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toy boy 11-21-2007 09:08 PM

softer springs
 
Has anyone tried the softer springs?

colonelangus 11-21-2007 09:18 PM

softer springs
 
i have not tried them yet ,but i pulled the lower spring perches out just to see what it would be like with softer springs .with the so called stage 3 mods they only use soft hpi\axial springs in the front.well im sold i ordered 2 sets of soft and 1 set of med .im going with softer in front and rear.the supplied superfirm are just over kill .imo

doctorducttape 11-21-2007 09:55 PM

i'm running the hpi yellows up front and love it
the axial reds are close but if your going to change the rear i'd try the whites they are softer but still stiff enough to not flop arun

toy boy 11-21-2007 09:57 PM

did yo try med in the rear? Is the front soft or super soft?

toyofast 11-21-2007 11:09 PM

You guys really trying to use softer springs than the stock ones? Why? The stock ones are way to soft as it is.

Nitro Herb 11-22-2007 07:57 AM

the stock ones are firm and bouncy feeling im gonna pick up a set of soft and mediums to play around with

toy boy 11-22-2007 08:50 AM

the super soft for the front but what do you recomed for the rear?

xgerstandtx 11-22-2007 09:11 AM

i run losi whites up front 80wt oil stock rear with 30/35wt and love it flexes great and has nice control

binaryterror 11-22-2007 09:15 AM

30wt all around in mine. I put the outer rubber bump stop spacer under the piston inside the shock.

Front Springs: Losi Yellows
Rear Springs: Duratrax Evader ST Yellow Rears (barely stiffer than the Losi Yellows, but a tad longer)

cartronicshn 11-22-2007 09:15 AM

I shortened my stock axial shocks and put wheely king springs on it, they seem to be working great for me.

CHEEZBURGER 11-22-2007 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartronicshn (Post 932531)
I shortened my stock axial shocks and put wheely king springs on it, they seem to be working great for me.

+1"thumbsup"

toy boy 11-22-2007 01:47 PM

im ordering run full soft I see wat I like. I will report.

kulangflow 12-05-2007 12:55 PM

For those of you using the losi springs, are you adding spacers to account for the difference in height from stock?

When mine is sitting still, everything looks great and lines up nicely. If you lift the truck and the shocks extend, the springs are loose and sloppy because they're not long enough. I do have the bump stop on the inside of the shock body.

Ideas?

binaryterror 12-05-2007 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kulangflow (Post 950460)
For those of you using the losi springs, are you adding spacers to account for the difference in height from stock?

When mine is sitting still, everything looks great and lines up nicely. If you lift the truck and the shocks extend, the springs are loose and sloppy because they're not long enough. I do have the bump stop on the inside of the shock body.

Ideas?

Lower is better...Lower Center Of Gravity. Anything over 3" Belly clearance is likely too much. I run between 2.5" and 2.75" on my AX-10 Chassis with stock shocks (rubber bumpers inside) and with Losi springs. If you want to gain more height you can add spacer, but then it also depends on the height of those bumpers inside as they are limiting.

Run TMAXX lower spring cups, they hold the Losi springs tighter at the bottom so they don't flop around when the spring isn't loaded with weight.

JUSTGOINGSLOW 12-05-2007 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kulangflow (Post 950460)
For those of you using the losi springs, are you adding spacers to account for the difference in height from stock?

When mine is sitting still, everything looks great and lines up nicely. If you lift the truck and the shocks extend, the springs are loose and sloppy because they're not long enough. I do have the bump stop on the inside of the shock body.

Ideas?

I run the losi springs white fronts and yellow rears with 30wt oil all around and I just use the stock pre-load spacers till at full suspension you have tension on the spring

kulangflow 12-06-2007 05:34 AM

Excellent advise from both of you.

I started with 2.25" belly clearance. I added a single spacer on each shock with an additional small spacer in the left rear for anti-torque-twist. This brought me up to 2.5" belly clearance and significantly less slopiness at full shock extension.

I'll pick up some t-maxx lower spring cups also.

Thank you!

Natedog 12-22-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binaryterror (Post 950477)
...Run TMAXX lower spring cups, they hold the Losi springs tighter at the bottom so they don't flop around when the spring isn't loaded with weight.

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RPM spring cups are taller than the stock Axials so that can help with the spring tension adjustment without needing to use spring spacers up top.

http://www.rpmrcproducts.com/product...xxPts.htm#cups

Lower Spring Cups
Lower Spring Cups - fit most Traxxas shocksOur spring cups hold the base of the shock spring in place better than the stock parts and, because of our killer material, also tend to stay cleaner. In addition, coupled with the above mentioned spring clips, anyone can add a whole new dimension of color to their T-Maxx or E-Maxx! Nothing looks better than a complete suspension set-up dressed up with RPM team colors! RPM spring cups are available in Bold Black, Blue, Yellow, or Purple!

Tech Note: RPM Lower Spring Cups are sold in sets of four parts per package. Two packages will be needed to complete one complete T/E-Maxx with eight shocks.
73152 Lower Spring Cups for most Losi & Traxxas Shocks - Black
73155 Lower Spring Cups for most Losi & Traxxas Shocks - Blue
73157 Lower Spring Cups for most Losi & Traxxas Shocks - Yellow
73158 Lower Spring Cups for most Losi & Traxxas Shocks - Purple

Suggested Retail $2.95 / set of four
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Axial Spring rates and color codes, from the instruction manual:

AX30213 Super Soft (Red)
AX30214 Soft (WHite)
AX30215 Medium (Green)
AX30216 Firm (Yellow)
AX30217 Super Firm (Blue)

Any updates after trying the different springs?

roninwarrior555 12-22-2007 04:26 PM

i put LOSI green's on the front and the stock super firm on the back and she does evey trick i tell er to......

Teapot 01-01-2008 11:24 PM

Does anyone have any input yet with the softer axial springs yet or will I just have to pick up a set of the reds and see for myself? I'm not sure if I'm wanting super soft (red) or if medium (green) would do. I was hoping to hear some feedback first.

As it's sitting, the stock springs (super firm/blue), even without oil in my shocks...are way too stiff for my liking.

I've tried some uncut HPI springs (too long), and I honestly don't really like how they sit (They're .4 mm wider in diameter and 24?mm longer).

ScorpioCrawler 01-01-2008 11:28 PM

I run the softs (white) in the front and the stockj blues in the rear works great"thumbsup" rears still a lil stiff for my liking


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