Yeah, mine ran without knuck weight.. Believe I have video of that comp..

With the right setup, it's do able..

ECC might be easy on it, as it's mono, round, and rolly rock..

Mostly was just my thoughts on it, as that's where I started. The added weight.

Simply for bias and balance..

Skinny her up in the middle, proportion her out correctly in the front and the rear! ;)

Do you have standard, non drilled shifts as spares? I know I'd given you a set and I don't know that I'll need them. Just for piece of mind, will you have 2 new regulars in Alabama?



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[Crawllife]

More variables here. David from France made me the CCC curved links to try out. Don't know if testing will be sporty or pro


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[Crawllife]

New voodovers for the sporty. A huge thanks to EYD.


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[winnerone23]

Originally Posted by ClassiCutCustoms

Probably weight bias..... But I think weight off the rear has a similar affect as weight on the front ....... But more dramatic in some ways.. Yes they are different..... But think about it. It is part of the overall package.

This.. This was kinda my thoughts on my post..
But if the front is lessened and not the rear, it's a opposite effect..

If the front is dropped 3oz and the rear is only dropped .5oz.(just throwing numbers out) it will take away from the bias.

Originally Posted by Crawllife

Barry and I also go back n forth on KW. I'll take her out on the first run as is. I will have weights for sporty and pro with me at all times.
Bottom line is simple: I've always used weight. When both my trucks were about 3.3-3.5, an ounce to an ounce and a half was working good ( per side ). One thing I won't do is run a particular amount because someone " says" it's right.

I grew up on the dlux way of thought. 6oz per side type driving. It didn't work well for me. If this, the polar opposite doesn't grab and pull lines, some weight WILL go back on.

Agreed! I've never been much for a lot of knuckle weight. I don't think I own a base weight, that hasn't been cut/lightened.
All that weight seems overkill or to be hiding setup issues?

Originally Posted by Robbob

Everyone has their own style for sure. You do what you feel the ring needs for your driving. Im with ya on the 'run what everyone else is' thing. Doesn't happen for me but I tune differently then many here. Find the bias I want then work my links and shocks - something you don't hear enough people spending time with.

I like building a rig, driving it, tuning it, etc, without knuck weight.
Adjust geo to crawl correctly, then add weight to fit my style, wants, and needs..

Originally Posted by Crawllife

I just know that I seem to take rigs that people poke fun at and get them to defy gravity at times.

That's your throttle finger and that Nasty little HH 400! Lol..

You sure can get that girl to dance! ;)

[Crawllife]

I still need to know if you have non modded shifts dude.


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[winnerone23]

Originally Posted by Crawllife

I still need to know if you have non modded shifts dude.


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Non modded.. Like the shaft hole being bigger?
I believe I'm all down to 4mm.. Until I drill out the new set, for my super.

But I'll have spare wheels, that have Shift hubs on them, at ECC..

[Crawllife]

Originally Posted by winnerone23

Non modded.. Like the shaft hole being bigger?
I believe I'm all down to 4mm.. Until I drill out the new set, for my super.

But I'll have spare wheels, that have Shift hubs on them, at ECC..

Ok, I need some bone stock ones and it's too late to order. I may not need them. My slw's are rubbing by weight holders a bit on the sporty. If I can get them to work, I'm good. Yes, I have ones drilled for 6mm. My rears are 5mm. I hope I don't have to mod the 2 stock ones for those. We will see. 4mm shifts would be fine if I'm jammed up. Thanks


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[winnerone23]

They might be 5mm? Whatever stock size is, straight from BC-Brian.

I'm willing to bet, Brian would get them out and you would have them by Tuesday. Even if he shipped them tomm.

[ClassiCutCustoms]

Originally Posted by winnerone23

They might be 5mm? Whatever stock size is, straight from BC-Brian.

You are both talking about the same thing.... There is a 4 and a 5mm section on the inside to fit stock Axial axles. David has ones bored for 6mm axles and needs original ones.

[Crawllife]

Body's trimmed and ready to be masked


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[Crawllife]

Changed my mind. Wanted something different. A lot of fat removal to be done and shaping as well but I'm getting closer...


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[Crawllife]

Ok, all trimmed and ready for the rocks. Wheels and tires are next and it! I'll be hoping to get finished pics up by day's end.


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[pyranahryder]

nice body it true that chenge from the xiter but i will be curious of what the xiter with paint finish would look like so very nice build another time..continue your great work

[Crawllife]

Originally Posted by pyranahryder

nice body it true that chenge from the xiter but i will be curious of what the xiter with paint finish would look like so very nice build another time..continue your great work

I have an xciter cut and ready for paint but I owe some buds paint jobs first. I've never tried the beetle and have a big comp coming up next week. If I don't like it in Alabama, I'll start working on the xciter ASAP.


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[Crawllife]

Additional trimming. A full size beetle is more like a bear to trim and tech at the same time. I have a 1" flimsy piece that touches the drag in few situations. Beyond that, it's all freed up


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[Crawllife]

A bit of steering....


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[Crawllife]

Full ride hight

Compressed

Very happy with how she turned out. 10-3/4 up front and 10-1/4 out back. EYD voodovers for rubber and I'm waiting for my new wheels from CCC to finish her off


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[Crawllife]

This truck really impressed me this weekend. It was its first scratches and I was thrilled with its performance. As usual, I could have driven better but the rig was sound! Is like to thank CCC, creation fab and EYD for their continued support! I'd also like to thank beest and Barry B for the tuning help! What a killer weekend!


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[Beest]

Glad we could help bub. The boxer is an amazing rig. :-)