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BASSPROKVD · 11-15-2007, 07:47 PM

I just got a ax-10 and was just wondering what the best of the best motor and speed control are for it. No matter the price???

2JSC · 11-15-2007, 07:48 PM

Mamba Maxx & Holmes Hobbies Crawlmaster

BASSPROKVD · 11-15-2007, 07:55 PM

Wondering If This Is A Good System To Buy?

mrpink · 11-15-2007, 08:18 PM

mamba max is dead on, you wont get many; if any arguements on that ESC for being the best. Outright winner.

Motor, well that is a different beast. It all depends on your driving style, crawling needs, and physical limitations (how big the motor can be, you are running a ax-10; not an issue here) More wheel speed, go BL. More low end control, go lathe.

One of the great things about the mamba maxx is you can try a bunch of different motors without changing the esc.

My suggestion. Mamba Maxx. 55t lathe. Save some money and spend it on a good radio setup and servo.

Kamikaze · 11-15-2007, 08:29 PM

If you are going to run a crawlmaster or any brushless go with the quark 33, hands down better that the mamba max.

jwilli2213 · 11-15-2007, 09:20 PM

rooster crawler and 55t integy motor works great never fails

jason · 11-15-2007, 09:37 PM

Mamba Maxx and 5 turn colbalt from Holmes Hobbies is what I run in mine. On 11.1 Lipo is is unbelievable. Bad thing is it heats up quick and I would only advise it's use in comp situations. For almost the same results but way longer run times you can bump up to the 10 turn colbalt from Holmes.

spidy · 11-16-2007, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jwilli2213

rooster crawler and 55t integy motor works great never fails

his is what im running and is foolproof for me...

JohnRobHolmes · 11-16-2007, 08:01 AM

All good options. The novak goat system aint bad either, lots of wheelspeed and low speed control.

BrandonW · 11-16-2007, 08:07 AM

brushed motors are too heavy for such a small rig. i would recommend a mamba max and a bm9 from tcs. i run this in my ax 10 with a 2 cell apogee lipo and it works awesome. and its extremely light:

http://www.tcscrawlers.com/product.p...cat=112&page=1

FrankyRizzo · 11-16-2007, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamikaze

If you are going to run a crawlmaster or any brushless go with the quark 33, hands down better that the mamba max.

X2!!!!!!

JohnRobHolmes · 11-16-2007, 08:26 AM

Too heavy? I run a 7 ounce brushed motor in mine and it handles great. Weight down low on the front axle cancels out the "heavy" motor and I get more power. Nothing wrong with a brushed motor.

legobrains · 11-16-2007, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamikaze

If you are going to run a crawlmaster or any brushless go with the quark 33, hands down better that the mamba max.

Why? is it because is is smooth at very low speeds, or less cogging?

The mamba seems attractive because you can program it on the Computer. Even when properly programed, you still think the quark is better? any Why?

(not being argumentative, I just want to hear your opinion. I have a quark 33 in my Trex Helicopter, and I was thinking whether I should get a mamba max for my crawler, or take the quark 33 out of the heli for the crawler, and replace the Trex with a castle creations phoenix 35.)

JohnRobHolmes · 11-16-2007, 08:46 AM

Compared to the current mamba max and mamba 25 software, the quark is much smoother and slower on startup. It is also quiet.

FrankyRizzo · 11-16-2007, 11:02 AM

I like it because you can program it without a PC. It is smoother in my opinion. I set mine to 100% initial torque and I have never had cogging or stall at all.

Grizzly4x4 · 11-16-2007, 11:46 AM

Mamba Maxx, 10 turn Cobalt Puller from Holmes Hobbies, and 8-9 2/3A cells or 11.1V LiPo.

No better combination for butter smooth throttle control with excellent wheelspeed.

JohnRobHolmes · 11-16-2007, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankyRizzo

I like it because you can program it without a PC. It is smoother in my opinion. I set mine to 100% initial torque and I have never had cogging or stall at all.

The mamba controllers dont need a PC either, they are stick programmable too.

goslo · 11-16-2007, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes

All good options. The novak goat system aint bad either, lots of wheelspeed and low speed control.

Holmes is right, The novak goat brushless system never fails to impress, I've also found the reverse delay and drag brakes especially helpful in competitions.

Highmark · 11-16-2007, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noob_superman

brushed motors are too heavy for such a small rig. i would recommend a mamba max and a bm9 from tcs. i run this in my ax 10 with a 2 cell apogee lipo and it works awesome. and its extremely light:

http://www.tcscrawlers.com/product.p...cat=112&page=1

That's why both Gatekeeper (2.2 national /West Coast/ SERCRC seasonal champ ) and Rx Crawler (mid west champ) run brushed motors.

They're so heavy!

JohnRobHolmes · 11-16-2007, 12:55 PM

RX crawler used fatty Crawlmaster BL outrunners in his clod with quark ESCs. I didn't even know he was running brushless till he told me.

11-15-2007, 07:47 PM	#1
BASSPROKVD Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Green Bay Posts: 32	Whats The Best Option For Motor And Speed Control For The Ax-10? Price Is No Option!! I just got a ax-10 and was just wondering what the best of the best motor and speed control are for it. No matter the price???

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BASSPROKVD Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Green Bay Posts: 32	novak goat crawler system GOOD OR BAD?? Wondering If This Is A Good System To Buy?

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11-15-2007, 07:48 PM	#2
2JSC I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: FOUR 8 OH Posts: 4,912	Mamba Maxx & Holmes Hobbies Crawlmaster

11-15-2007, 08:18 PM	#4
mrpink RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: trying to find out what a TVuPer is..... Posts: 1,851	mamba max is dead on, you wont get many; if any arguements on that ESC for being the best. Outright winner. Motor, well that is a different beast. It all depends on your driving style, crawling needs, and physical limitations (how big the motor can be, you are running a ax-10; not an issue here) More wheel speed, go BL. More low end control, go lathe. One of the great things about the mamba maxx is you can try a bunch of different motors without changing the esc. My suggestion. Mamba Maxx. 55t lathe. Save some money and spend it on a good radio setup and servo.

11-15-2007, 08:29 PM	#5
Kamikaze I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 6,154	If you are going to run a crawlmaster or any brushless go with the quark 33, hands down better that the mamba max.

11-15-2007, 09:20 PM	#6
jwilli2213 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: vista - san diego Posts: 200	rooster crawler and 55t integy motor works great never fails

11-15-2007, 09:37 PM	#7
jason R.I.P. Chip Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Crawler State Posts: 13,938	Mamba Maxx and 5 turn colbalt from Holmes Hobbies is what I run in mine. On 11.1 Lipo is is unbelievable. Bad thing is it heats up quick and I would only advise it's use in comp situations. For almost the same results but way longer run times you can bump up to the 10 turn colbalt from Holmes.

11-16-2007, 08:01 AM	#9
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	All good options. The novak goat system aint bad either, lots of wheelspeed and low speed control.

11-16-2007, 08:07 AM	#10
BrandonW RCC Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,043	brushed motors are too heavy for such a small rig. i would recommend a mamba max and a bm9 from tcs. i run this in my ax 10 with a 2 cell apogee lipo and it works awesome. and its extremely light: http://www.tcscrawlers.com/product.p...cat=112&page=1

11-16-2007, 08:26 AM	#12
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Too heavy? I run a 7 ounce brushed motor in mine and it handles great. Weight down low on the front axle cancels out the "heavy" motor and I get more power. Nothing wrong with a brushed motor.

11-16-2007, 08:46 AM	#14
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Compared to the current mamba max and mamba 25 software, the quark is much smoother and slower on startup. It is also quiet.

11-16-2007, 11:02 AM	#15
FrankyRizzo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vegas Posts: 7,172	I like it because you can program it without a PC. It is smoother in my opinion. I set mine to 100% initial torque and I have never had cogging or stall at all.

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11-16-2007, 11:46 AM	#16
Grizzly4x4 PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler Posts: 13,137	Mamba Maxx, 10 turn Cobalt Puller from Holmes Hobbies, and 8-9 2/3A cells or 11.1V LiPo. No better combination for butter smooth throttle control with excellent wheelspeed.

11-16-2007, 12:55 PM	#20
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	RX crawler used fatty Crawlmaster BL outrunners in his clod with quark ESCs. I didn't even know he was running brushless till he told me.

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