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Old 10-27-2007, 02:24 AM   #1
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so today dhoffroad and myself went to our local crawl spot to practice for this weekends comp..

i noticed after about a half hour or so that my front right wheel didn't want to spin anymore..

at first glance it looked like the common hex stripping problem, but after i looked closer the hex was still doing its job and the axle was still turning with the wheel..

turns out the front locker on the passenger side stripped out and the slot for the axle is now round...

luckily for me, Corey at RPP just happend to have em in stock and my comp weekend will be saved.. (thanks corey)

i had removed the two screws on the front axle to give the steering more throw, but i really don't see that causing to much damage..

the drivers side of the locker looks brand new still.. very strange..

either way it sucked and until i talked to corey and found out he had em i was pretty bummed..

pics later tonight or early tomarrow...........

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Old 10-27-2007, 04:13 AM   #2
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drivers side


and then theres the passenger side..

notice all the torn up metal in it



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Old 10-27-2007, 05:56 AM   #3
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Wow man...

Put those 2 screws back in and buy the RCP knuckles (and C's if you want) they are better machined to give you best steering and don't come close to hitting the screws now.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:54 AM   #4
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cool man good to hear it was the locker and Corey did have some...

I was lookin at my rig after I got home and discoverd a hex that is almost stripped so I'm going to get ahold of Corey myself and see about getting some new wheels
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Nice! How long did that take?
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:30 AM   #6
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Great carnage...I have stripped 2 myself 1 within a month...
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:26 AM   #7
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Are all you guys running brushless setups?
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When you remove the “screws”, you allow the Rig to over-steer and bind the short axles. That is why it only strips out the locker on one side (your servo may turn a little more one way than the other, and/or wheel torque forced it too far).

This is the same problem that occurs with the drive-shafts at "stock" ride height.

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turns out the front locker on the passenger side stripped out and the slot for the axle is now round...

Exact same thing had happend to me too!! But mine was on the rear drivers side, and I didn't take my fasteners out of the hubs. I still really havn't figured out why that happend. I can't see any lateral movement in there. I think the locker isn't of same or like hardness as the axles.

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When you remove the “screws”, you allow the Rig to over-steer and bind the short axles. That is why it only strips out the locker on one side (your servo may turn a little more one way than the other, and/or wheel torque forced it too far).

This is the same problem that occurs with the drive-shafts at "stock" ride height.

I don't think so. It happend to the back of mine. I don't have rear steering.
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Nice! How long did that take?
i had the axle open last week and it was fine, so i'll say a week..

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nope, 55t integy.. used to run a crawlmaster but it was before i inspected it last week..

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When you remove the “screws”, you allow the Rig to over-steer and bind the short axles. That is why it only strips out the locker on one side (your servo may turn a little more one way than the other, and/or wheel torque forced it too far).
honestly, i think your on the right track..

i'm still not gonna run the screws though, i have a tq3 and with the screws in it'll bind up pretty good.(no epa's)..

the lockers are cheap enough to not care......
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Wow! Is the material to thin?? It looks so from the pics.
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honestly, i think your on the right track..

i'm still not gonna run the screws though, i have a tq3 and with the screws in it'll bind up pretty good.(no epa's)..

the lockers are cheap enough to not care......

How do you figure? I said that the same thing happend to mine in the REAR!
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got pics??? seems fishy..

now that i see it in my hands, i can tell what ninjato means..

with the screws removed and at full throw the axles do bind in the stubs and create a force on the axle that pulls it out of the locker a tiny bit..

obviously when that happens, the axle to locker conection is way smaller and the aluminum locker can't take it..

that coupled with the allready sloppy stock setup is all bad..

so with that info in mind, i say its due to the removal of the screws..

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ITs a locked diff somethings going to evenetually give since the left and right side are constantly fighting each other when turning. That locker needs to be make of steel. If it comes out in steel then the dog bones will be the next to where. But im sure this is the nature of the beast... I race touring cars and when we run spools and oneways high level of parts wear is normal....

Im starting to feel play in front and rear when i rotate the tires by hand back and forth,i can only imagine that my lockers are starting to wear... Im gonna find someone to make me steel units
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i'll stick with the lockers as my weak link..

their cheaper..
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i'll stick with the lockers as my weak link..

their cheaper..
Exactly. I'll stick with the aluminum lockers, but I hope they make new ones with tighter tolerances. That would at least slow down the wear.
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Guys to tighten this fit, simply wrap the axle in Aluminum foil and stick it in the locker.
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Old 10-27-2007, 07:37 PM   #19
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don't know if you guys notice that the dogbone moves back and forth so i put a rubber shock o-ring at the end of the dogbone and the inner cup of the axle.it forces the bogbone into the locker and i also shimmed the axle behind the pin and in front of the bearing.
and most of the slop is gone from the axle to the locker.

because at full steer my axle and dogbone where moving and the dogbone was falling into the slot on the axle causing the whole truck to pop each time the dogbone fell into the slot.
i thought it was a motor glitch and it wasn't.
hope this helps
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