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666 · 10-15-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BENDER

Thanks. There are things that can be tweaked to make this rig perform even better. My shocks were a little too stiff in the video, same with the tire foams. Like Rubbaneck posted I have just under 3" of belly clearance right now.

I finally got a chance to weigh this rig today, weighed in at just a tick over 3.6 pounds.

I swapped out to my Axial beadlocks and added some weight to the wheels, and it still only weighs a hair over 4.3 pounds. I am going to try and give it another test run soon.

I did notice that I broke the upper link mount on the front axle too. It still works, but it is cracked.

Now that is a lightweight!!

My rear upper link mount is broke/cracked too, and I have not even crawled rocks yet.....

EeePee · 10-15-2007, 09:08 PM

I ran mine cracked for a while, and with the washer there it actually never completely let go.

BENDER · 10-15-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EeePee

I ran mine cracked for a while, and with the washer there it actually never completely let go.

Yeah, I threw the washers on when I built it up too. I don't think it'll be a big deal for now. I threw some fuel line in there too, to remove the little bit of slop the rod end had.

kid rock · 10-16-2007, 02:11 PM

how can i get one and how much?

BENDER · 10-16-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kid rock

how can i get one and how much?

If you're looking for the chassis, here's a link to my vendors thread.

Bender Customs SW3 Chassis...........

ACrawler2NV · 10-17-2007, 10:43 AM

The rig looks great, the video was cool, the only thing missing were the hot chicks. Maybe next time.

kaetwo · 10-17-2007, 09:37 PM

I dig the rig

I too have been playing with a lighter rig and it seems to work really well.

BENDER · 10-17-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ACrawler2NV

The rig looks great, the video was cool, the only thing missing were the hot chicks. Maybe next time.

I'm working on it.

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Originally Posted by kaetwo

I dig the rig

I too have been playing with a lighter rig and it seems to work really well.

Thanks man. I was surprised how good it worked at 3.6 pounds. Even with foams and shocks that were too stiff, it did 90% of the lines I can do with my SW3 TLT.

TURTLE · 10-17-2007, 11:35 PM

Where have I been?
Damn call me next time you go out there with this feather weight.

lt1wrangler · 10-18-2007, 06:18 AM

Nice looking rig!

kaetwo · 10-18-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BENDER

Thanks man. I was surprised how good it worked at 3.6 pounds. Even with foams and shocks that were too stiff, it did 90% of the lines I can do with my SW3 TLT.

It's funny but since running the lighter rig I've noticed a huge increase in side hilling. I've been able to pull lines that I never could before and I know it's not my driving. I still suck every bit as bad as I did before :-)

I think you mentioned that you noticed how the Losi tires performed better with a light rig and I think that's the key. Pinch's and my rigs are below 4 lbs and there running better than ever.

So if your making this rig for someone else, are there plans to run one yourself?

racerx · 10-18-2007, 10:45 AM

I ran my SW2 super light for over a year and had OK luck with it but I think it was due to the Moabs. When the Losi's came out Brad said they would be sweet for my rig and it looks like he was right! Too bad I am building an SW3 for the winter series and it is already heavier than my other rig and I don't even have a transmission mounted up yet!

Brad, I may have to hit you up for some lightening of my MSD wheels. I have a new part you may be interested in to... PM me for more info!

BENDER · 10-18-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kaetwo

It's funny but since running the lighter rig I've noticed a huge increase in side hilling. I've been able to pull lines that I never could before and I know it's not my driving. I still suck every bit as bad as I did before :-)

I think you mentioned that you noticed how the Losi tires performed better with a light rig and I think that's the key. Pinch's and my rigs are below 4 lbs and there running better than ever.

So if your making this rig for someone else, are there plans to run one yourself?

I noticed this rig sidehills with very little drama too. I may build one up for myself at some point. My TLT axles are still pretty much new, so I'll probably run them for a while before building another. I do want to pick-up another Axial tranny for my 2.2, it's a lot more compact and lighter then my Pede. I'll try to get some more testing in with this rig this weekend.

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Originally Posted by racerx

I ran my SW2 super light for over a year and had OK luck with it but I think it was due to the Moabs. When the Losi's came out Brad said they would be sweet for my rig and it looks like he was right! Too bad I am building an SW3 for the winter series and it is already heavier than my other rig and I don't even have a transmission mounted up yet!

Brad, I may have to hit you up for some lightening of my MSD wheels. I have a new part you may be interested in to... PM me for more info!

The Losi Rock Claws would have worked good on your fly weight SW2. I cut on my MSD wheels quite a bit, and they aren't much lighter now. It was helpful, but I was hoping it would have shed more weight then it did.

Sending you a PM now.

BENDER · 10-19-2007, 11:42 AM

I added a little weight to the wheels and it's performing a lot better now. Just adding a few ounces made a huge difference.

I also countersunk the tranny mounting holes and mounted the tranny with flathead screws, so the bottom is nice and smooth again.

kris · 10-21-2007, 12:15 AM

After driving this rig today I still can not belive how it side hills

I have a lot of TLT stuff that might be going away to make room for one of these. Awasome rig Brad you got the set up perfact

BENDER · 10-21-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kris

After driving this rig today I still can not belive how it side hills

I have a lot of TLT stuff that might be going away to make room for one of these. Awasome rig Brad you got the set up perfact

Thanks man, I'm really happy with how it turned out. I'm also surprised at the performance of it for weighing less then 4.5 pounds.

RWKXJ · 10-21-2007, 10:02 AM

Looks like a great combo, I have been thinking about getting these axles and tranny for the strength and clearance of the axles, also I like the idea of a really light rig...keep up the nice work!

hagass · 10-21-2007, 10:39 PM

So Bender which do you like the best tlt based comp rig or the ax-10 version .

BENDER · 10-21-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hagass

So Bender which do you like the best tlt based comp rig or the ax-10 version .

I love my SW3 TLT, but this SW3 AX10 is turning out to be a very capable rig, with very little tweaking. We had a few 2.2's out at a local crawl spot this weekend, and the AX10 SW3 did almost every obstacle my TLT based comp rig could with a shorter wheelbase. It's also a little lighter set-up then my 2.2 comp rig, which should be easier on parts. I may build one up for myself at some point. I'm sure with a little more testing it could be as capable as my rig, if not more.

BENDER · 10-27-2007, 09:36 AM

Turns out I had the wrong turnbuckles linked to the first post, I just edited it for the correct part number. You want Traxxas part #5538 (61mm Jato turnbuckles), not #5539 (58mm Jato turnbuckles) to use as lower links with the stock AX10 upper links. I also added the upper link chassis spacers for the stock chassis to the upper 3 link mounts, at the axle. Like the CKRC tech article on the front page. You can see the extra green spacer on the upper 3 link in the 7th pic. I had to use a longer M3 screw, but it stretches the wheelbase out to 12 1/2", instead of the shorter 12" wheelbase I started with.

10-19-2007, 11:42 AM	#74
BENDER 2006 2.2 National Champ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big Bear Lake Posts: 8,328	I added a little weight to the wheels and it's performing a lot better now. Just adding a few ounces made a huge difference. I also countersunk the tranny mounting holes and mounted the tranny with flathead screws, so the bottom is nice and smooth again. Last edited by BENDER; 10-19-2007 at 11:58 PM.

10-15-2007, 09:08 PM	#62
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	I ran mine cracked for a while, and with the washer there it actually never completely let go.

10-16-2007, 02:11 PM	#64
kid rock Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Looking for rock piles Posts: 204	how can i get one and how much?

10-17-2007, 10:43 AM	#66
ACrawler2NV Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In a false state of reality Posts: 4	The rig looks great, the video was cool, the only thing missing were the hot chicks. Maybe next time.

10-17-2007, 09:37 PM	#67
kaetwo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Whales Posts: 2,939	I dig the rig I too have been playing with a lighter rig and it seems to work really well.

10-17-2007, 11:35 PM	#69
TURTLE Gettin’ back on the horse Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hoonsville Posts: 6,671	Where have I been? Damn call me next time you go out there with this feather weight.

10-18-2007, 06:18 AM	#70
lt1wrangler Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Richmond Posts: 46	Nice looking rig!

10-18-2007, 10:45 AM	#72
racerx I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: R.I.P. Chip Posts: 2,024	I ran my SW2 super light for over a year and had OK luck with it but I think it was due to the Moabs. When the Losi's came out Brad said they would be sweet for my rig and it looks like he was right! Too bad I am building an SW3 for the winter series and it is already heavier than my other rig and I don't even have a transmission mounted up yet! Brad, I may have to hit you up for some lightening of my MSD wheels. I have a new part you may be interested in to... PM me for more info!

10-21-2007, 12:15 AM	#75
kris RCCRAWLER TEAM DRIVER Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Voiding warranties Posts: 418	After driving this rig today I still can not belive how it side hills I have a lot of TLT stuff that might be going away to make room for one of these. Awasome rig Brad you got the set up perfact

10-21-2007, 10:02 AM	#77
RWKXJ Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: RENO Posts: 34	Looks like a great combo, I have been thinking about getting these axles and tranny for the strength and clearance of the axles, also I like the idea of a really light rig...keep up the nice work!

10-21-2007, 10:39 PM	#78
hagass Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: australia Posts: 32	So Bender which do you like the best tlt based comp rig or the ax-10 version .

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10-27-2007, 09:36 AM	#80
BENDER 2006 2.2 National Champ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big Bear Lake Posts: 8,328	Turns out I had the wrong turnbuckles linked to the first post, I just edited it for the correct part number. You want Traxxas part #5538 (61mm Jato turnbuckles), not #5539 (58mm Jato turnbuckles) to use as lower links with the stock AX10 upper links. I also added the upper link chassis spacers for the stock chassis to the upper 3 link mounts, at the axle. Like the CKRC tech article on the front page. You can see the extra green spacer on the upper 3 link in the 7th pic. I had to use a longer M3 screw, but it stretches the wheelbase out to 12 1/2", instead of the shorter 12" wheelbase I started with.

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