question for Unimoger about my build

[Rathgar]

Trying too put a hilift tranny in rig for the big event.Problem is im also going too run a winch.Cant afford too go too a 4 channel pistol grip just yet.Was going too wire in a 2 way switch that would move the signal from reciever between winch servo and tranny servo.So too us my winch i would have too unhook cable from rig and flip switch next too winch on front of rig.Is this going too be alright.then when i was done winching i would wind in cable and turn switch.Thanks Dan

[Unimoger]

Originally Posted by Rathgar

Trying too put a hilift tranny in rig for the big event.Problem is im also going too run a winch.Cant afford too go too a 4 channel pistol grip just yet.Was going too wire in a 2 way switch that would move the signal from reciever between winch servo and tranny servo.So too us my winch i would have too unhook cable from rig and flip switch next too winch on front of rig.Is this going too be alright.then when i was done winching i would wind in cable and turn switch.Thanks Dan

you will receive a touch or repair penalty each time to touch your rig, other than that, it is fine.

[CCFBERG]

Originally Posted by Rathgar

Trying too put a hilift tranny in rig for the big event.Problem is im also going too run a winch.Cant afford too go too a 4 channel pistol grip just yet.Was going too wire in a 2 way switch that would move the signal from reciever between winch servo and tranny servo.So too us my winch i would have too unhook cable from rig and flip switch next too winch on front of rig.Is this going too be alright.then when i was done winching i would wind in cable and turn switch.Thanks Dan

make a hand held switch unit just like the real winches have (trigger) with a three way switch (out/N/in) cross the wire terminals on one side to get reverse pwr. , keep it in your pocket, when you need to winch out, pull it out and plug it in and waaaalla you got winch power/control. You will have to run power to the plug but thats simple its just 4 wires to a 4 prong plug like a deans 4 pin female on the rig and a 4 pin on the trigger. It is a scale comp so I dont see whay this would be illegal and pointable........you have to touch your rig to get the winch hook so............plug in the trigger at the same time. Im not the point boss though so you will have to ask Unimog about that. But it seems to me this would be ok.


Edit: maybe its six wires id have to draw it out but still very easy to do!

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by Unimoger

you will receive a touch or repair penalty each time to touch your rig, other than that, it is fine.

Bummer. I guess with the big prizes at stake the rules need to get a little more strict. Guess I won't be shifting into 2nd gear.

[THnCS]

Originally Posted by CCFBERG

make a hand held switch unit just like the real winches have (trigger) with a three way switch (out/N/in) cross the wire terminals on one side to get reverse pwr. , keep it in your pocket, when you need to winch out, pull it out and plug it in and waaaalla you got winch power/control. You will have to run power to the plug but thats simple its just 4 wires to a 4 prong plug like a deans 4 pin female on the rig and a 4 pin on the trigger. It is a scale comp so I dont see whay this would be illegal and pointable........you have to touch your rig to get the winch hook so............plug in the trigger at the same time. Im not the point boss though so you will have to ask Unimog about that. But it seems to me this would be ok.


Edit: maybe its six wires id have to draw it out but still very easy to do!

This was the same thinking we had with Rathgars switch idea. In a real rig you have to plug the winch controls in when you want to use it. Thought it would be easier with the switch on the truck. You have to touch the truck to get your winch cable, and another to hook up the controls. I really don't see the difference in a switch on the rig or having seperate controls to plug in like CCFBERG suggested. Just a cheaper route than dropping $400-500 on a 4 channel radio!!!

Could we go ghetto and have a 2nd cotroller in hand that controls just the winch? I saw a picture of a kid doing it in another thread He had one controller taped to the bottom of another!

[jason]

Originally Posted by Unimoger

you will receive a touch or repair penalty each time to touch your rig, other than that, it is fine.

So you get a touch penalty when you reach down and grab your winch hook, or if you flip a switch while you do it?

[miniwheeler]

Im with Jason on this one. It shouldnt matter if you turn on the winch when you grab the cable to make a recovery.

[CCFBERG]

Originally Posted by jason

So you get a touch penalty when you reach down and grab your winch hook, or if you flip a switch while you do it?

Thats the way that Im understanding it! But if they are pointing the winch OPP then it should be only one point for the entire opperation (grabbing cable, selecting in or out with a truck mounted switch, hooking up a remote trigger, ect, ect. The whole opperation from start to finnish (hook stowed) should only be one point. But like I said Im not the point BOSS

[CCFBERG]

Originally Posted by THnCS

This was the same thinking we had with Rathgars switch idea. In a real rig you have to plug the winch controls in when you want to use it. Thought it would be easier with the switch on the truck. You have to touch the truck to get your winch cable, and another to hook up the controls. I really don't see the difference in a switch on the rig or having seperate controls to plug in like CCFBERG suggested. Just a cheaper route than dropping $400-500 on a 4 channel radio!!!

Could we go ghetto and have a 2nd cotroller in hand that controls just the winch? I saw a picture of a kid doing it in another thread He had one controller taped to the bottom of another!

you could use one of those 2 channle setups for the cheep rc planes, gut it and make its own smaller case, velcrow it to your radio and then you have a wireless winch control.

[Unimoger]

Originally Posted by jason

So you get a touch penalty when you reach down and grab your winch hook, or if you flip a switch while you do it?

If you grab your winch hook and pull out your winch cable, no penalty.

If you reach down and turn on your winch on your rig like Griz did last year, no penalty.

If you reach down, unhook some plugs and wires and move some switches, re hook the wires and use your winch, you are getting a touch penalty.

his post was not clear, sorry about that.

[braceysdad]

Originally Posted by Unimoger

If you grab your winch hook and pull out your winch cable, no penalty.

If you reach down and turn on your winch on your rig like Griz did last year, no penalty.

If you reach down, unhook some plugs and wires and move some switches, re hook the wires and use your winch, you are getting a touch penalty.

his post was not clear, sorry about that.

Then you do the Hooky Pooky and you turn yourself around, cause that's what it's all about?

[madhatter]

Since we're talking touch penalties....What if you have to beat your bumper off your tires? :-P

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by Unimoger

If you grab your winch hook and pull out your winch cable, no penalty.

If you reach down and turn on your winch on your rig like Griz did last year, no penalty.

If you reach down, unhook some plugs and wires and move some switches, re hook the wires and use your winch, you are getting a touch penalty.

his post was not clear, sorry about that.

Cool, glad to hear that Ben. If he can switch to the winch with a single flip of the switch, that seems fair to be unpenalized.

Originally Posted by madhatter

Since we're talking touch penalties....What if you have to beat your bumper off your tires? :-P

I say that if you use a scale 2 lb BFH to do it then it should be un-penalized.

[madhatter]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

I say that if you use a scale 2 lb BFH to do it then it should be un-penalized.

Guess I'd better track a BFH down!

[CCFBERG]

Ive been trying to figure out a way to turn power off to the winch through my radio. Im using a JR 9303 (9ch) I can change all kinds of thigs on there but havent figured out how to disable a control with the flip of a switch. Im using the throttle stick for my winch control so if someone has an idea how to disable it untill I need it with the flip of a switch (within) the radio setting itself, please let me know!!! I will still run it the way it is but the rudder control stick (also throt/winch) is my steering and elevator stick is forward/reverse for the crawler, for now I may change thigs around but this is how its set up for the moment. Anyway any ideas would be nice!

[slobin3d]

Originally Posted by CCFBERG

Ive been trying to figure out a way to turn power off to the winch through my radio. Im using a JR 9303 (9ch) I can change all kinds of thigs on there but havent figured out how to disable a control with the flip of a switch. Im using the throttle stick for my winch control so if someone has an idea how to disable it untill I need it with the flip of a switch (within) the radio setting itself, please let me know!!! I will still run it the way it is but the rudder control stick (also throt/winch) is my steering and elevator stick is forward/reverse for the crawler, for now I may change thigs around but this is how its set up for the moment. Anyway any ideas would be nice!

use the throttle cut option, in heli or plane mode. It's used to kill the engine on a plane I'm sure it would work for what you want

[Rathgar]

thanks for the help.my plan was just a single switch mounted too vehichle that when flipped one way it would kill the winch and power my tranny.then when switched the other way it would power the winch and kill control of tranny.in and out operation will still be controled by transmitter.if i can get it to work sounds like ill be ok.if i cant then i guess ill just lock tranny out.dan

[exesivefire]

Originally Posted by CCFBERG

Ive been trying to figure out a way to turn power off to the winch through my radio. Im using a JR 9303 (9ch) I can change all kinds of thigs on there but havent figured out how to disable a control with the flip of a switch. Im using the throttle stick for my winch control so if someone has an idea how to disable it untill I need it with the flip of a switch (within) the radio setting itself, please let me know!!! I will still run it the way it is but the rudder control stick (also throt/winch) is my steering and elevator stick is forward/reverse for the crawler, for now I may change thigs around but this is how its set up for the moment. Anyway any ideas would be nice!

Arent aleron switches on the top of the radio a 2 way control? hook up a micro switch on your winch power wire in open loop, and use an extra channel to control a micro servo to hit the switch and close the loop?

[CCFBERG]

Originally Posted by slobin3d

use the throttle cut option, in heli or plane mode. It's used to kill the engine on a plane I'm sure it would work for what you want

Well Ive been looking for it but i cant find it! I know its there someplace cause I do fly planes also but this radio has a million and 1 settings

I will look for it again tonight but ya I thought about that and thats why im asking the question cause I cant find it so I though that maybe would have to find another setting that would disable it. Thanks for the advice man!

[CCFBERG]

Originally Posted by exesivefire

Arent aleron switches on the top of the radio a 2 way control? hook up a micro switch on your winch power wire in open loop, and use an extra channel to control a micro servo to hit the switch and close the loop?

Thought about this as well but want to try and keep from packing another servo. if all else fails I will do this. Or maybe even just make a lockout plate for my radio.