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09-07-2022, 09:57 AM | #1 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Central Florida
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| Hybrid Capra Advice needed
So I'm looking to pick up a Capra builders kit. I want to do the RC4WD Blazer body. Did some searching but didn't find much in the way of info. So I guess I'll need to do a hybrid build to fit a hardbody. What are my best options for frame rails? Cantilever suspension is a possibility on this build for the bed clearance on the hardbody. I will also be keeping it with 1.9 wheels. I would prefer to go with metal frame rails, but that isn't set in stone as of yet. I already have a TF2 for a leaf spring rig, and after test driving a Capra, it has cemented the Capra as my next purchase, but I'm not digging the cage "body". Thanks in advance! -RC Perspective |
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09-07-2022, 01:16 PM | #2 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: SOCAL
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| Re: Hybrid Capra Advice needed
i think you might be forgetting the wider track that the capra axels have ... might stick out way to far for a unmolested RC4WD blazer body... it can def work by the wheel choice and some trimming but not many options that can keep the portals tucked in the wheels. Sounds like a cool project. why not give it a shot.
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09-07-2022, 05:16 PM | #3 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: in the Canyon
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| Re: Hybrid Capra Advice needed
This is one I want to follow, because it's the sort of "this is going to take a whole lotta work" type of project that I enjoy (I'm midway through getting a Vanquish Origin body onto an Artful Dodgers GroundFox) Having already built my own custom Capra, I can tell you you've got a job ahead of you. I just wanna see that 3lb body sitting on F9 axles. The CG is gonna be ridiculous. |
09-07-2022, 06:51 PM | #4 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Humboldt county
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| Re: Hybrid Capra Advice needed
Yeah the width of the Capra axles will be a challenge. Its hard enough tucking AR44's under fenders for a scale look let alone wider Capra axles. Team Garage Hack Capra wheels might be the best bet for the narrowest wheels. You might also consider not getting a Capra kit and instead getting a scale crawler kit of some sort and just swapping the Capra axles over to it. OR.... watch some Moon buggy videos so you can form an understanding of why the "cage". It may change your mind possibly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAOpMpX55Vc |
09-07-2022, 10:43 PM | #5 | |||
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Oh look, Another TF2 build thread...... (Watch me transform a used ebay TF2) The Capra build doesn't necessarily have to be scale, but I love the platform. I know that platform will change with the type of build I have in mind. I like to design, build, tinker and figure out how to make stuff work that probably shouldn't Thanks for the input! -RC Perspective | |||
09-08-2022, 01:11 AM | #6 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: The Big Island
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| Re: Hybrid Capra Advice needed
I personally like the idea, but I will say for simplicity’s sake going to a frame rail with Capra axles rather than a cage will be a lot better imo. mounting the blazer body alone to me is enough reason to go to a frame rail style chassis, unless you were going to make cage side panels out of the blazer than obviously keep the cage, but for a full body a regular c channel or flat rail may be the best bet. Either way I look forward to seeing this come together when you get to it. |
09-08-2022, 08:48 AM | #7 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: california under the rock im crawling on
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| Re: Hybrid Capra Advice needed
a bit of advice with a build like this dont buy a kit just buy what you need and what upgrades you want you save money in the long run and for the whocares the capra is a scale copy of a 1:1 we rock buggie |
09-08-2022, 09:55 AM | #8 | ||
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Yeah it being made after a rock buggy will make some extra work for sure. I'm down for the challenge though. This build will certainly take some planning. Which will almost require having the full Capra kit to compare to. Nice input guys! Keep it coming! -RC Perspective | ||
09-08-2022, 11:50 AM | #9 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: california under the rock im crawling on
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| Re: Hybrid Capra Advice needed nope you spend way more cause your gona have to replace all the stock parts eventualy anyway and you can build a way better rig for less than a kit + upgrades
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09-08-2022, 01:00 PM | #10 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Corvallis, OR
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| Re: Hybrid Capra Advice needed
Personally I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around a Capra axle based rc4wd blazer build… but maybe that’s just lack of imagination on my part. Irrelevant to chassis choice, but what size tire are you picturing on this rig? Also, are you planning to run servo on axle/4 link, or convert to cms/panhard? Either way is possible, with soa being the most straight forward choice. Do you have a preference for c-channel or flat rail chassis? I can think up legitimate arguments for a 10.2 chassis, element chassis, vs410 chassis, g-speed/TGH chassis, etc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
09-08-2022, 09:25 PM | #11 | ||
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Besides, who doesn't like having extras when you start upgrading? Quote:
Servo on axle, and most likely c-channel rails. Which would most likely lean me towards the 10.2. The Capra is something else though, and I'm dead set on starting with one. Haven't fully thought of the tire size yet, though leaning towards smaller diameter 1.9s. Thanks for the input! -RC Perspective | ||
09-08-2022, 11:05 PM | #12 |
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| Re: Hybrid Capra Advice needed
For what it’s worth I did a Capra axle swap on a vs4-10 chassis kit quite some time ago. It was a really fun build, I believe I used the Capra skid with minor trimming but the only problem with that is wheel base. The rc4wd blazer is about 11.3-11.4” and that truck sat around 12.5” same as a Capra. I think it’s definitely possible, but if you’re after more of a performance truck maybe a clod buster body is more up your alley? With some work they can be pretty sweet looking and if you want the blazer look you could probably build or 3D print some sort of camper shell. Regardless of what you end up doing, I look forward to seeing it. Myself, I’ve been wanting to and eventually will be buying an ssd trail king and adding a rc4wd blazer body. Ideally I’d be swapping to twistedfabco leaf springs also. But that may be for another project. Keep us posted! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
09-09-2022, 06:56 AM | #13 | |
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Capra axles are tricky unless you are buying complete knock off axles from eBay or Amazon. If you build them piece by piece you’ll have $200-$300 in axles alone, and personally I don’t see them for sale complete very often. As of a month ago nobody had the good universals or front housings in stock anyway. At least with buying the kit you’ll get complete axles and a good set of driveshafts. And the fun of putting the kit together if you want. Personally I would go with the 10.2, or a vs410 chassis. Lots of vp chassis floating around with people parting out Phoenix kits. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | |
09-09-2022, 08:18 AM | #14 | ||
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I'm sure I'll have to upgrade to metal housings to keep the COG low once I get a hardbody on it, but that stage isn't even close yet. So I'll pick up the Capra kit at some point soon, and work from there. I'm thinking 10.2/Capra hybrid at this point. I like the dig and the portals, so I'm wanting to use pretty much everything but the cage/frame of the Capra. I don't think the hardbody will look TOO terrible on the wider axles, but what I do to the hardbody will depend on how it all comes together. Thanks again guys! -RC Perspective | ||
09-09-2022, 08:22 AM | #15 | ||||
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: california under the rock im crawling on
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thats about all you get are drive shafts and some universal shafts every thing else will need upgrades the axle still have sintared gears and week plastic axle housings week chubs and week knuckles so you end up upgrading axle housings the gears the hubs the knuckles anyway so really with the kit you get good driveshafts and a clunky transmission with bad gearing the 3gear with dig is a much better transmission with better gearing and there smoother and cheaper so thats what i would go with Quote:
thats about right but you wont ever have to worry about your axles cause thats hardened steel gears metal housings and chubs and knuckles and you can substatue brass for the aluminum parts if you want to for only a few dollers more the axles are the hart of the rig Quote:
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the trx4 chassie dosent look as good but the geomitry of the chassie is so much better the lower skid makes for a much better center of gravity and suspention link geomitry is better the vs410 looks alot like the trx4 chassie but its a bit smaller and a bit more scale making it a great choice for a custom build good looks and good link geomitry since the only really usable part of the kit is some shafts and maybe some tires i dont know if the kit comes with tires or not but if it dose there most likely r35 compound and in my opinion are decent tires i dont see any reason to buy the kit i just finnished a bit by bit parts build of a 10ii/redcat and with the cost of the parts i havent got yet its gona come in around 250 if i were to rebuy the parts i had on hand already it would be around 300 but a 10ii rtr is almost 400 now and if i went with the stock redcat gen7 pro there what 280 now so i build a fully upgraded 10ii with lcg chassie metal axles aluminum 3gear trans aluminum wheels brand new tires and nice interally sprung shocks metal driveshafts and stainless steel links for about 300 so if i went with ether a 10ii rtr or kit or even a redcat gen7 by the time i bought upgrade parts i would have been in the 500 range easy basicly if your doing a custom build you save money by peicing it together with quality parts and your less likely to have down time from broken parts Last edited by ferp420; 09-09-2022 at 08:27 AM. | ||||
09-09-2022, 09:04 AM | #16 | ||
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The more I think about it, the more I really want to see what you come up with. I look forward to seeing it. Quote:
Good point, while the ring and pinion are machined, the portal gears are sintered aren’t they? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | ||
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