OStewart's British Bomber

[Jboucher]

If it helps your case, i'm about to use CI double deuce 6.0 in my Goodyear wrangler MT/R and they are 5.63inch.

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[ostewart]

Originally Posted by Jboucher

If it helps your case, i'm about to use CI double deuce 6.0 in my Goodyear wrangler MT/R and they are 5.63inch.

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Cheers, I did think about it but went with single stage as I plan on making this more basher that is fairly good at crawling. Single stage with a heavy bomber works fine, and the growlers are super sticky on the rocks.

[ostewart]

Current list of what it is running (started as a RTR):

VP Currie Antirock V2 sway bar
VP aluminium trailing arms
VP one piece servo mount
Incision stainless links all round
Incision HD AR60 gears (stock ratio)
Incision spools
Incision motor mount and cam
Axial Universal front shafts
Chinese 2.2 beadlocks
Pit Bull Growler 2.2
Crawler Innovations deuces wild tall
DMG rear wheel relocation kit
Xtra speed stainless beef tubes

Electrics:
Savox SA-1283SG
Castle Mamba X ESC
Castle BEC
Holmes Trailmaster BL Pro 3300kv

Shocks are stock, 20wt front, 30wt rear.

[ostewart]

Mamba X arrived today, so I was fitting the incision motor mount and cam, and I spent ages trying to find a way to fit the stock spur gear cover on (as the incision motor mount is thicker than stock, it made the slipper plates bind), I decided to just run it coverless. At some point I'll run a robinson slipper/spur setup as it is hardened steel.

Whilst I was at it, the tranny got new bearings and fresh grease.

Looking forward to installing the Mamba X tomorrow, got to solder up the connectors tonight.

[Jboucher]

Im running the axial aluminium motor mount and the spur cover still fits fine.

Is the VP mount that much bigger?

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[angrchair]

2 things,

I'm running the VP motor mount and cam, and had no issue getting my spur gear cover on. The back slipper plate did rub a little on the back side of the dust cover behind the spur gear, but just barely.


I also am running Growlers with CI DD foams, medium comp cut up front, not really liking how much the outer foam is rolling over making my tires funny. I ordered a set of Deuces wilds for the front to try, and a set of DD firms, in the event that I hate the DW's I will put the CI DD medium non comp cuts up front to try, with the firms in the rear.
Foams are a pain in the butt.

[ostewart]

Originally Posted by angrchair

2 things,

I'm running the VP motor mount and cam, and had no issue getting my spur gear cover on. The back slipper plate did rub a little on the back side of the dust cover behind the spur gear, but just barely.


I also am running Growlers with CI DD foams, medium comp cut up front, not really liking how much the outer foam is rolling over making my tires funny. I ordered a set of Deuces wilds for the front to try, and a set of DD firms, in the event that I hate the DW's I will put the CI DD medium non comp cuts up front to try, with the firms in the rear.
Foams are a pain in the butt.

Mine was rubbing quite bad, so I scrapped it. A few people run coverless and have no issues with the spur wearing quicker.

Yeah foams are a pain, as I will be putting some speed through this I thought it would be better with Deuces wild tall, and it sure is. The tyres are sticky enough to still crawl well, but they don't conform as well as a normal softer foam. I think overtime they will get better, and there is still some give in them, they are not rock solid.

[angrchair]

Originally Posted by ostewart

Mine was rubbing quite bad, so I scrapped it. A few people run coverless and have no issues with the spur wearing quicker.

Yeah foams are a pain, as I will be putting some speed through this I thought it would be better with Deuces wild tall, and it sure is. The tyres are sticky enough to still crawl well, but they don't conform as well as a normal softer foam. I think overtime they will get better, and there is still some give in them, they are not rock solid.

I got one tire together with the DW normal, it feel pretty decent...but yeah I might end up running the normal DD mediums up front and the DD firms in the rear, and benching the comp cut fronts that are rolling on me so badly.
I made another post about the front foams rolling the tires in real bad and someone said to put glue or hair spray between the inner and outer foam, I can possibly see that working on a non comp cut foam, if you could even some how manage to get it in the tire nicely, but with the comp cut, there is really no surface area between the two foams to make them stick together to keep the rolling over from happening.

[durok]

You could try C.I. tuning rings on one side or both:

Deuce's Wild Single Stage 4.50

[Jboucher]

Originally Posted by durok

You could try C.I. tuning rings on one side or both:

Deuce's Wild Single Stage 4.50

I thought these we're for wider tires?

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[durok]

They'd work well with a dual-stage that is sliding to the side, some trimming in a narrow tire (of the original closed-cell center section) might be required...

As long as you could fit them in they'd work as sort of a wall, holding the open-cell foam in place.

Basically, if your tire has the inside room to allow the foams to shift to the side, there should be space for one or two of these.

[Jboucher]

Maybe Thats why many beadlocks are 25mm, it squeezes the foam so it dosen't move as much as inside a 35mm beadlock?

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[durok]

I'll tell ya one thing, when I moved my kit Axial Bomber tires from Incision Methods to those 25mm eBay specials, it really firmed up my CI Double Deuce CompCut foams...

(Still haven't run them, can't report on that yet)

[Jboucher]

The bomber kit beadlocks are over 40mm if im not mistaken, we might be on to something.

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[angrchair]

my tires and wheels fit the DD foams really snuggly that was certain when I first installed them.

I have both DW's in the front and they feel so firm, I'm not sure how well this thing is going to drive with the mediums in the rear, I might go firm DD rear and keep the DW's in the front.

I am going to try DD medium front firm rear also, since I have the foams to try it, intentionally.

I think I'm going to like these DW's to be honest, I might get a set second set for the rear though.

Once I have them mounted up i'll set my rig on a level surface and take pictures of the tire squat/etc and post in my build thread.

[Jboucher]

I use deuce wild in my yeti Jr and it's fantastic for speed run and sliding in loose dirt or gravel.

I tried limited crawling within the Jr's restricted flex and suspension setup and the DW are not very flexible so you lose a lot of traction.

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[angrchair]

Originally Posted by Jboucher

I use deuce wild in my yeti Jr and it's fantastic for speed run and sliding in loose dirt or gravel.

I tried limited crawling within the Jr's restricted flex and suspension setup and the DW are not very flexible so you lose a lot of traction.

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grumble grumble yeah I figure they are too stiff for decent rock crawling, I mean they say 'light rock work' on the description.
guess I just need more wheels....

[durok]

I haz 2 many wheelz.........................

6 sets of various 1.9" & 2.2" wheel & tire sets to be switched around over 2 Bomber builds - One will likely just use the 2 - 1.9" sets and the other the 4 - 2.2" sets.

I may be off-loading one set of aluminum beadlocks (The Incision Method MR307 2.2"s) and replacing them with C.I. 1.5" wide Six Bolt plastic glue-ons with aluminum SLW hubs.

Those same wheels worked fine on the kit tires, BUT!

I just can't get the freakin' tiny beads on a set of Team DC Nitto Mud Grappler tires to stay clamped, it's like they weren't designed for beadlocks... Oh, well - no biggie!

(I have some HUGE off-brand dual stage foams to stuff in them, doubt they will slide around - even on that wide of a wheel)

I'm giving them a LOOONG soak in my "Bitches Brew" of Purple Power/Simple Green/Greased Lightning/Mean Green & a dash of window cleaner to taste... and will try to clamp them one more time.

[angrchair]

I have my CI DD mediums in the front right now, and the DW's in the rear. Need to get some wheel time.

[ostewart]

Built up one pair of shocks. Not got money at the moment for the other pair, and I'm waiting on the spring pack to arrive.

These have the 1.6 pistons and 20wt oil, along with one big and one small space on the inside to lower them a little, these will go on the front. I'll likely be using the super soft springs.

On the rear I will be running 1.6 pistons, with 30wt oil, one small spacer and hard or super-hard springs.