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02-18-2017, 10:05 PM | #21 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: williamsport
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| Re: Is this ESC okay to use?
Sporty is rockin aluminum knuckles and the CF slug holders. Pro rig runs, delrin knuckles with loaded dice(cut down to save weight) Why purple? Cause I bought the second hand and they came that way. Lol.. so I left it.. Sexo is running brass and so is my son's pro rig... Lol.. |
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02-18-2017, 10:23 PM | #22 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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For bombproof you can't get better than dlux knuckles that's for sure. My dice are fiber but the next step is to swap them onto the rental and put a full brass set on the main rig so I can add or subtract weight as needed, I cannot add more than I have now as I'm already running brass lower plates on the knuckles too. You're running scx knuckles on the pro rig right? How do you like the steering on it vs the sporty? I have 8* on the rental and scx on the main but I haven't ran them side by side enough to know if I like them or not. | |
02-18-2017, 10:43 PM | #23 | |
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But it depends on what your rear looks like and how much it weighs. (Yes, I'm laughing and still posted it) Umm.. I Really like the non 8° on the pro! I tried the non 8° on the sporty, I didn't like it. The 8° actually helps with steering, on a sporty.. IMO.. It's a trade off.. personal preference.. depends on drive style and setup. I don't like my rig to push, so I raise my rear uppers at the chassis. But with the non 8°, it didn't steer the same. It goes deeper then that tho. Like.. with the 8°, on a sporty, you can use it as a advantage, to grab a ledge.. With a pro, it doesn't matter, cause you have dig. Etc... | |
02-18-2017, 11:18 PM | #24 | |
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02-18-2017, 11:32 PM | #25 | |
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Of course I have pics but no build thread(s) on them since hush-hush bits and them being pretty basic otherwise. I figure if I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary why waste the bandwidth. I realize a fully loaded set of brass dice with a brass retainer is crazy overkill but I like options. I can always leave bits out or swap back and forth with the rental. I am running 2 of the tungsten weights on each rear corner since the rear was getting real light on decents. Super fancy holders, I know but I've got a 6' square sheet of 1/4" UHMW to work with so yea. I've played with vertical separation at the chassis and ended up with the links on both ends as separated as possible and liked it there. The latest experiment is in caster angle. I'm running maybe 5* on the scx c hubs and about 2* on the 8* c hubs. Seems to work, I do have to work around the shocks and links more without 20 degrees of castor though. | |
02-18-2017, 11:34 PM | #26 | |
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If you happen to re-read my post, I didn't offer any advice, bad or otherwise. I merely stated a fact and a personal preference. The OP can make up his own mind. Also, I like to support and mention the local vendors whenever I can. Now, it's very late in PA, so better grab your milk and cookies and go to bed before your mom takes away your XBox. | |
02-18-2017, 11:47 PM | #27 | |
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I agree^^^^^ Quote:
The OP already commented on reading brushed vs BL threads and decided against it. Personally, I would like to see your thread on a BL crawler. Or Anyones capable BL crawler. One that's competitive! Not some guys, that no one knows, that says "it's fine" or "OK".. Hell, how about you just post a link to your crawler built thread? Don't get me wrong. My scale rigs are BL and my TF2 is as smooth as running a brushed 16t Crawlmaster pro.. But it's not crawler worthy! I run BL cause I like to break shit! Scale is Fun.. And Yes, I have went to scale events and compete in scale comps and yes with podium finishes.. But your weekend warrior and keyboard tough guy act, is annoying! The knowledge on this thread, before you posted, would run circles around you! Put the, outside issues down and learn to be helpful without using your character defects. | |
02-18-2017, 11:57 PM | #28 | |
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Hmm.. maybe your link geo causes it ass end to be light.. front uppers, are my thought? But mine gets light too.. and I can't do anything about the geo. The rig is dialed! Like what's 2nd place, Dialed.. I like the 12° caster, area.. give or take a degree or 2.. depending on personal preference. 20° is way too much.. IMO.. | |
02-19-2017, 12:13 AM | #29 | |
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I like my ar60's but I'm looking to build something hybrid this spring using a different center section, likely scx10II. I'll likely end up dialing in some more caster but they still turn really nicely with 70* capabilities. | |
02-19-2017, 05:49 AM | #30 | ||
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| Re: Is this ESC okay to use? I don't know what that means. Quote:
You knock me for trying to belittle, which wasn't the intent of my post, you while belittling me. Oh the irony. Quote:
I will say I didn't realize this was an AX10 section. I'm not sure if any comp guys run brushless. But if you have tried brushless in a scale crawler you know that brushless can be almost equally smooth as brushed these days. There's no tough guy attitude. I explained my post. Your knowledge of comp crawlers would run circles around me. I wasn't responding to you. But it's pretty keyboard warrior-like to assume you know lots more than me. I've only been in RC for 30 years. | ||
02-19-2017, 07:08 AM | #31 | |
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At that point, your point of dialing. It depends on how and where your rear shocks are mounted.. (just for thought) I want to check the scxii axles out.. I think one on the rear, would be great! I wouldn't want any less, for a front axle. Less front axle, would cause other issues, behind the axle. | |
02-19-2017, 08:34 AM | #32 | |
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I run the rear links to the outside of the link mounts with the shocks insice the mounts on a common screw on one rig and the other has the shocks on the outside of the mounts and the link in it. I have many, many hours on the setup with the shocks out boarded and it is a very stable rig. I'm also running big bores with springs under the piston to slow the droop a bit and the normal outside springs too. I've found that setup to my liking over the scx shocks on the other rig for sure but they both work once you adjust your driving style. This is how the suspension is set up on what is now the rental. It's an unstuck chassis. Yes I knowI need smaller batteries and my tune will change when I put 500 mah 4s on the front axle but I have a pile of these 1300 4s packs and 30 minutes crawling at a time makes me smile. That old chopped up body off my xxt-cr is gone as soon as my wife finishes painting my exciter today. I needed a body and that filled the bill for a couple weeks. The scx10II axle has a 3.75:1 ratio I believe which makes for a deep underdrive even compared to scx/ar60 3.3 under drive gears. | |
02-19-2017, 05:43 PM | #33 | |
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Lmfao!!! It's Great, only having to buy a servo, Once!!! In my case, buying Used servos, Once! I just send them back, for the cost of shipping to Hitec, and receive a Working servo, back in the mail.. After that.. I was going to say.. A pic of the side of your chassis, so I can see the links and where they are mounted.. But I think you should give Robbob's thread a read. What he just posted, in the LCC section, will be exactly what I was going to suggest.. lower your front uppers, at the chassis.. But I'll let the student's post, teach you.. Baahahaha!!!! That sounds horrible! I wouldn't want that much under drive.. from a scxii axle. | |
02-19-2017, 06:39 PM | #34 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tri-cities, WA
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I've just had bad luck with Hitec servos. Will they warranty them? Sure but what good is something that wears out? Their gears are aluminum with Ti coating just like everyone else that says Ti gears. I run steel geared servos with full alloy cases so I don't have those issues. I've been half assed following that thread but I'll go back and start over paying more attention. I'm an information sponge and I take no shame in asking those that know more than myself, hence this thread hijack. Deeper gearing in the axles helps to mitigate torque twist but you're right that is a pretty large ratio split. Here is the rental mid assembly with the suspension set as it is now. | |
02-21-2017, 12:17 AM | #35 |
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Is the off topic bromance over yet? It's like two build threads in one. Depending on your budget, there are many esc options. Some people are true to certain brands and that's it. I've seen expensive name brand esc's go up in smoke a month after purchase, likewise I've seen cheap HW esc's last years with regular use. Tekin, Castle, Hobbywing and Holmes are likely the most commonly used crawler esc's for good reason. If you want a very inexpensive plug and play esc look at the brushed HW WP 1060 or 1080 (program card included) they are surprisingly smooth, reliable and easy to use with a very good drag brake for brushed motors. If you want to spend more and support American companies Tekin castle Holmes All these brands will offer more user adjustability, and similar reliability in the order listed. Brushed vs brushless (in a crawler). Brushed motors are the staple for crawling. If you must get brushless, get a sensored brushless. Normal brushless doesn't have the running characteristics a crawler needs. In general, brushed is best for low speed controllability and downhill drag brake. Brushless is for going fast. |
02-21-2017, 10:42 AM | #36 |
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| Re: Is this ESC okay to use?
This may sound like a sillly question but, does using all the same brands, such as Holmes for motor, ESC, servo, make the crawler work better? Or does that even matter?
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02-21-2017, 10:49 AM | #37 |
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Nope the only thing that matters is the quality of the parts.
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02-21-2017, 03:12 PM | #38 |
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Quality = warranty.. or quality + warranty.. If it costs more but has a warranty, that the company is known to stand behind, is with the extra money. IMO.. Crawler electronics live a Hard life! |
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